₦airaland Forum

Amarathripple0:
Lol I have 3 close friends who are seasoned Product Managers, they’ve been doing it before the role became cool and based on their experience, I think I’ll stick to my function as a Project Manager as the growth potential here in the UK appears to be faster than that of a PM (Product).

Zahra29:
You're welcome

Yes, 2 years should be solid enough experience to open doors to more senior BA roles

Yes -Agile BA, but last few years I've moved more into product management roles

Ticha:
For Australia however, in comparison, do you think you would have been able to easily scale up to well paying jobs like in the UK? Oh yes, especially if you head to the regions. Even non-professional jobs pay enough for people to be able live comfortably. PR is also a lot quicker at about 3 years ish. PSW visas also count towards PR in Australia. You can of course also get straight residency from offshore

Also, have you been able to save more as compared to the UK on those high salaries or it all goes back into daily living?
Husbot is on 3x his UK income. He worked for an international civil engineering consultancy (UK owned) and using cost codes plus chatting with colleagues he’s on the same salary as a technical director would be on in the UK. He’s about 2 steps below a tech director. He might earn the same if a contractor in the UK but then it means income will not be reliable whereas he’s PAYE here and will double his income as a contractor here. Interestingly, majority of his work is Australia and Middle East based.
Whichever way you cut it, we’re better off here. I am on about 2.5 x what my UK income would be. Our incomes would be similar in Australia with a slightly lower cost of living as houses are a lot cheaper to buy there so we’d have more savings.
For the first time, we do have proper savings. Savings locked away that we won’t have to dip into at all even at death or critical illness (have insurances in place) and I am totally retiring at 50.

Does Australia benefit from being close to Asia which is where a lot of countries import from? (Prices of clothes, food etc) Looked it up and found out that China is AU's biggest trade partner
Yes and no. China is their biggest market for exports. Certainly they import a lot from there too but population numbers means that the market is not big enough to translate into cheaper products for Australians. Australia is very keen on increasing their population. They have the land and space for it and are on a drive to achieve that.

I kind of want to stay near home for retirement like you have said, which is the biggest thought in my head but its nearly impossible to eat one's cake and have it.
You can do that. We didn’t move to New Zealand till we were in our late 30s with 3 young children aged under 5. That is usually the time when careers stagnate especially if family life is important. We managed to advance our careers and spend good time with the children as well. By the time we return to the UK or Europe (depends on where we land), we would both be in a position to drop to part time work till our youngest is 18 without compromising our standard of living. Plan, plan and plan.

Zahra29:
Yes and no

Yes because the certifications are easy enough to obtain either via self study or training schools , and there's usually a lot of open roles

No because employers typically look for specific domain/industry experience e.g. banking, payments, insurance,media, e-commerce etc, because you need a level of understanding of the business requirements and processes to be able to engage effectively with the stakeholders.

There are generalist BA roles , but in my experience they tend to be fewer in number.

One way in is to start with junior BA roles and then build up business experience. The senior BA or contract roles are more exacting in their job specifications and would require years of relevant industry experience.

There are also technical BA roles which is a good route for someone with (as the name suggests ) technical skills e.g. programming, sysadmin

Business Analysis is suitable for both men and women as long as you have good relationship building and stakeholder management skills.

Goke7:
BA roles are quite easy to get into depending on how you're able to combine transferable skills from previous roles or career like one of us mentioned. Doing a course like BCS BA foundations can help as it has so much content on business analysis. Above all, hands on experience from credible platforms will give needed boost and confidence to begin to apply for roles and face up to interviews. The BA job market in the UK is so enormous as the UK is traditionally too process driven across all sectors always leading to increase demand of BAs. Of course for women it's good but make sure you have an investigative, research focused and curious mind which is a necessity as a BA.

Amarathripple0:
Honestly, according to my Supervisor who’s a Business Analyst, he says it’s easy to get into, that a few Udemy courses here and there can sharpen one up. Furthermore, certain skills are transferable. Then, YouTube is a good place to learn; the Indian guys are my favourite. I believe we have a few Business Analysts here who can also advise. Yes, it’s more than suitable for women Lol.

Amarathripple0:
Amen oh! Well yea, a lot of PM roles and then some Operations/Admin, Delivery manager and Implementation manager, and Business Analyst roles disguising as PM roles.

LagosismyHome:
To run an economy and grow it, you need workforce to make it run like a well oiled machine.... all these years what have been saving UK is hardworking EU people that have been coming . Even if their citizens work, its not enough labour to run the economy efficiently

But I guess the EU were not appreciated and all we were hearing is they are taking our jobs, they are taking up the NHS, our benefit.... ok. Brexit happened and EU people have jejely be packing their load, why stay where you are not wanted .

Now a self made problem has arisen and will continue to grow and grow .... Shrinking workforce problem . Let me see how UK can operate with no labour. ...... it would have been good self if Nigerians or indians were not coming to save their ass, it is them that would have been going to force immigrants that abeg come na.

LagosismyHome:
Say no to immigration abi ....

oya make people continue to fight and live with staff shortage in several industries . Make we all enjoy panic attack, e go touch everybody .

In the meantime any Nigerian who wants to relocate continue, grace will follow you and you will find your feet and your path

Munamoqel:
Stems course is what we need ! Are they actually improving their Lives or down grading it ? From a bank manager with a driver an a house in lekki ( 5 bedrooms ) to be hanging inside a 1 bedroom with 4 depandants and be entering bus up and down !how is it improvement ? From driving a benz 2018 ( Automatic ) to driving a dead manual Mazda in the Uk ? From eating fresh organics healthy food to froozen GM food ? From warm free weather to Freezer that you need thousand of pounds to keep warm ? From see you doctor now now to been number 7m of the NHS waiting list? From been respect in your community to be look down upon by right wing oyinbo . It seem your definition of improvement is upside down . If You can maintain the level of life style you enjoy in Najia and add it then na rubbish.

Godada:
How old is Modric?

Godada:


CR7, hate him or love him is a legend.

He doesn't deserve this.

Ten Hag could have handled this matter nicely.

There is still two substitution to be made, he could have done that.

From turning a serial winner to a part bit player to benching him.

If Ten Hag didn't want him, he should have let him go.

What's the point of all this........to humiliate CR7 or what?

TheGuyFromHR:
It's still quite a lot of thinking you've done there.

TheGuyFromHR:
You seem so sure of this.

courage54:
Please does HSBC gives visa sponsorship?

Anyone with experience should give insight

Gemma11:
How much is that visa fee sef...It is big money to Nigerians but not to the UK. It is nowhere near billions when you speak about pounds.

Amarathripple0:
What’s even funny is that they are on the Tier2 list of sponsors. It’s not a FTC but a permanent role. I’ve been doing job interviews all week and most of them have not asked about my visa status. So I doubt I’ll respond because I don’t have the energy to defend my right to work, it’s tiring abeg.

Amarathripple0:
Wahala for who no be UK citizen. Anyway, the ultimate search continues

Lexusgs430:
I would start by shipping all illegals, to Rwanda........ No court order would stop me .........

Lexusgs430:
Emi lọkàn.........

Lexusgs430:
LT don go .......

Goke7:
Do you read her entire story?

japhethGold:
Income tax is the UK is over 60% for high income earners so even if they pay you high wages, the government will collect most of the money as tax and leave you just ok.

On the contrary, company tax is very low at 19% so it pays companies to not give their money to employees as the government would collect most of it.

Goke7:
Thanks for saying it all. @hustla I told you earlier that most folks don't tell you the entire story but here is a credible one. And it's same with all I've heard from different folks with same experience

Ticha:
Have you seen the cost of living in Australia and where it is located? There has to be a reason for people to go there. Money is an excellent reason!

japhethGold:
What visa route bro?

Please share because I am admiring that land too.

meljoe:
Please I’m asking because of point of entry please

Goke7:
Truth is some of the stuff you see online are not reality. Folks too don't tell the entire story. Do you know the cost of housing in a place like the US especially in the big and expensive cities? I know folks who make the move to the US from the UK and then complain about the economic realities.

Apart from IT jobs and medical doctors, most other occupations using the economic of scale are not really better off in comparison to the UK.

Amarathripple0:
Touché. I think when it comes to salaries, they are generally stingy in Europe because this pay gap cuts across a lot of European countries.