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You dont have to wait for code. Select your team and start playing. If Eldee is slow to give you code, at least when he does, you would already have points on board when you join the league.

Eldee wake up mehn.

Di Santo has shown flashes of brilliance in several pre-season games in America.

When he first joined Chelsea in 07, he was partnering Shevchenko in the reserve team and was scoring a goal a game, double what Sheva was producing.

Again I believe the decision to send him to Blackburn was a stupid one.

ow11:
I conceded that we are cousins and did not know that even the Amayanabo of Okrika had Igbo ancestry.

Igbo chiefs in Nembe and Okrika can and have become Amanyanabo.

The only exception is Ibani and Kalabari where Perekule and Amakiri families hog the Amanyanaboship amongst their lineage.

Nothing will happen cos they're all military men. The day GEJ tries it is the day he will be shot.

Soboma is the bloodiest killer PH has ever known. Him and his junior brother Senibo also killed Marshall Harry, the ANPP chieftain. Back then Soboma was barely 23 and Senibo was barely 21.He also killed Minabo Fiberesima, Golden Kalio, loads of Osaroos boys and loads of political figures.

Make no mistake. Soboma is a creation of Odili, the first devil to introduce assassination into Rivers State politics. May God punish Odili and all his generations. Onye oshi.

Its saddening to hear that kakuta is in the last year of his contract. For me that means he is definitely leaving.

Does anyone know why he disappeared after the Apoel Nicosia game last season? Was it injury, ill-discipline or what?

Di santo showed several flashes of brilliance. Even scott sinclair is running tings for swansea now. The last two youngsters we discarded hastily were stoch and lass diarra. I hope we will not lose kakuta either cos if we refuse to give him time on pitch he will leave.
Di santo was praised for his allround game @ blackburn but too much rugby affected his confidence. Likewise proven hotshot like kalinic is struggling with their style which is better suited to powerful wastepipes like Samba and Mame Diouf. I'm convinced of Di santos quality. Watch him do a Forlan.

Abagworo:
@ibime.you are wishing away your igbo roots for no just cause.okrika speaks igbo only as a second language while bonny and opobo speak igbo as a first language.it is undeniably true that there is high mix of igbo in bonny and okrika.

This debate is not about genetics. It can be agreed that up to 80% of Eastern Ijaws have Igbo blood in them.

Once again, this debate is about land. Stay focused! 

Onlytruth:
Even today, there are sizable numbers of Igbo people changing their last name to English names, mainly to take their fathers' first names. Those Igbo kings took on English names. Igbo find change of name very easy. We don't hold fast much to Igbo names.

[quote author=komando. link=topic=500126.msg6671928#msg6671928 date=1283255123]Because Igbos wanted the English traders not to bite their tongues pronouncing some words. Remember that is the same complaint against Igbo use of English in Nollywood.[/quote]
Why didnt Igbos in the great Igbo trading ports like Onitsha and Aboh change their name to English name?

Answer this and you will find the truth.

Obiagu1:
@ Ibime,
Your line of argument doesn’t provide us with any new information. I’ve challenged you to provide evidence that King Pepple was not Igbo and you haven’t. I’ll wait till you do that.

Pepples answer names like Fubara and Opubo.

To help you, its either

(a.) He is Ijaw
(b.) He is Igbo, but changed his name to Ijaw to fit in

Pick one, it makes no difference.

Obiagu1:
Heck we even take Ijaw names.

Question:

Why would Igbo man change his name to Ijaw name in "Igbo land"

Answer:

Igbo man would change his name to Ijaw name in Ijaw land



Assignment:

Find me one house in Ibani with Igbo name.

You forget that Anna and Pepple are Perekule house whilst George, Ogan and Abam split from Ado house in 1940's.

We have Ijaw houses, English houses, but no Igbo houses. How come?

Song by Nembe people:

Erika nimiga ye re biyo bo
Igbobo ebetu tubo re o fe ma
Tubo re o nyana ma, Nembe n'ongu?


Translation:

I ask this out of ignorance
They say he is an Igbo, but who bought him?
And who is his master, people of Nembe?


Lesson:

There are 67 houses in Bonny. Name one house with Igbo name.

slimshay:
Meanwhile in other news, the new S.I. Unit of being a pest has been agreed to be one deekay. Symbol dK.

E.g. Sauron average post on Arsenal thread registers at 54.2dK.

hehehehehe. . . . classic. . .


Meanwhile Dutch FA are saying RVP is out for "several weeks". . .

Abagworo:
rivers state once had a governor with mbaise father and okrika mother in the 90s.

Whats his name?

[quote author=~Borat~ link=topic=481784.msg6664722#msg6664722 date=1283163227]Leave Ibime,
ITs lonely at the top its lonely at the top
WE shall soon see
Got a paltry 40 points this week but at least i still have 9 points from 3 games in the h2h[/quote]Thats why I say its lonely at the top. . . . cos they hate when you on top. . .

Post the league table please. . . . as custom demands. . .

FACE:
My inference is that the Ibani/Ijaw were also present at some point, but have always been in the minority, hence the minority status of their language on the island to this day.


When the land of Bonny prospered, it attracted people from neighbouring brass, Kalabari etc, but the migration was not enough to put them in the majority. They also called themselves Ibani, after Ubani which was already in existence.

It would then be funny that all Kings of Bonny and all people of Bonny have Ijaw names.

Which kain juju does this minority use? 


Feel free to join Bonny brothers on Facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=203086535376&topic=8841

This whole process of Jonathan/IBB trying to buy all Governors and political personas just shows that Nigerian elections are a sham, and the next election will be also despite the appointment of Jega.

DBR:
Ibime held  it down . .for a long run/
the beast took out e'rbody who ever wanted one/
felt i culd end it . .if i get  ma turn/
but it neva came . .he remained the Don/
had loads of victory. .then came the Street son/
Wize was scorchin/. .seem no one culd touch him/,
for those he took out. . .t'was cold torture/
they cuddnt Flaw him. . . so they endorsed him/
his puches on Flow for Rank. .phukin awesom/

They all feel me/ Streets is what you call witty/
till his audios disappoint. . . like fat chicks with small t*tties!/ 

DBR, you forgot the no1 rule of Nairaland. . . . STAY CLEAR OF OFOKA!!!. . . . its just not rational.

Anyone who needs help with their team should send their log-in details to

itslonelyatthetop@gmail.com

I promise to get you in the top ten within 3 gameweeks

lalaboi:
All of your players have played today. . .So why u com dey shout ?  

Peeps still get left overs for 2mrw. . .chillax jor. . . Nor be 76points? . . .

Wasnt the 76 points the highest scoring for the week?

Make you dey there. . . . 65 point average will land you in the top spot of the whole FPL. . . .Im currently in the top 700 worldwide whilst you niggas are ranked 2 million and something. . . 

RichyBlacK:
What you've described is a one-step reduction in detail, however, one can choose to do it in more than one step - I'm certain you've seen this style of writing before.

This may be true had he not described the whole of Calabar and Ibibio as Eboes also.

It is either:

(1.) His language is sufficiently ambiguous

or

(2.) His definition of Eboe is not what we know it to be today.

RichyBlacK:
But you'll agree with me that inline with avoiding the repetitive use of "part of the natives" in a list, the following could be identical:

A. The Eboes Proper, which comprise part of the natives of the Rio Formosa, part of the natives of Warree Island, part of the natives of Rio Esclavos, part of the natives of Brass Town, and part of the natives of the Quorra.

With my limited knwoledge of the English language, I think you would agree that had the writer wished to quantify "part of the natives of Brass, Warri" etc, he would have written thus:


1. The Eboes Proper, which comprise part of the natives of the Rio Formosa, Warree Island, Rio Escia- vos, Brass Town, and the Quorra.


However, by reintroducing[b] the natives of[/b] after Rio Formosa, he is quantifying the whole of Brass, Warri etc as Eboes.



1. The Eboes Proper, which comprise part of the natives of the Rio Formosa, the natives of Warree Island, Rio Escia- vos, Brass Town, and the Quorra.

RichyBlacK:
Ibime,

This is the dilemma we find ourselves in:

1. ALL the older publications (pre-amalgamation) were not written by "natives" but by Europeans with their limited but less biased perspective.

2. SOME of the newer publications (post-Biafra) were written by "natives" but are likely tainted with the politics of the 1960s and hence more biased.

The first thing to acknowledge is that the need to qualify oneself as Ijaw or Igbo only came into effect post-amalgamation, as groups sought to find political concensus/relevance.

Back then, Okrika, Kalabari, Abo, Onitsha, Bonny, Aro etc did not see themselves as part of a larger group but as individual entities.

Within that context, this particular debate about origin of Bonny relates chiefly to Ijaw/Igbo struggle for political relevance. . . . Im also not discounting the fact that some hardcore Igbo nationalists view sea access as sine qua non for the viability of a future Igbo state, although that is a secondary concern at this present time.   

This debate is not about the genetic make-up of Bonny people as I believe that most of them are descendants of Igbo slaves/migrants. It is rather about claim to indegeneity/aboriginity, hence claim to land.

You only have to look at Ibani dialect, and you will find it is almost the same as Okrika and Kalabari dialect.

These three are also partially intelligible with Brass language but unintelligible with Igbo language.

It would be impossible to claim original Ibani as Igbo without also claiming Okrika and Kalabari.

Whilst all three (Okrika, Kalabari and Ibani) have strong link and genetic mix-up with Igbo, in the context of Nigerian political grouping (Ijaw or Igbo), it would be impossible to classify them as belonging to any other group apart from Ijaw.

RichyBlacK:
Ibime,

I noticed that too, but I'm not sure if the "part" in the sentence was used in an extensive form:

1. The Eboes Proper, which comprise part of the natives of the Rio Formosa, the natives of Warree Island, Rio Escia- vos, Brass Town, and the Quorra.

See the supplemental pages (just two) in my next posts. He tries to explain the "Eboe language".

From my little knowledge of English, the part bit only relates to the natives of the Rio Formosa. . . . as the writer introduces new adjective to qualify (the whole) of the natives of Warri, Rio Escavros (Delta State), Brass and the Quorra (River Benue) as proper Eboes.

@ RichyBlack,

I think you need to review these explorers definition of "Eboes", as they view everyone as Eboes including Brass, Warri and even Cross River. . . . according to the paper you uploaded. . .

Chamakh's goalscoring history at Bordeaux and in African Nations Cups is dodgy. Wouldnt expect him to turn Batigoal overnight. Dont hold your breath.

I hope this Koscielny dude is not a product of Wenger's desire to be "different" from anyone else. . .

Only Wenger price the guy from £4m to £10m even when no other team was interested in him.

I hope he is not the ball-playing defender that would get bullied for breakfast. Common El-Hadji Diouf dey bully the guy like say he never chop for morning. . . . not looking good.

And I see Dr Kit's point. . . yeah Chamakh has good hold up play, neat skills and good physicality. . . . but everytime he shoot the ball, power and accuracy no dey. . . . would he cop more than 15 goals?

Once again, MEND FC are top performers for the week. . . .where are Mubz and Galacticos?. . . sort yourselves out lads. . . its lonely at the top.

Malooooooooooooooooudaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

Your claim that Opubo was Igbo was predicated solely on Richards Burtons testimony that Opubo migrated from AmaIgbo. . . . this Ive proved beyond reasonable doubt to be patently false. . .

Now the story is that Asimini is Igbo although all historical folktales including the one accepted on Ohanaeze website say that Asimini migrated from Kolokuma, through Akassa (Brass) through Ndoki and finally to Bonny. . . not only that, but his Ibani language is almost the same as Kirike and Kalabari language, for example Ibime (Okrika) means Good whilst Ibim (Ibani) means good. . . . regardless of the fact that all names of Kings and places in Ibani are Ijaw, their language is Ijaw etc. . . .

It is either they are Ijaw, or the very few Ijaw amongst them have powerful Juju that convince them to change their names, names of towns, language and identify themselves as Ijaw. . . . . hehehehe. . .  .I leave it in Gods hands. . .

@ Obiagu,


There is no difference between what you and I have written except the errant claim that Opubo was the first King who migrated from Igbo land circa 1783.

Like I told you earlier, Opubo was not the first King, but the third King, and the son of Perekule I.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=8drXpCGaT-UC&pg=PA33&lpg=PA33&dq=king+opubo+pepple&source=bl&ots=8GlpRBLSiL&sig=VUUv1vTvF008RlVnW1lH_9ex_io&hl=en&ei=bHR4TI3wCYqQjAep-eGWBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=king%20opubo%20pepple&f=false


Here we have the genealogy of all Ibani Kings. . .as you can see, Opubo is Perekule III, with his father as Perekule I and his brother Fubara as Perekule II

This is pretty conclusive, and therefore Richard Burtons claim in 1863 that Opubo had migrated 80 years earlier (1783) from Igbo land must be stricken off the record. Opubo was born a Bonny man. As you can see, Perekule I was already on the throne by 1760.

http://rulers.org/nigatrad.html



Okolo-Ama

c.1310                Okolo-Ama city-state founded; known to Europeans as Bonny

Note: The ruling class is organized into wari ("houses". The name of the wari, where available, is given in [ ].

Rulers (title Amanyanabo)
- Pepple dynasty -
        ,  -         ,   Asimini
        ,  -         ,   Edimini
        ,  -         ,   Kambasa (f)
        ,  -         ,   Kamalu
        ,  -         ,   Opu Dappa
        ,  -         ,   Amakiri
        ,  -         ,   Apia
        ,  -         ,   Warri
       1759 -        1760  Awusa "King Halliday"
                           + Igbani
                           + Bupuor
                           + Ipuor
       1760 - 17,   Perekule I "Captain Pepple"
       17,  -  1792  Fubara I Agbaa Pepple
                           [Fubara Manilla Pepple]
       1792 -1828  Opubo Fubara Pepple
                           [Opubo Anna Pepple]
       1828 -  1830  Bere-ibibo Pepple
       1830                Regency
                           - Ibaniburufigha
                             [Fubara Manilla Pepple]
                           - Maduka [Opubo Anna Pepple]
       1830 - 23 Jan 1854  Dappa Perekule (1st time)
       1830 -        1836    Alali [Opubo Anna Pepple]
                             (regent)
23 Jan 1854 - 13 Aug 1855  Dapu Fubara II Pepple "King Dappo" (b. ,  - d. 1855)
11 Sep 1855 - 18 Aug 1861  Regency
                           - Iloli [Opubo Anna Pepple]        (b. ,  - d. 1862)
                           - Dapu "Adda Allison"
                             [Adda Allison]
                           - Oju Adango Hart = Akunnayi
                             [Captain Hart] (to 18, )
                           - Wogu Dappa [King Dappo] (from 18, )
                           - Jack Gboboitemegha = Jack Ntsheke =
                             Erina Shabu [Fubara Manilla Pepple]
18 Aug 1861 - 30 Sep 1866  William Dappa Pepple I
                           (= Dappa Perekule) (2nd time)
30 Sep 1866 - 14 Dec 1883  George Oruigbiji Pepple I (1st time)
14 Dec 1883 - 22 Jan 1887  vacant?
22 Jan 1887 - 31 Oct 1888  George Oruigbiji Pepple I (2nd time)
31 Oct 1888 - 28 Feb 1892  Waribo [Fubara Manilla Pepple]
                           (regent)
       1892 -        1923  Ate [Fubara Manilla Pepple]
                           (regent)
       1932 - 14 Feb 1932  Claude Sodienye
                           [Fubara Manilla Pepple]
                           (1st time) (regent)                (b. ,  - d. 1952)
14 Feb 1932 -        1937  Secondus George Pepple II          (b. ,  - d. 1939)
       1937 -        1952  Claude Sodienye
                           [Fubara Manilla Pepple]
                           (2nd time) (regent)                (s.a.)
       1952 - 27 Dec 1957  Francis D. Banigo (regent)
27 Dec 1957 -        1970  Eugene William Dappa Pepple II
       1970 -        1978  Regency
                           - Abesa T. Allison                 (b. ,  - d. 1978)
                           - Mathew Ate Pepple (to 1975)      (b. ,  - d. 1975)
                           - Benonai Ezekiel Hart (to 1973)   (b. ,  - d. 1973)
       1978 -        1993  Opuada Pepple
       1993 -        1996  Chiefs Council
       1996 -              Edward Asimini William Dappa
                           Pepple III = Perekule XI

Obiagu1:
Yes he said that probably their origin was Igbo which is sensible because no one can be quite sure, even Igbos have debates about their origin.

But he was unequivocal when he stated that “The King of New Calabar, in the neighbourhood, and Pepple, king of Bonny, were both of Eboe descent, of which also are the mass of the native.”

That was a precise statement for me and very unambiguous.

If he is ambiguous about the origin of the people, how can he be unambiguous about the King?

Enough of this ridiculous argument. Another proper historian gives details of the same Pepple and Alali and says that an Igbo slave can never be King in Bonny. The other historian tells us about Pepple, tells us his mother was Kalabari woman, even tells us he appointed Yanibo and Ishacco as regent when illness prohibited him from carrying out his duties. He tells us how Yanibo and Ishacco fled to Fernando Po when the people turned agianst Dappa Pepple, yet you are here quoting a coarse slave trader who isnt even sure where the people are from.

Which of the two do you think is more informed?


Keep nonsense arguments to yourself. I wont indulge you further. I refer you to Ohanaeze:

http://www.ohanaeze.org/4.html