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Today, Lagos with usual burning sun, decided to be cloudy.
Really annoying.

This is why atheist exist

raphieMontella:
is dna not a polymer?
it is exactly the same in nature as any other
dynamic chemical process...

DNA isn't just a polymer, It's a polymer that has nitrogenous base codes arranged on it with a purpose. A polymer is a large molecule, or macromolecule, composed of many repeated subunits. Because of their broad range of properties, both synthetic and natural polymers play an essential and ubiquitous role in everyday life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymer . Break DNA down there is the regular sugar phosphate backbone repeating part and the base pairs that aren't repeating. the base pairs are intentionally arranged to give output. Moreover DNA doesnt fit the Universal Polymer Model. Check (http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/ma401507f)

[img]http://www.teacher.org.hk/itcamp2009/photos/dna_structure.jpg[/img]

https://www.chemguide.co.uk/organicprops/aminoacids/dnachain2.gif

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raphieMontella:
Stand on one point not rigmaroling..
AM radio, where sound is
modulated into the amplitude of a radio signal. No
symbols here, but somehow information is being
encoded, communicated, and decoded.
it seems u do not pick analogies well..

It follows the exact information theory. Radio isnt natural. Computing isnt natural either. Analogies have to be exact in form and function. Natural code examples not analogies. Example of invalid analogies, permit me to quote you again" Dna is not arbitrary...so it is not a code..the code is just a metaphor...
What u are saying is something like this..
2Cu+O2= 2cuO[copper2oxide]
4cu+O2=2cu2O[copper1oxide]
then this becomes a code..." It's never something like that, I mean like seriously? These cyrstals dont carry code. The entire science world knows that DNA carries a code and it's not a methaphor code. Understand and quote me anywhere DNA isn't the code. It carries a code. Deoxyribonucleic acid or DNA is a molecule that contains the instructions an organism needs to develop, live and reproduce. These instructions are found inside every cell, and are passed down from parents to their children. http://www.livescience.com/37247-dna.html. Deoxyribonucleic acid (Listeni/diˈɒksiˌraɪboʊnjʊˌkliːɪk, -ˌkleɪɪk/;[1] DNA) is a molecule that carries the genetic instructions used in the growth, development, functioning and reproduction of all known living organisms and many viruses. DNA and RNA are nucleic acids; alongside proteins, lipids and complex carbohydrates (polysaccharides), they are one of the four major types of macromolecules that are essential for all known forms of life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA.

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raphieMontella:
The atoms combined in various ways the same way dna bases commbine variably to form alleles
like i said before...it is akin to a catalyst

Again, Like Seriously? They carry code/Information information is never random. It is deliberate. Say something else.

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raphieMontella:
With DNA, the chemical structures can be
represented with certain symbols (C, G, T, A).
With Gravity, the physical structures can be
represented with certain symbols (m, a, c, f, p, time
co-ordinates, position co-ordinates...)
With DNA, the information is encoded/decoded by
other chemical reactions (cell duplication, biological
variablility).
With Gravity, the information is encoded/decoded
by other physical reactions (orbits, collisions,
physical variability).
With DNA the message transmitted is "how to
grow."
With Gravity, the message transmitted is "how to
react.
" DNA and Gravity are both equally independant of
their communication/interacting meduims... whatever that's
supposed to mean(lol)
DNA is all chemical reactions, Gravity is all space-
time.
assimilate and stop yelling sire..

Its not even like this. You, my friend are very funny, what are (m, a, c, f, p, time co-ordinates, position co-ordinates...)? Aren't they standard and derived units? Your analogy doesnt have noise factor included so its invalid. Gravity is not encoded/decoded. In General Relativity, matter curves spacetime around it, and other matter obeys the geodesic principle in that spacetime, yielding orbits that mimic Newtonian gravity. But there's no explanation for why matter curves spacetime - that's just the way it is. In a quantum gravity theory it's because matter is exchanging spin-2 bosons called gravitons. Why? No one knows not even science.

What are (C, G, T, A)? that's right, four nucleotide bases of a DNA. The closest analogy to DNA Code is the ASCII Code. I'm a physicist and scientist by heart you cannot tell me crap and I eat it. Your gravity analogy here is invalid.

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raphieMontella:
u asked for natural occuring code...youre yet to disprove it..stop beating around the bush..
why are u shifting the goal post and engaging in strawman arguments?
dude...no need to boast..u asked me simple stuffs..i gave u the answer and you started beating around the bush..
Bring whatever you have..and i'll dismantle it..
Horlufemi..i get enough time for you..

You havent given me an answer. I have dismantled your analogies, your analogies are invalid.

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I'm still asking you for a natural occurring code that follows the information theory. (DNA fits information theory). Not all these your invalid analogies. I will not strawman you if you think I do. I won't insult you again but insult science again, then and there I will call you out.

https://cosmicfingerprints.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/shannon_general_communication_system.jpg

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Don't say anything on this yet until you get me any natural existing code . I am going somewhere with this.

The universe contains Matter, Energy and Information

Cheers,

Mr. Atheist. a.k.a (There is no God)

abokibuhari:
Buhari is trying to us the west to sow a seed of discord among the southern nigeria

Buhari must be giving you nightmares

FFK is a disgrace

let there be peace. we would achieve more if we some together and be humans

Kenya is the Florida of Africa

OP you are a disgrace to SW.

Black people no get sense

raphieMontella:
Information is not meaning and does not, per
se, imply any special structure or function. Any
arrangement implies information; the
information is how the arrangement is
described. If a new arrangement occurs,
whether spontaneously or from the outside, new information is assembled in the process.
Even if the arrangement consists of shattering
a glass into tiny pieces, that means assembling
new information....
Dna is not arbitrary...so it is not a code..the code is just a metaphor...
What u are saying is something like this..
2Cu+O2= 2cuO[copper2oxide]
4cu+O2=2cu2O[copper1oxide]
then this becomes a code...



An exampe of a
naturally occurring code is atomic spectral lines in the electromagnetic spectrum.

So, all the elements of the periodic table have their
own barcode in the electromagnetic spectrum. This
constitutes an empirical counterexample to your
claim that all codes are known to originate from
"design". The electromagnetic spectrum originates
in the relationship between electromagnetically charged particles in the structures of atoms.

Your IQ is really low if you don't understand what I'm saying.

Those are just chemical reactions. And has no communication channel.

It doesn't adhere to the communication channel model nor the mathematical theory of communication.

You obviously don't understand what I'm saying.

raphieMontella:
What u are saying is something like this..
2Cu+O2= 2cuO[copper2oxide]
4cu+O2=2cu2O[copper1oxide]
then this becomes a code...[/b]

This made me laugh so hard and makes you look like those theists that dont know their onions. These reactions carry no instructions.

Before you quote me Please read up on DNA ( Deoxyribonucleic acid is a molecule that carries the genetic instructions used in the growth, development, functioning and reproduction of all known living organisms and many viruses.) mechanisms and how it produces proteins. I prefer you watch the video. Then come back.

Translation: RNA to protein, 3D animation with basic narration :: DNA Learning Center
https://www.dnalc.org/view/15501-Translation-RNA-to-protein-3D-animation-with-basic-narration.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG7uCskUOrA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K8Y0ATkkAI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1AoVF3k9Hg

Your crystals doing replicate, don't code for anything, no codons, no genes, they just form. Same as the electromagnetic spectrum. Nothing beats the mechanism in the cell powered by the information in the DNA. You must be a joker if you are trying to compare these things to the workings of the cell or just doing wuru wuru to the answer. To understand what I mean check the videos.

DNA is not a play play stuff.

Feels good making atheists look like mumu.

money making show

raphieMontella:
horlufemi..

U mistake what information is tho..
Dna is not a code like languages...
It is not arbitrary..
Natural info is much..
Crystals..etc

was banned for long tho..

information: the attribute inherent in and communicated by one of two or more alternative sequences or arrangements of something (as nucleotides in DNA or binary digits in a computer program) that produce specific effects 

Nucelotides (Input) | Amino Acid (Encoded Message)
Input CCC you get Proline
Input ACC you get Threonine
Input GGG you get Glycine
Input AAA you get Lysine


crystals contain none. No input, no encoded message.

give me another.

What information do crystals possess?

Omo Daada.

I don fall from chair o

Africans and food

haha haha
black mans brain is for food only

AreaFada2:
In case you don't get it, people first of all belong to their tribe and all things being equal, maybe 9ja a distant second.

It is a fact people like to ignore in this country. The harder the economy & life gets, the less people will feel attached to 9ja.

Even OBJ said 9ja has never been this divided since Biafra war.

The fearful thing to me is the fragmentation of the youths.
Even if the country was to break up in 6 nations, I cannot see the current elite suddenly disappearing into oblivion. Rather, they will become the new ruling elite of the new nations. And the youths will find new things to be divided about too.

Finally, someone with sense.

Divide the youths, and rule them. Make them weak make them hate each other along ethnic and religious lines

Decryptor:
See the "SMART" way the title of the story was modified and the real story was hidden?

The woman is a victim of the fulani massacre but due to the "respect" for fulanis it has become "Photo Of A Woman Cut Into Parts"

Anything to make Nigeria bad.

This happened in Kenya not long ago. see for yourself

http://newsofafrica.org/189489.html

daretodiffer:
I don't believe the Fulani herdsmen attack story. This is probably money ritual or cannibalism at play

Thank you

SORRY O,

THIS WOMAN NO GORGEOUS

Please I'm not beefing her. She's not just gorgeous.

When there is Kowa
I can only vote for PDP and it's incarnate at gunpoint

I like the components and their meaning.
the design is wack. no apologies.

Buhari is a tyrant. He never carry you go prison for insulting him ever since he wanted to contest.

Common sense so uncommon.

Lol

Dem tif today and 2mao join

ojnnaco:
As much as I agree with the writer,I will like to say when majority of these are denied to them just know that The issue of insurgency will continue to thrive and any forceful means to subdue them will be tantamount to genocide.
They demands are as simple as ABC, develop the land where the WHOLE country depends for their survivals .

Simple

Physics Electronics
Quantum Mechanics
400L

It was like Greek

How I passed, only God knows.

magicminister:
Nigeria have lost most of her best citizens to other countries.
From atletes, to artisans, to medical practitioners and scientists.
We have been blessed with the best brains but cursed with terrible leaders.

Just imagine where we would be if we supported our youths?

Just imagine where we would be if most of us didn't dream of travelling to london or us in search of better lives cos we have all we need here?

Congratulation to this girl.
Lets celebrate another excellent gene we lost to other countries.
Lets celebrate our failures.


@seun
You seem not to know how powerful your website is.
Your moderators should maintain professionalism at all times.
Which one is "yoruba pastor"s daughter"?

Thank you. some people bigotry is legendary

Nigeria had no economy.

Our economy was corruption.

OP, Na Holy Spirit reveal this one to you.

A Tale of two babies. – A Parable of Life After Delivery.

"In a mother’s womb were two babies.One asked the other: “Do you believe in life after delivery?”The other replied, “Why, of course. There has to be something after delivery. Maybe we are here to prepare ourselves for what we will be later.”

“Nonsense” said the first. “There is no life after delivery. What kind of life would that be?”

The second said, “I don’t know, but there will be more light than here. Maybe we will walk with our legs and eat from our mouths. Maybe we will have other senses that we can’t understand now.”

The first replied, “That is absurd. Walking is impossible. And eating with our mouths? Ridiculous! The umbilical cord supplies nutrition and everything we need. But the umbilical cord is so short. Life after delivery is to be logically excluded.”

The second insisted, “Well I think there is something and maybe it’s different than it is here. Maybe we won’t need this physical cord anymore.”

The first replied, “Nonsense. And moreover if there is life, then why has no one has ever come back from there? Delivery is the end of life, and in the after-delivery there is nothing but darkness and silence and oblivion. It takes us nowhere.”

“Well, I don’t know,” said the second, “but certainly we will meet Mother and she will take care of us.”

The first replied “Mother? You actually believe in Mother? That’s laughable. If Mother exists then where is She now?”

The second said, “She is all around us. We are surrounded by her. We are of Her. It is in Her that we live. Without Her this world would not and could not exist.”

Said the first: “Well I don’t see Her, so it is only logical that She doesn’t exist.”

To which the second replied, “Sometimes, when you’re in silence and you focus and you really listen, you can perceive Her presence, and you can hear Her loving voice, calling down from above.”