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pkasso:
Pep is a rich man's Marcelo Bielsa. It's not surprising he has copied most of his ideas on pressing and attacking football. If El Loco had the same quality of players, he would also win loads of trophies.

FRAUDIOLA!

Lana1:
The most expensive defence ever assembled.
1 clean sheet in 17 games..

FRAUDIOLA!

raumdeuter:
Only a simple minded foool will say Rijkaard and Peps Barcelona were the same.

1. Pep's Barcelona played a much higher defence line than the Rijkaard barcelona FALSE
2. Peps Barcelona dominated possesion significantly more than Rijkaards Barcelona FALSE
3. Pep introduced the false 9 into attack while Rijkaard Barcelona always used a regular 9 TRUE
4. Pep introduced the high intesity offensive press and emphasized ball recovery in 5 seconds something Rijkaard didnt do PARTLY TRUE - BARCA HAVE ALWAYS PLAYED HIGH PRESS, GUARDIOLA ONLY MADE IT A DEMAND
5. Pep emphasized keepers playing from the back and ball playing defence to play from the back FALSE
6. Pep pushed his full back higher Dani Alves became a winger in a 3-4 pattern while Rijkaard never departed from his 4-3-3 and variation of it FALSE

Most of these are FALSE not FACTS.

Barca has always played out from the back, Barca has always dominated possession (eg Man Utd had only 27% possession in 2008 UCL semi 1st leg), Barca has always had flying fullback (Belletti, Zambrotta) only that Alves does it better

The way to spot a cõcksucking disciple is his attempt to overemphasize minor tweaks to an already established system in order to give Pep all the glory.

Shall we say Luis Enriques Barcelona is not Peps Barcelona just because he ditched the false 9, and plays Iniesta deeper?

Such is the desperation of these cõcksuckers to give Pep glory, they would accentuate any difference and call it genius. His so called genius look like Papa Ajasco defensive comedy show in EPL.

raumdeuter:
No one talks much about Rijkaards Barcelona. Everyone still talks about Peps Barcelona, SPain adopted his play style and won a world cup and EUro on top of it

You must be very stewpid to buy that trash. I expect born yesterday "Up Barka" fans to buy this trash, not you. I see you have been brainwashed into the discipleship of Pep cõcksucking.

Had Fraudiola ever managed a game of competitive football when Luiz Aragones won Euro 2008 with the same style?


Pep just rode the wave of the style and players in place. Peps Barcelona is Rijkaards Barcelona just like Enriques Barcelona is Peps Barcelona.

All that happened was Pep refocused them after 2 years of decadence just like Enrique refocused Barcelona after 2 years laziness of Jourdi Roura and Tata Martino.

Pep did nothing special that a serious manager would not do. Rijkaard was a poor disciplinarian and poor motivator, that's all. That team were already the best team in the World and were European Champions.

Pep has not done anything in football except ride the wave. Now he doesnt have extraterrestrial players for the first time in his career, he is fumbling like Papa Ajasco.

Not to mention he is wasting money on the same monumental scale. The difference here is there is no homegrown quality base of players to save him from his failed transfers. John Stones is the new Chygrinski and Leroy Sane is the new Alex Hleb while Claudio Bravo is taking the transfer comedy to new heights. I wonder when he will sign the new Ibrahimovic.

The only innovation I've heard that Pep brought to Rijkaards team was the 5 second rule to win the ball back in a high press. Barca and Spain were already playing tikitaka in its current format back when Pep had not even dreamed of being a manager. All the other ideas he brought to football are absolute rubbish and liable to get his teams hammered 5-0 everytime he implements those brainfarts (eg going 3 at the back to match Barca front 3 in 2014 UCL semifinal).If not for riding the tikitaka wave and having a once-in-a-generation forward like Messi to win trophies for him, Pep would be a nobody, begging Compostela or Go-Ahead-Eagles for job right now.

raumdeuter:
Taking a team from nowhere and making them the flagship team of the generation. No one will talk about football of the past 30yrs without talking about Pep's Barcelona

The flagship team of the generation started in 2004/2005, not this snake oil you are trying to sell us like Pep started that generation.

All Pep did was refocus Barcelona after falling into 2 years of decadence in 2008, just like Luis Enrique rejigged Barca in 2014 after 2 years of decadence.

Not to mention Luis Aragones was already dominating International football in 2008 with those Barca midfield before Pep even signed his contract. Did Luis Aragones learn tikitaka from Pep who was not even a manager then?

Barcelona was already the best team in Europe in 04/05 and everyteam they came across knew it. The same set were UCL Champions in 2006 and tikitaka was already dominating the world from Barca to Spanish National Team.

All Pep did was ride the wave just like Luis Enrique is riding the wave now. He went to Bayern to ride wave that Jupp Heynckes created, only to get disgraced in Europe annually.

He came to City with the best players in England and money to spend, he thought it would be a walk in the park. After spending £180m poorly, the fraud is being exposed as the con artist whose incompetence has been covered by great players and one-team leagues all this while.

When he actually is able to win with inferior players like Mourinho has done for most of his career, alert us. Until then, he is not to be mentioned with real managers.

raumdeuter:
Between 2002 and 2015 Mourinho got fired twice.

He took CHelsea spent half a billion and failed to make a CL final immediately after Avram Grant made the final, He took the biggest team in Europe Madrid failed to make the final, immediately Ancelotti came and made the final

he came to Chelsea again almost relegated them and Conte took over and steamrolling the league with the same players

He went to Man Utd again bought the most expensive player ever and is now battling the likes of Watford and West Brom

Between 2002 and 2015, Mourinho won the UCL Twice and Europa league with severe underdogs.

He cracked and uprooted the best team ever seen in English football, the Arsenal invincibles, and he won Reals only league title in the last 8 years from the hands of Messi and co.

What has Guardiola done out of the ordinary except take the best teams and achieve the expected whilst taking Bayern backward and disgracing their name all over Europe? Guardiola is only now taking the step Mourinho took in 2002, which is to try to win with a normal competitive team. . . .and he is failing woefully.

He is yet to beat a better team than his, 8.5 years into his career, something his mates do several times a season. FRAUDIOLA!

raumdeuter:
One of the symptoms of obesity is selective memory
You forgot to tell us that Mourinho has also been fired by the bigger clubs he has coached. Sacked at madrid, sacked at Chelsea and now in Man Utd after blowing money buying the most expensive player he is now tied on points with Watford and dragging places with West Brom teams on 1/10th of his budget

Guardiola caught Mourinho their aggregates stands at 9-4 currently. Mourinho is now having to write affidavits to get jobs only God knows when he will see the CL again

What Mourinho did from 2002 to 2015 before he lost it, Pep hasn't started.

When he wins UCL with anyone not named Messi or Xavi, alert us.

Everything Pep has done so far in his career is what likes of failures like Rijkaard, Luiz Enrique and Jordi Roura can do.

Alert us when he actually achieves anything remarkable. Until then we will sit back and enjoy likes of Pochettino bully him all season.

raumdeuter:
The only 2 managers worth talking about in elite terms in the EPL are Mourinho and Guardiola

As at today Mourinho and Pep have 2 CL titles each. Guardiola have the superior head to head, The times they have faced in the same league. Pep has topped his team most of the time
Added to the fact that Mourinho has been fired from his last 2 jobs and currently wandering midtable around Watford and co


So there is nothing suggesting Mourinho is better than Pep

Mourinho has been in battles with inferior teams and won the lot. When that fraud can win UCL with anyone not named Messi or Xavi, get back to us.

Give Fraudiola Messi, Xavi and co and they will start hailing him a genius. Give him Fernandinho and Aguero, and you will see Pochettino flogging him.

Pep is a genius like Scolari was a genius in 2002. They hail him when Ronaldo and Rivaldo are winning titles for him. . . . but when it's Luiz Gustavo and Fred, they will spell his name with 7 goals.

raumdeuter:
You think the odds setters who gave Manure a better odds were drunk? No they werent obese like you and they knew Man Utd had the better team

You are very foolish quoting marginal odds. The odds makers look at the face of the opposition manager before setting odds, because they know SAF is wily enough to win with inferior players, and they factor in what he did against Rijkaard despite being dominated by better players.

Below are odds showing Atletico favourites to beat Madrid, not because they have better players but because they trust Simeone to know what to do.

https://tribuna.com/realmadrid/en/news/1191271/

Yet this eediot is quoting marginal odds to prove Manure had better players and can't name a midfielder or striker that would make Barca team except Ronaldo.

Bookies would soon start offering odds on MAN CITY name being spelt by somebody in UCL this season. . . .not because the players are crap. . . but because their manager is Fraudiola, a fraud known for getting his team name spelt by marginally superior opposition.

pkasso:
Pep is a great coach. There is probably no better tactician in today's game but he is not as good as most people think he is. He has been privileged to handle two of the biggest teams in the world. Teams with proven history and a winning culture. Much of his success is down to having world-class personnel at his disposal and not some tactical ingenuity. I personally don't think the EPL has a lot to do with his struggles. Pep would dominate the league with either of his Barca or Bayern sides. City are clearly not on the same level as those two. It will be difficult to see him replicate that level of success with "lesser quality players" at City.

City are at least level on quality with all their rivals in EPL. Now we are seeing the coaches input rather than the superstar players, and Fraudiola is getting exposed for the fraud he is.

raumdeuter:
See the tool naming the Abidal that was ineligible for the final? Why dont you name Roy Keane too fatty bombom

Were Xavi and Iniesta not there when Man Utd beat Barca just 12 months earlier

The same Barca who beat Man Utd in 2008 suddenly faced a team coached by Pep with his tactics and even without key defenders and won flawlessly in the final while Man utd had the best player in the world in their team

Odds show Man utd was favoured to win the 2009 final, but this morbidly obese ninja whose BMI is off the chart thiks Man Utd was not on the level of Barca

My friend shutup. SAF beating Barca in 2008 with just 30% possession is a case of a manager beating a superior team, something Fraudiola has never done in his life.

Manure did not have a better team in 2009 just because they parked the bus and sneaked victory in 2008, anymore than Chelsea had a better team in 2013 just because Di Matteo managed to engineer victory against Fraudiola with 20% possession.

That is called coaches input - the ability to make the difference even when your team have inferior players. It is something Fraudiola knows nothing about, and has never done in his life.

If you want your team to get disgraced against marginally better opposition, hand them over to Fraudiola, he will ensure they spell your teams name just like Madrid and Barca were spelling B-A-Y-E-R-N.

I can't wait for UCL knockout stages. There are 7 letters in M-A-N C-I-T-Y. I trust Fraudiola to make it happen.

raumdeuter:
You are the fattest foool this forum has ever seen

Barca team is better than Manure yet the odds favoured Man Utd before the finals. You are too obese you you are fatter than the intelligence threshold, that was why I told you to lose weight

As a DM Yaya Toure is a poor DM. Carrick is mile better

Even in your obese state you were able to tell us VDS, Vidic, Evra, Rio, Ronaldo would make a Meshup team, By the time you add Carrick to it

That means out of 11, Manure would have 6. Yet in your obese sef thinks Yaya who was benched by a rookie Busquets and later sent out would bench Carrick

You should be sentenced to a fruit and water diet for 2 months

You are a big fool.

See your mesh up team. All are defenders with minimal difference to the Barca counterparts. What is the difference between Abidal and Evra? Rio, Vidic and Puyol? Those are all preference choices that could go either way.

Look at the Barca players in meshup. Xavi and Iniesta shit on all Utd midfield.

Eto shits on Rooney, Tevez or whoever.

Messi beats Ronaldo but I don't wanna get into that.

And Yaya Toure shyts on Carrick who can't even compete with Scott Parker and Gareth Barry for England.

You are a desperate foolish eediot. The one match that you can point to as Pep beating a superior team, the team is phucking inferior!

When Simeone, Mourinho, Klopp, SAF, Benitez, even Di Matteo are taking vastly inferior teams to beat Madrid and Barca, do they have two heads?

Ask Fraudiola to beat a marginally better team, they will start spelling his name. . . while his disciple cõcksucker on NL try to convince you he did the same against Manure in 2009. . . because Carrick is better than Toure

raumdeuter:
Shut up you obese fatty.

2009 Man utd was equal to Pep Barcelona and y the final after Barca got key players suspended, Man Utd was the better team



These are the odds 3 days before the final.

Shutup you cvnt!

Yet the only reason you can find for Manure being a better team is Carrick being better than Yaya Toure.

Barca of 2009 were way better than Manure. You cannot name more than 4 Utd players in a combined 11, and no midfielders or strikers except Ronaldo.

raumdeuter:
Man Utd in 2009 was comparable to Barcelona. Man utd had beaten barca a yr earlier, By 2009 Man utd had the world best player in their ranks, they had Vidic, VDS, Rooney

Guardiola took a Barcelona from being trophyless and finished 18points behind league winners to winning a sextuple without major expenses

My friend shut up already!

In 2012 Jupp Heynckes took Bayern team to beat Madrid in UCL semifinal. In 2013, he disgraced Barcelona by 7 goals in the same UCL semifinal.

Guardiola took over the same Bayern team and met the same Madrid and Barcelona in the next 2 semis, and they were almost spelling his name.

You are busy telling me nonsense about Barcelona who Rijkaard one of the worst coaches in football history led to glory, who even win league being coached by a dead man in NewYork hospital, and who the average Luis Enrique is using to shine.

Pep has always been a fraud, someone who turned Jupp Heynckes winning machine into a laughing stock.

Everything we said about Fraudiola is being manifested live and in living colour in a competitive league at last.

And you still cannot show me where he has beaten a better team. Rather he is someone who relies on having the best players in the world otherwise he gets disgraced even by teams only marginally better than his. Where is the coaching input of the fraud if all he relies upon is having better players than the other coach?

raumdeuter:
And who played DM in the game?

So if Messi is asked to play rightwing while Suarez play striker, does that make Suarez a better striker?

Rafinha played right back while Lahm played CM = Rafinha a better RB?

Fool! We asked you 3 hours ago to name a single instance Fraudiola beat a better team, you are here telling us unconnected story about Hargreaves playing wings and Carrick playing DM.

raumdeuter:
Just some minutes ago. This obese mumu was telling us Carrick only played because Hargreaves was injured, Yet in 2008 just a yr prior, inthe biggest game of the season carrick played as a DM with Hargreaves fully fit

WHen would you check your weight and show us your BMI is within the rational thinking limit

Did Hargreaves also not play? Mumu!

raumdeuter:
This is why I told you the fat is your major problem

In 2008 inal, Carrick played the DM role and Hargreaves had to fins another role to go play

today obese Ibime is now telling us Carrick played because Hargreaves was injured. Was Hargreaves injured in the 2008 final too?

Mumu you see how the fat is blocking all the thinking cells in you

Mumu how does that make Carrick better than Toure?

Hargreaves was a better DM than Carrick, regardless of whether Fergie saw him versatile enough to play other positions when he was not injured.

You tried sneaking in 35 year old Scholes and 36 year old Giggs into Barca 11, it didn't work. Now you are getting desperate to include Carrick. Carrick!!!

raumdeuter:
2007/2008 City finished 9th 55points in 38 games Currently this season 4th 30 points from 15 games

2008/09 CIty finished 10th 50 points after 38 games Currently this season 4th 30 points from 15 games

I'm not querying FBS initial statement. I'm querying your arithmetic.

How many years ago was 2006/2007 season?

raumdeuter:
Was it not the same Barca that was beaten by Manure just a year before? SO what has changed from 2008 to 2009? Ronaldo was even WPOTY

Carrick of 2009 was definitely better than Yaya as a DM, But your obesity wont let you know that

So Pep beat Man Utd in 2009, Man Utd was infeior, He beat Madrid in 2011, Madrid was inferior even with Ronaldo Ozil Ramos Casillas

Once again Fatbime show us your BMI

Carrick was better than Toure?

Carrick only made the team because Hargeaves was injured. He's not even the best DM in his club

Desperate lobatan.

Manure cannot boast more than 4 players in a combined Barca11 in 2009, and 3 of them in defensive positions.

When has Pep ever beat a team with better players?

Ferguson in 2008 semifinal beat a better Barca team (by parking a double decker bus). When has Pep ever done that?

raumdeuter:
Oga FBS are you sure about this?

2006/07 City finished 14th with 42 points after 38 games, 2016/17 they are 4th with 30points in 14 games

2006/2007 was 11 years ago.

raumdeuter:
Man Utd won the CL in 2008 beating Barcelona en route, But suddenly 12 months later Man Utd with reigning WPOTY are suddenly weaker than Barcelona because Pep is now coaching Barca.

There must be a connection between obesity and loss of memory

Sylvinho played for that same Barca at 35yrs old, henry was 32 yrs old

You are getting desperate oponu.

A combined Manure-Barca team in 2009 would be undoubtedly:

Eto Striker, Messi RFW, Ronaldo LFW

Toure DM, Xavi CM, Iniesta AM

Alves RB, any 2 of Puyol, Ferdy or Vidic at CB and either Abidal or Evra at LB.

VDS GK

Those teams were not close in talent

So I will ask you again oponu

Show me a time when Fraudiola beat a better team.

He had 3 years to do it in Bayern and kept getting disgraced even though he had the 3rd best team in the world.

This is his first time coaching in a competitive league (though he still has the best team, the difference is not as great). And he is getting disgraced again.

raumdeuter:
You see what obesity is doing to you

2009 Fergie had the reigning world footballer of the year Ronaldo yet he was brushed by Pep.

Were those Messi and Xavi crippled when Fergie was brushing Barcelona a season earlier in the 2008 semi

Fat has taken over most of your brain, I wouldnt be surprised if you cant even remember anything in 2009

Pep with Yaya toure as defender beat Ferguson with Vidic, Rio, VDS Scholes Giggs and reigning best player in the world Ronaldo

Ibime show us your BMI

This question must have been haunting you.

You have been thinking about it for weeks, and decided to cook up the story that Manure had better players in 2009 even citing a 36 year old Ryan Giggs and 35 year old Paul Scholes

It will not work. Try again.

Show us a time when Pep beat a team with better players, oponu.

raumdeuter:
Ferguson had Ronaldo, Vidic, Scholes, Rio, Evra, VDS, Giggs

The same team who ruled EUrope 12 months earlier

Mourinho again had Ronaldo Alnso, Ramos Casillas, Ozil

So how are these teams not comparable in quality to Peps

You told us Pep is a checkbook manager now tell us those he bought to win the sextuple

Once again have you checked your BMI

My friend sharrap. Pep had by far better players than those players you mentioned. I'm sure you have heard of Messi and Xavi, the best players in their positions in a generation by far, not to mention Eto, Henry, Dani Alves, Puyol, Iniesta, Abidal, Yaya Toure, David Villa etc.

I will ask you again, yet you keep stuttering like someone with a twisted tongue:

Show me a time when Pep beat a team better than his.

raumdeuter:
how much did Pep spend to win sextuple, Mourinho spent half a billion in CHelsea and couldnt make a CL final, Same in Madrid, Now he has broken world record for Pogba and dragging with Watford and West Brom
You mean Pep won 2 CL titles without keeping a respectable scoreline ?

He beat Ferguson twice in the final, beat Mourinho in a semi and Chelsea in another semi I guess those scoreline werent respectable he probably won by toss of coin

Have you checked your BMI today?

Did SAF and Mourinho have a better team than Pep?

Mourinho won 2 UCL titles with minnows.

Tell me about a time Pep has ever beat a team with players better than his.

coded01:
A coach in England for the 1st time is 4points below the leaders... It's just his 15th game... Why the noise?

I thought England is a walk in the park?

By tomorrow, he will be 7 points behind the leaders.

He should keep it up. I'm fairly confident he won't even qualify for UCL if he keeps up his stewpidity. Spurs will soon overtake him in 4th position.

raumdeuter:
Checkbook manager lol when Mourinho ruined 500M on CHelsea and failed to make a CL final, Got one of the most expensivel assembled Madrid failed again

Now he broke the world record for Pogba yet is dragging 7th spot with Watford

even checkbook no dey work for Mourinho again

Mourinho is a self confessed chequebook manager, yet he can still take inferior teams like Porto and Inter to titles.

Tell me about a time the chequebook manager Pep ever beat a team better than his.

Infact tell me about a time he kept a respectable scoreline against a better team, without being disgraced.

I'm waiting. . .

raumdeuter:
Fat ibime. How is that Pep fart you and your Lord Mourinho been sniffing all season?

4-0. Oga Titus!

Has Pep ever coached a team to beat another team with better players?

No wonder he is begging City to sign Messi to come and save him, even after spending £180m.

Chequebook manager!

FRAUDIOLA!!!

raumdeuter:
As long as he is sitting on top of Mourinho and finish the league higher than Mourinho then he is good

Oga Titus, sharrap!

Nihilist:
Una dey get BT Sports for Naija?

E go be Android box

Raumdeuter made a brief appearance on this thread just now, then disappeared quicker than the fart of a leprous witch

donjazet:
Stones looked quite promising, to be honest. It's now we're just seeing his so many flaws

No be now. Even when we were chasing Stones, he had made the most defensive mistakes according to official OPTA stats in the previous season.

This is the reason Barca and Real used to flog Bayern by 5 and 7 goals.

If you have better players than Fraudiola, you will surely beat him.

He has no coaching input to take lesser players to beat a better team. . . . he can only win when he has better players than everyone else.


Fraudiola!