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The Wailing Continues. . . .

raumdeuter:
An argument can be made that Messi had a better world cup 2014 where he was voted best player at the world cup than Mascherano that was why he was 2nd in Balon dor from the aggregation of his Barcelona and WOrld cup performances

How was Beckham able to win the FIFA 2nd when didnt win Man Utd player of the year, PFA player of the year and there was no International tournament.

You havent told us how Beckham was Man Utd best in 1999 when he wasnt best in Man Utd nor best in the league

It either rubbishes your Beckham best player claim or rubbishes the validity of those awards you like you put up every time without on the field performances to support it

All the players who did well can win the awards.

Likewise we could say Yorke didn't deserve PFA POTY as he could not win his clubs award.

Boateng did not even finish top 3 in Bayern POTY voting yet somehow won Kicker Bundesliga POTY. Explain that!

All you need to know is that Beckham was shortlisted for all 3 awards.

He came 2nd in both Balon Dor and FIFA WPOTY so both organisations know better.

raumdeuter:
How was beckham the best player in Man Utd

Keae won the Man Utd player of the year

Yorke won the PFA player of the season award

And thank God you sef say no International tournament in 1999.

So where did Beckham get the performance that made him 2nd FIFA

Where was beckham in all of these or he wasnt qualified, People that followed Man utd in 1999 knew Beckham wasnt deserving of that FIFA 2d

Lampard was Chelsea POTY in 2005, but Terry was PFA POTY meanwhile Lampard was 2nd in Balon D'or.

Mascherano was Barca POTY in 2014, but Messi was 2nd in Balon D'or.

That's just how it goes sometimes.

chic2pimp:
Leave long yarns for Wasiu Ayinde Marshall. He was instrumental in united winning that finals. A feat Fifa clearly acknowledged hence why He was voted second. He was a beast during United's treble winning campaign.

I wonder why Beckham wont be honoured in 1999 when he was the best player in a team that won UCL and thrre was no major International Tournament that year except maybe Copa America. Rivaldo won that year based on Copa America.

raumdeuter:
Terry was PFA player of the year in 2005 something he has not repeated since So when was Terry's peak?

And in the same 2005, Terry was voted European Defender of the Year. Go Figure!

Anyway back to Trendlonas original goof, there is no metric where Pique has more individual awards than Terry even if we exclude European Defender of the Year awards. Terry is comfortably ahead of Pique.

raumdeuter:
Pique joined Barcelona at 21yrs the EUropean defender of the year award stopped when Pique was 23. Its only a dishonest person that will say a defenders peak was when he was between 21 and 24.

Pique was LaLiga defender of the year in 2010, something he has not repeated since. That was his peak.

raumdeuter:
How old was Pique when they had the last award? 23yrs what has Terry achieved in his career at 23?

Lol How desperate can people get? Pique was at his peak in 2009 at the age of 22? Just when he just returned from Man Utd? If this isnt desperation I dont know what we can call it. So DId Terry also peak in 2002 when he was 22yrs old?

Pique from 2008 to 2011 had his best years.

His boss Carles Puyol won only one European Defender of the Year award, is it his boy Pique that we should reckon with?

raumdeuter:
This is an example of what we are talking about. Explain how will Pique get voted for an award that no longer exist?

Has Pique ever been the top picked defender in UEFA team of the year?

2008 to 2010, why was Pique not picked? That was his golden era. Infact Terry won it in 2009 when Pique was at his peak. Even Piques boss Carles Puyol only one won of those, and someone is telling us Pique has more individual awards.

How can someone say Pique has more individual awards than Terry and get away scot-free. Has Pique made 5 FIFPRO 11s?

He must be a young boy living in his Barcelona bubble. He probably can't remember the 2000s when Terry was winning awards.

TRendlona:
But Pique has more individual (not team) honours nahh

No he doesn't! Nowhere close.

He's never even been voted European Defender of the year once, something John Terry won 3 times.

Emaprince:
Definitely not Baba Rahman!

I've always suggested Kennedy because he has great pace, strength and can dribble very well too.

But one thing i've noticed and likes about Alonso is his tendency to run into the opponents box and find himself in space to score. He had one decent attempt saved by Middlesbrough keeper last week. He missed another good chance yesterday.

I don't know how he doeas it... but with his snail's pace, I keep wondering how he keeps up when we are attacking and tries to track back too when we defend.

Alonso is very good attacking. He's got some intelligence and a good cross.

diggz:
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My one and only Queen just gave me a little Princess......

Congrats bro, wey the picture?

Two of the biggest thieves in Nigeria. . . Fortunato and Anini

raumdeuter:
All those were before Boatank made his debut. ever since Boateng made his German debut, he has helped the team to 4 straight semi, Thats what I call performance on the field not perforrmance in polling booth and ballot paper

Ever since terry made his England debut where did they make a major semi final

Germany has been making semifinals and finals with or without Boateng and long before Boateng came on board eg in 2002, 2006 and 2008.

Which means Boateng is just a carryalong.

raumdeuter:
2010 German defence : Lahm-Mertesacker-Friedrich--Boateng
2012 german defence : Boateng-Hummels--Badstuber--Lahm
2014 German defence : Lahm--Hummels--Boatank--Howedes
2016 German defence : Kimmich-Hummels-Boateng-Hector

All made the semi finals and the only thing constant in that defence is Boatank from Left back to right back to Central defence

2006 WC semifinal

2008 Euros final

Was Boateng there?

God is watching you.

macjireh:
I want to solemnly beg conte to use a 4man defence against city,,, totham almost exploited our 3defenders till iva was brought in, they would have scored if they were clinical enough.... my heart virtually left its position, thank God we won,, but if we try 3defenders against city,, they will rape us... pls conte do d needful abeg

How many shots did they have on target?

I don't remember any poor finishing.

Abeg leave 2 man defence. I dont want Garri Cahill and Luiz to go back to the Cahill and Luiz of 2 months ago. They are doing well, leave am as it be.

Emaprince:
My man, how is Alonso performing today?

I've always had this fears that he'll be easily run over when we meet a strong team with fast wingers and from some comments i've seen elsewhere, people are complaining.

He did alright. Walker troubled him in first 25 minutes but once we got in game, he was solid.

Spuds first EPL loss of the season. . . . thanks to us. . . we may have knocked em out the title race already. . .

raumdeuter:
Ask them who are these Spain and Barca golden era?

The only constant players in the success from 2009 till date are Puyol, Busquets and Iniesta yet they tell us Pique and Busquets are not good enough is it the ghosts thats doing the playing

Spain have been crap since 2012 . . . . to show you it is the oldies that were doing the playing (Xavi, Alonso, Puyol)

Conte should never take off Moses for Ivanovic again

Victor Moses is now Victor Jesus. . . . next level shyt!

Gobe! Alonso done miss open goal

Victor Jeeeeeeeeeesuuuuuuuuus!!!!

Peeeeeeeeeedrrrrooooooooo!!!!

Another super pass from Matic!

diggz:
Ibime how ur little girl?

Meanwhile, I know you are in support of willian sale however, what is your opinion on willian pairing matic or kante or acting as a back up to moses?

What is there to discuss? Every squad needs a Willian for tactical flexibility . . . great examples of Willian-type players in the past are Ji Sung Park, Ray Parlour, Luis Enrique, James Milner, Massimo Ambrosini etc.

You keep those sort of players so long as their value stays under £20m. Once their value is around £40m, you'd be foolish not to sell.

Jose should bring £40m for Willian jare.

Roland17:
Bayern boss Karl-Heinz Rummenigge on Jerome Boateng after FC Rostov

"Es fällt auf, dass Jérôme wieder ein bisschen mehr zur Ruhe kommen muss. Seit letztem Sommer ist mir das ein bisschen zu viel. Es wäre im Sinne von ihm und des ganzen Klubs, wenn er wieder 'back to earth' kommt. "

ENGLISH TRANSLATION

"Jerome needs to find a bit more quiet again," , It's a bit too much for me since the summer. It would be in his interest and the whole club's if he came a little down back to earth."

Thats why they sent a nigga from the moon to disgrace him. Azmoun!

airmark:
Young john azmoun, the wicked producer.

Azmoun sent Boatengs azz to the moon!!!

Even BBC are begging him to come back to earth

Alago Jerome Boathand practicing the scissors move. . . . .

Airmark please ready the gif of Boateng being disgraced by Rostov. Na wetin we go use flog Dayo anytime he mention that Ghanaman name

A40:
Liverpool flogged Madrid 5-zip. Knocked out Barca on away goals 06/07 season

That's the one!

raumdeuter:
Arsenal only beat Madrid 1-0 over 2 legs in 2006. In a match where Arsenal were the huge underdog and managed to get a goal on the counter.

Its like Atletico beating Barca with a counter attack goal and declaring the NT should be playing like Atletico. Forgetting that at the International stage, France is the top dog expected to attack, You want to counter Republic of Ireland or Israel who are already wit 10men in their box?

I swear I could remember Arsenal flogging Madrid soething silly, but then I might have been thinking of Liverpool flogging Barca 3 or 4 nil back then.

Raumdeuter, mind you Arsenal used to flog Madrid 3-0 in those days so Henry and co were not wrong to feel their fast counterattack style was more beneficial than Zidane style