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donstan18:
Bant aside, what’s good about Tuchel?

Is he tactical?
Is he reliable?
Can he handle stars?
Who was he before Chelsea?

I will answer when you tell me the last time you played 6 finals in 12 months.

I have never considered Chelsea more than a top4 team since 2010. Not even when Mourinho and Conte won titles, I knew it was an overachievement and their inability to maintain it proved that given we had so many weaknesses. So far he's achieved top4 while winning some cups and reaching regular finals, he is over performing.

swiz123:
29 goals and assist, trophy less season and fighting for top 4. I can spot William pro max by a mile.

Shey Havertz is not in the same team?

If they all had 29 GA, maybe we would be doing better

donjazet:
Why all these noise sef??

This game was an evenly matched game. We always knew finals like this would be won by slim margins.

With both sides having almost equal amount of possession and chances. That's how any final is, and when you consider that this Liverpool are actually better than us in terms of developed squad and longer coaching, you see that Tuchel is doing a very fine job.

All those hating on mount should cease doing so immediately, before this season, mount, havertz and many of our attackers had very very shambolic numbers but this season, we have 5 players with more than 15g\a. Showing that our oversaturation of attackers have kinda worked against us, with very few players having enough game time to singularly accumulate those numbers. They've all improved. Their numbers reflect this. From ziyech to havertz to mount to even Werner with his limited time but I digress..

Tuchel and this boys have done us very proud this season, no other team would continue to deliver this much high quality performances after the kind of disaster that struck the entire upper management. We got to the UCL quarters, something we've struggled to do in the last 10 years. We got to both finals, something many clubs can only dream of getting to, and we're the third best team in the league. A position we've struggled to attain in several years.

Let's not forget that this is how kloop also began his reign at Liverpool and now they're a quadruple seeking team. Tuchel is the absolute best for us.

Our core group of young players can only get better. They have now been tested at the highest levels. These 22 and 23 year olds will only get better and better and become the best for us. Let's stop hating on this boys. They are all doing very well.

Any Chelsea fan wanting Tuchel out never serious

Exonerate1:
Took them from 16th to 16th. He really saved them

His points record with them will land them in a comfortable midtable finish. Yes he did save them after they could only gather 5 points in their preceding 15 games. Only Burnley form which is a top 4 form recently made it look dicey.

zendi:
Just as US had freedom to deal with Cuba as they pleased during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Just as the US had the liberty also to bully Noriega of Granada, Saddam Hussein and Mohama Ghadaffi.

A shame these are all dictatorships. Neither did the US annex any of their territories

It is one thing going against a dictator in your region and another going against the people's democratic will

And Noriega is Panama

benalvino3:
Putin has medical condition. I heard it's blood cancer... It makes him more dangerous and volatile.

There's nothing dangerous about the man. Las las he get sense, or he would have bombed Kyiv to smithereens by now and damn the International condemnation. He is still trying to play within the rules because he knows the cost.

zendi:
To add to the dangerous escalations, Britain has already piggybacked Sweden and Finland into NATO by rushing to forge a Defence Pact with them.
Now if you attack Finland, Britain will come.
If you attack Britain, NATO will come.
Western leaders are desperate to find out how a nuke armed person reacts to being lynched.

Sweden and Finland are Western democracies and have always been. It is their right to choose any partners they want if they feel threatened and don't want to be dragged into the poverty and oppression of the Soviet Union. Many of us have visited Sweden and many have visited Lapland in Finland to see Santa and Europe will not write off Sweden and Finland like some commie Soviet backwater.

Anything wey Russia want do, make dem do, but Western democracies will never be slaves to backward regimes. Nuke goes both ways. All die na die. Highest the thing kills in microseconds. Finland ain't scared of that. Any nuke dropped on Finland will kill most Russians of cancer within 5 years. Bully boy tactics to scare people from exercising their democratic will will not work. Most Europeans will rather die.

zendi:
Sovereign rights[/b] that risk sparking a nuclear war must be [b]forfeited.[/b

In other words, Russia is free to invade and do as they please with any of their neighbours

The fact is people will always gravitate towards prosperity, and Putin will always have a problem with that.

basilico:
In the Donbass region Eastern Ukraine Ukraine defense forces and Aztov has been shelling the russians for 8 years now.
Was only a matter of time before russian forces took action, signs have been there.
Aztov is a NAZI org
Nato wants to a place to install missile shield to deter against a possible Russian attack. A defensive shield does not take days to be offensive

Ukraine has never shelled any Russian. Stop parroting nonsense. Ukraine has been fighting seperatists within their borders sponsored by Russia since 2014. You seem to have a problem with the inviolable right of any country to protect it's territorial integrity against internal actors. Not one Ukrainian soldier has stepped foot in Russian territory.

basilico:
Aztov battalion. incorporated into Ukraine forces have rained missiles on russia funded disidents for 8 years.
Factor that in. They are modern day Nazis. Aztov battalion

What I been seeing on TV is Ukrainians gloating about downing Russian planes. how many of their army have been casualties.
russia controls east and south of Ukraine except for Aztov battalion hiding in nuclear prepared underground caves in a steel plant where they took civilians to those enclaves.

When Russia took missiles to Cuba the US resisted. Why should NATO put missile defensive shield. Remember a defensive shield can be changed to offensive.

I do not support russia by the way. If you sponsor my enemy fighting for my land You become my enemy.

Russia needs a sea port to the Caspian sea too. Crimea they took it over. with this nonsense they have taken eastern ukraine and created a supply corridor to resupply Crimea.The Ruskies have Mariupol in their hands.
From there they can fend off attacks all way to turkey bosphorous.

Ukraine have a right to fight seperatists within their borders any day any time. You are just trumpeting your Russian algorithms.

Yes the Aztov batallion of 2,500 men may be Nazis but when a country goes to war, everybody in the country goes to war, both the Nazis, Communists, Buddhists, Christian and Animists, and you will find the most militant on the frontlines. Russia has many Nazis too and you won't want to be caught alone at night on the streets in Russia as a black man either.

At the end of the day, whatever Russia achieves in Ukraine is already phyrric. They can neither Govern nor control Ukraine and they have lost Ukraine forever while becoming a hermit state with a lot of economic woes to unwind over the coming years.

donjazet:
Jorginho outperformed every single player on the pitch today bar Arnold the motm.
Jorginho was Chelsea's best player today and let's not forget how he cooly slotted in his last pen that gave us a fighting chance to win this cup.

He did well from halftime on. He's a tournament player, only good for sitting back, not robust enough to provide consistency for a team on the front-foot looking to win every game. The criticism still stands. Thiago outpassed him 2 to 1 and Hendo outpassed him handsomely.

philip0906:
Now you’re feigning ignorance about not knowing what a decisive kick his just to push your Pount narrative and give him undue glory.

Heck, coaches literally have penalty gameplays where certain players who are deemed “very good” take the last or first kick.

All of a sudden, Ibime doesn’t know what a decisive kick is. Lmao!

Mount kick in SuperCup final was decisive as the 4th penalty to ensure Havertz decisive first kick didn't haunt us.

Like I said, penalty is anybody's game. I have seen Baggio singlehandedly carry Italy to World Cup final scoring all knockout round goals only to miss his pk in the final.

Enjoy your trolling for tonight but don't get uptight and serious with infantile narratives about penalty kick because Havertz scored penalty against Palmeiras. Trolling is allowed, foolishness is not

Havertz missed in final, Mount missed in final. Havertz scored in final, Mount scored in final. Anelkas penalty miss was as important as Terrys. Mounts goal vs Villarreal was as important as Havertz vs Palmeiras. We will not hail Havertz for scoring penalty which most players score, and leave Lukaku who scored open play goal or Azpi who won the penalty just to fit your childish narrative.

philip0906:
Havertz kick was not a decisive one. That trophy we won, we won because Kepa saved the important kick (he saved 2). No go carry him shine give your Pount abeg.

At the club World Cup, Havertz had the decisive kick to give us the trophy and make us avoid a penalty shootout.

You done dey speak English

Which kick in a shootout is not decisive?

Thank Mount your Lord and Saviour for scoring his penalty to give you narrative and allow you to speak English about decisive

Havertz10:
at least his miss didn’t cost us the cup

Thanks to Mount his Lord and Saviour

Una go soon tire for infantile narratives

philip0906:
Kepa won us that trophy, don’t be cunning. Your Pount lost today a decisive kick. Havertz scored a decisive kick at the Club World Cup. You should be the quiet one…You stan a mid.

What is won us that trophy?

Since you reduce argument to infantile comparison, I am paying you in your own coin

Lukaku scored open play goal, na Havertz una credit for taking penalty, not even Azpi that won the penalty.

Since you say Mount lost penalty in major final, I have showed you that Havertz also missed in major final. Since you say Havertz scored penalty in major final, I have showed you that Mount also scored in major final (to bail out Havertz)

You want us to do somersault and create narrative because Havertz scored penalty that most players have 80% chance of converting, which Mount also did in another final; and because Mount missed penalty that Havertz also missed in a major final. Your chi will judge you.

philip0906:
We’re giving credit to players who convert their spot kicks and get us trophies. You’re running around the bush. One player has cost us today ina final. The other player in a final, scored his.

We should then hail Mount for scoring his penalty in Super Cup final to give us trophy after Havertz missed.

You think say you wise. Be quiet.

EmmanuelScott1:
let's talk about bottling six of them, the fact is the six was at Wembley(his country).

Others should reach finals with 3 seperate teams

Maybe na Chelsea dey carry them along

philip0906:
You didn’t add the one that Havertz scored at the club World Cup? Or you must balance it? Lmaoo

So we are now giving credit to players for scoring 50% of their penalties

Which penalty taker do you know at any club with 50% conversion rate that didn't have penalty duties stripped from them

Rest.

Debroslink:
Choked in those games with 0 goal, 0 assist and was a carry along.

Iniesta at age 31 was UCL 2015 MOTM

That should be the season he went one calendar year with zero goals and zero assists

Let's thank God for the power of carryalong. Not every player is so lucky

EmmanuelScott1:
Mason Mount has now lost 6 consecutive finals at Wembley stadium.

This is nothing but a mad joke.

Reaching 9 finals with 3 different teams by the age of 23 means he must be bringing something to his teams. Another angu to consider

philip0906:
If na by that one, Havertz scored the WINNING GOAL.

The context here, is penalty. Pount has cost us 2 trophies by missing his kick. Havertz gave us the Club World Cup by converting his kick.

Which other PK did Mount miss in final?

Score na 1-1 for PK final misses. Rest.

Debroslink:
5 UEFA finals did Lampard play and he choked in all of them bar 2008 which he still lost.

Story to console yourself.

Lampard is a UCL final goalscorer, UCL winner, UEL winner, played 3 penalty shootouts and scored in all

And his first final was at the age of 30

philip0906:
One has given you winning goals in the finals, the other has cost you 2.

Rest. Havertz also missed a good chance in Carabao.

Both have missed penalties in finals.

Both have GA in UCL final

Debroslink:
Let's talk about choking in major finals. Don't you see some similarities between the two? One in domestic level, while the other is in UEFA level.

Choking in major finals while scoring in one UCL final and winning the other

Rest

philip0906:
Havertz scored the winning penalty at the club World Cup. Which trophy winning penalty has Pount scored?

Story. They both missed in final.

Debroslink:
Ibime, do you see the similarities between Mount and Lampard?

Which pen did Lampard miss in final?

philip0906:
This is not a one off man. Pount has cost us twice now. And oh! Whenever Kepa saves, we win trophies. Mendy’s save is useless now.

Havertz also missed his pen in Super Cup final. Nobody holy pass. Enjoy your evening

Expert17:
Triple LLL for Donstan18

Klopp won
Pount missed his PK
Balon d'Or Mane missed his PK

This is a loud L

philip0906:
Your Pason Pount has cost us 2 finals now. Tomorrow he’ll score against Wycombe and una go dey hype am.

I have never killed players for penalty shootout miss. One man must suffer

At least Mendy did something unlike Kepa wey no touch 11 penalties against this same team

lol. Food for leprous fingers

FA cup is not for us

I'm out. . . .

lol. RLC on and off.

Timo is shaky with penalties, no need bringing him on at this stage

philip0906:
Lmao! Kepa has literally given us trophies by saving penalties. He has a better penalty save rate than Mendy. We’re not gambling with this.

No be gamble. Mendy is surer and was the hero of Senegals penalty victories. Kepa did not inspire any fear in Pool players last time out with his small frame. Mendy fills the goal. Yesterday's price is not today's price. Mendy has worked on his pens as evident with Senegal