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Pedro with 3 FPL points for the assist

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Emaprince:
John terry for what na?

Make the fans hail am small in the week he announced his departure

FunkyMetahuman:
Fabreagas 103rd assist

Goes past Lampard into 2nd place all time EPL assists.

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He's back

Agbakolly:
His backpass against Swansea and arsenal nko?
Baba go sit down for one corner

His 5 premier league goals this season (4 of them point winning) and his PFA team of the year nko. My friend dive bush.

Romeu is running this game and Southampton fullbacks are getting too much freedom. Fabregas can't get to Romeu and simultaneously we are getting too many overloads on our wings.

We need to bring on Pedro to force their fullbacks backward and simultaneously force Romeu to worry about our front 3 rather than dictating the game.

This 3-5-2 no be am.

Cahiiiiiiiiiilllll!!!!

Diggz if you count Cahill's winning and equalising goals this season alone, you no go ever abuse am again.

nateevs:
Goalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

I believe you. My Skygo is few seconds behind.

Tval:
Gaol!!

I believe you. I am few seconds behind.

We are waking up

We need to stop giving them set pieces. Ward-Prowse deliveries are too dangerous.

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HotNigga:
Herrera has the better passing range more assists and goals combined so your line of logic just faltered, Most of manure's matches have dominated just unable to find the decisive strike compared to Chelsea that just scrape wins, So Once again Herrera is better than Kante just like how Hazard isn't fit to lick Messis boots.

Herrera is doing well for now, but trust me if we were looking for competition for Kante it would be Dembele first before we even consider Herrera.

Greatihex:
Are you talking about the same euros that we all watched? The one that hazard got 4 assists, 1 goal and 2 MOTM awards. How did bale even play better than hazard in the Belgium vs Wales match?

And, hazard scored 20 goals for lille just few years back.

I'm sure you watched Belgium Vs Wales

airmark:
Fact here is, that a player performed better than the others years back, put no barrier to how great those inferior ones could become years later.
That bale outperformed hazard years back never stops eden from working harder and becoming a greater player in future and move higher than him. Costa was griezmann's boss in 2013/2014. The frenchman was the best player in laliga last year, 3rd best in the world, while costa is about to go into exile. Your logic fell flat on its face, no need to drag it.

Costa was not Griezmanns boss in 2014. Costa just played for the winning team. If I ask you to name the last winger outside Barca or Madrid to score 20 goals in a season, you may be going back a decade or more to find more than one. Griezmanns feat in 2014 is historic.

How that connects with the fact that a lower placed Spurs player sonned Hazard in 2013 is the missing piece of logic. If Bales (double PFA winner) attempt to battle with the big boys is not a harbinger of things to come from Hazard then logic is lost on you. It's not like Bale wasn't seen sonning Hazard last summer at the Euros.

If you want more empirical evidence go and check the record of ex-Barca flop like Sanchez Vs Hazard. 60% more goals than Hazard since coming to England.

Even 2nd degree Barca flop like Pedro has more goals and more assists since coming to England.

All this evidence suggests Hazard is not equipped to compete with Messi, Ororo or even Neymar since their castoffs are even outproducing him.

Believe you me, Hazard is not going to go to Barca or Madrid and wow them with dribbles. If you are in their front three, they need to see goals and assists on the table.

In short, the only logic you have espoused here is that Wilfred Ndidi can hope to work harder and become a great player in future to maybe compete with Messi and Ororo, mbok.

In the things that matter in Barca or Madrid front 3 (goals and assists), he has shown little or no improvement. He is still posting roughly the same stats as when he arrived in England. He is kuku better off converting to midfield and claiming he is not about goals and assists like Iniesta. He is already talking about it.

airmark:
Will you put 100 grand to back the fact that griezmann did not play la liga at the same time costa was at atm ? I dont want story.

Isn't this āss backward logic? Griezmann as a left winger scored 20 goals for Sociedad which is the best a winger has scored outside Barca-Madrid in recent times. You are comparing to a no 9 in the league winning team as if to prove what?

How does that compare with Bale winning POTY from a 6th place Spurs team and Hazard in 3rd place Chelsea team could not even get close to competing with him?

airmark:
So because griezmann of sociedad couldnt measure up to costa of atletico madrid, few years later griezmann wouldn't be sharing podium with the messis of this world during ballon d'or 2016. I keep learning weird stuffs today.

It's too late in the night for another goof. I already let you off the monumental goof this morning of claiming Premier League Awards is more respected than PFA awards. Griezmann and Costa never played together at Atleti.

Chelseafan1:
Who were his competitors then....Older guys? Hazard had Suarez.

Bale had Van Persie, consecutive golden boot winner for 2 years and league champion, Aguero, Suarez and Hazard.

News for you, Bale won 2010/11 at the age of 21 and 2012/13 at the age of 23. And he did this in Tottenham playing with Adebayor, Soldado, Scott Parker and other wastemen.

Bale was not Hazards mate, even though there is 1 year between em. He went to try Ororo and Messi and he is nowhere near their mate, not even Neymars mate.

Show get size abeg, but it seems some of our fellow Chelsea fans are shoemakers.

Chelseafan1:
Hazard's first season as a Chelsea player?

Bale and Hazard, do they have the same style of play, to start with?

Do Messi and Ororo have the same style of play?

They are both wingers.

Before you put Hazard up against Messi and co, consider that he could not even defeat Bale in the same league.

Chelseafan1:
We asked you to mention another player aside cr7 dt won it around that age, you dey foam for mouth.

Gareth Bale won it at 23.

Chelseafan1:
He has been there for more than 2 seasons and hasn't been able to do that.

Exactly. But when Hazard see Bale, he will dobale for Bale in respect of the way Bale outshone him in 2012/13 EPL season.

Chelseafan1:
How was Suarez better than Hazard when they were both in the EPL, in what ways please? Trophies won or what exactly.

Hazard couldn't compete with Bale in EPL when they crossed paths for a season. Do you see Bale competing with Messi and co?

bykebyke:
These Hazardistas have no shame.


Hazard literally lost a PFA award to a player with 0 technical ability on the same night Messi delivered football's first 100/100 performance.


In fact,new profile picture.

Kante has decent technically ability for his position my friend. He's very good on the half-turn which you don't see in many midfielders these days.

airmark:
Messi and ronaldo never scored 40 worldies per season. What fab is saying is that hazard should be less-predictable by passing most of the time. In the gif above, if hazard had given willian the pass, you would have said that was the best choice, but he didnt and scored. If he had missed that goal probably i would have joined to blast him for not giving willian that through pass. More of that is what fab wants, because thats what ronaldo and co do. Against city at ettihad he ran and scored the 3rd goal, it's not that he doesnt run but how many of our players have fab eyes to spot it everytime he runs and who will be thereto be as creative as he is for the team? Kante gave him against bournemouth and he buried it. If he scores 6 worldies, 8 penalties and 10 shots like nihilist demanded, that's not a bad stat in epl. He doesn't need 40 worldies to join the bests. Despite haters calling ronaldo, penaldo, he is still being respected.All we want is for him to change his goal scoring mentality. Spurs were thinking he would be romancing the ball when he fired them out of fa cup. Fab's selfishness advice is not about dribbling 3 players to score alone. Ignoring others and inding a way to shoot at goal is included.

With the current state of World football, I think he needs at least 30 goals to join the best in WPOTY reckoning.

If he scores say 20 and Belgium win the World Cup or Euros, maybe.

But he will never be among the best scoring 15 or so.

There is another 15 goals for him at least with better movement if he wants to go beastmode and join the best. That gap will not be covered by dribbling and shooting more, but by the easier goals from movement that his mates are enjoying.

Griffon:
Hehehe. I need to see what Dayo looks like. Someone mentioned on this board years ago that he is one lanky bean-pole of a nigga.

He is African Peter Crouch, but now with potbelly and bald head.

airmark:
A right choice that robbed him of an assist and keep getting him bashed for not having the numbers like messi and ronaldo. Fab had the below gif in mind.

[img]https:///media/4-24-2017/nnP1v9.gif[/img]

Can he do this 40 times per season to bridge the gap to Messi et al. . . . or is the statistical shortfall in the 20-30 easy goals that Messi and co get that he doesn't.

The answer is clear as daylight. Even Messi can't score 40 goals like this every season.

Goals come in all shapes and sizes but Hazard only scores one type of goal which is the worldie. His mates are padding their worldies with tapins, headers, cutbacks, poaching, bundling the ball, near-post runs, volleys etc. And you get those other type of goals with good movement which Hazard is yet to master. Hazard can't score 40 worldies per season even if his name is Pele.

Nihilist:
I'm not discounting that at all. I'm just pointing out the difference between Hazard and Messi.

I think the second line of your post hits the nail on the head. Nobody else at Chelsea is doing the creative work, except maybe Fabregas and Willian, and neither of them is a starter. Apart from hazard, nobody else in that first 11 wants to hold the ball and create chances, they all just run a lot off the ball, and so hazard believes that he must assume that mantle. maybe if donkey Matic was good enough...

If you look at the Shooting Stats, you'll see that Neymar and Messi are shooting a lot more from outside the box(1.3 and 2.2 shots respectively) than Hazard is(0.7 shots), so it's not really positional runs that are improving the volume of their shots. Those dudes just like to shoot a lot, whereas Hazard likes to pass.

I'm not sure about that. Most of these type of goals are from cutbacks, rather than throughballs from midfield. Yesterday it was Jordi Alba I believe cutting the ball back to Messi.

Griezmann does the same at Atletico and you can't really point to any major star feeding him.

Lampard did the same for years with Malouda and Kalou etc. These kind of goals are usually team goals from overlaps and overloads, you make the right run and BAM!

airmark:
Below is one of the reasons fab advised hazard. Also the reason hazard's assists is not up there. Experts know all these, not rushing to whoscored to check number of assists and wield the big stick.

[img]https:///media/4-24-2017/HAQIme.gif[/img]

That is the right choice. Obviously you see 3 men in his path to goal. There is no reason to take the shot there. Maybe only Ororo or Robben would attempt the shot.

Statistically where Hazard is falling short is the runs into the box for the easy goals, not because he didn't attempt to dribble 3 men and shoot in this kind of situation. That plays a part, but only a minor part. It cannot give him more than 5 more goals per season if he starts dribbling and shoot in situations like these. What he needs to bridge the 30 goal gap between him and the top-dogs is more tapins and penalty box finishes.

You can't tell me Hazard is on 11 or 12 goals and Messi is on nearly 50, and Hazard needs to score 30 dribble-and-score goals to bridge the gap. That's impossible for even Messi. What he needs is the tapins, and the easy finishes.

Nihilist:
Messi had to dribble 2 guys to take the shot though. It's not like he ran into open space.

I'm talking about his 2nd goal. That was a first-time finish, just by making the right run to create space.

If that was Hazard, instead of making the right run in the box, he might have made a run to go and join Andre Gomes to help build up play instead.

Nihilist:
Messi's first goal yeterday, you know that Hazard would have try to square the ball to Costa or someone else.

That guy needs more slaps to make him more ruthless in front of goal.

Most times Hazard will not make that run in the first place.

He needs to learn those runs from Raumdeuter, and by that I mean Thomas Muller, not Apari.

airmark:
I stated it weeks back that hazard needed to be running into scoring positions and i could see he is working on that. Now to the emboldened, will you rate pedro over hazard if he outscores hazard this season? There must be a reason you wont dare it. Hazard in a madrid shirt would improve with his numbers, with more quality players behind him, thats a fact.

No, I'm not rating him over Hazard. I'm just showing you how the right off-the-ball movements can help Hazard score more.