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popizaino:
He wants to turn iniesta into Frank lampard who stat pad at the group stage level of every competition only to go missing when it mattered most.

Lampard has about 7 GA in UCL semis and a goal in UCL final

If Lampard do his own and does not have others to seal the win like Messi, Xavi, Eto, Suarez and Neymar do while Iniesta is mostly being unproductive, that is not his problem. Learn the difference between someone who carries the burden of his team and another who is carried by his team.

Give a carryalong the mantle to carry his team forward and he will nearly relegate them like Iniesther did to Vissel Kobe in Japanese league

Kilishihunter:
When he goes clutch it's him being dragged to the stream when that pass from fabregas was slightly deflected

Did it land to him 1v1 Vs keeper

So what's the brouhaha and how is it different from Mario Gotze?

If you keep taking a player to semis, finals etc with no contribution from him, he is supposed to score in a few

Just by probability, an AM scores once in every 3 games and assists at roughly the same rate, so if you take him to twenty semifinals and finals with little contribution of his own on the way there, you will see some goals and assists in those finals and semis. Even Pedro make his name when taken to finals

airmark:
If I ask you to rate this your ridiculous rebuttal on a scale of -10 to 10, what will you pick?

Nigga is going into Macaulay Chrisantus levels

Kilishihunter:
2010 world cup final's hosly not impact?
2009 clutch goal winner against Chelsea in 2009 is not impact?
Game changer from the bench in 2006 UCL no be impact?
Euros 2012 POTT no be impact

Affidavit polling both awards

Never in my life will I see a left winger go into tournament with zero goals and assists and win POTT like Iniesta did in Euro 2012

Media went into shakushaku madness and overdrive, trying to pay Iniesta back for not winning individual accolade after scoring 2010 WC final goal, which again was his only GA contribution to that tournament

When Xavi assisted the solitary winning goals in the Word Cup second round, quarterfinal and semifinal back to back, Iniesta was dancing shakushaku, until Fabregas gave him a clean 1v1 with the keeper in the final

A case of a horse being dragged to the stream everyday until he drinks

Xavi made Iniestas career. Even the one thing Iniesta is known for, that midfield tikitaka control, he was never good at it. It was Xavi work

Xavi assisted twice in Euro 2012 final, they chose a nigga with zero GA as POTT based on Kovacic style dribbles

Xavi assisted the only goal in Euro 2008 final

Studious people know who the real driver was

When Xavi started having Achilles tendonitis in 2013, everything disappeared.

Debroslink:
Some people no get their own mind. They allow people's bias opinions to run their emotions.

Why would you call someone bias for looking at Kovacic outscoring and outassisting Mason Mount handsomely, doing more defending, controlling the midfield and concluding that Kovacic is better than Mount

The mad one is you, going off hype and shakushaku and ignoring rational facts

popizaino:
Ibime is still yet to tell us what happened to Barcelona with Xavi without iniesta


Emphasis on 2010 UCL semifinals.

Same thing that happened in 2009 except this time the referee favoured the other side unlike Ovebro

Adiwana:
Xavi was never a defensive midfielder. Busquet has always been a lone DM. Barca played practically a flat 4-3-3 often switching to a kind of 4-4-2 diamond most times with Messi playing mostly as a false 9. What are you talking about?

Essien and Ballack were not defensive midfielders either and Chelsea played 4-3-3 with Lampard and Essien/Ballack supported by Makelele

You don't need to play with semantics to know the meaning of my statement. Xavi was the deeperlying of the two, and the one who comes to collect ball from the defence, so in relation to Iniesta, he was a defensive midfielder.

That much is evident in their touch volume and where they receive the ball. The below picture is very recognisable as to their relative positions on the pitch.

Watching Henderson yesterday, and his loss of speed and physical decline over the last two years remind me of Sir Alex Ferguson's statement 10 years ago that Henderson has problem with his running technique which will cause injury problems and decline later. I remember how Gerrard and Brendan Rodgers attacked Fergie then instead of focussing on the message. Fergie was a visionary TBH

popizaino:
Continuation

Yeah, we saw how tikitaka disappeared after Xavi left the scene

popizaino:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/957325


Excerpt from the link above. Notice how it was all about how Iniesta is very vital not xavi.

Another affidavit

Every player has affidavit

In the words of Mourinho, when asked why Madrid cannot overtake Barca - "Xavi will retire one day"

raumdeuter:
Who is the defensive midfielder?

The deeplying of the two. You know the one who comes to receive the ball from defence while shakushaku master will be up the pitch and cannot score or assist?

raumdeuter:
How many goals and assists to win this La liga player of the year in 2006 when they won the CL

2005

13 assists

Debroslink:
But we should praise Lamfraud because of this below

Lampard has as many World Cup goals as Iniesta. Take it to VAR

Now tell us about goals in Euros

Debroslink:
Show us our UCL winning 2005/06 of Xavi, you dey trash talk. Xavi had ACL, yet he made WC team. This shows he played a couple of games for Barcelona. Show us his stats, you dey play scam like Lamfraud.

The scam is you saying Xavi only had one assist in 05/06 to absolve your Eunuchs impotence, when as a Barca fan you should know he missed most of the season with ACL injury. He returned for some substitute appearances just before the end of the season, which is how he was able to make Spain World Cup squad.

Anytime you need affidavit to defend an attacking player, just know you have failed.

If Chelsea AM produce this kain of numbers for a full calendar year, just know he is going on loan to Championship the next season. Even Gallagher won't try this

How can I be your defensive midfielder and still outassist and outscore you handsomely

That's like Kovacic affecting games more than Mount.

I make 100 passes per game, you make 60 passes per game, they attachè you to my work saying XaviEsta control midfield. After I pack up, you fail to control games anymore

I defend for you, control midfield for you, cook for you, score for you, assist for you, on both club and international level, while your job is to shakushaku like Spanish Kovacic

Ini-fraud!

Debroslink:
Don't be a scam. Kindly upload for Xavi 2005/06 season that we won UCL and La liga trophies.

I have shown you the year he won La Liga POTY, you are asking for another year.

Xavi had ACL injury in 05/06 and did not play many games. You think he is like Iniesta that will play over 365 days with no goal or assist?

You don't even know your own club history, fake boy

Debroslink:
Someone won 2005 Spanish POTY on the same season he provided 0 goal and 1 assist for the whole season. What a scam!.

Lies can only get you so far in life. The only nigga we know for dropping binary numbers is Eunuch Iniesther

IjeBos:
I must be naive. I would never have imagined that I could be on a Nigerian forum and a black Nigerian is propagating a racist trope about Obama's wife. That someone could be that uninformed and/or hate themselves and people that look like them that much that they are serving as a useful idiot to advance racist narratives. Some things still shock me.

Being an American Republican is a complete waste of a grown man's time these days

Political discourse is reduced to whether Michelle Obama is a man, whether Obama was born in Kenya, whether Pelosi was fúcking a man, whether Dominion voting machine was hijacked by Venezuela, whether Hunter Biden was viewing child porn, whether Hilary was sacrificing children. . . something, something, Fauci

Look what Trump introduced into politics.

American and Umudike Republicans alike will need psychological evaluation after this phase of politics is over

raumdeuter:
What was Xavi doing in Barcelona before 2008. Just warming the bench

All Barcelona coaches for 8yrs could not find any use for Xavi even when there is an important match

I didn't know you can win La Liga Spanish Player of the year in 2005 from the bench, not to talk of playing 54 games from the bench in 07/08. Agenda dead on arrival.

raumdeuter:
At 2008 Barcelona already decided Xavi was a liability and were about to ship him to Bayern until Pep came and insisted on Xavi

Barcelona didn't decide anything

Xavi wanted to leave as he felt he was better than what Rijkaard prioritised

He went to Euro 2008 and proved it, winning the best player of the tournament

How can Pep then walk in and get rid of the best midfielder in Europe

Before Iniesta ever dreamed of any accolades, Xavi has won La Liga Spanish POTY in 2005 and European Championship Player of the tournament 2008

Iniesta started winning shit in 2009 AFTER Xavi set the template in 2008 and after Xavi already had a couple of honours to his name

popizaino:
Portugal Euro 2004

Pull out Lampard goal contribution in this tournament and show me one tournament Iniesther ever matched that

Unlimited22:
They won't tell you Morocco applied to Join ECOWAS in 2017.

Anywhere belle face?

I always said that an unproductive AM like Iniesta will take any team toward relegation if not for teammates carrying him along and making the difference with the goals and assists that win games

Vissel Kobe in Japan have seen the reality

Never compare a carryalong to a difference maker. Iniesta will be a complete nobody without Messi and Xavi

Japanese paid big money for a fraud who was carried his whole career, only to suffer buyers remorse. This is Iniestas reality without the match winners that made him

Barcelona with over 100 league goals in a calendar year

Over 200 opportunities for an AM to make a goal contribution

Iniesta, do you want any goal or assist inside?

Debroslink:
Even in 2012, Iniesta was Euro's best.

Kindly tell us how many assist or goal Iniesta contributed in that tournament?

Zero

Iniesther is the biggest fraud and carryalong in the history of professional football

An AM that will ghost all tournament while his teammates are cooking.

The only thing Iniesta has ever done in International football is score a 1v1 with the goalkeeper after being carried all tournament.

Iniesta is a case of "If you take a horse to the stream every game, one day he will drink". That's why a Eunuch with the goal record of a centreback and the assist record of a defensive midfielder will have one or two things to show when others take him to finals consistently.

This is how Xavi gave Iniesta an International career:

Xavi:

7 goals and assists in Spain knockout matches including 3 assists in finals.

2008 Euro final vs Germany 1-0 - xavi assist,
2012 Euro final vs Italy 4-0 - two xavi assists,
2010 WC semi vs Germany 1-0 - xavi assist,
2010 WC QF vs portugal - 1-0 xavi assist.
2010 WC 2nd round vs Paraguay, 1-0 - xavi assist


Iniesta:

2008 Euros - 3-0 win Vs Russia - Iniesta assist in a match they were comfortable

2010 - 1 World Cup final goal after being carried along all tournament with no contribution.

Show me one Iniesta contribution in knockout stage of International tournaments apart from this

While Xavi was producing the match winning efforts in all the tight games, the horse was being carried to the stream time and again and not contributing nothing until Fabregas gave him an easy layup in WC final

For Barcelona, Xavi provided the midfield domination with 100 passes per game while Iniesta could barely top 60. Messi and co provided the goals while Iniesther entertained himself with dribbles like Kovacic, providing neither the goals nor the midfield domination that made Barca successful. After Xavi packed up, Barca midfield domination evaporated. It took MSN to emerge 3 years later to blow teams away with a combined 122 goals before Barca could win again. I emphasise this point - MSN scored 122 goals between them in 2014-15, same time Iniesta went one calendar year without a single assist in the league. Spell carryalong for me.

The biggest fraud in the history of frauds, the biggest carryalong in the history of carryalongs, and the luckiest footballer in history. Someone who is no better than Kovacic at anything in football

Debroslink:
2006, while Xavi was dropping 0 goal and 1 assist a whole season in UCL and La liga wins, young Iniesta produced a better stats and helping Barca in UCL final.

Iniesta produced 6 assists in UCL, Barca won treble, and Xavi was rooted on the bench with seat belt. Iniesta won MOTM in the presence of MSN in UCL without Xavi.

Iniesta made 2015 UEFA team of the year without Xavi
Show us a tournament where Xavi made all-star team without Iniesta.

For 10 seasons, Xavi was always in the shadows of Rivaldo, Figo, Deco, Ronaldinho. Even Van Bommel that spent one season outshone Xavi.

All the noise of Xavi is from 2008-2012. Even in 2012, Iniesta was Euro's best.

Shut up about what Iniesta won after Xavi gave him life

Show.me what Iniesta achieved before 2008 when Xavi made him.

You said Xavi did nothing before 2008, then start telling me about nonsense Iniesta won after 2008

Xavi kicked off the run and set the template in 2008

Show me any individual award Iniesta has before Xavi started cooking food for him from this tournament here

Debroslink:
Xavi was there when Rivaldo and Figo ruled. Both left, and Barca couldn't trust Xavi to run the midfield. They had to buy Ronaldinho and Deco. Van Bommel also came to run my midfield. Despite having over 150 caps for Barca, Spain couldn't trust him to handle the midfield, so he was benched in Euro 2004. Barca won UCL and La liga in 2006 but Xavi could only contribute 0 goal and 1 assist.

After 10 years as a passenger in Barcelona, the rise of prime Iniesta in 2008 gave Xavi's career a boost. All the noise of Xavi was from 2008 - 2012.

Where was Iniesta from 2002 to 2008 until Xavi gave him career?

Your agenda won't work

When they made Xavi the focal point of Spain and Barca midfield, both teams went into stratosphere, carrying the unproductive Eunuch Iniesther along

Xavi was the golden ball of Euro 2008, that was the start of the domination with Xavi at the vanguard, while Iniesta was nobody in that tournament

After Xavi achilles packed up, Barca could no longer dominate midfield. They tried for years to get Iniesta to play Xavi position, Iniesta just didn't have it

Iniesta is Spanish Kovacic, dribbling upandan with no end product

This is where Xavi gave Iniesta career in Euro 2008. Pep copied Aragones and the rest is history.

God doesn't like ugly.

These men must surely lose

The man God has chosen to protect The GOAT from the midget

Let thy will be done o Lord

forgiveness:
The coach made a big blunder by substituting Saka.

Dude was second best player on the pitch behind Bell.

Big big blunder