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Greatihex:
i have had this kdb and hazard debate with you in the past. I am busy now and can't do that again now.

People write about a player when he has a great season, not when he wins league.

Hazard is an attacking midfielder not a forward. He has only some matches as a forward this season in the false 9 strategy or the 352. The false 9: balls flying over his head, no support from those behind, have to still go into midfield to go and create.

352: playing as the link between midfield and attack. More of a midfielder and a forward in one match. All these while playing in a more defensive setup compared the ones in an attacking setup.

Mind you, I am not saying that hazard has been better than anyone this season. He has been too inconsistent this season coupled with the false 9 thing. That is the problem.

Why don't you already say that salah is better than Messi since he has already scored more goals. Don't get me wrong. Salah is having an incredible season. One of a kind in his entire career, but just like poch said about Pep, he has been given everything he needs to have that number goals. This is someone who has no business in every other play that at the end product. Someone with less than 28 average passes and many other less stats that are not goals and assists. The Liverpool game is about finding his run and releasing him at any time they get the chance. He is like the striker from the wings. His strength being used to the maximum.

Let me stop here. Maybe later. Very busy now.

raumdeuter:
Wait is that not the type of polling booth defender award that Terry was winning and you were hailing him

Greatihex:
please, can you tell me how all these have not been written about Hazard when he was helping Chelsea to the Premier league title?
Just say that the kdb of this season has done better than hazard of this season.

All his career, KDB has never had a better season than hazard except this season and that of 2 seasons ago.

I hope you are not going to bring your usual goals and assists stats to prove your point, because hazard goals and assists this season is going to rubbish that logic.

raumdeuter:
I think Sane should have made it somewhere

Greatihex:
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/11333600/kevin-de-bruyne-the-heartbeat-of-manchester-citys-premier-league-title-triumph

sleekdot:
Then you should list Benzema and not Lampard, Sneijder Ronaldo or Ozil. That's trying to lie

sleekdot:
Facts only None of these players you listed above had their highest scoring returns under Mourinho

Ozils highest scoring returns was 11 in 2009/10 under Thomas Schaf
Lampard highest scoring return was 27 in 2009/10 Under Ancelotti
Ronaldo highest scoring returns was 61 in 2014/15 under Ancelotti
Sneijder highest scoring returns was in Ajax where he scored 22 in 06/07 and If you are talking about a top 4 league Sneijder highest return was in Madrid 07/08 under Schuster

sleekdot:
WHile Mourinho is getting worse and attacking players getting worse under him

Ibime this is what players are doing under Fraudiola

Eruditor:
Don't lie that it was long after. The post is there for all to see. I mentioned timeline because I knew even when you choose to remove the points will affect the gap by that game 29.

Eruditor:
Yes I agreed to remove WBA and Stoke after stating more than once that I would adjust the timeline. Is that not what I am doing now?

I can adjust the timeline back to WBA game in week 25, if I remove those points from City I have to remove Swansea for United because at that point they were the 2 worst teams and both City and United will lose equal points.

Eruditor:
I am exhausted.

Eruditor:
To further buttress my point, I removed the same points from City and United even after City had secured the league but it showed them 4pts behind United. That should already tell you something was wrong.

Eruditor:
I just estimated that ceteris paribus City should maintain the same 15+ points that they are currently ahead by. That is the only way to compare if City would have won the league before or on the same time as Bayern - which was my claim.

Eruditor:
Is it not "if" we did to get a 34 game schedule?

When we remove 3pts from City for WBA should we not remove 3 too from United then because Swansea were the 2nd worst team by then?

You would see that at the times of removing points, the 2 worst teams will change which could even make United more than 16pts behind.

And all that is because you want to claim that Pep did not walk the EPL whereas he did and could have done so 6 games to spare which was not possible in Germany.

THE END.

Eruditor:
I have already cut Stoke and Westbrom and City are still at least 15points ahead of United and LFC.
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Eruditor:
But that 29th game is against United? If they draw the 29th game, they win the league, no?

Eruditor:
This therefore means City should have been 14pts ahead before playing United (because by YOUR figures they lost that game to drop it back to 11 right?). So what game on a 34-game schedule would that have been? It has to be game 29 (because you have removed 4 games from 33) so think of it: City are 14pts ahead by game 29 with 5 games to go.

raumdeuter:
My man diggz and ibime

I bring good news this morning

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Eruditor:
I have already cut Stoke and Westbrom and City are still at least 15points ahead of United and LFC..

Eruditor:
City took (6) from Tot, CFC and Ars, Newcastle whereas United and LFC only take at most 3 from each team. That is at least 12pts ahead.

United picked only 3pts from Burnley and City picked 4. Same for Leicester where City picked 6 and United 4. They will make up the same 16pts that it is today without Stoke or Westbrom.

When we consider that City also took 3 from United and LFC then we can tell that by game 29 they would have already won the league.

airmark:
Chai, instead of you to check and make neccessary deductions like an intelligent person, you base your conclusion on if, if, if like Davido

Eruditor:
How can you bring a United loss against Westbrom today to mean anything?

Remove Stoke and Westbrom.

City still beat Arsenal, Tot, CFC, Newcastle, Leicester (home and away) whereas United and Liverpool did not.

That accounts for 15pts ahead of both teams already.

Stop trying to bail Airhead out. He goofed.

City win the EPL by game 29 latest even after taking Westbrom and Stoke out to make it 34 games.

33/38 and 29/34 are NOT statistically different. So telling us City won the league when it was 87% complete to Bayern’s 85% makes no sense because in both cases you had 5 games left.

Stop defending the indefensible abeg.

Eruditor:
It cannot be applied any way.

Only LFC and United had a chance of catching City and the arrangement made it such that City were 16-18pts ahead of both.

If it were a 34 match season City win the league before playing United in game 30.

If I even shrink the league and take out Stoke and Westbrom, nothing changes because LFC and United beat both teams so whatever points you take from them still City 16-18pts ahead of United and LFC.

In any other way, City will win the league before game 29.

Even by % 85.3 and 86.8 are not dissimilar statistically. They still show that 5games were left which is funny because Bayern had to beat Dortmund (2nd placed team twice) but City did not beat LFC or United twice but won the league with the same 5 games to spare.

Eruditor:
It works and your 22 game example does not because we are comparing 38 to 34 game leagues.

City were already 16pts above United since Jan or so. Even if you want to say United beat them I can only put that game after game 29. Problem is, at 13pts City still secure the league by game 29( because 16pts is higher than 5 wins). Same time Bayern did.

BTW Stoke was game 30 or 31 and Westbrom game 25. They were still 16 ahead by then.

Eruditor:
ManU can work but they don’t because even at worst I can put them as game 30 and City would have won the league before losing to them being 16pts ahead already (in a 34-game league)

Eruditor:
Second, Airmark was trying to argue that winning the bundesliga was harder but it was not. At worst, they are equally easy.

Eruditor:
I checked the table, City had 78 when LFC had 60 by game 29. To secure the league he needed only 15pts between him and the 2nd placed team with 5 games to go. So game 28 or even 27 (had LFC lost that day) would have been probable winning times.

raumdeuter:
Bayern has been able to win 75 of 90 points which is 83% of points available
Man City has been able to win 87 out of 99 points available in the EPL thats 87% of the points

Which means Bayern was winning 2.5points per game and Man City winning over 2.6 points per game

Eruditor:
So if the EPL was a 34 game league Pep would have not won it by game 29?

Eruditor:
What is the simple mathematics behind it?

airmark:
Epl : 20 teams and more matches played Burnthisleaguedown: 18 teams and fewer matches played.

You can make informed conclusion I believe.

Eruditor:
4 years after. After spending 75M on Suarez, 80M on Neymar.

But nobody calls Enrique a Chequebook manager.