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Kingcalls:
Y are u guys this dull.....smh

Oga counter my argument and stop being emotional.

If you're going to rate a player based on goals, don't discredit the players who helped him achieve the larger numbers of those goals.

frankson1:
How many Champion's league finals or trophies has he lifted after Xavi and Iniesta's era

His name is Lionel Messi, not Barcelona Messi. He has won the Balon d'or since they left, hasn't he? and trust me, he didn't do that just by scoring goals.

phr0nesis:
That's why he keeps scoring, I'm sure he'll retire when he stops scoring

And Messi isn't the one scoring?

Tell me, who would you rather have in your team? A player who only scores goals, or one who scores and assists other players to score?

SonyaSpence:
When the Mancity move news got out, y'all said he was going to an easy team where he would find everything easy, ya'all said why didn't he go to Man Utd? Now to your utmost surprise and 'painment' he moved to Man Utd and has started doing his thing, as usual, you're bringing the lame argument again. All I can see in your story is pain and hate. When you're good you're good. Ronaldo has proved over the years that he is good. Nothing can change that.

Man United comprises of great players as well but not a world class coach like Guardiola, Klopp, TT and the likes, that is the only deficiency that Ronaldo has in that club.

You can't be in a club with Bruno Fernandes, Pogba etc and not get goals. If Ronaldo stops scoring goals, tell me what else he'll contribute to the team.

Tohsynetita1:
So, Messi is not supported by versed players?

Go watch Messi's goals, most of them were borne out of individual brilliance. He also creates supports for other players in the form of assists.

phr0nesis:
The small clubs you guys keep mentioning can't afford him. They don't even submit bids. How can he play for them when they can't sign him?

It still doesn't make a difference when you've played with stars all your career. He always has people supporting him. If Ronaldo stops scoring, he can't guarantee you anything. If Messi stops scoring, he will guarantee you assists and that's what makes a complete attacker.

imam07:
nah people like you have said Ronaldo is finished. Goals in soccer is what matters. Forget dribbling. Despite Okocha dribbles,he was not even awarded African best. Oyibo people don't need your dribbles but goals . And that is what cr7 is currently doing. This is what makes him different and better than Messi at d moment. Ronaldo scored goals and u all singing tap in goals. When his goals was was displayed on score board or livescore,was it tag as tap in goals? He is 36 yrs for God sake. You want him to be running 100 metres at a goal d way he did in Man U and R.madrid.
Appreciate a player that score goals when u see one.

Messi scores goals (most of which he single-handedly does), provides entertainment by dribbling, makes key passes and assists.

You don't rate an attacker only by goals, you have to include assists made, whether those assists resulted to goals or not. If you compare Ronaldo with Messi based on that, then the former is nowhere near the latter.

One is a more complete and team-driven player than the other, and we both know who that is.

Kingcalls:
...

Why didn't “Mr. prove himself in
different leagues” go to smaller clubs
and score those goals? From Man
United, he went to RMA filled with
world class players. Why wouldn't it
be easy when the team played for
him?

From RMA, he went to Juventus who
were dominating their league
consecutively for years. You wouldn't
expect him not to get goals na.
Now he's back again at United, and
you're saying he has proven himself.

He has been surrounded by good
players over the years, so don't tell
me anything about proving himself
and single-handedly doing so.

Kingcalls:
Messi has only done it for one club...Ronaldo has done it for 4 different clubs... u guys must b slow learners

4 BIG clubs oga, 4 BIG clubs.

donbrowser:
You're talking to someone that's comparing a striker with Midfielders

Why not? Whether striker, defender or midfielder, one of the basic skills of a footballer is ball control. So comparing a striker with a midfielder on that basis is not wrong.

oluwafeolami:
Get sense quickly sir or ma. Update ur reasoning faculty, the whole world has left u behind

I don't know if she's right or wrong about this but I tell you sir, if your thinking is not determined by the word of God, there's trouble lurking around.

You see that book? Your whole life is in there, that is not an ordinary book. If you can search with good intent, then you will be amazed by what you discover.

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggar
Isoright

They got nothing in common

Klopp is a boss and master and tuchel the chelshit manager is a boy

He go come around with little effort then builds upon or rather build on wetin klopp don achieve ....
And then call it success

Make that “Chelshit” catch your yeye Barca team wey nor fit beat Granada for house, una nor go know wetin jam una. You think say to win UCL after joining a club mid-season and beating Man city three times in a row na small pikin business?

Enoch07:
And to think nairaland just help to promote the game. I trust some perv in this forum to rush and download.

I wouldn't be surprised if you also end up downloading it.

Diffdeef:
Top 10 players in the world..

1. Cristiano ronaldo
2. Neymar
3.. Robert Lewandowski
4. Kylian Mbappé
5. Kevin De Bruyne
6. Virgil van Dijk
7. Sadio Mané
8. Riyad Mahrez
9. Erling Haaland
10. Kimmich

Sorry did i miss any Argentine dwarf ?

How N'golo Kante isn't among top 5 is what I don't understand, and he's not even among the top 10. Ronaldo, number 1? Mbappe and Neymar ahead of KDB? Guy, you're funny.

1. Lionel Messi
2. Robert Lewandowski
3. Kevin De Bruyne
4. N'golo Kante
5. Neymar
6. Cristiano Ronaldo
7. Kylian Mbappe
8. Joshua Kimmich
9. Matteo Kovacic (Yes! this may come off as a surprise but you don't have to be too smart to know that this guy is up there).
10. Erling Haaland.

MrColdsweat:
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Who hold the Guinness and Epl record for most assists by a defender?

Who's the best right back in the world?

See the first name that appeared....

What career highlights does James have?

Go nd watch Arnold's 2 freekicks against Chelsea....


Meanwhile, Arnold's assist to origi vs barcelona is bigger than reece James entire career.....

https://www.goal.com/en-ae/news/goal-ultimate-11-powered-by-fifa-21-alexander-arnold-is-the-best-/l5syk7u5kd7m1arfdxt5og681

How you rate a right back based on assists is something I can't seem to figure out, yet you act like a football scholar.

No sane coach would see James and TAA and pick the latter for a right back position, when it's obvious he's a woeful defender. I'm sure he can't even play as a wingback. James fits both roles so well: He doesn't offer too much going forward but he's a good crosser of the ball when he has the chance, and he also has great defensive skills.

Just because TAA came into limelight before James doesn't mean he's a better player.

Mangekyo, please take it easy on that guy acting like he knows it all in football. He had to switch accounts hahaha!

hopefulLandlord:
I already told you

That you were a Christian? I'm not sure that answers the question. As a Christian, what made you read the Bible? Did you do it to seek knowledge and understanding on what it says or you just did it as a religious activity?

hopefulLandlord:
you asked me "why" I read the newtestament? I replied you or could you rephrase your question to remove ambiguity?

The “why” there meant your purpose for reading it.

hopefulLandlord:
I was once a Christian so yes I have read the bible

Okay, but you didn't answer the second question.

Dozie32:
thats why I don't go to church..

That is just a cheap excuse. There are still churches out there that follow the way of God's word, you just haven't looked enough because you don't even want to. One thing you should know is, the true church of God all over the world will still stand, whether there are fakes or not.

hopefulLandlord:
YAHWEH vs AMADIOHA

What is the difference between Yahweh and Amadioha? Nothing, they are both gods.

What is the difference between the speaking in tongues of a “born again” Christian and the incantations of a Juju worshipper? Nothing! They both speak gibberish in the name of talking to gods.

What is the difference between the sacrificial rituals in the bible and the sacrificial ritual of the African traditional worshipper? Nothing. They are both rituals.

What is the difference between the Pope’s regalia and the Juju priest's regalia? Nothing, except the Pope's regalia shines more.

What is difference between the statues, symbols, altars, and signs in churches and the idols and symbols in the temple of the juju priest? Nothing.

What is the difference between a pastor casting out demons and evil spirits with swearing, binding/casting and the exorcism of evil spirit by the Juju priest? Nothing.

There is only one difference - packaging! No religion is superior to another. Foreign religion appears to be more divine than our local religion simply because they are well packaged.

Force me to choose one of the two, I like the fans of Amadioha more. At least I know our politicians fear him more.

Have you read a Bible before, particularly the new testament? If yes, why?

NikAustine:
forget the second half...do you think if spurs have taken the lead you go recurlize?...go ask others..

By the way Son chance wasn't the only one ..there was dele Alli.. there was one good cross from this black guy...forgotten his name into the box... Many instances and opportunities they failed to capitalize on....man united getting those opportunities... That 4-0 2 years ago will be child's play

I wish our game this weekend would be against Man United, not City. But the clash is still far, I go don forget this your comment before then.

What is so special about United's 4-0 win that you had to go pull out from 2 years ago? They faced a new youthful Chelsea team under a rookie coach. Most people expected that. Worse off, United ended without a trophy that season.

When Chelsea beat United 4-0, they ended up winning the league that season. So what's special about United's 4-0 win?

fergie001:
Real fight with 3 teams on 13 points...OK ooooo!

One of those teams has only faced mid-table teams.

fergie001:
So you support both Chelsea & Liv?

I support Chelsea, I only admitted that there are only two teams in the EPL capable of putting a real fight towards winning the league.

NikAustine:
if not that Spurs were poor in scoring in the first half....they would hv beaten Chelsea...except you didn't watch first half n see Spurs chances. I don't think if you meet man united...they will missing those chances

Spurs didn't create clear cut chances, but they were dominant. The only real chance they had was Son's one on one effort that Kepa luckily saved. Besides that, they didn't pose much threat in our 18-yard box. Rudiger also had a shot blocked, but that wasn't close to Son's chance.

Chelsea's dominance in the second half was far more than Spurs' in the first half. We could have scored 5-6 goals, but we were wasteful, thanks to Werner. So don't try to look for an excuse to discredit Chelsea. You guys have been saying this since last season but we keep proving you lot wrong. Man United doesn't pose as much threats as Liverpool does, so let them come.

Emma1Oj:
I can sense jealousy from the headline. Is it only Chelsea that still unbeaten in EPL? What about Liverpool and Manu? Has both lost any match yet?

Chelsea and jealousy are like 5&6

I wonder how the jealousy comes in here o. What are you talking about? hater!

vickydevoka:
Mount didn't play badly. Just dat kante is highly needed. U can't remove kovasic who has been at the top of his game. Jorginho who is de European best player. # u love jorginho n kante like mad. They both made midfield game easy

Mount played really badly, to me, he's been like that since the start of the season. I'm a top fan of Mount but I must say the truth when I see it, he has been very poor this season. Misfiring, not connecting with the ball well in front of goal, making misplaced passes and even holding on to the ball when he should make a pass.

His creativity level has dropped, and this is bad for Lukaku who's hungry for goals. There was so much difference when Kante got in, and Lukaku was able to get the chances he needed, especially when Werner was introduced. I'd like to see more of K-J-K. No doubt Kovacic has been our best player this season.

dboo442:
Tuchel is so tactical, after d first half I said to d person besides me that we needed kante Voila! Here he comes the little man that cause big problem to an opponent.....I love coaches that reads game and do changes regardless of their candidate.

I've been so disappointed in Mount this season, he has been a shadow of himself, and I think that's because he's becoming selfish. Honestly, I wasn't surprised to see Kante come in after half time, but I was surprised it wasn't Kovacic that was taken off.

That made me happy, seeing it was Mount. You rarely see the K-J-K combination, that's actually beastly from Tuchel. I hope he does that again against City. I think he did it towards the end of the UCL final.

[quote author= post=105988028]You can say that again Sir Blue ......
Osondi, Owendi. [/quote]Between two of us, I nor know who like Chelsea pass o lol.

fergie001:
Which one is Chelsea or Liverpool.....Stay one lane so that we can know which is which.

I didn't say “or” , I said “and” .

fergie001:
So the people they defeated 8-2 with 11 v 11 isn't a club abi?

You wan dey compare Bayern with Spurs? You're going off topic here. Your initial point was that beating Spurs isn't a thing to be excited about because your team also beat them (last season). If they're so small, why did they defeat your team 6-1, even with a red card?

NikAustine:
Well let's watch and see Sha...no be so. If they can beat man United then I will agree. Afterall na man u dey marry Dem

We can't use Man United as our yardstick to determine our title chances. Una oga Liverpool nor fit beat us with red card. We dey play una second oga this weekend, na then we go really know wetin dey sup, not man United.