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NextD18:
It is not digression when you leave the point of argument to call Mata a nonentity, but it's digression when I start stating how a nonentity bodied and statistically bullied LampFraud throughout his stay at Chelsea.


Fact don't lie, it can only choke.

He was a nonentity in our UCL run.

A shame that a 34 year old DM Lampard will be remembered as key to our UCL run while a prime Mata was a complete nonentity toward winning UCL and since you want to digress, the same Mata has since been a nonentity and flop at Manure in his prime years. 7 years a flop. No statistics you will mention about Mata at Chelsea that Lampard did not beat in his prime, and without being a passenger like Mata was, leading us to 6th position while claiming awoof assists in small games.

NextD18:
A nonentity that bodied your Lampard throughout his stay in Chelsea.

A nonentity that took freekick role from him.

A nonentity that won Chelsea best player that season.

A nonentity that had higher total rating than Lampard that season.

A nonentity that had 32 G/A that season without penalties, more than Lampard.

A nonentity that made Lampard so useless that all his stats that season were penalty-dependent.

Even Lampard as a Chelsea coach has lost more games to Mata.

Mata >>>> Lampard throughout his[Mata] stay at Chelsea.

yen, yen, yen. Keep digressing away from your mans uselessness in our UCL run. Like I said, go and sück the Manure flops dïck in Manchester, we are here to discuss his utter unimportance in our UCL run of 2012. It's like his sale is still paining you, and after 7 years of being a scummy flop, you can't let it go.

NextD18:
Firstly, you are not suppose to post selective stats because it's a thing of teenagers to post stats, according to you.

Secondly, we must count all the games we played because without Genk, we wouldn't have gotten the points that helped boosted us.

The fact that you keep typing about Genk without even talking about Leverkusen and Valencia games further proved my earlier stance that they were tough games.

3 games can't win UCL trophy, 13 games will.

From Napoli through Benfica through Barcelona to Bayern, your man was a nonentity. Congratulations to him for few assists in group stage 5-0 win against Genk, but unfortunately he won't be remembered as being important to our UCL win. These are the facts. Only JT red card or Malouda substitute appearance prevented him being the worst player on the pitch in the key games.

NextD18:
Barcelona and Bayern were the biggest games we played, big games aren't sometimes equivalent to tough games. Maybe we'll use just 3 matches out of 13 games to cancel Mata and then hype an overrated Lampard of 2012

Sorry, we won't use Genk group stage match to rate contribution to our UCL win. Below are the matches that won the UCL and Mata was useless. Go and choke on it.

Some others might get a few months, but this buffoon will get several years in jail

Reality done set for this cultist

Timiofak:
According to inflation, it should be around $25

Biden proposing $15, I don't think it's a one-time thing

I think it's a gradual increase. Look up how minimum wage moved

I believe it would most like move now too I think $9-10

in coming years it should get to $15

So people can ease into it

It should be relative to other Western Countries.

UK minimum wage is equivalent to $12.19 and cost of living is even higher in UK.

France minimum wage is equivalent to $12.21

Worst or 2nd worst player on the pitch in almost every big game. Only a teenager or child will come and tell us different story now. Even with the awoof corner assist vs Bayern which naturally increase your rating, he still managed to put forward the 2nd lowest score.

$15 minimum wage is too much

$12-13 should do it.

Obrigardo:
As more corrupt and treasonous stories of trump keep coming out, the GOP senate is now at a crossroads. Will they vote not to convict trump and lose out in 2022 and ultimately in 2024 again? Siding with trump means you don't value democracy or you just want a dictatorship. How many gop politicians will run on that message?
They should just vote to convict him and throw him away. trump was a disastrous criminal who should never be allowed near any office again, even if it's the local alderman.

Breaking gung hoo story, please read it...

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/22/us/politics/jeffrey-clark-trump-justice-department-election.html

Have they sacked Mr Clark yet? Such despicable anti-democratic weasels within the system should be rooted out within 24 hours of the administration coming in

FBS:
It was my birthday and spent a good part of it ice skating under a beautiful winter weather.

Nothing beats nature.

Happy birthday bro

NextD18:
Shiit upon shiit!
Nothing new, just rinsing and repeating.

Out of all UCL games, this is the best rubbish you could bring, Lampard dispossessing Messi.

Mata statistically bodied Lampard in the UCL that season, in the Epl, Fa Cup and won the best player of the season.

Feel free to brag about being 75 years, the fact remains that Mata your nightmare bodied Lampard in all competitions that season. It's a fact your hate for Mata can't change.

And for your info, Ramirez and Drogba's attacking prowess helped qualified us against Barcelona, not Lampard. Mike, Ramirez and Mata were all better midfielders than that fraud you call Lampard. Him and Terry were just overrated that season. Bye!!!

Look at you ranting emotionally after being soundly schooled on the uselessness of Mata in the UCL campaign.

You've started talking nonsense now. Nobody was arguing with you about Mata's season but his importance in the UCL run.

We've come down to the crunch of the big games against Napoli, Barca, Bayern and shown the important players contribution and you have nothing to say about Matas except regurgitate the same Wikipedia nonsense about his goals and assists in Group stage and league which was not the topic of discussion.

Mata was a nonentity in 2012 UCL win. Go and choke on it. And since you want to throw your toys out the pram, go and sück the Manure flops dick in Manchester.

NextD18:
I said immediately after Benfica's game.

Immediately after that game, all Chelsea midfielders became very useless in their primary duties and resorted to defending.

Mata had an assist in the finals.
Lampard got one against Barca
Ramirez got a goal and an asist against Barcelona.

Where was the rest midfielders?

Aside Ramirez, the rest aforementioned midfielders were even defensively useless.

Remove penalties and you'll see that Lampard was the most useless midfielder in that tournament. 3 goals, 3 assists, 2 penalties, if not 3 sef. How well did he defend?

I might pick Ramirez over Mata in that tournament, aside him, no other midfielder comes close.

Then you are very myopic and talking absolute nonsense of kpoli grade

Mikel, Lampard, Meireles worked their socks off while Mata couldn't cope and was being dragged off for Kalou early in games.

Vs Barcelona first leg, Lampard robbed Messi on a dribble in midfield and played a visionary ball to Ramires on the left wing to cross for Drogba. This is what made the goal, a combination of hustle and vision. Men remember these details while children just reel off nonsense stats vs Genk from Wikipedia. Watch it.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vnbuZUfTNI


2nd leg, he did not just assist Ramires cos someone gave him ball, he robbed Xavi on a dribble to play in Ramires. That's the combination of work and vision these guys were putting in while Mata was causing dangerous overloads and weakness on his side and was a nonentity both attacking and defensive wise.

Both those goals which took us through vs Barca were made by Lampards hustle and vision.

Lampard missed the whole group stage cos he was fighting with AVB, otherwise you won't be bringing Matas inconsequential stats racked up against Genk here

Just keep quiet about Mata in that UCL run. He was a nonentity, and you are just exposing either your age or cluelessness by continuing to push his importance. Someone we celebrated when Kalou was being readied to replace him cos he couldn't cope.

raumdeuter:
The performance of Cole vs Bayern and Barca where he faced Messi and Robben pushed him into the first category for me. I never knew Cole could do those type of "die there" defending that I saw in 2012 knockout. I think Ramires missed the final

That was why my top 5 were Cech, Drogba Lampard Cole and Ivanovic in that order

Ramires scored and assisted in the semi vs Barca. Without Ramires, we won't be talking of facing Bayern.

The players we mentioned here are the key players but Mikel was also key in relieving pressure. Mikel bought a lot of players time to rest in Bayern and Barca game by keeping ball in tight areas under pressure which is his most prominent skill. Without Mikel keeping ball at key times, our other players would have gassed out cos the workload was too much.

All the players above will be mentioned but no one will EVER EVER mention Mata as important unless they were a child or only watched highlights here and there.

NextD18:
I watched that very tournament from the scratch and there's nothing you can gist be about.

Absolutely nothing.

Immediately after Benfica, Chelsea parked the bus till the last minute of that tournament.

No creativity, no good football, nothing nothing.

Just gbao voom kpuaa all through. Because Mata wasn't your typical Chelsea kind of player who's too physical shouldn't give you a reason to count him off. Stats had it that without penalties, no midfielder contributed more than him.

Group games were very tough, very very tough. From Valencia to Leverkusen. I watched them all, no dey count those games off ffs.

Only Barcelona games were tougher and more tasking which Chelsea won by kpoom kpoom kpoom konja way!

Even that Napoli's second leg came as unexpected, nobody alive believed we'll come out of that game.

What and how many attacking impact did the rest midfielders contribute after the Napoli's game. Aside the careless assist Lampard gave Ramirez, what did they do against Barcelona and Bayern? Lying flat in box 18 to defend?

Smh! Na Mou dey cause all these, any midfielder wey no dey play like Sissoko Na flop for una eyes. Stat no even matter for una.

Good. Since you know that it was bus parking from start to finish, tell me what Mata has to contribute to that?

I'm not here to argue about Mata the player. His career speaks for itself, but you will not come and tell us nonsense about who was important in our UCL victory. We were parking bus, and Mata couldn't cope, nor did he have the legs or speed to make any attacking impact from a deep position. Even the passes to Ramires for both goals we scored on counterattack vs Barca came from Lampard. Of what use is a Mata in a team that kept 20% possession? He did not fit, he was causing us defensive issues, and Kalou was a massive improvement on him when he was hauled off for the task at hand, which was working hard and defending well. Mata was absolutely redundant in that system. You can blame the system but facts are facts, and the facts are he was a liability to what won us the UCL.

Simple fact, he was useless in that UCL campaign. Go and celebrate his assists in Group stage against Genk elsewhere. We are here to talk about who was consequential in the UCL victory not who assisted in a 5-0 win vs Genk.

NextD18:
This is actually coming from your personal hate for Mata which I understand because it's not easy to withstand seeing a player you hate win best player for a team you support.

Mata got the stat in that tournament.

Okay fine, you ain't a fan of stat but other contributions which is okay, that one no do you.

Then you resorted into saying we should judge our UCL victory from Napoli's second leg? Like, wtf! We should count off 7 games just to suit you?

How tough was our QF games against Benfica that we should count off our group's games before judging players? Was is tougher than the game Leverkusen won Chelsea with a late strike?

How many games did we even win in the group for you to think it was easy for Chelsea then?

Mata is good, he bodied all our midfielders in that Ucl. Whatever happened or still happening with him and ManU isn't my business.

Nothing to do with hate. I am no fan of Mikel and Ramires but they are in my top 5 elite performers in that UCL campaign.

We were dead and buried in UCL after Napoli first leg which is when AVB got the sack.

Anything else you want to say is for children and Wikipedia revisionists

We grown men know that when we talk about that UCL campaign, we are talking from Napoli 2nd leg when RDM came in onward. We don't even need to count Benfica. Napoli 2nd leg, both legs against Barca and Bayern is what counts and Mata was a liability throughout. You have to have been a MAN to observe that, not a child.

NextD18:
Mata is good, he bodied all our midfielders in that Ucl.

Mad talk. Meireles was more important than Mata before we even come to Ramires, Mikel and Lampard. Bodied ke, with half his goal contribution coming in 5-0 win over Genk in group stage and being a liability when it was time to face men.

I repeat. The reason you have to have been a man to speak with any authority about 2012 is because it was a bus parking exercise throughout and children will not appreciate that every second of those matches carry tactical and defensive responsibility which Mata wasn't meeting. Children only remember attacking highlights. Men take cognisance of everytime someone is beaten, overpowered or overloaded on their wing, couldn't press quick enough etc which led to dangerous situations and Mata was guilty throughout which is why RDM had to haul him off early for Kalou who could cope better.

Before you respond again, state your age. That's like me arguing the tactical nuances of 1994 with my elders. I enjoyed the games and remember the goals but for example I did not even know that SiaSia was deployed as a central midfielder in many games due to Okochas defensive weakness until Raumdeuter told me here. Leave the story for the men. Mata is not rated for anything in our UCL knockout campaign, he stunk out the place.

NextD18:
Simple question, you can't answer.

Name midfielders that performed better than Mata in that tournament with proof, you can't answer.

All of a sudden, Wikipedia and stat links Na for teenagers because it brings fact, but if it's about bringing links to backup BTC, Eth and BLM arguments up, you'll bring them, but because this one is chocking you, you can't provide proof and links to back up your point which came as a result of your hate for Mata.

Mata produced 32 G/A in 11/12, more than any Chelsea midfielder, if not player. Provided 5 G/A in 12 appearances more than any Chelsea's midfielder[without penalty] in that UCL.

He was our best player of the season, provided an asist in the finals.

Hate it or not, he was our best midfielder that season.

Nobody is talking about best midfielder that season. We are talking about who was important to our UCL victory and Wikipedia teenagers had the gall to mention Mata's name. Name one thing Mata did from Napoli 2nd leg onward apart from playing a corner and you are going back to inconsequential group stage against Genk and co.

The reason you have to have been a man to speak with any authority about 2012 is because it was a bus parking exercise throughout and children will not appreciate that every second of those matches carry tactical and defensive responsibility which Mata wasn't meeting. Children only remember attacking highlights. Men take cognisance of everytime someone is beaten, overpowered or overloaded on their wing, couldn't press quick enough etc which led to dangerous situations and Mata was guilty throughout which is why RDM had to haul him off early for Kalou who could cope better.

If you want to talk about Matas season specifically, fine. Just remember we finished 6th that year. That's what happens when you pad stats against small teams you would have defeated anyway but disappear when big boys are playing. That's why he was shunted off to Manure and became a perennial substitute. A man in the body of a 12 year old boy who only thrives when the going is easy and becomes a liability when the games are tough.

raumdeuter:
Mikel as important as Drogba Lampard and even Cech who saved multiple penalties in the final?

Do a poll among Chelsea fans on this thread who were old enough to watch and understand football in 2012 on the 5 most important players to the 2012 CL win

5 names standout from that campaign. Cech and Drogba first and foremost, but Mikel, Ramires and Lampard join the elite 5 who were the main men in that campaign.

After that in the 2nd bracket, we have Ivanovic in a class of his own for his exploits against Napoli and general solidity and then we have Cole, Cahill and Luiz who defended manfully against the odds.

3rd bracket we have Meireles and Bosingwa that contributed greatly at the key moments vs Barcelona

And then we have Terry, Torres and Mata towing last, especially Mata.

And special mention to substitutes like Kalou who performed well defensively when brought on to fix Mata's leaking wing.

NextD18:
Any little thing, y'all will start yapping about folk's age as at when some matches were played, like it's some sort of Olympic debate of ancestral prowess.


I watched the game and that's why I'm authoritatively asking you a simple, straightforward and precise question.

Name 3 Chelsea midfielders that statistically bodied our 2012 best player MATA without penalties in that UCL tournament.

A simple question

Wikipedia talk for those who were teenagers then.

Our UCL campaign started from Napoli 2nd leg after we were dead and buried in the first leg, and Mata was useless from that point on when the real men showed themselves.

What he did in the group stage against Genk and co doesn't concern me. Replace him with a traffic cone and we would still be in the knockout round. Na from Napoli 2nd leg onward we judge that campaign.

CapitalCee:
He was inconsequential but scored 2 and assisted 3 goals including 1 in the final. He was infact Chelsea's player of the season. What an inconsequential player he must be. Agenda must agend na

NextD18:
2 goals 3 assist. Total of 5 G/A in 12 appearances.

Name 3 Chelsea midfielders that got that stat without penalties.

In which games?

Group stage?

If you were too young or not a Chelsea fan, let those who watched tell you who was consequential. Of all 11 players, he was the biggest passenger whose wing was always leaking. Taking a corner in the final doesn't change that. Even Bosingwa and Meireles will hold their head high compared to Mata in that competition, and in games where Kalou came on for him, we saw instant improvement.

Vs Napoli 4-1, he was benched as Drogba and Lampard each got a goal and assist

Vs Benfica 1-0, he did nothing as Kalou scored. 2nd leg 2-1, he did nothing and was substituted for Meireles who scored

Vs Barcelona first leg, his wing was leaking all game and was dragged off for Kalou who shored up his wing. Vs Barcelona 2-2, his wing was leaking and was dragged off early after 50 something minutes for Kalou who secured his wing.

Vs Bayern his wing was leaking all game and his only contribution was swinging in an average corner and Drogba did all the work with a bullet header.

Leave the story for those who watched every minute as fans and as grown men. Mata was our most useless starting player in the UCL run from Napoli 2nd leg onward. Bosingwa, Meireles and Kalou contributed more than him, not to talk of Cech, Drogba, Lampard, Ramires and Mikel who were the main protagonists. If it's bullying small teams in Group stage or league, we know Mata for that, but when playing tough games against strong men with backs are to the wall, Mata was the weak link.

CapitalCee:
And UCL in Chelsea nko, he was inconsequential too? Mata dragged Chelsea to Champions league glory. Assisting the goal in the final. Ballack could not

Mata dragged what?

Bikonu respect yourself.

Mata was the most inconsequential player in our UCL run.

[quote author=MaziAlaye post=98340406]Trump opened his hotel for DCPD to stay, while Biden moved the National Guards to a garage.

Trump DC hotel open for DCPD.

Strange the our wonderful & totally unbiased press corps had ZERO questions for pres sec on Nat’l Guard troops being move out of a congressional building into an open cold garage.

If Trump were pres they would be “outraged” pic.twitter.com/eQaVgAmFSX

— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) January 22, 2021

these soldiers have hotel rooms. This is just rest break. They are booked by Capitol Police. Nothing consign a President with their rest break arrangements. That's for Capitol Police to take care of. Politicians suddenly crying holy moly for the optics over Soldiers taking rest break in a garage. Soldiers wey dey hardened to sleep inside bush.

Roland17:
As of today, from here, dem dey offer only pick up if the recipient does not have a Dom ($) account in Nigeria..Baba, abeg, mention me on a dead thread..maybe I fit use that it agent.

Na UK agent. So far you fit transfer to UK account with no wahala, mention me and I'll put you through

Roland17:
Baba, thanks for the help. December you said? I must have been lucky because I was successful at making bank to bank transactions 2 weeks ago I think.

It started December 18th, although the Bank can change it to Naira for the recipient but at unfavourable rate.

We still have one agent here that does transfers at black market rate but they are unlicenced

User09:
The Huth I remember was always lacking in the cerebral aspects of the game and is certainly not for Chelsea.

Probably still nursing a grudge for being benched by Carvalho.

Kai's manner of play is not peculiar to Chelsea and has always been so - Which he would know if he was a true German.

I do agree about the body language though - Something has been off about it recently

The Huth I know always did well when called upon just like Alex who wasn't a starter but always reliable.

Chelsea fans love him and always shout HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTH when he clears the ball or tackles someone!

From a fellow Chelsea German

Creatrixity:
Omo.. I don run swap.

I dey ready to HODL to eternity sha.

We die here.

I just cut a small position in Tezos (XTZ) when it improved to 5% loss from 15% loss as I can't swap it - to avoid stories that touch. I actually knew it was a bad trade as soon as I entered it as I miscalculated the percentages. Luckily my fund manager positions made double the XTZ loss yesterday. BTC needs to accelerate above $34k to give these other ALTCoins some momentum. They may increase faster than BTC if BTC recovers, but they will also fall faster if BTC stalls

DapKing:
Thank you but the experience I gained is more valuable than my current degree I'm pursuing, it has made me understand not just business systems but Nigerians mentality towards business and future potential business one can take part in and risk raised capital with borrowed funds through a team of experienced partners and proper mentorship

My entrepreneurial intelligence and experience supercedes my peers who have even graduated and are trying to figure out their lives
Most of them ask me for guidance and direction

You are still in Uni 7 years later due to chasing ponzi scheme just to get a small cut of $40 downlines

Firstly, poverty is a bãstard

Secondly, stüpidity is a bastàrd. Who pauses their education several years for ponzi scheme that people do in their spare time?

obainojazz:
My bro entered 2015 and he is currently serving Strike indeed

My cousin entered Jan 17 and finished Sept 20. This one is telling story.

DapKing:
I always knew you were a fool
Anyway explaining to you will be pointless
I deferred my admission to pursue a network marketing Enterprise which you can see in my Facebook but won't post
You are too stupid to understand my history
And rush to hasty conclusions

Ok, we are getting there. From strike to Network Marketing.

You mean you threw away many years of your life for the pyramid ponzi scheme Helping Hands International. Mumu nigga who because he paid $40 to join the bottom of the pyramid dedicated many years of his life to finding people to join his downlines. SMH. Always been a MAGA.

DapKing:
Idiot
Strike affects us
Old Dullard
It's pointless discussing with an old fool
Hope your children are ok, but I doubt, you are too stupid to be a father

7 years due to strike with no finish in sight? Are you the only student in Nigeria? My cousins just finished in 4 years.

DapKing:
I'm schooling
My work is too develop myself internally
Material prosperity will be activated post NYSC

Now BE then DO then HAVE

You've been 7 years in University now. What derailed you? Mental health problems? How many carryovers now? 24 years old now and no closer to graduation. By the time you finish NYSC, you might be 30.

Only on Nairaland will someone with multiple carryovers in Akure University be abusing people they will call Sir in real life.