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PoliticsRe: 'I Can’t Even Have Sex’- Another Accused Nigerian Lawmaker,samuel Okon Writes US by holocron: 7:12pm On Jun 22, 2016
Must we believe a white man over ikon? Let the ambassador tender the evidence in public and clear his name.
PoliticsRe: Harold Wilson Confession On Pre Nigeria Fraud by holocron: 1:01am On Jun 21, 2016
Hmm
PoliticsRe: US Cancels Three Reps’ Visas Over Sex Scandal, Dogara Orders Probe by holocron: 1:49pm On Jun 17, 2016
For me, the reps behaved disgracefully by applying their cultural attitudes to people in the US.

...And the ambassador is taking a hypocritical grand standing by suggesting that such behaviour should taint other legislators, or Nigerians as a whole.

For Christ's sake, was it not just a few years ago that world bank (or was it IMF) president was investigated for similar offence? And did it taint the world bank? Or france?

They should have legally indicted the two reps involved if there was substance in the allegations, and not involve the Nigerian Legislature.

Nonsense, a sitting US president (bill clinton) was indicted for sex in the white house. What happened?
PoliticsRe: Shocking! Check The Date by holocron: 3:10pm On Jun 13, 2016
Well...lets await the trump will die prophesy, before we conclude.

"Once is an accident, twice a coincidence, thrice a conspiracy"! No be me talk am oo!
CrimeRe: 11-year-old Boy Kidnapped And Slaughtered In Kano by holocron: 8:50pm On Jun 08, 2016
The coming of GSM phones has become a mixed blessing in Nigeria. Do we go back to the status quo ante?
CrimeRe: Herbalist Defrauds Money-seeking Lagos Banker Of N2.5m (photo) by holocron: 11:49am On Jun 01, 2016
Ramon92:
don't talk thrash about what you don't understand..
.. The spiritualists don't do it for themselves cos they understand how it works and the sure, dire consequences that follows. Mind you, those that really know it well don't live in poverty, might not be rich but they live comfortably.
You rebuked the poster. But YOU, yourself, do you understand HOW IT WORKS? Or its the same dem say, dem say.

Black niggas, better wise up. How can a banker, who is supposed to be versed in economics and finance subscribe to money magic belief? Whats the hope for the ordinary ones then?

Long ago, in the eighteenth century, when the whites were still enslaving you, Adam smith exposed the mystery (if there was any in the first place) behind "THE WEALTH OF NATIONS".
YOU can start by reading it, and others, to learn that there is no magical shortcut to wealth, technology, and physical development.
Christianity EtcRe: On the Supernatural & Juju (Black Magic) by holocron: 9:08am On May 31, 2016
darkhorizon:
Don't get It wrong,Newtons work are classified under Classical Physics...
Modern Physics you are talking about started in the late 19th century with Max Planck, so get your facts right Sir... Modern Physics include;Relativity, Quantum mechanics, Nuclear physics and the like,and classical physics which Newton is a part of fails in this aspect.
Well..if we must be pedantic, I guess you're right. I stand corrected. Father of classical physics, then; and I hope you get the main points of my earlier post? That, at the dawn of science (classical or modern) at the rennaissance period of Europe, the main researchers (for example, Isaac Newton) were dabbling both in science and also things which we may now call occultism. They eventually concentrated on science as a better method of understanding and manipulating reality.
CelebritiesRe: Magician Richard Jones Has Been Crowned The Winner Of Britain’s Got Talent 2016 by holocron: 1:40pm On May 29, 2016
He will make billions as a pastor/prophet/general overseer in Nigeria
Christianity EtcRe: On the Supernatural & Juju (Black Magic) by holocron: 1:01pm On May 29, 2016
darkhorizon:
What is this one saying,Isaac Newton,father of modern physics kehuh
I bet u just learnt physics from reading atheist comment about it here online.
Well...if not THE father, then at least definitely ONE of the fathers of modern physics.

I dont know who you are, or the authority by which you speak; but...was that all you could take home from the writeup?
Christianity EtcRe: On the Supernatural & Juju (Black Magic) by holocron: 12:33pm On May 27, 2016
analice107:
Another Magician came up saying, those trying to explain away Magic as mere tricks, are doing so with the intent of denying aatan's existence, its all an act. All of them are in the same boat
Jesus christ of Nazareth! Can this be real?! Am rolling on the floor laughing!

Is there hope for the African in the next generation?!
Christianity EtcRe: On the Supernatural & Juju (Black Magic) by holocron: 11:30am On May 27, 2016
GrizzlyBear:
Before I proceed, what Is Juju?

As I continue, I would like to share these few stories.

As I was perusing through NL one day, I came across a thread where a doctor on NL shared the tale of a girl was brought to the hospital where he worked and this girl was said to have been complaining of extreme stomach ache. When a scan was done, the doctors noticed something that they hadn't seen before- There were live insects seen crawling around the walls of her stomach and internal organs. According to the doctor, there was nothing anyone could do about her condition and after few hours, she died. Now, under medical cross examination, there was no explanation for how these insects found their way and were able to survive inside her. This girl was said to have been inflicted by the person she had sex with trough Juju, supposedly for money rituals.
If a supernatural force from where whosoever did this evil to the girl drew his power from didn't exist, then how was this possible?

Growing up, I lived close to a popular university here in Nigeria, and one day I witnessed a cultist attack on a cult member of another cult group. Right in my presence this guy was shot multiple times with a pistol and the bullet didn't penetrate his body, it was not until his pursuers caught up to him and after realizing their guns were useless, they used a machete and cut him with it till he died.
Now, how was this guy able to withstand the effect of bullets?

When I was in secondary school, I had a female friend who traveled to her village for a ceremony, and one morning as she woke up to urinate, she stepped on the door mat in front of her room and she became paralyzed instantly. Not only that, her legs began to swell up. She was taken to different hospitals but nothing could be done to curb her strange illness. It was not until she contacted a spiritualist that the cause of her illness was revealed. Now this isn't a here say story. She told me herself. She even showed me pictures of her legs.
If Juju doesn't exist, how was this possible?

I used these stories because they are ones I saw with my eyes and life experiences from people I can validate them from. Aside from these ones, I have heard other stories of people who were struck supernaturally, with ailments that couldn't be explained medically. Stories of people who were sick almost to the point of death, but all body processes were functioning properly, and in medical terms, they were healthy.

I have heard of people who sacrificed their fellow humans and family members to make money, and they actually made the money. Everyday we hear of stories of people how were kidnapped, some killed, with some of their body parts supposedly stolen for ritualistic purposes. If these rituals didn't actually work, people wouldn't invest into it right? So it means it works and people benefit from it and others are able to see evidence and decided to sell their conscience and delve into it.

Atheists in the house, what's the logical and rational explanation for this? Where do these people draw their powers from? How are all these occurrences possible? Does this mean supernatural powers exist? If it does, then there must be a hierarchy, and a power has to be at the top of the power chain..

I have heard stories of people who claimed they were once evil and they wielded special powers but these powers were overcome by the power of the christian God. If God and the supernatural doesn't exist, how is all this possible?

Your replies would be highly appreciated. Please pardon the length of my post.

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Holocron
It might be difficult to convince you within the small space of this medium. But the bottom line is this:

No one (even atheists) denies the complexity and mystery that permeates the universe. Humanity, has since the dawn of consciousness, tried to make sense of the world by personal experience, observations, and analysis (what you have just been doing).

Different societies have theorized; from fables and legends, to different religions.

I think it would be self-evident that the validity of a theory and explaination of the world is the effect and extent such theory helps its adherents to change the physical world to their benefit.

Now, the scientific materialist worldview has allowed the europeans/american and asians to make such rapid strides in physical development, that for all practical purposes, Africans might as well be living in a different Planet. And indeed, they are. The juju mentality just does not effectively explain reality; that's why you cant use it to acheive any physical development.

Now, all those juju examples you gave can equally be explained away by ordinary causes, which you might or might not accept. But..."all things being equal, the simplest explanation must be the right one"

Everything so far known about the universe, points out that it is a rule based universe. It is not capricious. So if anything like juju manifests, it should be studied, and exploited for human
benefit, because there must be an underlying principle to it.

But sadly, even the whites have studied the occult, and given it up. Those previous occultic practices like alchemy, were the things that the whites converted to the scientific disciplines of chemistry, pharmacy, and metallurgy.

Isaac Newton, the famous scientist known as the father of modern physics, was also known as the last of the magicians.

Let's wise up.
Jokes EtcRe: The Nigerian God. by holocron: 3:29pm On May 26, 2016
Please Tell them! I fear for the day of reckoning, when our society must pay the penalty for trying to navigate the real world with childlike fantasy.
PoliticsRe: Militants Blow Up NNPC Pipelines In Warri, Delta State by holocron: 1:08pm On May 22, 2016
Sunnynwa:
Na your mama toto dem go level. Idiot, you are calling for a whole community to be leveled because of a few disgruntled elements who nobody knows where they even come from.
I mean...they might be "Libyans", for all you know! Ha ha ha...
PoliticsRe: Boko Haram Willing To Discuss Surrender And Release Of Chibok Girls by holocron: 12:30pm On May 22, 2016
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PoliticsRe: Buhari's May 29th Speech Leaked by holocron: 2:35pm On May 21, 2016
If he resigns, then what next? Thats the question.
LiteratureRe: With Money She Understands You Better, Less Talk (check Conversation) by holocron: 8:17am On May 19, 2016
"When money talks, bullshit listens" - rockefeller

Also the ancients said "you dont go empty handed, when seeking to marry (or befriend) a woman"

Be guided accordingly.
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PoliticsRe: NASS Will Not Support The Creation Of Grazing Reserves–ekweremadu by holocron: 8:00am On May 02, 2016
Firefire:
Very good.

“There is no such proposal or bill on the creation of grazing reserves either in the Senate or House of Representatives.
Nobody is considering it; not even at the executive level. I do not think they are considering it but we will not support it even if it has been considered,”

Chief Obafemi Awolowo said: ‘Tap and pipe water from the Atlantic Ocean to irrigate the whole of Northern Nigeria like other deserts of the world and you will feed the entire world from here’.

There should be no driving of herds all over the nation as the excuse to mass murder Nigerians in the South.
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“Sambisia forest which is approximately 60,000 Km2 and has more than 6million hectares of land can be used as a national ranch where all breeders from different parts of the country can breed their cattle. This will help to develop the area and derive Boko Haram their haven.

Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/04/can-opposes-grazing-reserve-bill/
Sambisa forest is not 60,000 km2, Haba! Its just about 1/20th the size of borno state which is about 70,000 km2.
PoliticsRe: Dogara Invites Buhari’s Minister To Test Their Knowledge On... by holocron: 7:33am On May 02, 2016
Good one
PoliticsRe: Collapse 36 States To 6 Zones, Ekweremadu Tells FG by holocron: 11:33am On Apr 26, 2016
Proudlyngwa:
Unfortunately the creation of geopolitical zones killed any hope of regional government
How? I would have thought it is a step towards regional government!

It is not easy to abolish tribalism. To achieve it, the first step is to acknowledge it - not denial. Henceforth we urge further cooperation for mutual interests. And then to increased integration.

The worldwide trend is towards greater regional integrations, but Africa started the statehood project on false premises of colonial shell states. What must be done is to step back. Recognise your component ethnic groupings and then forge strong integrated states whose peoples are bound by shared cultural values and interests.

I know it might sound like a step backwards. But, just like a man on the edge of a precipice, we need to step back a little, in order to make a better leap forward to the other side.
PoliticsRe: Collapse 36 States To 6 Zones, Ekweremadu Tells FG by holocron: 8:53am On Apr 26, 2016
Proudlyngwa:
Are we talking about regionalism along geographical zones or geopolitical zones, because we are already practicing it along the geopolitical axis.
What Nigeria needs this period is seperating local governments from state government, making them completely autonomous and financially independent not creating more mega monsters. Same applies for councils and wards. We need a financial transparency commission of all tiers of government.
What you suggest makes great sense, albeit, its very difficult to achieve with the present dispensation, given our lawless culture of corruption.

If regions of central Government are made smaller with resource control, it is believed that greater government accountability will result, because masses now have more access and control of Government than before. Then what you recommended will be achieved.

The powers that control Nigeria hesitate to implement this because it will end the massive looting and mismanagement of the country's resources which they practice for the benefit of their class.
Christianity EtcRe: Is The Universe Purely "Material" & "Physical"? by holocron: 7:59pm On Apr 14, 2016
The problem you experience comes about due to the way you think about matter. Thinking that matter must be clunky and dross, and very different from spiritual stuff which must be refined and ephemeral, leads us to the dualistic conception of the universe.

The fact is that the nature of the universe is one. Call it material, or spiritual (if you like). The universe manifests itself in a continuum ranging from presently undetectable dark energy, to visible energy, and the grosser material forms.

There is no duality. Normally, matter manifests in an unorganised way. Life, and its product mind, is just one of the special manifestations of matter when it is highly organised. Asking whether consciousness begat the universe or vice versa is just like the old chicken and egg problem. Its afallacy in analysis that misunderstands the nature of the universe and the observed rules of its development. Please refer to the laws of dialectics, and Newtons laws of motion. Particularly, that any developing system contains diametrically opposed forces active within it, responsible its development, or movement (if you will)

And what is the real ultimate nature of matter or the universe? We can never be able to answer this question, and there's little point in guessing. It should be sufficient to understand our area of the universe for the improvement of our physical existence.
Science/TechnologyRe: See Shocking Photos Of Two-headed Snake by holocron: 12:02pm On Apr 12, 2016
There are two headed humans. Why not snakes?
PoliticsRe: Confirmed!! Buhari A Western Agent Of Neo-colonialism by holocron: 12:20pm On Apr 10, 2016
senior123:
So you would rather live as a slave than fight for your freedom? Wow!! Truly either the "Brave ones are gone" or "The beautiful ones are not yet born". It is people like you that we unfortunately give our votes to in this country that end up selling our nationhood and shredding our culture. Until Africa can succeffully eradicate itself of people who think like you [Slaves] our race to growth would be slow. China was colonized as well, but they had good leaders who had pride in their manhood and country. Such a pity that u exist really. Such a pity. I can only hope you are old at least.
We must serve the white man until a time comes when we have learnt and mastered modern technology and science, and can build and manufacture machines and industries by ourselves.



Until then, false pride will not save the African. The sooner we start learning, the better. THAT IS THE REAL FIGHT!

NB: Pls Check your history, China was never colonized! And please, dont compare Africans to any other part of the world. We are in a league of our own.
PoliticsRe: Confirmed!! Buhari A Western Agent Of Neo-colonialism by holocron: 10:50am On Apr 10, 2016
senior123:
White man does not care about you. They would exterminate all Africans if they could and get it over with. But they cant.
Very very true. And they actually can, and nothing will happen. So to avert that, the best policy is try and make yourself useful to their rule, while learning from them as fast as possible and plotting to be free of them.

You may not understand, but know that all the founding fathers you mentioned never sought independence from the white man, as you think. They only asked for greater participation in colonial government.

Right now, as we speak (or write), Africans dont even have the ability to mine the oil or whatever solid minerals they have. We depend on foreign technology, expatriates, etc to harvest the oil.

I dont have time and space to explain much, but think about it.
PoliticsRe: Confirmed!! Buhari A Western Agent Of Neo-colonialism by holocron: 8:27pm On Apr 09, 2016
All those industries belong to the whites. The whites built and are running those industries and also in control of the international trade. Let them manage it fully, and it will be better for us. Independence has proven to be a bad idea.

Anyway, the founding fathers never even asked for it; they only asked for participation in the colonial government, and pronto! They were given independence with neocolonialism. Say no to neocolonialism! Welcome, colonialism!

Sell back the economy to them. Colonialism is exploitation with responsibility. Neocolonialism is irresponsible exploitation. Colonialism is to farming, what Neocolonialism is to hunting and food gathering!
EducationRe: Only A Genius Will Solve This Simple Mathematics. by holocron: 9:33am On Mar 30, 2016
Primary school arithmetic. 4.
Christianity EtcRe: “how Everything Has Gone Spiritual In Nigeria” by holocron: 10:50am On Mar 29, 2016
You are correct. But am afraid, this trend would run its full course, until the masses awake. Enlightenment is dawning slowly.
PoliticsRe: Do U Know? This A Little Compilation Of What You Dont Know About Nigeria by holocron: 12:17am On Mar 29, 2016
No.5 na lie. The broken english word Sabby, is actually a corruption of the english word savvy, and means exactly the same thing. It was common usage in victorian english in the same way it is now used in west african broken english ( you savvy?). it was culturally transmitted at that time, together with the niger delta bowler hat etc.
EducationRe: Safety Tips On How To Identify Fake Policemen At A Glance by holocron: 12:01am On Mar 29, 2016
Good
EducationRe: Ten Most Cruel Leaders In History by holocron: 11:46pm On Mar 28, 2016
Incarnations of evil. However, (point of correction), adolf eichman cant be counted as a leader. He was just serving hitler's policies.
FamilyRe: Ese Is Pregnant For Yinusa Says His Father by holocron: 9:45am On Mar 03, 2016
I cant make sense out of this article! Somebody, please help.

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