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Jonathans rigging machine trying to get the Supreme Court Judge out of the way cos he annulled the rigged elections in Ekiti and such.

I salute Salami for his steadfastness.

Barcelona's director of football Raul Sanllehi has revealed he was shocked by the £50m Chelsea paid Liverpool for Spanish striker Fernando Torres. "Barcelona would not make that signing," said Sanllehi. "We would not even consider it."

Even guys who spent £70m on Ibrahimovic done warn una.

Meanwhile, Manure said to be preparing £18m move for Mascherano.

I know some people (Nateevs and Ako) hate Mascherano, but as far as Im concerned, Masch is a perfect holding midfielder that gives platform for other midfielders to push forward without worrying about whats behind them, UNLIKE MIKEL!

Akolawole:
Pray that Benayoun come back quick. He is a better player

Please give me the number for your weed man. 

Akolawole:
Even with the craziness of the market, he is a 35 million player.

Cesc is the best player in the Prem.

dayokanu:
If Cesc is worth 70m

Iniesta should be 100, Schweinsteiger 95, Robben 120, Xavi 150 and Messi 500m

Holler back when Robben can complete 30 games without injury

Any season Schweini and Iniesta can cop 10 goals and 10 assists (half of Cesc's output), then I will consider them @ £50m (Schweini @ £30m on his best day). I pay a premium for OUTPUT!

4 years ago, my young Arsenal loving cousin out of ignorance told me that Cesc is better than Iniesta and I had to convince him otherwise. . . . but ask me now, and I will tell you the only thing Iniesta can do better than Cesc is dribbling.

"Iniesta cannot replace Xavi, only Cesc can replace Xavi" - Pep Guardiola

I will easily pay £60m for Cesc on a normal day.

But if Torres is worth £50m, then I will pay £70m for Cesc in such a market.

@ FBS,

When DD is good, he's very good. When DD is bad, hes very bad!

You think Stephen Ireland is not a good player? Technically he's excellent! His problem at Villa was Houllier trying to shoehorn him into a two man midfield. He will shine again.

Wrong thread

Don't discount it. . .afterall Chinaydu is Ruggedmans attack dog.

debosky:
Sheer bollocks - whether a chance comes from a goalkeeping or defensive error, or from lightning striking down on Mikel's forehead, it led to a goal, and that makes it a legitimate chance.

Erm. . . stay focussed. . . even if the chance was caused by a dog running onto the pitch, it is a chance. . . BUT IT IS NO EVIDENCE THAT THE OPPOSITION MIDFIELD DOMINATED. . . .

debosky:
This is a moronic comparison - comparing a chance blocked off to a chance missed only by inches due to poor finishing?

Even if the Torres chance doesn’t count as a chance (a clear goal if Jamie Carragher did not throw his body in the way), then only a recidivist would take 1 chance created to nil as evidence of domination. In statistics, we call that negligible data set.

debosky:
Why must I mention saves by Cech? One goal was scored, another could've been scored if Maxi had the sense to hit the ball into an open net instead of shinning it onto the cross bar.

If we neglect everything else that happened in that game, it's safe to say Chelski didn't have a single chance of the quality of those two I've mentioned. Creating two quality chances from midfield (one a goal, the other only ruined by the miss of the season) compared to NONE for Chelski is overwhelming, necessary and sufficient evidence of Liverpool's midfield dominance.

Cech's saves or lack of saves is a non-issue.

It seems your wife sprinkled some buds in your porridge this morning.

Meireless goal was a harmless straightforward cross for Cech. Stop acting like it was a chance created. Cech withdrew his hands cos he didn’t want no more beef with Branislav, that’s all.


The only chance created was the Maxi chance.


Likewise DD put Torres clean through in the first half, Im sure you remember, unless them buds are working already.


And when Malouda came on, the formation changed to 4-3-3 allowing the midfielders to build up play with the wingers, hence greater penetration. . . not because Malouda brought any dynamism that Essien and Lamps dont have. That should be proof that the two strikers were not helping in the build up with their static movement, rather than evidence that midfield were not performing.

Still waiting for them Cech saves.

Please name the save Cech made or shut ya gobshite!


Non harmful crosses (molehills) turned into mountains by Cech is no evidence of Liverpool midfield domination.

4 times productivity aka backpasses disguised as shot! 

Clap for yourself!! 

Please name the save Cech made or quit yarning.

Im sure Torres also had a clear chance just like Maxis and thats the sum total of chances created in that game.

^^^Oya name one save that Cech made! 

cross ni, cross ko!

CROSS NA CHANCE? 

They didnt even put in any decent crosses. . . na just Cech and Ivanovic begin dey miscommunicate.

debosky:
Isn't that what Gerrard and Mereiles did? Did Kuyt play a role in the goal or the chance by Maxi? Keep holding on to archaic idea.

Please list their 3 shots on target lets see what they created.

First shot on target - 30 yard drive that rolled to Cech

2nd shot - The goal

3rd shot - 30 yard drive straight at Cech.

Wey the chance wey dem create except Maxi's miss?

What save did Cech make?. . . maybe a 40 yard hopeless shot. I dont remember any chance that troubled Cech abeg!


The failings were clear ie lack of width, strikers offering no movement etc. . . . until some punk who doesnt know his left from right (aka Mr "Lets buy Thomas Hitzlsberger to replace Alex Song"  ) came here with a redundant point about midfield and trying to sell us that nonsense.

I dont see how three overworked players (whose tactical instruction is to cancel out opposition and keep the ball moving ala Gattuso and Ambrosini) would be blamed whilst A NUMPTY WOULD OVERLOOK THREE PLAYERS WITH FREE ROLES (Anelka, Torres and Drogba) on whose shoulders the responsibility to create should rest.

I guess Essien and Lampard have to dribble through the opposition midfield (without any winger to build up plays with), bring the ball to edge of the box and play perfect pass for Torres and Drogba whilst they stand with hands on hips. 


I dont blame Debosky, even if Chelsea play 4-1-5, he will still blame the 1 midfielder for not creating chances for the 5 strikers. 

So the fact a keeper dropped a cross is evidence that a midfield dominated.

How many shots on target did Liverpool have? One.

How many shots on target did Chelsea have? TWO

Both midfields cancelled each other out. QED!

Maga,

I said both midfields cancelled each other.

After smoking a spliff, you came here obnoxiously to make a statement that Liverpool midfield dominated ours.

I asked you:

Is it because they had 43% possession or because Cech dropped a silly cross.

You said its what you do with the ball, not about possession.

So I asked you what did Liverpool do with the ball and you are here prevaricating, asking ME to produce evidence that Chelsea dominated.

Was your schooling a waste?

I said both midfields cancelled each other!

You said Liverpool dominated, so it is up to YOU to produce the evidence they dominated.

Are you this dense?

I left home at 16.

My only advice is dont try it without steady income.

Also move where you have friends, otherwise could be boring, especially abroad.

[quote author=A-40 link=topic=497240.msg7684497#msg7684497 date=1297097227]E be like say scoliosis dey worry this one!! Using possession as a sole determinant of dominance is just lazy! Why not scour the web for player ratings or are you too ignorant to do that??[/quote]Omo, tell us what they did with their possession and stop prevaricating.

Why should I look for player ratings in a game I watched myself?

If Reina had dropped a cross and Chelsea won 1-0, maybe the ratings would be reversed, no be so?

[quote author=A-40 link=topic=497240.msg7684422#msg7684422 date=1297096649]Your grey matter must have been swapped with a bowl of okro! I would expect a simpleton like you to make your comparison based on possession rather than what they actually did with the ball[/quote]And what did they do with it?


I asked you two questions:

(1.) Chelsea midfield dominated by Liverpool in a match where they had 57% possession?

or

(2.)  Chelsea midfield dominated by Liverpool cos Cech decided to drop a nothing cross?


Which of the two?


Unless you can pinpoint anything they did with the ball?



It seems you have ebola in your medula oblangata!!! 

debosky:
PS - it was a midfield FOUR - Ibime can't even count!  

Anelka is the free man in the midfield four so no need including him when talking about rigidity!

Ibime:
instead of seeing the obvious rigidity of the front two are here prothletising about the rigidity of a midfield three who are supposed to be rigid according to instruction.

A midfield three, not THE midfield three.

And some say they invented grammar!

ALMUSTAQIM:
FG releases N15bn to Police for 2011 polls

And Ringim immediately chop N5bln out of it. . . 

^^^ It seems you have a boil in your cranium. Chelsea midfield dominated by Liverpool in a match where they had 57% possession, or Chelsea midfield dominated by Liverpool cos Cech decided to drop a nothing cross?

As for the punk Debosky who told us that Squillaci would solve all Arsenal defensive problems and once asked me whether we would be willing to swap Kalou for Alex Song. . . . if not for the fact the nucca is shameless, would he still be proffering opinions after yarning such nonsense? 

For the final time, Chelsea's problem yesterday was the lack of movement upfront and nothing else. Blame it on formation or whatever, but everyone knows that if you play a diamond with two strikers, at least one must be willing to drop deep, pull wide etc to create angles. You cant play with two rigid target men. . . some tactically naive punks, instead of seeing the obvious rigidity of the front two are here prothletising about the rigidity of a midfield three who are supposed to be rigid according to instruction.

Stop comparing apples and oranges nucca!

So you want Anelka to drop into midfield whilst Lampard/Essien move to the tip of the diamond?

There is a splinter in your sphincter!!!

You might as well ask me why Terry wasnt swapping position with Bosingwa!

If you have Ramires, Essien, Lamps and Mikel, then they can swap position, but Anelka cannot swap position with any midfielder!

In every system, certain players have degree of freedom and like I said earlier, Torres and DD are the ones with the freedom to pull wide, come deep, drop in the holes or whatever, but they were both standing like statues upfront.

Only a numpty like Debosky can yarn opata totally at odds with any form of tactical thinking.

Make overskill no kill this monkey o! 

Two idiots fighting over a mandate that is not theirs to give.

debosky:
The following comments from zonal marking begin to show the flaws with Chelski's midfielders:

Liverpool were the better side even before they went ahead in the second half, however, for two reasons. First, their diamond had much more fluidity. Chelsea’s midfield roles were obvious, with the diamond remaining intact throughout, each player in the same position. Liverpool’s diamond was based around more mutual understanding – Meireles was usually at the head of the four, but sometimes it was Gerrard, sometimes Rodriguez, sometimes Lucas would venture forward and another player would drop in and hold. That kept Chelsea guessing, and though it didn’t produce anything particularly exciting in the final third, did make Liverpool the side more likely to cause the opposition defence problems.

No energy, no drive, just rigid holding of positions.

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/02/06/chelsea-0-1-liverpool-tactics/#more-5824

Use your head boi. . . Anelka will hardly swap position with Essien will he?

Liverpool didnt win because Lucas, Raul, Maxi and Gerrard were swapping position or any nonsense analysis you dey type here. Both midfields cancelled each other and only one chance was created the whole match (DD pass to Torres). All this overanalysis because Cech decided to act like a numpty?

FBS:
Ibime and his usual quack stats. How many players in the EPL or in the world bag more than 20 goals each season?

Well, Lampard for one. . . so immediately that defeats Akos statement that the inconsistent DD has been our best player for 7 years.

FBS:
I've asked you but you refused to answer - na who be our top player this season aside Cech?

Why don't you analysis the team as a whole instead of focusing on a single player.

The whole team is playing rubbish, no one is saying otherwise!

Ivanovic is the best player this season by miles.

Ashley can also hold his head up.

Lamps has been injured, but the games he played he performed.

Only these 4 can hold their head.

@ Ako,

Please check your facts and figures and stop trumpeting fallacies about DD being the best player for 7 seasons.

In 7 seasons, he has only scored 20 goals twice. Before last year, he was copping 14, 15 goals. He spent most of them off-seasons either unfit, moaning about new contract or falling out with the manager. Please, DD does not produce in big games except Arsenal. How many chances did they give him to put us through against Barca. What about all his UCL flops in bigs games where we were knocked out.

In the last 7 years, Lamps has been far and above the best performer with constant returns, so stop trumpeting that fallacious line.

FBS:
When DD plays well, scoring and bullying opponents no one is here to praise him and like I have always said, we play a LOT better when he is in form. I cannot over emphasise that he was the MAIN reason we won a double last season.

But yeah, some bad games and it's ALL DD's fault. The same way Ibime attacks Mikel. Granted these two are not playing to their very best but mind you, Chelsea still played badly and lost when they were NOT on the pitch.

Agreed he (DD) is getting older but the same age issue most of you talked about the season before last and last season yet he managed to clinch the "Pichichi" of EPL? How many players of his age can play 90 mins of football?

Yeah right bench him. Lotti already did that this season and we all know the outcome. And what about the chance he created for Torres yesterday? Torres should have scored that, no?

What have you to say about your manager? What was the need to purchase Torres? (I've asked you nateevs, who recommended this purchase since you claim to have some "inside" info. Lotti or who? )

Does he expect DD and Nando to click immediately? I mentioned earlier that the midfield takes longer to work the ball forward and when they don't you've got some serious problem. We all expect DD to track back (he does this quite often) helping out with defensive work (we would probably have conceded more from set-pieces if not for his defensive abilities) but well, Torres WILL NEVER do that.

Why cant we all accept that something is definitely wrong with the whole team?

Needless to say and I think at this point, Chelsea can kiss the league title bye-bye.

PS; If Chelsea gets to the final of UCL   and Torres scores the winning goal all well and good. I will join in clapping for him but until then nawthing for him.

Sorry mate, Drogba has been gobshite this season. Cant even win headers no more.

I tire!

Where is the much-acclaimed (by Beaf) move toward Federalism? No political will, no results.

rasputinn:
I'll wait till he completes his full term in 2015 to make my assessment

FOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!

If the last 12 months, coupled with his abysmal performance in Bayelsa is not enough to show you CLEARLY where this man is heading, then consider the insult above well merited!

What excuse will you give us in 2015 after the abhorrent thief has failed?

SapeleGuy:
Bros
This is not a new idea. Our laws already have provisions for these type of 'No Interest' arrangements. Why not use them. Our law does not allow any shariah, islamic, juju or pentecostal bank. All some of us are saying is respect our constitution and laws. Nigeria is a secular state.

Typical Sapeleguy, ranting stupidly.

Of course you forgot that Soludo had already kicked off this process.

^^Hazard in central midfield? I hope not under Carlotti's tactical instructions for midfielders.

@ All,

The cut off point for qualification to the H2H cup play-offs is in 6 weeks.

Either get yourself in the top 8 or get knocked out.

As for Borokiri Boyz, we already have one foot in the play-offs. 3 wins out of 6 will see us through!

I would play Essien, Ramires and Lamps!

Talking about younger and fitter players in midfield, Debo, please provide the opta stats for the game before yarning opata. I doubt any player can cover more ground than Lamps does. The fact is that the onus is on the players with free role to produce in Carlotti's system. If you can show me any season where Ambrosini and Gattusso contribute offensively on a consistent basis, then you will appreciate that Lamps has done far more than his attacking remit since Carlotti took over.

The game looked FLAT because DD and Torres offered no movement and no pressing. Simples!

I done talk am say it is not the duty of Gattuso and Ambrosini (Lamps and Essien) to create chances every game whilst competing in midfield and also doing the defensive work of the wingers. In big games as long as they do their defensive input, I expect they have done their job!

Of course, they may shine against Sunderland but not in the big games.

The position of our fullbacks on the pitch should tell you much influence Lamps and Essien will have. If Ashley Cole is rampaging in the opposition half, that means the left side (Lamps and Cole) have less defensive work to do, and Lamps position on the pitch would be higher where he can affect the game. Likewise Essien!!