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chatinent:
There's nothing good about sinful humans. They are wicked naturally.

Sinful Human? Who then created “sinful humans” naturally ?

chatinent:
Humans are good? I debunk!

Yes, I think humans are good until their immediate environment influence them. Take a new born baby for example

Woke up this morning and I thought to myself, if Allah, Yahwe etc. is almighty, did he know that eventually, his creation would need a manual ( Bible/Quran) to live right?

For me I think by default, humans are good until their immediate environment influences them.

ThinkSmarter:
Shot at sight ba?
No due process?
Violence begets violence .
Both the police and the unknown gun men will suffer violence from one another, except they both sue for peace.
Wish the police and the military will incorporate the level of morale they are using against unknown gun men on bandits ,Jihadists.

How can an intelligent person believe that there is God.
When you can't prove it within the boundaries of intelligence.
Yahweh ,Allah ,Elohim, Baal, Venus, Jupiter, Sango etc are all tribal deities .
Man imagined and depicted God/Allah after his own image and likeness.
The Bible and Quran stories are Mesopotamia myths.

Note: I used to be a Christian and used to bbelieve in God ,but reading the Bible and Quran, I got interested with the stories and I digged deeper and discovered that the so called God were nothing but tribal deities.
The Bible of full of myths ,hallucinations, histories, wise sayings, moral instructions, faith and fantasies.

Heaven and hell are all religious fictions.
No physical proof that Heaven or hell exist.

IMO, I think there’s a Universal God superior to the gods you listed above.

liztop2012:
Na God go punish them, and the lady was asking how much I needed as loan

The company that hosted was this La buena Vida something. Ended up asking people to pay a certain amount of money to join their claimed money making project

liztop2012:
Did u go?

Yes I did. It’s one of does GNLD schemes in disguise. I left immediately I started hearing bring 2 people to bring another 2 people.

SisterFire:
...then ask those things confusing you my dear ,
...because many great scienctific winged Humanoids (you called sci- god) know Jehovah as Satan , that a dutch winged Humanoid branded a terrible planet Satan and in the medieval era the Vatican city renamed it to SATURN to confuse the laymen ,
A day of yahweh is also satanday later saturn-day ,now it is Saturday to deceive the laymen

...mind you , you can be a truthseeker n you reeks of Selfishness , greed and injustice. It will make u runaway from reality like 200million worshippers of yahweh n Allah ,
Have a truth indicator today my Friend with the love for justice , without this you will remain a layman forever

One of the things I am unsure of is that a single doctrine can hold a 100% truth about the universe. For me, the Bible/Quran are books of wise sayings and truth but also with a lot of lies/deceit in disguise, in order to control the mind of homos.

Who are the “great scienctific winged Humanoids (you called sci- god)“ like you mentioned above?

What you said about SATURNDAY seems insightful, what would you say about other days of the week?

SisterFire:
...my dear the one nostrasçu aka Nostradamus said will come from heart of africa to save the world from programmes of Satan ( yahweh ) ...has already came with his history dated back as far back as 4.1billion B.C ,

...that saviour whom I talk of isn't a humanoid ,nor a reincanated Humanoid , nor angels u call anakim , but an aspect of the inventor of the universe , most great science Humanoids respect/love him and his universal stewardship , that they agreed to lock up stubborn programmers like niy Jehovah aka Satan , meç etc till 3017AD but my league will love to make it 3200AD ,

Ahasco or dazzlingd please direct him , may be his journey might start or end now !

This is even more confusing for a layman

Ahasco:
@iamuye you might want to read further of the true identity of Yahweh (Satan) by reading the book of universal history aka DoctUFOs. There you will see the whole revelation of the truth about Yahweh Satan. Thank you

Thanks you for responding. I have been reading the doctUFOs. This doctrine for me has been particularly more enlightening and revealing than the holy books (Bible/Quran), however I’m still unsure if the DoctUFOs hold the complete truth about the universe.

You mentioned that Jehova is same as Satan, how is this so? I’ll like to learn.

SisterFire:
...do you know Satan is same as yahweh ?
It shows u are a pastor , change ur name to Antichrist and join me here ,https://www.nairaland.com/6367965/little-bit-bored-guys...ask-me/31#98439015

Why do you say this? I’d like to learn.

uuzba:
Cancel from today to next year
The truth is the truth. [s][/s]
I am not quoting myself.
This is direct from the Bible

The holy book of deceit.

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uuzba:
You think it's only this earth that will end?
The universe will end also
Didn't the Bible say, that you will see stars falling from the sky?
Abi you didn't read that part?
All the planets and galaxies will jam each other and explode. NOWHERE for ANYBODY to run to.
A TOTAL END of EVERYTHING you have ever seen and known

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josh123:
just thinking outloud if it eventually becomes possible for NASA to send people to mars, what happens to them during rapture or when the world ends

It will eventually become possible and No one is ending the world

liztop2012:
Who knows this place please, TIME: 11am VENUE:
No 4 Shanu str, off Afariogu str, off Awolowo way, close to Awolowo round about, Ikeja Lagos

I just received a message with this exact address too!

Why quote me with this link ?

black9:
https://www.nairaland.com/6413635/wicc-leader-mike-anthony-celebrates#99055742

One of the most insightful comments I’ve read in a while. Allow me share this

kufre2010:
Religion is like slow poison, and just as poison is killing your body, in the same way religion is killing your soul.

There is only one difference: religion is masquerading as medicine, and while you think that it’s there for your benefit, it is secretly killing you. And before you become aware of it, religion has turned you into a lifeless being.

The negative effects of religion on society are tremendous (although often unrecognized), and in this article you’re going to read the main ways religion is destroying people’s lives.

So how exactly does religion negatively impact society? Let’s find out…

Religion is filling people with fear
Religion is one of the main reasons why people are afraid of living.

When I say ‘living’ I don’t mean just surviving. To survive is one thing–even stones do that–but to live is a completely different thing.

To live means to be sensitive, to discover your potential and achieve to higher states of being.

The problem, however, is that starting point of religion is fear.

Religion is based on the idea of sin: all people are born sinners, impure souls, and if they don’t purify themselves, they will soon be condemned to hell by God, where they will have to experience eternal suffering.

In order to avoid being thrown into hell, religion demands that people prove to God that they are worthy of heaven.

How? By following the dogma of religion.

Naturally, when they are put in such a situation, they find themselves in a continuous state of fear. They are always afraid of whether their actions are right according to religion or not.

When you believe that you are being constantly watched by an all-seeing eye of God, you have to act in certain ways to please God. The fear of hell is always in your mind, filling you with worry and anxiety, and this does not allow you to live spontaneously.

As a result, religiously indoctrinated people become neurotic and in some cases even psychotic.

Religion is turning people against themselves
The demands that religion places on people are unrealistic.

Religion, on the one hand, teaches that people are born sinners. Sin is what we are made of, and whatever we humans are doing is bound to be corrupted in one way or another.

On the other hand, however, religion is teaching people to behave in the best ways possible — in a few words, to be perfect, just like angels.

But obviously people are not angels, so how can they act in such an unnatural way?

This has many serious consequences.

When you fail to do what God has ordered, you start hating yourself. You begin to accept the idea that you are indeed a bad person, corrupted, unworthy. And once you do so, your mind becomes filled with hatred, bitterness and resentment — a true hell on earth.


Religion is turning people against each other
Others are just a projection of yourself, a mirror, on whom you can see your own reflection. That’s why once you start hating yourself, you are bound to start hating others too.

When you accept the idea that you are a sinner, you start seeing those around you as sinners. As a result, you fear that those you meet want to harm you — they are also evil, ill-willed, enemies of yours.

In addition, you will not tolerate religious ideologies that are different from the one you hold.

This is the reason why religious groups fighting against each other. Similarly, religious groups are fighting nonreligious ones.

To identify with a religious ideology and call it the only truth and way, can only lead to tremendously bad or negative effects — prejudice, bigotry, and all kinds of violence (just think of how many wars have been carried out throughout history in the name of God and religion).

Religion is keeping people in ignorance
To live means to learn, and life is an ongoing lesson.

When, however, you have grown up conditioned to believe what is right and wrong according to a religious dogma, and you’ve been taught that to doubt the religion you were born into means to go to hell, naturally you become afraid of seeking knowledge. You stop searching to find truth, and hence to educate yourself and grow as a human being.

Knowledge and wisdom are incompatible with dogmatic religious ideologies. Indeed, religion is confining people’s minds in the darkness of ignorance, and those who are in search of the light of truth are being condemned by religion.

This way, religion keeps people blinded by all sorts of beliefs that are not based on any factual or experiential evidence, which does wonders to stunt their intelligence.

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As you can see, the negative effects of religion on society are enormous.

To blindly follow a religious or any other ideology simply means to restrict your perception, suppress your thoughts and emotions, and live in hypocrisy — in other words, to live in pain and misery.

Many people choose to follow a religious dogma, even though they’re suffering from this choice, simply because religion frees them from personal responsibility.

To live spontaneously one has to take responsibility for oneself, and this can be quite burdensome.

Life is made up of choices, and to make the right choices isn’t always that easy. So people prefer not to chose for themselves but to have others choose for them. They prefer to walk on paths made by others, instead of creating and walking on their own paths.

But unless we stop having an authority tell us what to do or what not to, we will never be free to live the way we deep down want to live. And unless we are free, we will never be happy and find peace with ourselves and the world.

electhnd:
so you mean the God of Israel and juda is different from the God of today

Jehova the god of Juda wants you to believe him to be the Universal God.

electhnd:
when God killed 32 kings to pave way for Israelites to possess their lands ...... . how do u see that

The problem is, you mistake the god of Israel and Juda to the God of the universe which you and I and every other thing in the universe are part of.

electhnd:
the way of God are not our ways, his taught is higher than our taught

If this is your defense for the god you serve then is ways are evil and is thoughts are of destruction.

electhnd:
this question should be directed to God ....... because the pastor's prayer was"God judge the matter "

If I was a god who claim to be merciful and just, I would rather take the lectures job than take is life.

Which is wiser,
Taking the lectures life or taking the lectures job?

OBTMOS:
Only those with influence will be selected.

I think I agree

juniorstar:
only possible if the inhabitants would love to carry oxygen tank on their back continuously and wearing of special wears to protect from bad radiations. and they should prepare to loose bone density and on returning to earth to battle with severe forms of cardiomyopathies.

Time has proven that anything is possible. We’re not talking about taking to Mars next week. 2050 is about 29 years from now. Everything you mentioned above is important. Do you think Musk hasn’t thought about all those?

Akamariner:
Of course yea, that is the heaven the christian and muslim are dreaming of.

But they will continue dreaming, while we believers move on before them

That’s the disadvantage of religion. It keeps you stuck believing in the past and seeing it as the future. It leaves the use of your brain idle. Brain users are doing great work for humanity Religious folks are enjoying this great inventions but sitting idle, waiting on their god to end the world so they can go and enjoy their paradise.

Elon Musk plans to build a new city on Mars and send 1 million people to live there by 2050. Will you be among the 1 million if given the chance, why?

How do you relate with believers ?

I think because of this great division, the holy book has become contradicting. I have seen some people believing majorly on the preaching of the Old Testament and others strongly inspired by the teachings of the New Testament.

The Bible is arranged in very approximate chronological order. That is one of the reasons it has two major divisions called the “Old Testament” and the “New Testament.” Which I think affects how the entire Bible is read.

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