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Trevor012:
I have never seen anybody die from Malaria in Nigeria.

You've not heard of cerebral malaria when the infection enters your brain. My popsie said I had it as a child and nearly died, though I don't remember.

I know two Nigerians who died of malaria in my lifetime, one of my sister friend at school which cane as surprise, and my uncle died in his late 70s from it earlier this year. I suspect a lot of old people still die from malaria but it will be attributed to old age rather than the malaria. It may also be involved in many child mortality cases but na ogbanje dem go blame.

I know of only one white guy who caught malaria when he went volunteering in Sierra Leone. Fell ill when he returned to UK, and was flown to South Africa for treatment where he passed. Na that time I know say white man dey fear malaria cos why could the UK doctors not just give him antimalarials and drips here. Even when you read of those olden day Mungo Park people, malaria dey kill dem like fowl. Na why WHO dey fear malaria.

NinjaXmetahuman:
we are already at that stage in Nigeria though

Life Kuku no to get meaning here.

Naija has many other things that can kill.you jare

Even Malaria is more deadly than Covid.

NinjaXmetahuman:
Na so.

It's time to stop the over reaction and treat covid like common flu.

They should just vaccinate old people or people likely to do die from covid every year and let sick people stay at home instead of trying to put life on hold everytime there is spike in covid cases.

Covid is not going anywhere anytime soon. Time to move on and let out body get used to it like every other pathogens.

We are getting to this stage eventually

MorataFC:
OK, I get it, but the government (or W.H.O.)should take the bold step and tell us the truth that vaccination or no vaccination will not stop u from contracting the virus.

It will but it has time limit. And if you catch it, you'll likely fare better. If they do what you suggested above, it will be a disaster. Vaccine has saved many lives, especially old people. They have done their job.

They don't tell old people twice to line up for Flu vaccine every winter in UK. When you see your age mates dying of common flu, you will not think twice of returning for vaccine every year. Some even still catch flu that same winter. There's a cultural difference between young people and old people as regards expectations from vaccine and difference between countries used to dealing with flu and those who don't have flu. Old people are not questioning the covid booster shot in UK, they are lining up 1 million a day for booster shot. They were dying like fowl before, then stopped dying after the first round of vaccine. Dem no go tell them twice.

MorataFC:
Pls, I don't get dis part, I thought the vaccine is once in a life time, does it mean that the vaccine lost its effectiveness after a period of time?

Coronaviruses do not stay in one place, they mutate frequently, that's why we have a new flu vaccine every winter (Flu is a coronavirus). So nobody should have expected lifetime vaccine.

donjazet:
Haba!! The whole thing now just tire person. So much inconsistency with the messaging.
Initially, when the thing first started and people were rushing facemasks, health professionals actually came out and said face masks would not counteract the spread effectively, effectively warning against it.

Then everybody was really apprehensive about this COVID something, not knowing what to make of it.
Then they said vaccines would solve the problem.

People started taking the vaccines, then they started talking about a second dose and booster shot. Now, even that is not enough, they're talking about a third booster shot again.

What's to say, they won't be a fourth and fifth booster shot. The whole thing is just tiring.

All these for a virus that has a less than 2% mortality rate. You have an extremely high chance of surviving this naturally than even having cold.
We didn't even do all these things for ebola and we got over it. It's not making sense.

If they told you vaccine would only last a few months initially, would you have taken it? It's not Govt job to give you the full picture, if the full picture will lead to public health consequences such as low uptake of vaccine. If you are smart enough, you should be able to put 2 and 2 together to know what the facts are, and why Govts give the kind of messaging they do. It's not a lie, it's Govt acting in the best interest of the whole population. Don't be like the GQP people who take anything they can't understand as Govt lying to them.

I said here that any vaccine will only last few months and would need to be taken frequently. Coronaviruses do not stay in one place, they mutate frequently, that's why we have a new flu vaccine every winter (Flu is a coronavirus). So nobody should have expected lifetime vaccine.

Ibime:
This vaccine will be a yearly vaccine as antibodies deplete after a few months. My friend who had Covid will be going for her 9 month antibody test soon. She still had antibodies after 6 months, although another colleague who had a mild version of Covid lost his antibodies after 6 months.

I don't know whether Nigeria will be able to afford yearly innoculations. We are not used to organising seasonal vaccination unlike say the UK that organises yearly flu jab and will just add SARS-COV2 vaccine into the flu jab eventually. Na to pray for Bill Gates to sponsor remain.

Ibime:
Vaccine no dey insight jare. Some doctors reinfected themselves multiple times and found that their antibodies disappeared after 3 months. .

lekkie073:
Na wá for this omicron o.

I am already losing hope of any good standing this season

We are all in same boat

BlueRayDick:
Na wa o. So as it stands there is no proven medical solution for this covid-19 wahala ? (By medical solution I mean other methods other than wearing face mask, maintaining social distance , etc )

Vaccine was always going to be seasonal that you take every few months just like flu vaccine

We will live with Covid like flu eventually. When your body has been getting used to a disease, whether via vaccine or infection, it should carry little fear cos your body can deal with it. It's like Naija man catching malaria, his body is used to dealing with it, but if white man catch malaria, it's 50/50 that he could die.

BlueRayDick:
Has ur bro not been vaccinated ?

He has. Vaccine wears off after few months, and Omicron no even send vaccine message

donjazet:
Why don't the players just get vaccinated?? Surely, if all the players and staff get vaccinated, even though they're infected, it's no big deal. And more so, this covid19 just seems way overblown..

If a player has flu, he won't play will he? They are still playing until they cannot put out a full squad, then they cancel the game.

3 of our players have tested positive. This Omicron is everywhere and spreads like wildfire. Even my brother and nephew have it. I don't think EPL will last another 2 weeks.

PDPGuy:
Man Utd v Brighton has now been postponed!

Are we sure we won’t see a league shutdown until next month?

It's looking likely

basilico:
Im an irrational thinker. I dont depend on the mainstream media to form my opinions.
Yes, all those people you mentioned deliberately sabotaged him big. Bigly.

Corrected

basilico:
Thinking we are just going round in circles.
My take is that Trump had lots of enemies within GOP not counting the crazy democrats..

That's cos your are paranoid and because he was a crazy man trying to break system that has worked for centuries.

To the point you even think Powell is out to sabotage him in Fed, Fauci sabotaging him in health, Supreme Court sabotaging him in law, Pentagon sabotaging him, DOJ and FBI sabotaging him, Kemp sabotaging him in Georgia, McConnell sabotaging him in senate.

He's almost even broken the electoral system over the past year.

America is bigger than one man. Every institution performs their role to make it the most successful country. The crazy idiot should go and sit down.

basilico:
OK. Stock prices reflect the faith investors have in the economy. Tesla is overpriced IMO and built on shaky sand if climate change has not been promoted to a religion.

Stock prices also reflect how cheap money is and how much money is floating around (money supply). The last 10 years reflect this phenomenon more than faith in the economy.

Fed printed $1trln bank bailouts and another $1trln stimulus in response to 2009 recession and fed dropped rates. That money has been floating in the system pumping prices into bubble territory from Obama's 2nd term into Trump 1st term.

During the pandemic when GDP has been crashing, stockmarket has continued climbing to all-time highs because one quarter of all dollars in circulation were printed last year. Does it look like stockmarket is reflecting the faith in the wider economy to you? So you can see how irresponsible it is for a President to be tweeting about stockmarket upandan that is just in a bubble.

Don't bring politics into economics. Presidents are simply witnesses to economic cycles in America, they are not the protagonists of boom or bust. Economic cycles last 7 years. The system gets overheated every 7 years by one bubble or another, and Fed fixes it, setting up another 7 guaranteed years of prosperity. System is bigger than any man.


https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/economic-cycle.asp

basilico:
Tesla vehicles would not have moved as much were it not for people with more disposable incomes, generally from other economic sectors.

Tesla vehicles ain't moving to cause a 10x jump in Share price. Tesla pump was irrational. You can't have a company with $700m profit and attribute $1 trillion valuation to moving cars. Tesla was a bubble pump.

Trump economy talks is neither here nor there. Economic cycles always last 7 years minimum extending to 10 years max, so coming from the recession of 2009, he was always going to have an easy ride but pandemic konked his head on the way out. George Bush had a rough ride, starting in 2001 when Tech bubble and 9/11 started a recession, and finishing with a recession in 2008 due to Housing bubble which had started building in August 2007. Bill Clinton had the easiest ride. He started just after the 1992 recession and finished just before the 2001 recession. Clinton was the most economically successful President for that reason, as job numbers show below

basilico:
You are correct about cheap credit. After Trump came in the recession was over (thank Obama) The Feds raised rates because the economy was booming. (Do I hear Trump Worst president ever)

Note that Tesla stocks are high because climate change is getting hindreds of billions from Joe Biden plus the govts that want to ban fossil fuell.

Tesla's profit last year of $500m won't be achieved without selling Carbon credits. Tesla would actually be lossmaking or break-even without selling Carbon credits. Last time I checked Trump was President then.

Tesla share-price did 10x last year from March to December under Trump Presidency. Elon Musk quickly gave himself sense and cashed out 10% of his shares at all time high disguising it under an argument with Bernie Sanders about tax.

Trump was irresponsible constantly tweeting about Dow Jones performance when growth was due to an asset bubble. I've hardly seen a President be that irresponsible to turn that into a performance KPI. All it will do it incentivise Presidents to keep stockmarket bubbles going increasing the threat to the overall economy when they eventually pop. If I'm Biden I will try to keep pumping up the bubble make e no spoil for my hand, let the next President deal with the pop.

basilico:
I standby my asserion deluded conspiracy. The Fed Reserve did everything to sabotage Trump

Corrected.

You continued with your conspiracy even when your data showed interest payment increase on National debt was not that significant, and even when explained that Fed rate is not the interest rate on Govt bonds. That's how Conspiratorial minds work.

Fed raises fed rate when economy is doing well or inflation is running amok. Economy was back on its feet after the 2008-2009 recession. Why should any Fed keep interest rate at zero. All countries increased interest rates. When rates are kept at zero, credit becomes cheap and bubbles are created which will burst one day. We are in a bubble right now from all the cheap credit from 2009 recession response building up to last year's dropping of interest rates in reaction to the pandemic. Companies whose profit has barely doubled in the last 10 years have seen their share prices increase tenfold. Look at Tesla, a company with $500m yearly profit and $1 trillion valuation.

What that means is too much money chasing too few assets. Money is available because credit is cheap (interest rates are zero) so assets are overpriced. Infact, Fed has a big decision to make on how to bring back reality slowly without popping the balloon.

basilico:
In other words the Fed rate has nothing to do with balooning total debt. I dont know how it works to the detail But I do know the Fed rate has a Bearing on the total debt.
Trump rising total national debt had a lot to do with the Fed rate.Pre the covid outbreak.

You can deny this.

If you buy a Govt bond at 1.7% yield, that 1.7% is what the Govt pays to service that debt, not the Fed rate.

Correlation between Fed Rate and Treasury Yield has been weak over the last decade or two. There is a very long term correlation between Treasury Yield and Fed Rate but that's another chapter.

basilico:
I could say the Feds was on a sabotage mission
Remember that interest on debt is the fourth largest expenditure in a fiscal year budget. Medicaid/Social Security, Defence and War expenditure are the top three in no order followed by this interest.

Don't say this where educated people are.

Fed rate is not set based on conspiracies. Fed rate is set based on inflation and money supply, to incentivise saving or spending as the case may be, not because of no bloody conspiracy against Trump. Rates usually drop during a recession to incentivise spending to jumpstart the economy, and pick back up as the economy improves to incentivise saving and cushion against inflation and overheating. Fed rate is not even the cause of the interest in the first place, but the Treasury bond yields.

basilico:
Take an average of total debt at 19T for both years (assume no increase in principal debt ) and respective interest rate from Feds.

2017 Fed Rate Dec 2016 is 0.55% . Amounts to roughly 100B

2018 Fed rate Dec 2017 is 1.30%. Amounts to roughly 247B.

Not actual figures but you hopefully can see what a percentage point of a close to 20T adds to interest expense
I could say the Feds was on a sabotage mission
Remember that interest on debt is the fourth largest expenditure in a fiscal year budget. Medicaid/Social Security, Defence and War expenditure are the top three in no order followed by this interest.

You just showed the actual interest, you still dey calculate ontop.

Your premise is even faulty. The interest is calculated on Treasury yield rate not Fed rate

basilico:
Trump increased national debt partly as a result of the huge debt Obama left him and a huge chunk because if the Federal Reserve rate. The data you provided trues to hide the real interest rate Fed Reserve imposed as soon as Obama left office.
A table of intetest expense repayment below. Notice during Obama the interests were low despite him increasing the national debt.
Under Obama the rate was 0.2 going to 0.05 then rising to 0.55 by end 2016. Under Trump interests were .55 rising to 2.55 and finally dropping to zero levels during the onset of the pandemic.

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/ir/ir_expense.htm

Obama interest expense in 2017 = $458b
Trump interest expense in 2018 = $523b

Difference of $65bln

The gap in their deficits is much wider than that. Men lie, women lie, numbers don't.

Republicans only remember debt when they are out of power. In power, they perform worse than democrats from a fiscal perspective.

That jump is not high enough to kill on impact.

Android17:
Well, Southampton no be Olu Olu & Sons. Willy will still earn taaazands of pounds per week.

The Wimbledon he was training at since Chelsea released him in May till 2 weeks ago is Olu Olu and Sons. He tried. To get released at 40 with no club forthcoming, and refuse to retire, going to non-league club to be diving around in the mud, cold and rain. Man is dedicated.

popizaino:
Coming off the bench to assist in the winning goal against Watford, played a key part in the win against high flying man city side at the etihad that ensured we went top of the league, maybe the bench player was more influential than a regular player just maybe.

Bench player they bring on either when game is won or when everybody is tired and sit him as AM in a 3-5-2. When they gave him starting shirt, he sent Chelsea to Europa

Android17:
If you get cousin for ExxonMobil aged 40 will you tell him to retire because he has earned alot of money?

Football is physical work. Body no be firewood.

If Mobil retire you with enough money not to work again, will you go and join Olu Olu and Sons to be pushing borehole like the guys below?

popizaino:
Yeah at least he once helped him to the league title and maybe if Costa was not replaced with Morata by silly Conte you would have had a point though .

More like Matic while Fabregas was bench player

popizaino:
Yeah......i have kante to help out. My idea midfielder should be able to make use of the ball first before anything. Of what important is marking when you would still lose the ball ?

Kante could not help Fabregas from sending Chelsea to Europa League

BlueMann:
I remember you weren't sold on him one time. Nice to see he's won you over.

Yeah, only saw him that one game under Lampard when he was 17

Android17:
you never tire?

Just learned he was training at Wimbledon when Southampton picked him up two weeks ago after McCarthy injury. What will carry such an established old man to be jumping around in the mud and cold at Wimbledon? The guy no just gree retire

BlueMann:
Broja should be on 4 PL goals now; a decent return considering he's made few starts. Add a handful in other competitions and for Albania, and he should be in double digits already.

The boy is good. We would have been fine with just Havertz and Broja as strikers

popizaino:
so you know he is good on the ball , why do you think I was one time clamouring for him to be put in the midfield? I have seen him playing there for Ac Milan and he did well.

How will a 37 year old man play midfield? Energy has never been important to you in midfield that's why you love Mikel, Busquet, Fabregas, Carrick