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Chalobah defending alone, a one man wall

Enzo needs to come off. You can't carry a physical liability like Enzo with 10 men

We are fvcked not just today but the next 2 games which he will miss

Airmark will feast today

Fvck sake

Enzo Vs Tonali is a murder

They look so dangerous every time they come forward

afrodoc:
Is Economics STEM or non-STEM?

At undergrad level, the Maths in Economics no pass finding where lines intersect on a graph and solving for it. This is usually used for things like Break even points, Optimal production volumes, Price elasticity etc. They will actually draw out the graph and start using ruler to find intersection points at undergrad level. I attended few workshops (those ones supervised by PHD students) since I couldn't make lessons and saw my coursemates drawing graph and just laughed, converted everything into simultaneous equations or 3x3 matrix and quickly solved, that's when some guys there started asking me to teach them Linear Algebra, that how will someone use 2 mins to finish what they will labour over for 30 mins

At PHD level, they do enter into stochastic processes and heavier calculations, but I will say it is 70% art at undergrad level

100% of contributors to the N word Karen are MAGAts who voted for Trump last election. Would never catch me finding common cause with such people

TemporaryHansel:
The excuses have started rolling in. But I thought the science bros were the almighty Alpha and Omega?
If science bros are really that elite, then a few responsibilities shouldn’t stop him from obliterating psychology, right? Or does the magic only work when you’re trash talking art students?
After all, y’all swore two hours of light skimming was enough to blitz through any non science course. Now that it’s time to walk the talk, suddenly it’s “life is hard.”

Wait make him talk him scores first.

Accounting is a light science. For Chartership you only need 50% in each exam and the Chartership is not graded. So once I score my 50%, I'm through to the next round, so I didn't kill myself. A Maths graduate has nothing to prove by being an award winner in Accounting Chartership, same way he doesn't need to carry first in Psychology. He will carry 2.1 with bathroom slippers on at worst, or an easy 1st class, while art students are killing themselves with thousands of hours of revision for the same thing.

BlueRayDick:
So now it is about heavy and light science 😂😂😂

Una never know wetin Dey do una .

Someone asked for example of people in management sciences who crossed to Sciences , I showed him examples of people who actually did. Here u are doing premium shalaye about heavy and light science .

Shior ! 😏

Na the highest science Art students fit manage be that innit. Science wey no need university

AmazonTopaz:
I found my faith again and I have centered it solely around Christ. I don't like going to Church but I enjoy NSPPD and Streams of Joy Sunday services on YouTube. It's only Pastor Jerry Eze I listen to his teachings and prayers these days. The Church is sometimes a breeding ground for abuse, sexism, classism and what not. Anyway this is a discussion for another day.

Hmmm. Anyone I've seen following NSPPD and 7am Fire Prayers are usually going through personal crisis. I hope all is well sha

TemporaryHansel:
@bolu why are you not answering this question? Them don hold you for blokos abi?

He already said he's cruising despite plenty other work and responsibilities choking him. He doesn't have to be Magnum Cüm Laude, all 1st Class na 1st Class, even if na 2nd class, na wetin him get time for.

Mind you Psychology is also a science. It has BSc and BA. But for a heavy science guy like him, he will consider it art

bolu96:
Despite the fact that I was much younger, had no responsibilities and had sponsors, I had to study a whole LOT to get decent grades whereas in this Psychology, where responsibilities choke, trying to hustle, I'm basically crusing and still perform well.

BlueRayDick:
Dey play !

There are several Nigerians who were accountants , HR professionals , etc who are now Registred Nurses abroad . Abi nursing no be sciences ?

Read this lady’s story for example

https://avanthealthcare.com/blog/healthcare-professionals/dream-become-inspire-meet-chinyere-rn-.stml#

I even get former neighbor who was working in a financial institution here in Lagos before she left Naija ; today she’s RN in America . She even studied an education course in the varsity that had absolutely nothing to do with science . I didn’t use her example because some people may think it’s a made-up story to win an argument .

People in the management sciences in Nigeria don’t cross to science because there are enough well paying jobs in the management sciences compared to pure , applied and medical sciences . Doctors don’t even earn well like bankers .

Na money Dey affect these decisions in Nigeria not some imaginary reasons u guys are coming up with .

Nursing is not a heavy science my guy

The maths in nursing no pass knowing how to read blood pressure, temperature and how to mix X ounces of drug A with Y ounces of drug B in proportionality

Most nurses are not even university graduates, na why dem get nursing school.

bolu96:
I believe in this die! Nature theory in Psychology agree with you.
We used to see the Arts students as lazy then because even in class, when there were no teachers, science students are either studying in class or exchanging knowledge. Name of noisemakers always come from Arts class.

Theflint1:
He's not wrong, but you'd agree that people that the people that most of the people that chose the arts didn't do so because they were good writers either. For secondary school then, a fair chunk of the writers that represented the school in essay writing competitions were pooled from science classes.

No lie told. It was always the Science students representing their house or school in Literary and Debating Society or inter house or school debates. If it didn't dey, it didn't dey!

liveLongNprospa:
When did oil work in Delta State become a major reason to be in science class?
Which conversation do you think we were having in secondary school that our interest for joining science class was to work in O&G.
This is why I said you don't know beyond your immediate environment and you are basing that as general knowledge.
Abeg nau

I don't know which school you went but many of our Parents in my school in PH were connected to oil industry or could see that many people making it in PH were doing so from oil industry

Of the top 3 in my class I referenced earlier, No 3 father worked for Shell, No 2 father was an Accountant who worked with oil companies and also ran for Governor, while No1 father was a Director in Civil Service and ended up as Perm Sec before he died, though I'm not sure what his specialisation was though his relative is Lulu Briggs who was a Don in oil industry. Oil industry or Engineers children full everywhere. At least 5 in my class from Shell.

liveLongNprospa:
See mumu argument "A final year physicist will pass the course of a final year political science if he reads it in one week" you think that volume of course load is for fancy. The way you go fail ehn

My bro forget this talk.

A final year Physics student will dust Political Science MASTERS level in one week and come out with first class.

No be yarns, speaking from personal experience my wife studied that same Political Science (International Relations), came out with 2.1 and won't touch me in any Political science talk. Infact she won't know the basis of the Political discussion half the time

From personal experience, i did Masters in Applied Maths, and many of my coursemates had Physics first degree. That's when I knew Physics students had much better Maths than Maths students. I ended up copying most of their coursework to survive.

BlueRayDick:
So u don’t see Ibime who is a first class science graduate making himself both the sample and population of the data set Abi , na when I speak for management/social sciences u Dey point out outlier

I am neither the sample nor population cos I was never 1st nor top 3 in secondary school

My carrying 1st ended in Primary 1 or Primary 2

In JSS, I place top 10, sometimes top 12 in a bad semester. I can argue I would come 4th if I worked hard but there were 3 people clearly better than me. The two guys that drag number 1 and 2 are lawyer and banker now and the 3rd girl (who always came 1st in Maths without fail) is an Engineer in USA

There is not one person in our class of 30 who ended up in Arts at Senior Secondary, not a single one. A few guys from Class B stepped up into Science but Class C and D fully into Arts. Like I said, we done know ourselves right from JSS 1

Dathypebruv:
I support ibime's claim about class separation right from JSS, I went to a federal unity school in delta so I can attest about about majority of students would rather be in science or struggle at least for it na only those wey head nor carry am go give up to join arts or commercial.

I no even know wetin some bros dey argue. Dis one na common knowledge

TemporaryHansel:
But wait oh... Do you always look down on non-stem graduates in real life too, or only on nl? You're taking all this stem vs non-stem stuff too serious oh.

Same way our parents discriminated to make sure we understand what puts us in best position in life is same way we must preach the STEM message to the younger generation. This thing fit be matter of life and death for them

Yes I do discriminate in real life. Na so my niece wey spark 9 A stars at GCSE and is more intelligent than all of us talk say she no go do Maths for A Levels. I had been fighting with her for 2 years to let her know A Level Maths is the foundation for her to be brilliant in whatever her course of study. Even if she wants to be a Doctor, she would not be a brilliant Doctor without at least a grounding in Maths up to A Level standard. Luckily she chose Biology and Chemistry for A Levels, leaving the Medicine route open, then combined with English and another nonsense. That one leaves the Lawyer route open. Finally she done pick Law and Cambridge done invite her otherwise would be a monumental waste of talent, so my mind done come down small.

Even at her not choosing Maths at A Levels, my pressure still forced her to seek a solid grounding in Maths that has helped her to be brilliant at A Levels and will surely mould her logical reasoning going forward. This life no be play, adults wey know as market be should not allow children to make wrong choices and fumble their future success

liveLongNprospa:
In which secondary school was this law?
And before you start capping, I am a science student.

So how many secondary schools did you attend in Delta State to deduce that majority of the class A students where in science class?
Because unlike you, my family owned a secondary school in warri and I am pretty sure I have better understanding of how education works than you.

So how you take come to this conclusion?

Wetin you dey yarn sef?

Is there anywhere class A students gravitate more toward Arts than Sciences?

Na Rivers State I dey, which one be Delta. And no be only una get school

So you are telling me that in Delta where Oil industry is the main game in town, sharp students will rather gravitate towards Arts than Science/Engineering that pays in oil industry. Maybe Delta boys dull, not Rivers boys

liveLongNprospa:
Lmao.. Just talking out of your old yansh.

Because the curriculum na wetin you fit consume in 1 week.

You think say na Hollywood be this?
You go fail wetin nor good

Voltron of the Arts

No be talk, we did it. Most of my Maths courses were revised in one week max, some in one night. My Partial Differential Equations exam was sewn up from scratch in 3 days with 96% pass mark, you dey talk about social sciences wey we go use 2 hours memorise everything for the whole semester.

In accounting exams, we had Enterprise, Management and Financial pillars. Never spent more than one overnight session on Enterprise and Management modules, na Financial modules we dey spend like 3 days on.

I have a friend who is now in Angola who studied tourism degree. I did every single one of his coursework and had him on course for 1st class, the nugga fvcked it up back to 2.2 with his performance in exams. Funny enough he is the nigga I am always arguing with about Ibrahima Traore, bloody art student

Don't compare memorisation skills with science students please. Niggas done see blood for eye. I am a particularly lazy student who only gears up in exam week, have done that my whole life. Accounting exams especially the non-numeric ones were like walk in the Park after tackling heavy Maths exams up to Masters level at one or few days notice. Na Kola nut and redbull we dey use write Maths exam, zero sleep the night before having left revision till last minute. But if na arts course, we will sleep like baby, wake up 5 am, read for 2 hours and pass exam without attending one lesson all semester. I am speaking from experience because my degree was 3/4 Maths, 1/4 Economics. Never attended Economics lessons because they clashed with my Maths modules and were too easy to catch up on.

BlueRayDick:
You have a habit of renovating people’s speech and “saying what u think someone meant “. Person wey talk no put any qualifying words to say he was referring to multiple choice or theory exam.

He just felt because of his general knowledge of systems of government , current affairs and listening to news he would ace a subject called “Government “ . He attempted saw a glimpse of multiple choice questions and agreed he won’t ace it like he claimed earlier .


Why do u feel the need to still try to cling on to the possibility of him acing the exam ? 🤷‍♂️

I actually got 2 of the 4 questions you posted without blinking. That's already 50%. With guessing on the multiple choice, I may get one of the other 2. With one night of revision, I would get them both, so rest with your Government talks.

E get some Maths or Physics courses, you will start reading one week out from the exam and you will quit within the first 10 mins because you know you have no chance. Immediately, headache and depression will start to catch you simultaneously and you will just write it off as carryover because you can't kill yourself.

Unless Ola Aina scores 8 points tomorrow, I am through to the semifinal

semid4lyfe:
Question - How do we raise our kids to have aptitude for mathematics?

I believe it's the bedrock and foundation for STEM courses and would want my kids to do STEMs.

Me, I was average in it and wifey though a first class & distinction graduate read sociology.

Though its early days, my 6-year old in Basic 2 is already showing a dislike for it and grumbles whenever its time to do Maths home work.

Find Numberblocks on YouTube, incentivise them to watch it religiously and thank me later

My son found Numberblocks on his own and knew all his timetables, prime numbers, square numbers etc by age 4. He could even extend it further and be doing 13 times, 14 times up to 20 times by adding up. He has changed his watching interest from Numberblocks in the last two years but you can't catch him out with any addition, multiplication or division till date. He has even started Algebra and can find X in a simple equation from age 6

His senior sister on the other hand struggled with timestable till age 8 so I had to start bribing her with £1 per Numberblocks video till she completed her timetable recently. Mind you she was still top 3 in Maths in her class but the constant praise of her Junior brothers proficiency in Maths wrecked her confidence and made her feel inferior such that she would not look at timestable or attempt any Maths. Sometimes she would be doing homework, calculating and counting her fingers furiously and her Junior brother will just shout out the answer within one second, infuriating her and wrecking her confidence. So I had to have a talk with her to explain that her brother is exceptional and not to pay him any mind, while laying out bribes for her to learn timestable and hanging timestable on her wall for her to inculcate every night before bed.

BlueRayDick:
In SS1 they automatically place extremely brilliant students in Science class irrespective of what they decide . You will only be placed in art or commercial if u insist.

We are making the same point. Sharp students in science and dunces in Arts. I don't recall specifically making a choice in SS1, Science was always a given. The choice is usually with the dunces in Arts who want to do Science and have to make their will be known. But the choice is there.

If you have been sitting in an area of class with sharp minds like Bode, Souala and Arinze from JSS1 to 3, sharp irons who also sharpen your iron, you will not willingly go and sit with Mumudu and Portable in Arts class who you have known as dunces since JSS1, that's recipe to dull yourself.

BlueRayDick:
Well, I my time nobody lets u decide ur specialization in JSS class when u’ve not been tested to know where u would actually fit in as per ur performance .

It’s in Senior secondary class the talking specialization came into the picture . We clearly studied under two different education system .

It's in SS1 you decide after everybody done know themselves for Junior Secondary. Nobody decides for you. Are you telling me you were decided for?

BlueRayDick:
In my school u write JSCE set by Lagos state ministry of education in JSS3 and that is what they normally use in determining what department to place students in Senior secondary class.

They don’t just ship people JSS3 A to science class in SS1 . That is why I kept on telling u to stop generalizing .

Nobody ship anybody to science class. In my time we all choose our specialisations and the A class students all choose Science while the dunces in B-D choose Arts. Even the smartest nigga in my class that knew he wanted to become a lawyer chose Science, and he is a lawyer now.

swiz123:
I recently realized that Biology is very simple and I could have been a doctor if laziness didn’t stop me from keeping up with writing lengthy notes.

If you read a Radiologist report on a scan, you will know you don't know Biology

Simple case of scanning your knee to discover the extent of cartilage damage, you will think the Radiologist report will be easy to assess until you start to read grammar and terms wey you no understand. Eventually you will have to let the Orthopod interpret everything that nigga wrote.

afrodoc2:
A science student who can smash non-STEM is an all-rounder by definition.

I would argue there is no good science student that won't pass Arts courses well with one night revision. Not a single one.

BlueRayDick:
Lolz .😂

So who told u art and commercial students don’t pass maths and English excellently well as much as their science counterparts ?

U can only speak for urself and the people u know . The science students in my set still respect me till date. E get reason why. I made my O’levels writing GCE in SS2 while they called it their own first attempt which they made some papers and didn’t make some . They either had D7 in English or Maths making their result incomplete .

You people should just stop generalizing based on ur personal experiences .

Speak for yourself. We know how far on average

E get reason why those in class A from JSS 1-3 ended up as Science students in Senior secondary while those in classes B-D in Junior secondary starting forming Art student in Senior Secondary

I don't know how your school separated students on ability but we know ourselves right from JSS 1 based on class A to D system

BlueRayDick:
The secondary school education in Nigeria is diffent what obtains in the UK .

An Art student should finish Maths in Nigeria. Based on their scores in Maths, you can tell whether they have it upstairs or it's Cho Cho Cho

I'm willing to bet that STEM students score better in English than non STEM students

You can use these two subjects as control mechanism