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Politics › Re: The Legacy Of Martin Luther King Jr by Horus(m): 6:17am On Dec 26, 2007
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Martin Luther King Jr

The man is an American thing. I can't link him with us here in Naija.
Why?.Why you can't link him with us?
Culture › Re: Kwanzaa by Horus(m):
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Kwanzaa is an African American and Pan-African holiday which celebrates family, community and culture. Celebrated from 26 December thru 1 January, its origins are in the first harvest celebrations of Africa from which it takes its name. The name Kwanzaa is derived from the phrase "matunda ya kwanza" which means "first fruits" in Swahili, a Pan-African language which is the most widely spoken African language.
The first-fruits celebrations are recorded in African history as far back as ancient Egypt and Nubia and appear in ancient and modern times in other classical African civilizations such as Ashantiland and Yorubaland. These celebrations are also found in ancient and modern times among societies as large as empires (the Zulu or kingdoms (Swaziland) or smaller societies and groups like the Matabele, Thonga and Lovedu, all of southeastern Africa. Kwanzaa builds on the five fundamental activities of Continental African "first fruit" celebrations: ingathering; reverence; commemoration; recommitment; and celebration. Kwanzaa, then, is:
a time of ingathering of the people to reaffirm the bonds between them;
a time of special reverence for the creator and creation in thanks and respect for the blessings, bountifulness and beauty of creation;
a time for commemoration of the past in pursuit of its lessons and in honor of its models of human excellence, our ancestors;
a time of recommitment to our highest cultural ideals in our ongoing effort to always bring forth the best of African cultural thought and practice; and
a time for celebration of the Good, the good of life and of existence itself, the good of family, community and culture, the good of the awesome and the ordinary, in a word the good of the divine, natural and social.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus' Pictures Real by Horus(m): 8:04pm On Dec 17, 2007
Yashua was Black
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus' Pictures Real by Horus(m): 3:57pm On Dec 16, 2007
Politics › Re: Would You Like A Us Military Base Hq In Nigeria by Horus(m): 10:26am On Dec 06, 2007
Why US Wants to Establish Military Base in the Nigeria

24 November 2007

Some years ago when he was the Chief of Army Staff, General Victor Malu opposed the presence of American military in Nigeria. This earned him the fury of the then Commander-in-Chief, and Malu was consequently retired.
Two weeks ago, the Americans renewed their moves to set up their African Command (AFRICOM) in Nigeria, but the Council of State rejected this. In this interview, Malu explained how the US first made its efforts, why he opposed it and what setting up an American military base here would mean.

WT: The Council of State recently rejected the setting up of a US military African Command (AFRICOM) in Nigeria. When you were army chief some years ago, you rejected similar moves. What informed your action then?

Malu: What the Americans wanted to do was not to set up a command. The Americans because of five years of Abacha's administration that blocked Americans from developing or updating their intelligence on armed forces of Nigeria took the opportunity of somebody who had no knowledge about military in the name of Obasanjo to come and associate with him and convinced him that they wanted to train us for peace-keeping. Americans cannot claim that they want to train us for peace-keeping. We've succeeded in peace-keeping where Americans have not succeeded. What they wanted was to update their intelligence on the armed forces of a wretched country like Nigeria with all the sanctions on it. So they came and told Obasanjo that they wanted to train us for peace-keeping. In Liberia, of the 16 member states of the ECOWAS, 10 of them took part in the peace-keeping. Some sent a token of 11 men, some 16 men, but it was still a contingent from those countries. Why America would choose to come and train Nigeria that provided the cream of the peace-keepers? It didn't take anybody with analytical mind before they know what the Americans wanted. Any other person would have told them thank you, but we don't give our intelligence or armed forces on a silver plate. But that was what Obasanjo jumped on. And unfortunately, for him I was the COAS. Making me COAS does not mean I was a slave. I am a general who knew my job, who wanted the job to be done in a respectable way. So I went and met General Danjuma to explain to him that these people are not coming to train us for peace-keeping. In fact, they are not capable of training us on peace-keeping. Peace-keeping is not a nuclear, it is not a biological, it is not a chemical warfare. That is what an infantry man does, that is what we do in Liberia better than anybody else. Ambassador Howard Jetter, who later became American ambassador to Nigeria, represented the American government on the Liberia crisis. He wrote a report to the American government on the completion of our mission after we have supervised one of the most successful elections in Africa, and told them that from his personal observation, if America in future wants to assist any of the regions that has its military component such as ECOWAS they should not talk about sending anybody, that the troops he met are competent, they are determined, they have the skills to do the type of job he doesn't think any Americans would come and do in a third world country. I had two copies of that report. I made a mistake, I gave them to General Danjuma, I knew I can never get the copies again. I would have reproduced that report verbatim so that Nigerians would know what I was talking about. To make matters worse, even when we have reluctantly accepted because of the pressure from our Commander-in-Chief, to allow the Americans to train us, the Americans insisted they must live in the barracks with the soldiers. I left Abuja and flew to Sokoto to go and meet the governor, to plead with him to give us an area outside the barracks we would prepare it for the Americans. The governor accepted to do that. But the Americans turned it down insisting that they must live in the barracks with soldiers. I asked General Danjuma who was my GOC as far back as 1970, I said sir, you are my GOC in 1970, would you have allowed any army of any other country to come and stay with your own troops in the barracks? Well, at a point I didn't know whether he understood me or not, but this was the type of argument that was going on. I don't have direct evidence but I have every conviction in my mind that it was due to the interference of the Americans when they found out that I was becoming a stumbling block that they gave Obasanjo as a condition for their cooperating with him that he must get rid of the COAS. So the retirement of chief of air staff and chief of naval staff was just a sacrifice because Obasanjo wouldn't have known how to explain to Nigerians what General Malu did to be retired. So he had to sacrifice them. I called the two of them and apologized to them that you are leaving this job on my account. Personally, I don't have any disappointment I did take the job because of the name, not a question of the pride that people are calling me COAS. I wanted an imprint on the Nigerian Army. It is the only job I have done. I like this profession. I want to be on record that when General Malu was COAS, he transformed the Nigeria army.

WT: How do you see the current rejection of the American AFRICOM by the Council of State?

Malu: Once in a while we get some cheering news and I was very excited when I saw that. Because a lot of people called me when I was in London. I said I don't want to respond, until I come back. No nation can claim they have more interest than you your self. Most of the foreign officers who come here on the pretence to train us or do something or the other are people we have trained together. We attended courses together in their country and beat them. We attended courses with them in the UK and do better than them in those courses. So, how do they come back to start teaching us? If you are coming to obtain intelligence at least find a good excuse that will make it like you are doing something for us. In the case of America in particular, America has never done anything for any country because they like the country. They look at what they will benefit out of it. The issue of African Command is nothing but because of the oil interest on the Gulf of Guinea, going out to the Coast of Liberia and so on. Americans are finding an easy place where they can extract oil, and you know is a much shorter route than going around to go to the Middle East. African has the capability of taking up such a command. First of all, the achievement of ECOMOG that was documented everywhere today was something we recommended to the ECOWAS that look you have done what has never been done anywhere else. Keep those troops that were deployed from ECOMOG. We are saying you should keep them separately, but retain them as units, wherever, they are just like other soldiers in your country. Continue to train them. What should be done in the interim is standardizing equipment, because that was one of the problems we had in ECOMOG command. Some people came with equipment that were not compatible with anybody. People from Senegal thought it was America that equipped them and when the Americans started getting dissatisfied with us they took them back. Nigeria came with equipment that was compatible with even Ghana that is our closest friend, so what we recommended was that maintain those troops they have brought a large operational experience, keep on training them in the mean time. Unfortunately, by time we achieved this feat and came out, that is when Obasanjo came out of the prison and started criticizing General Babangida, criticizing late General Abacha for maintaining troops on the ECOMOG. He did not even bother to understand what ECOMOG is all about. Because that was a popular thing in Nigeria then. To say that so much money was spent on ECOMOG is a total lie.

WT: There is this report people are finding difficult to believe. Right now, the American soldiers are occupying the last floor of the Defense Ministry.

Malu: I was in service before that happened. I remember I resisted that I was not going to have any American soldiers sitting with me in the building. That is to prove to you what I am trying to say. When America came we had a defence headquarters in the same place we have some blocks reserved for the Navy and the Air force. Americans are not interested in any of this, it was only where the army was. Having people sitting on one floor on top of you is like sitting with you, watching and observing everything you are doing. Obasanjo in his insecure mind brought those people here to protect him against the over throwing of the government by the Nigeria Army. Who wanted to over throw the government? By 1985 I went to IBB to ask him for a favour, that he should exclude me from any political appointment and I had just left Lagos then for Port Harcourt, so I say the second request is that I want to have field experience, I have stayed too long in Lagos. IBB is alive today ask him he will confirm it to you. So is it many years after I become old that I want to overthrow government to become what? The only message I have for the Nigeria Army is that Obasanjo did not give me any kobo to run Nigerian Army. I was going around preaching to them that if anybody wanted to overthrow the government let them do it after General Malu had left the service.

WT: Do you know what informed the latest moves by the Americans to set up their military base in Nigeria?

Malu: I have explained that to you already, you know the crisis in the Middle East with the potential of what will even happen. If America wants to create democracy by use of force they would have invaded Saudi Arabia. Look at countries that they felt they could attack with just too much sympathy. Is it not the same Americans who equipped the Iraqis with every possible type of weapon to humiliate the Iranians for taking them hostage in the 80s? The reason is that, because of the crisis in the Middle East they are now looking to other places.

Source: http://allafrica.com/stories/200711240118.html
Christianity Etc › Re: Teacher Arrested In Sudan Over A Bear Named Muhammad. by Horus(m): 1:38pm On Dec 02, 2007
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The Teddy Bear after the crime

I hope to God they don't be-head the teddy!
It is too late for the teddy bear.According to the Sudanese authorities the teddy bear was beheaded after angry protesters streamed out of a nearby mosque brandishing clubs and knives.Observers told reporters the beheading of the teddy bear did not appear to be sanctioned by the government of Sudan.
Christianity Etc › Re: Teacher Arrested In Sudan Over A Bear Named Muhammad. by Horus(m): 3:19am On Dec 02, 2007
Was the teddy bear also sentenced to 15 days in prison and deportation?
Christianity Etc › Re: Teacher Arrested In Sudan Over A Bear Named Muhammad. by Horus(m): 8:10pm On Nov 30, 2007
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Thousands of demonstrators in Khartoum, Sudan, call for the British teacher Gillian Gibbons, to receive the death penalty
Christianity Etc › Re: Teacher Arrested In Sudan Over A Bear Named Muhammad. by Horus(m): 3:11pm On Nov 30, 2007
They will soon show the beheading of a teddy bear on an Al Qaeda Video. grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Teacher Arrested In Sudan Over A Bear Named Muhammad. by Horus(m): 3:03pm On Nov 30, 2007
I hope Osama Ben Laden will not call for Jihad because of a teddy bear shocked
Christianity Etc › Re: Teacher Arrested In Sudan Over A Bear Named Muhammad. by Horus(m): 2:52pm On Nov 30, 2007
[size=24pt]Now,Protesters demand execution in teddy bear case[/size]

30 Novenber

KHARTOUM, Sudan  Thousands of Sudanese, many armed with clubs and knives, rallied today in a central square and demanded the execution of a British teacher convicted of insulting Islam for allowing her students to name a teddy bear "Muhammad."The protesters streamed out of mosques after Friday sermons, as pickup trucks with loudspeakers blared messages against Gillian Gibbons, the teacher who was sentenced Thursday to 15 days in prison and deportation. She avoided the more serious punishment of 40 lashes.They massed in central Martyrs Square, outside the presidential palace, where hundreds of riot police were deployed, although they did not try to stop the rally."Shame, shame on the UK.," protesters chanted.They called for Gibbons' execution, saying, "No tolerance: Execution," and "Kill her, kill her by firing squad."The women's prison where Gibbons is being held is far from the site. Unity High School, which is closer by in central Khartoum, is under heavy security protection.The protest arose despite vows by Sudanese security officials the day before, during Gibbons' trial, that threatened demonstrations after Friday prayers would not take place. Some of the protesters carried green banners with the name of the Society for Support of the Prophet Muhammad, a previously unknown group.Many protesters carried clubs, knives and axes  but not automatic weapons, which some have brandished at past government-condoned demonstrations. That suggested today's rally was not organized by the government.A Muslim cleric at Khartoum's main Martyrs Mosque denounced Gibbons during one sermon, saying she intentionally insulted Islam. He did not call for protests, however."Imprisoning this lady does not satisfy the thirst of Muslims in Sudan. But we welcome imprisonment and expulsion," the cleric, Abdul-Jalil Nazeer al-Karouri, a well-known hard-liner, told worshippers."This an arrogant woman who came to our country, cashing her salary in dollars, teaching our children hatred of our Prophet Muhammad," he said.Britain, meanwhile, pursued diplomatic moves to free Gibbons. Prime Minister Gordon Brown spoke with a member of her family to convey his regret, his spokeswoman said."He set out his concern and the fact that we were doing all we could to secure her release," spokeswoman Emily Hands told reporters.Most Britons expressed shock at the verdict by a court in Khartoum, alongside hope it would not raise tensions between Muslims and non-Muslims in Britain."One of the good things is the UK. Muslims who've condemned the charge as completely out of proportion," said Paul Wishart, 37, a student in London."In the past, people have been a bit upset when different atrocities have happened and there hasn't been much voice in the UK. Islamic population, whereas with this, they've quickly condemned it."Muhammad Abdul Bari, secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain, accused the Sudanese authorities of "gross overreaction.""This case should have required only simple common sense to resolve. It is unfortunate that the Sudanese authorities were found wanting in this most basic of qualities," he said.The Muslim Public Affairs Committee, a political advocacy group, said the prosecution was "abominable and defies common sense."Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, spiritual leader of the world's 77 million Anglicans, said Gibbons' prosecution and conviction was "an absurdly disproportionate response to what is at worst a cultural faux pas."Foreign Secretary David Miliband summoned the Sudanese ambassador late Thursday to express Britain's disappointment with the verdict. The Foreign Office said Britain would continue diplomatic efforts to achieve "a swift resolution" to the crisis.Gibbons was arrested Sunday after another staff member at the school complained that she had allowed her 7-year-old students to name a teddy bear Muhammad. Giving the name of the Muslim prophet to an animal or a toy could be considered insulting.The case put Sudan's government in an embarrassing position  facing the anger of Britain on one side and potential trouble from powerful Islamic hard-liners on the other. Many saw the 15-day sentence as an attempt to appease both sides.In The Times, columnist Bronwen Maddox said the verdict was "something of a fudge ,  designed to give a nod to British reproof but also to appease the street."Britain's response applying diplomatic pressure while extolling ties with Sudan and affirming respect for Islam had produced mixed results, British commentators concluded.In an editorial, The Daily Telegraph said Miliband "has tiptoed around the case, avoiding a threat to cut aid and asserting that respect for Islam runs deep in Britain. Given that much of the government's financial support goes to the wretched refugees in Darfur and neighboring Chad, Mr. Miliband's caution is understandable."Now, however, the newspaper said, Britain should recall its ambassador in Khartoum and impose sanctions on the Sudanese regime.

Source: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5340621.html
Christianity Etc › Re: Teacher Arrested In Sudan Over A Bear Named Muhammad. by Horus(m): 11:06pm On Nov 29, 2007
British teacher in Sudan found guilty of insulting Islam in teddy bear case

KHARTOUM, Sudan - Lawyers for a British teacher in Sudan say she has been convicted of the less-serious charge of insulting Islam for letting her pupils name a teddy bear "Muhammad."They say she was sentenced to 15 days in prison and deportation to Britain.Gillian Gibbons could have received 40 lashes and six months in prison in the case if found guilty of the more serious charge of inciting religious hatred and given the maximum penalty.In London, the Foreign Office says it is "extremely disappointed with the sentence."Britain's Foreign Secretary David Miliband has summoned the Sudanese ambassador to explain the verdict.The 54-year-old Gibbons was arrested Sunday after complaints to the Education Ministry that she had insulted the Prophet Muhammad, the most revered figure in Islam, by applying his name to a teddy bear.One of her lawyers says she was found guilty of "insulting the faith of Muslims in Sudan" under Article 125 of the Sudanese criminal code, a less-serious charge than the original count of inciting religious hatred.The charge later was confirmed by a judge leaving the closed court session.Defence lawyers said they would appeal the verdict.Gibbons' employer, Robert Boulos of the Unity High School, called it "a very fair verdict.""She could have had six months and lashes and a fine, and she only got 15 days and deportation," Boulos said. He noted that she would only spend 10 days in prison, having already served five.Gibbons is expected to serve her sentence in the Omdurman women's prison near Khartoum.Religious conservatives in Sudan were outraged by the naming of the teddy bear, and defence lawyers reported receiving death threats."I am threatened. That's why I'm carrying a gun in court," defence lawyer Abdel Khalig Abdallah said, opening his coat to reveal a revolver during a break in the trial.

Source: http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hLNVqmC6qeuv50KJSB27uhea-JuQ
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Nigeria The Most Religious Country! by Horus(m): 11:46am On Nov 29, 2007
Why Is Nigeria The Most Religious Country?
Because Nigeria is The Most Brainwhashed Country!
Most European online forum dont even have a religious section anymore,and even if some have you will not see as much religious threads as HERE on Nairaland.
The religion forum of Nairaland is the biggest meeting of religious and brainwhashed religious fanatics on the internet,This is ridiculous,this is a world record ,and yes Nigeria is The Most religious Brainwhashed Country in the world.
Christianity Etc › Re: The National Stadium In Lagos And Hypocritical Christian Congregations by Horus(m): 2:31pm On Nov 27, 2007
Christians don't do any effort to clean the toilets?,this is normal it is their state of mind;They should clean Christianity First.
Politics › Re: African Massacre by Horus(m): 10:03pm On Nov 24, 2007
Darfur rebels spurn Chinese force

Rebels in Darfur have demanded that peacekeepers from China pull out of the Sudanese region just hours after the arrival of 135 Chinese engineers. The army engineers arrived on Saturday to prepare for a joint UN and African Union peacekeeping force of 26,000. The key Justice and Equality Movement (Jem) rebel group accuses China of being complicit in the Darfur conflict. Last month the group attacked a Chinese-controlled oilfield, kidnapping several workers.

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Chinese force

The Jem says it wants China to withdraw its support for the Sudanese government. They say that oil sold to the Chinese is being used to fund government operations in Darfur. Rebels would not allow the Chinese into areas controlled by their forces, Jem leader Khalil Ibrahim told the news agency Reuters following the arrival of the engineers.

'Oil for blood'

"We oppose them coming because China is not interested in human rights. It is just interested in Sudan's resources," he said. "We are calling on them to quit Sudan, especially the petroleum areas." Mr Ibrahim did not say whether he would target the Chinese engineers. "I am not saying I will attack them. I will not say I will not attack them," he said. "What I am saying is that they are taking our oil for blood." The Chinese engineers are tasked with building roads and bridges and dig wells ahead of the deployment of the joint peacekeeping force planned for January. The rebels have said they would not object to peacekeepers from any country other than China. But on Friday, Sudanese President Omar Al-Bashir said his country would only accept non-African troops from Pakistan or China. A month ago the Jem attacked Sudan's Defra oilfield in the Kordofan region, run by a Chinese-controlled consortium, the Greater Nile Petroleum Operating Company. Jem said at the time that the Chinese company had one week to leave Sudan. An estimated 200,000 people have died during four-and-a-half years of fighting in Darfur, with a further two million people displaced.

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7111206.stm
Politics › Re: Government Rejects US Military Base In Nigeria by Horus(m): 8:17pm On Nov 24, 2007
@SwtNsoFLyy
We dont need any Fucking American in Africa.
Go home Yankee,Go to Hell.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible- The Great Book Of Contradictions by Horus(m): 8:09pm On Nov 24, 2007
in the book of deut:13 6-11 and it says;

"If your brother, the son of your father or of your mother, or your son or daughter, or the
spouse whom you embrace, or your most intimate friend, tries to secretly seduce you, saying,
"Let us go and serve other gods," unknown to you or your ancestors before you, gods of the
peoples surrounding you, whether near you or far away, anywhere throughout the world, you
must not consent, you must not listen to him; you must show him no pity, you must not spare
him or conceal his guilt. No, you must [b]kill [/b]him, your hand must strike the first blow in [b]putting him to death [/b]and the hands of the rest of the people following. You must stone him to death,
since he has tried to divert you from Yahweh your God, "

whenever i read those passages, i can't understand why i got involved with this God in the first place. What kind of God is this for goodness sake?

i would be delighted if anyone can help me explain the above passages COHERENTLY.
Still No explanation;This god is a KILLER. shocked
Politics › Re: Government Rejects US Military Base In Nigeria by Horus(m): 7:20pm On Nov 24, 2007
Why US Wants to Establish Military Base in the Country

24 November 2007

Some years ago when he was the Chief of Army Staff, General Victor Malu opposed the presence of American military in Nigeria. This earned him the fury of the then Commander-in-Chief, and Malu was consequently retired.
Two weeks ago, the Americans renewed their moves to set up their African Command (AFRICOM) in Nigeria, but the Council of State rejected this. In this interview, Malu explained how the US first made its efforts, why he opposed it and what setting up an American military base here would mean.

WT: The Council of State recently rejected the setting up of a US military African Command (AFRICOM) in Nigeria. When you were army chief some years ago, you rejected similar moves. What informed your action then?

Malu: What the Americans wanted to do was not to set up a command. The Americans because of five years of Abacha's administration that blocked Americans from developing or updating their intelligence on armed forces of Nigeria took the opportunity of somebody who had no knowledge about military in the name of Obasanjo to come and associate with him and convinced him that they wanted to train us for peace-keeping. Americans cannot claim that they want to train us for peace-keeping. We've succeeded in peace-keeping where Americans have not succeeded. What they wanted was to update their intelligence on the armed forces of a wretched country like Nigeria with all the sanctions on it. So they came and told Obasanjo that they wanted to train us for peace-keeping. In Liberia, of the 16 member states of the ECOWAS, 10 of them took part in the peace-keeping. Some sent a token of 11 men, some 16 men, but it was still a contingent from those countries. Why America would choose to come and train Nigeria that provided the cream of the peace-keepers? It didn't take anybody with analytical mind before they know what the Americans wanted. Any other person would have told them thank you, but we don't give our intelligence or armed forces on a silver plate. But that was what Obasanjo jumped on. And unfortunately, for him I was the COAS. Making me COAS does not mean I was a slave. I am a general who knew my job, who wanted the job to be done in a respectable way. So I went and met General Danjuma to explain to him that these people are not coming to train us for peace-keeping. In fact, they are not capable of training us on peace-keeping. Peace-keeping is not a nuclear, it is not a biological, it is not a chemical warfare. That is what an infantry man does, that is what we do in Liberia better than anybody else. Ambassador Howard Jetter, who later became American ambassador to Nigeria, represented the American government on the Liberia crisis. He wrote a report to the American government on the completion of our mission after we have supervised one of the most successful elections in Africa, and told them that from his personal observation, if America in future wants to assist any of the regions that has its military component such as ECOWAS they should not talk about sending anybody, that the troops he met are competent, they are determined, they have the skills to do the type of job he doesn't think any Americans would come and do in a third world country. I had two copies of that report. I made a mistake, I gave them to General Danjuma, I knew I can never get the copies again. I would have reproduced that report verbatim so that Nigerians would know what I was talking about. To make matters worse, even when we have reluctantly accepted because of the pressure from our Commander-in-Chief, to allow the Americans to train us, the Americans insisted they must live in the barracks with the soldiers. I left Abuja and flew to Sokoto to go and meet the governor, to plead with him to give us an area outside the barracks we would prepare it for the Americans. The governor accepted to do that. But the Americans turned it down insisting that they must live in the barracks with soldiers. I asked General Danjuma who was my GOC as far back as 1970, I said sir, you are my GOC in 1970, would you have allowed any army of any other country to come and stay with your own troops in the barracks? Well, at a point I didn't know whether he understood me or not, but this was the type of argument that was going on. I don't have direct evidence but I have every conviction in my mind that it was due to the interference of the Americans when they found out that I was becoming a stumbling block that they gave Obasanjo as a condition for their cooperating with him that he must get rid of the COAS. So the retirement of chief of air staff and chief of naval staff was just a sacrifice because Obasanjo wouldn't have known how to explain to Nigerians what General Malu did to be retired. So he had to sacrifice them. I called the two of them and apologized to them that you are leaving this job on my account. Personally, I don't have any disappointment I did take the job because of the name, not a question of the pride that people are calling me COAS. I wanted an imprint on the Nigerian Army. It is the only job I have done. I like this profession. I want to be on record that when General Malu was COAS, he transformed the Nigeria army.

WT: How do you see the current rejection of the American AFRICOM by the Council of State?

Malu: Once in a while we get some cheering news and I was very excited when I saw that. Because a lot of people called me when I was in London. I said I don't want to respond, until I come back. No nation can claim they have more interest than you your self. Most of the foreign officers who come here on the pretence to train us or do something or the other are people we have trained together. We attended courses together in their country and beat them. We attended courses with them in the UK and do better than them in those courses. So, how do they come back to start teaching us? If you are coming to obtain intelligence at least find a good excuse that will make it like you are doing something for us. In the case of America in particular, America has never done anything for any country because they like the country. They look at what they will benefit out of it. The issue of African Command is nothing but because of the oil interest on the Gulf of Guinea, going out to the Coast of Liberia and so on. Americans are finding an easy place where they can extract oil, and you know is a much shorter route than going around to go to the Middle East. African has the capability of taking up such a command. First of all, the achievement of ECOMOG that was documented everywhere today was something we recommended to the ECOWAS that look you have done what has never been done anywhere else. Keep those troops that were deployed from ECOMOG. We are saying you should keep them separately, but retain them as units, wherever, they are just like other soldiers in your country. Continue to train them. What should be done in the interim is standardizing equipment, because that was one of the problems we had in ECOMOG command. Some people came with equipment that were not compatible with anybody. People from Senegal thought it was America that equipped them and when the Americans started getting dissatisfied with us they took them back. Nigeria came with equipment that was compatible with even Ghana that is our closest friend, so what we recommended was that maintain those troops they have brought a large operational experience, keep on training them in the mean time. Unfortunately, by time we achieved this feat and came out, that is when Obasanjo came out of the prison and started criticizing General Babangida, criticizing late General Abacha for maintaining troops on the ECOMOG. He did not even bother to understand what ECOMOG is all about. Because that was a popular thing in Nigeria then. To say that so much money was spent on ECOMOG is a total lie.

WT: There is this report people are finding difficult to believe. Right now, the American soldiers are occupying the last floor of the Defense Ministry.

Malu: I was in service before that happened. I remember I resisted that I was not going to have any American soldiers sitting with me in the building. That is to prove to you what I am trying to say. When America came we had a defence headquarters in the same place we have some blocks reserved for the Navy and the Air force. Americans are not interested in any of this, it was only where the army was. Having people sitting on one floor on top of you is like sitting with you, watching and observing everything you are doing. Obasanjo in his insecure mind brought those people here to protect him against the over throwing of the government by the Nigeria Army. Who wanted to over throw the government? By 1985 I went to IBB to ask him for a favour, that he should exclude me from any political appointment and I had just left Lagos then for Port Harcourt, so I say the second request is that I want to have field experience, I have stayed too long in Lagos. IBB is alive today ask him he will confirm it to you. So is it many years after I become old that I want to overthrow government to become what? The only message I have for the Nigeria Army is that Obasanjo did not give me any kobo to run Nigerian Army. I was going around preaching to them that if anybody wanted to overthrow the government let them do it after General Malu had left the service.

WT: Do you know what informed the latest moves by the Americans to set up their military base in Nigeria?

Malu: I have explained that to you already, you know the crisis in the Middle East with the potential of what will even happen. If America wants to create democracy by use of force they would have invaded Saudi Arabia. Look at countries that they felt they could attack with just too much sympathy. Is it not the same Americans who equipped the Iraqis with every possible type of weapon to humiliate the Iranians for taking them hostage in the 80s? The reason is that, because of the crisis in the Middle East they are now looking to other places.

Source: http://allafrica.com/stories/200711240118.html
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do God Leave Us To Suffer? by Horus(m): 4:46pm On Nov 24, 2007
Why Do God Leave Us To Suffer?
Because he is sick and tired with religious fanatics of all kinds,he is sick and tired with people who worship only Dead white men and who forget about their African ancestors.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Some Memorable Quotes Of George Bush by Horus(m): 3:39pm On Nov 24, 2007
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible- The Great Book Of Contradictions by Horus(m): 1:28pm On Nov 24, 2007
Jehova demands that man eat excrement:

"Eat the food as you would a barley cake; bake it in the sight of the people, using human excrement for fuel." (Ezekiel 4:12) shocked shocked shocked
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible- The Great Book Of Contradictions by Horus(m): 8:00pm On Nov 23, 2007
Dont transfer the frustrations of your ANUS here
If your Fantasms are only about ANUS,I think you are on the wrong forum grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible- The Great Book Of Contradictions by Horus(m): 7:35pm On Nov 23, 2007
The bible then shows the very intricate Character of God.
This god must be confused,he contradict himself in his own book.
You must have a spirit called the Holy Ghost to get it.
This god  must have a spirit called the Holy Confusion to have so much contradictions in the bible.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Sunday Sacred And Holy? Candid Confessions by Horus(m): 7:22pm On Nov 23, 2007
If God went to sleep on the seventh day and Christ is worshipped on Sunday then who are they (Sunday churchgoers) praying to? Because God is sleeping, unless you are trying to wake him up and serve him on his day of sleeping . . . God worked a whole six days and now on Sunday morning he’s laying in his bed. This is how he makes this sound. . . . God is sitting in his chair, or laying in his bed he goes to sleep on Sunday morning, and you go to church on Sunday morning and go, “oh God, oh God, oh God.” Then you’re wondering why your prayers are not being answered. The reason why your prayers are not being answered is quite simple; because God sleeps on Sunday. You have to change the day. Try Wednesday when God is up working. Have you ever tried to disturb your mother and father when they were working (or sleeping)?
You don’t thank God for health and the gifts that you have. You’re in church on Sunday begging for more stuff.
Politics › Re: Sss Arrest Suspected Al-qaeda Members In Kano by Horus(m): 10:41pm On Nov 22, 2007
Nigeria charges Islamist suspects with "terrorism"

Thu 22 Nov 2007

Nigerian prosecutors on Thursday accused five suspected Islamist militants of preparing to attack government targets and said three of them had received training at a "terrorist camp" in Algeria.The men were arrested earlier this month in northern Nigeria by the State Security Services (SSS), a secret police force.One of the charges filed on Thursday said three of the men had trained, between 2005 and August 2007, in Algeria with the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat (GSPC) "with intent to attack government facilities and cause insurrection in Nigeria".Since January, the GSPC has renamed itself al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb after winning approval from Osama bin Laden to brand itself as an al Qaeda affiliate. It has carried out a series of high-profile urban bombings.The U.S. embassy warned in September that Nigeria, Africa's top oil producer, was at risk of "terrorist attack", and bin Laden once named the country as ripe for jihad, but Nigeria has yet to see any attack in the style of al Qaeda.The charge sheet said the five men, all in their early 30s, "did conspire to commit terrorist acts".One of the charges said they had "one AK47 rifle, two live ammunitions, seven dynamites, fertiliser (urea) and 11 explosives devices with intent to use same to attack government facilities and installations in Lagos and Ibadan".Two of the men were also accused of involvement in the fatal shooting of a man in February 2005. No details of the incident were given, nor was any explanation provided about whether it had any connection with the other charges.The case was adjourned until Nov. 29, when the men would take a plea.Police and the secretive SSS have made sporadic arrests of suspected jihadists for some years and trials have been launched but there has been no conviction, and no conclusive evidence of al Qaeda's presence in Nigeria has been made public.Nigeria, Africa's most populous country, is divided about equally between Christians and Muslims. The two communities usually live side by side peacefully but there are occasional outbreaks of religious violence.Tensions worsened in the northern part of the country, which is predominantly Muslim, after 12 state governments introduced a stricter enforcement of sharia law in 2000, alienating sizeable Christian minorities. Thousands were killed in sporadic riots.Against this backdrop, some Western diplomats and analysts have expressed concerns that Nigeria could become a target for militant Islamists. The U.S embassy said in an official warning to American residents of Nigeria in September that unspecified targets for attack included Western interests.

Source: http://africa.reuters.com/wire/news/usnL22253541.html
Christianity Etc › Re: In Anticipation Of The Final Exodus! by Horus(m): 10:00pm On Nov 22, 2007
It was prophesied that you will reside in a strangers land for 400 years of bondage (Genesis 15:13).
Christianity Etc › Re: Pray For Israel! by Horus(m): 8:44pm On Nov 22, 2007
Praying For Israel is a waist of time.Those people in Israel today are not the real Israelites. If they were, they wouldn’t need armies to fight for them. According to their Torah, their God fought their battles for them. Their Lord defeated the Egyptians for them in Exodus Chapter 15. Their Lord defeated the Canaanites for them in Numbers 21:3. , The Israelite’s God kicked much butt for them. Right now these people who are claiming to be the Israelites are getting their butts kicked. Can’t you see the irony in the story?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Most Africans Worship Greco-roman Gods, Or Rather, Dead White Men? by Horus(m): 10:32am On Nov 22, 2007
khai khai and cgift are two example of Africans who Worship Greco-roman Gods, Or Rather, Dead White men. grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Black Race And White Race Secret by Horus(m): 10:07pm On Nov 21, 2007
but you have also been enslaved  spiritually  by their Gods and their life styles( christmas, easter, etc). Most of you probably have a cross you kiss every morning or a picture of Michelangelo's rendition of Zeus a.k.a Jesus christ hanging in your house(Blonde hair, blue eyes guy).
This is Correct!!,95% of people on this forum are mental slave and they worship the image of[b] the White Beast a.k.a Jesus christ.[/b]
We keep getting defeated because of the image of the white Jesus.
When we give out our prayers (etheric mental energy) these forces go to the image in your mind the white Jesus then channel through to the white male who is the physical manifestation of that image. The Caucasian feed off your mental strength regardless if they are agreeable or disagreeable. With all mental energy from all races channelled through the white Jesus the Caucasian race gain a god complex leading to intentional or unintentional white supremacy. Tama-re (Africa) is the only continent what has not economically progressed last century,it has become worse. Our hundreds of politicians, thousands of soldiers throughout Africa must have similarities in their nature that allow them to become corrupt or easily controlled. It is moonney (money) that leads to sin (bu-sin-ness) and badly interpreted Christianity which creates loop-holes in rationale thought allowing disagreeable forces to take over. Within tama-re (Africa) many of the traditional religions within the village are really the birthplaces of nearly ALL religions on earth. Most of the traditional religions stem back to the Egyptians and the Sumerians or the stars.Until we as Nubians in Tama-re (Africa) as a collective understand and embrace the nature of our original existence on a religious, historical and scientific level we will always be controlled by evolutionary forces detrimental to our existence.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Most Africans Worship Greco-roman Gods, Or Rather, Dead White Men? by Horus(m): 8:02pm On Nov 21, 2007
What/who should they worship
Their Ancestors.
Christianity Etc › Re: Child Abuse In My Church by Horus(m): 11:38am On Nov 21, 2007
People committing sins while thinking they are working for God.
Christian churchs are full of them.

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