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[quote author=Unluvable*]those two beings didnt realize they were naked until they ate the damn fruit! Now tell how do two ppl get to have s.ex when they don't even know their naked And we don't know the number of years they were running around that garden eating wack fruits before eve seeked knowledge. Why didnt they procreate
Going by genesis if eve didnt eat that 'knowledge' fruit, they never would have f.u.cked!!![/quote]Even as we speak animals know not if they are clad or not yet they mate in order to procreate.

Let us consider that animals and trees grow, age and die even though they committed no sin. Sin may not be directly responsible for physical death. However, in the garden of Eden was the tree of life, which God may have given to Man periodically to extend his life.

shdemidemi: The Bible never said they knew each other before the fall na,so it would have been just Adam and Eve forever

Is that so? What happens to the command to be fruitful and multiply given before the fall?

Assuming the answer is yes -they would have lived forever if not for the fall- and then an offspring down the line, a great grand son, ate the forbidden fruit, will his progenitors' eternal lives be cut short on account of the sin?

Ozegbe: he is reverend, worshipped, perceived as a loving, kind God.
This is my major problem with xtainity.
after all the evil deeds their god committed in the bible, even killing the whole world saving few, they dnt see a problem with it. Why?becos he repented and gave us a new testament.
If xtains are ok wit the killings in the bible by a god who says he remain thesame yesterday, today and forever and he changeth not, then al xtains shud be ok wit the killings of
mao - killed apt 70m ppl
joseph stalin - apt 28m ppl during the great purge
adolf hitler - the nazist that killed apt 8 to 12m ppl
the rwanda genocide that claim apt the life of 1m ppl.
And many more..etc. If they all did repent before their demise, acording to the bible, we can safely say that they are currently dancing azonto in heaven.
Even if the xtain god is real and he is the one to be worship, i stil wil not worship him except he appears to me and give me concrete reasons why he committed so much evil in the past.

i still dnt understand the story of job.
I rest my case for now

Well, if the God you are talking about is the Creator, and if He gave life to everyone without their asking then He could take life as He deems fit. Don’t forget that He is able to bring those He kills back to life if it suits His purpose.
I make objects out of clay. The ones I am pleased with, I dry and bake to make permanent. The ones I don’t like I crush, reconstitute and produce better things out of. Sovereignty means something, doesn’t it?
Now if you knew that all the people wiped away in the ‘genocide’ by God have been purified and admitted into a superior life beyond this realm, I am sure you will then see God as their benefactor and not otherwise. The above is possible for the One to whom nothing is impossible.

nice4life: the sacrifice was a spiritual one and can be difficult for the natural mind to understand so I do not blame the @op.Know that Jesus Christ was sinnless and a blood is neccessary to take away sins based on the spiritual laws establish by God.No other blood can wash away sins( a spiritual disease) than the preciuos and stainless blood of Jesus Crist.He had to die to make that blood available for all sinners , he did no die for himself or to himself , he died to shed his blood for the remission of sins.

I am just thinking aloud. God established a spiritual law which once violated required a blood sacrifice to make right. God is the founder of the spiritual law.God is grieved by the law's violation by man. God (Son)is the sacrifice. God is then appeased by sacrificing God (Son) to himself for the violation of the spiritual law He established.Still thinking.

olajyde027: @FROSBEL.. The giving of your tithes is a sign that Ɣ☺ΰ‎​‎​'ve accepted God to b number 1 in ur life...Ɣ☺ΰ‎​‎​ should b less concerned with wht the church does with ur tithe..paying of tithe is not a show of wht how rich Ɣ☺ΰ‎​‎​ r and for show offs..buh its a convenant with God for constant provision..however ur tithes and offerings is wht the church uses to pay for bills,fuel the generators etc..Ɣ☺ΰ‎​‎​ should look for a bible beliving church and Ɣ☺ΰ‎​‎​'l see they are not after your..with or withuot Ɣ☺ΰ‎​‎​..God's work will not suffer..rather than going to these churches that are setup solely to extort ignorant ones..Jesus reigns and Jesus loves you

There goes the same old line. God is never made no 1 in anyone's life by the paying of tithe. God is made no 1 by our submission to His will and obedience to his commandment. The tithe paying commandment has been abrogated in favour of freewill and cheerful giving. What we have today is a refurbished tithe law by men to keep gullible folks fixated on material things. The owner of the church, Jesus, never asked tithe of anyone nor did his early disciples. Jesus never intended that His church be institutionalized in the manner that will attract overheads and thence tithes to fund it.

No Nigerian president can deliver dividends of democracy under the current dispensation. There are corrupt people everywhere who will readily sabotage government effort. If were president, I will use my commander in chief power to stage a coup backed by some very patroitic soldiers. Then dissolve the national assembly, suspend the constitution and rule by decree. I will dismantle all state government structure and revert to regions along the geopolitical zone lines.Regions will be autonomous, they shall have control of their resources and fund their police department. All persons who have ever been in a political office will be banned for life from politics. Having done these, I will ensure that teachers from primary to university level are among the highest paid while political office holders are the least. My government will embark on massive infrastructural development this will jump start the economy and get our teeming youths off the street, partner with oil companies that will build refineries here, we will export only petroleum products and not crude oil.Once all these are done, off I go into exile.

An aircraft is meant to fly.If it is not,then it is not an aircraft. Why do we celebrate mediocrity so much in this country? About a century ago, the Wright brothers built a contraption from the scratch, it flew! Now we have schematics of different aircraft structure and engines littered in books and all over the internet. To copy intelligently now is a problem. Rather we are excited that some fella made a sculpture of an aircraft. Not long ago a rich boy from the north built a helicopter using a car engine. The craft couldn't even lift up an inch. There is thinking behind every good product. It doesn't seem Nigerians are ready to pick up such challenges yet.

Good attempt I hope it is developed further. Artists could be brought in the help in the shape, a bit of streamlining will help make the car trendy. But seriously what are the professors of mechanical engineering doing?

The teaching of the church about hell being an everlasting torture place for evil doers is worrisome. The teaching implies that the inhabitants of this hell will be body and soul and fully concious. They will experience extreme pain but unable to pass out. This will go on forever.This kind of teaching may do well to frighten people to righteousness but I am afraid it is not portraying God as being rich in mercy. I wonder how happy one could be heaven thinking of a relative going through that hell. I go for total annihilation for the wicked-no life, no conciousness, no pain, nothing

tajikwan411: muslims jubilation over yakowa's death or not should not be an issue at all 'cos every living soul will surely taste DEATH! But i have this to ask? Ain't some christians from Yakowa's tribe jubilating too? These were the christians that accused the late governor of favoring the hausa muslims. Also, where did yakowa die? Within a christian region with a speculated christian plot in the crash.
Why is it that when a muslims are accused, it spreads out loud? take for instant the christian boy that killed 20 students and 6 female teachers in Connecticut u.s.a. recently was not referred to as TERRORIST!!s or CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALIST!! But should he have been a muslim, we know how the news will sound like. Pass your comments, it's a free world, but do it with wisdom and consideration.

Your comment presupposes that muslims are being treated unfairly by all these accusations of being terrorists while clearly christians commit worse crimes and don't get black listed.Well, muslims can hardly be divorced from their religion. What do you say of the chap that goes abombing in the name of the faith and gives praises to Allah for the success. The connecticut dude did not give Jesus any credit for his action neither did any christian sect roll out drums in high praises to God for the killing.Can this be said about muslims?if someone named Mohammed robs a bank, he is simply a robber but if a religious group claims responsibity and proclaims mohammed a hero then what do you expect?

I admit there is indeed a spiritual dimension to our existence but Nigerians are overly subscribing to it at the expense of being pragmatic. For instance, the HIV pandemic until recently was attributed to spiritual enemy attack. There is a particular portion of Jos - Forest highway that is accident prone due to its steep gradient and winding path. Many overlook these facts in preference for resident blood sucking demons' activities. My partner, a superstitious and religious type will keep dirty dishes in the sink for days while binding demons for causing a wave of cockroach infestation. Ignorance is seriously at work in the minds of the superstitious.

Folks, what is your take on a constitutional review that sees to the scrapping of all state government save federal and local governments? Let us discuss the merits and demerits of such a change. In my opinion, the state governments are impeding the developments of their various local governments.

[quote author=thelastPope]I am amazed at the level of ignorance Nigerians display sometimes. Please tell me, do you think a band of militants in a village will kill 9 soldiers and then wait in the same village for the military to come and attack them there? I need an answer please. Thank you.[/quote the militants did not operate from outer space. They resided in Odi and were probably hailed as heroes by the locals while the carried out the butchering of the security men. The same scenario played out when the boko haram guys were sheltered by their sympathetic community after acts of terror. Should such community not be culpable?

Hey man, make sure you love her real good. That love will help absorb frustations in the event of marriage. Trust me, marriage hardly change people. There are no such things as bad cooks but there are lazy people. The laziness will be more glaring in the marriage. Its attendance are : Unmade bed, 3 days unwashed dishes, 7 days unswept apartment, unhealthy interest in home movies and uninspiring meals. If your love can endure all these, fine. If not, get another girl, after all it is easy to fall in love with any girl that offers great meals and services.

Abokii8: It is now left for boko haram to carry out a real jihad! We can not tolerate any disgrace to our holy prophet.

the jihad, I suppose, is to purge the world of non muslims so that islam alone can thrive. Good. Perhaps you can start by asking whom you worship why he created the others, that is if he indeed created them. No God will select a handful of His creatures and ask them to plunder and kill the others for being what He created them to be.

mathskill: The right question to ask is Why couldn't Jesus save himself from being nailed on the cross and killed.

because dying means resurrection, which means ascension to Heaven, which means the descent of The Holy Spirit. Saving Himself and leading military campaigns against oppressors as your folks do cannot heal the world of evil. Evil + Evil= Greater Evil.

talk2me006: which one should we hold. u sayin jesus is son while someone here say he is God.
no doubt, u are preaching to hell fire.

Father and Son are of the same substance. Know this today or know it when this life is over, your choice.

BinghiNya: so jesus is God i now understand xtianity is a religion for brainless humans

Jesus is the Son of The Almighty God who was sent to show and lead us to the Father. Believe this now and be admitted into His Kingdom. You will be healed of all the hate and murderous rage. Shalom.

mathskill: I have a simple question nairalanders.What would be your reaction if someone abused your father?

you abuse the person back, that is if your father is unaware of the abuse. What you don't do is go killing innocent people. That is senseless.

[quote author=faluasafe]The way some people on this forum attack Islam,one ll think the forum was specially created for same purpose.
History is awashed with persecutions Muslims have faced/still facing in the hands of the so-called defenders of human rights (the West)-senseless attack on Iraq for possesing weapons of mass destruction,the current stance on Iran even though S Korea is 'guilty' of same offence,the unjustified ravaging of Afghanistan, to mention but a few.
But I can boldly tell u something-Islam is a religion only the Almighty alone preserves.
Check the facts- leading polls still prove the fact that Islam is the fastest growing religion even in the West.
The question therefore is-can you (the blackmailers) stop that momemtum?
I shall continue from there...[/quote

Wrong. The fastest growing religion is atheism- believe in 'Nothing'. With all the senseless provocation and mindless killings by adherents on behalf of their diety, it is feared that the gods aren't powerful afterall.

jamp: you are right. What role did mary play at the wedding in cana. was it not her request that made Jesus perform his first miracle? what is wrong by asking someone to pray for u. dont u ask ur friends to pray for u? Kneeling Before somebody means worship baa?that means we all are guilty cos we bow to judges and call them my lord. yorubas lie flat on the floor to greet and so on. i am a catholic BUT I DONT WORSHIP MARY AND WILL NOT.

i hate arguments cos it will lead us no where. u will not believe me and i will not believe u if u are a protestant continue with ur faith as long as it will lead u to heaven.

Jesus is the Word made flesh. He is God the Son. If this is true then Mary is the mother of God. The womb that carried God cannot be stained, therefore Mary is special. She must have been concieved sinless herself. And so the few scriptures that refered to her must be magnified to suit the new office created for her by religious men. The office is that of the queen mother. What better way to curry the kings favour than through his mum. He will never refuse her anything. And so the catholic story goes...

Great efforts! I hope the ministry of science and technology will be interested this time. People with this kind of aptitude are seldom encouraged in this country. Its a shame that our technology institutions roll out graduates every year and yet simple razor blades are manufactured abroad. We like to don suit, affix Engr to our names and then run for elective offices. Very sad.

The story is incredible. 50 pastor thieves in MFM, and they weren't burnt in the stealing process? How then can other enemies of the church die by fire? I don't believe this.

Most church goers are not christians. A christian will long to be with his Master in Heaven save the tasks he must accomplish inorder to be rewarded. Rather we see people who pretend to be christians praying, frantically, for Heavenly conditions to apply here on earth.