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Museveni was always gonna block social media cos Bobi Wine is too popular and is a movement in Uganda now. He is planning a coup. Soldiers lockdown Kampala right now. My Ugandan friend sent me this today. Museveni want display and doesn't want wildfire to spread via social media

nihilistjnr:
That still doesn't justify what we're seeing here.

The 'why' is irrelevant. Any reason can be trumped up, pun intended.

As it stands now, what you're saying is that you agree with what these guys are doing, because you agree with the reason why.

But it's not a democratic decision, if these guys get away with this, then they can do it again in the future... whether you agree with their reasoning or not

It's like you don't follow Trump's twitter. Anyone whose words and lies invite people to violence can and should be banned. There are many preachers who radicalise people to join ISIS etc without ever stepping outside the boundary of the laws.

Freedom of speech is guaranteed. Freedom after speech is not. Twitter's only problem is allowing him to get this far. He built his political career off Twitter with lies upon lies upon lies.

pamcode:
I know the guy's character leaves much to be desired even then most of the criticism against him back then centered on his intelligence, policies and his privileged background.

He did a lot of race baiting back then and it was well deserved. This is someone who launched his political career with a racist lie about Obama's place of birth.

pamcode:
I swear. This is new world order movie levels we are seeing. A whole POTUS dragged in the mud like a common criminal. The media and celebrities have always been gunning for him since the campaign days of his first term. I have never seen such media backed opposition against an individual in my life.

If every lawyer, journalist, Doctor, Judge keeps going against you, it's for a reason.

I know a cornered dog like Trump gains sympathy from people with a "me against the world" or conspiratorial mindset, but not people who like to live in civil society.

sod09:
I took 12 points hit and my opponent played free hit
I can't win this gw at all

Na this week you for play me, make I chop 3 points

raumdeuter:
I totally forgot to update my team, I have like 5 players available

Now these people behind me will use this opportunity to catch up

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sod09:
What happens when they are off the ball?
Can they mark or track back?

I think a-side football is the most difficult, one weak link and the team suffer greatly

Yes, any professional footballer has the required fitness to keep up with their man in 5 a side

sod09:
Let me rephrase, fast ball movement
Pirlo and xavi 2 slow midfielders(fabregas kind ) you entrusting to shield your keeper

These are fast ball movers and good half turn players who will exasperate the opposition

sod09:
What happens when your opponent touch ball, pace and counter attack will be use to destroy xavi and pirlo.
This is where your opponent need neymar/mane/sane and aguero/lewandoski/mbappe in attack
Rip to your team

Neuer
Koulibally Kdb
Neymar Aguero

Pace in 5-a-side?

Never in the history of 5-a-side has pace been a factor

sanpipita:
Think elon musk is independent, he once said his mars world will be libertarian but I noticed he has soft spot for Trump maybe for business reasons

Elon is right wing but cautious not to get too political. His biggest supporters are Green movement

timbros:
Choose your 5-a-side based on the image below...

For me, its

Dida
Maldini
Xavi
C. Ronaldo
Aguero

Ederson
Pirlo
Xavi
Ronaldo
Messi

Before you ask, all 5 a side players are midfielders, na why Pirlo dey my defence and to some extent why Ederson is in goal. Pirlo and Xavi in the middle, the other team will struggle to touch ball. Half-turn is the most important skill for a central player in 5-a-side.

sanpipita:
Conservatives haven't been planning for the future that's why, how will they create their platform when they are not progressive, left for them nobody will be using internet.

Even the parler they boast of is under threat by big tech, when liberals were investing in technology Conservatives were doing Bible and insha allah, for many years these people were preaching against technology now they are surprised they can't control it.

Don't count them out. Elon Musk and Peter Thiel emerging as tech champions of the right-wing.

ribbit:
capitalism ehhh


All these big cooperations working together to qaush one enemy can't be good in the long run.

Now we know the most powerful being in the world is still at the mercy of big cooperations like regular folks and they can treat anyone's fucck up at anytime except their own.


Deplatforming parler has got to be the most unnecessary show of power.

Most radicalization are not even happening on parler but facebook n twitter and youtube. Amazon, play store etc should remove facebook and twitter first.

Because parler is not big on moderation or share same view on how the world should be is not enough to get rid of it.


I think democrats should distance themselves from actions like this or it might come back to hunt them in the future.
What goes around they say.

Big corporations are beholden to Government the world over and scared of regulation.

They are not too powerful. They are always subject to Government. . . . unless the Government loses legitimacy like Trump's Govt.

That's why Zuck, Pichai and Dorsey were cowering during Senate hearing just few months ago, cos Govt can make or break them.

wirinet:
My brother Trump is a goner and every one associated with him will go with him.

The main stream media, big tech and wall Street made him. They have all ganged up to destroy him and his associates. They have had enough of him because he thinks he is bigger than the US itself.
I can bet my bottom Dollar that a year from now Trump will be dead broke.

Here are some reaction from them;
Stripe has stopped processing payments for the Trump campaign.

American Express and JPMorgan Chase have said they would no longer donate to candidates who supported last week's insurrection or did not vote to confirm President-elect Joe Biden's victory in the Electoral College.

Citigroup confirmed Sunday that it is pausing all federal political donations for the first three months of the year.

Twitter suspended Trump from its platform, as did Facebook, last week. The social media company Parler was banned from Apple's App Store as well as Google's Play Store, and Amazon cut off Parler from its Amazon Web Services platform.

Shopify, an e-commerce platform for merchants to sell goods, also shut down the Trump campaign's merchandise website as well.

Forbes editor warns companies that might hire Trump press secretaries: Magazine will assume everything they say is a lie.

Good. America is rooting him out.

AmazonTopaz:
There has been reports alleged against wife of supreme court Justice Ginni Thomas along with Charlie Krik paid for buses to take these lunatics to the capitol and there have been calls for investigation to the justice's wife's involvement





https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/1/9/2007521/-Ginni-Thomas-Aiding-Abetting-the-capital-insurrection

His wife is a known lunatic

sod09:
Blood everywhere

Only for crypto. My stock market guys doing OK but my crypto guys put me in the red overall. They wouldn't execute my MARA short cos market opened even lower than my strike price of $26. I had to go in at like $23 but I shaved a quick $35 when I went in. Could have ran it up to $350 gain but I had a meeting at 3pm and didn't want to leave an open trade running while in the meeting. When I reach house, I go assess the damage and see whether any buying opportunities dey.

sod09:
Ibime see falling

Blood on the dancefloor

PDPGuy:
Na so I see am

I was shocked to see MARA had dipped in the double digits, but I’m still holding on to it and will buy more. I think the cryptos are falling because people are cashing out their profits.
Then, once another stimulus bill is passed by the US Congress, expect to see the cryptos shoot past their present levels

Well let's hope êtoro execute my order at the right price with little slippage. I have put a sell at $26 and can see it is down on pre-opening trading.

PDPGuy:
Just FYI, the Senate needs a two-thirds vote to convict on impeachment, but disqualification from ever again holding office is a straight-up majority vote.

Good to know

nihilistjnr:
I woke up this morning to see BTC at 24k, and I entered last week at 25.

Before I entered, I don already zero say my money don go, but this was the first time my nuts have been tested...and it's an uncomfortable feeling.

Hehehehe. It's rallying slightly over the last hour, so the worst might be over. We go know how far by 1pm. Apparently a lot of whales moved BeeteeCee to exchanges yesterday which spooked everyone as it is often a signal they are ready to sell.

DeadPresidents:
Omo.. woke up to see $éth fell to $1k.

Noticed every other töken fell at least 20%.

Short term correction or major bust? We'll find out...

The worry was that the corrections were across the board which indicates slight sentiment of fear. Usually you don't mind few going down as long as others are going up, but this time they all went down. By 1.30 pm we go know how far before New York opens at 2.30pm. I dont think it will be a major bust. Worst case scenario probably $25-$30k for BeeteeCee and $800 for EeeteeH but they might hold at $32k and $1k and retrace if it's just profit taking rather than fear. If the thing continues falling, I will go through heavy with my shorts on listed miners, if not I will go light on the shorting

@PDPGuy,

Deep retrenchment of 20%+ across all cryptos in the last 24 hours. We are slightly approaching panic mode. I done activate my MARA short. I will only deactivate if markets recover small before NASDAQ opening, but it seems we are entering panic territory now.

Represent Nigeria, Represent Nigeria

Obikwelu japa, won Olympic silver medal for Portugal, and is now sprint trainer to Cristiano

Had he stayed representing Nigerian, he would still be begging Obasanjo for the house promised him after winning All Africa games

LordAdam16:
Na una dey use una hand dig una graves!

A substantial bloc that voted for Trump in New York were Jews. Israeli Jews prefer Trump to Obama.

The largest population of African Americans are in the South.

Mexicans, Asians, and Arabs are just as racist towards blacks. Na when kasala burst, na that time you go know say blacks na just 15% for America with most of them in only 10 states.

For now, you guys are "useful id*ots" to the left! Wait until they start calling the black community homophobic. An average of 10% of blacks even in Southern states vote Republican and you expect them to worship the ground you walk on. Who does that? Even latinos that recently acquired political power are splitting support.

The Mexican President is calling out Facebook and Twitter for the bans. But na on top that Democrat plantation una 1 die put. Kontinu.

-Lord

600 years of poverty kee you dia. Go and march with Proud Boys in Umudike.

Amazon shutting down Parler at 12 midnight.

Landlord shït.

6MWE - 6 million wasn't enough (Jews killed in the holocaust). These Trumpanzees want expand am to kill all of us. Thunder fire any bootlicking, yes massa, Uncle Tom Umudike Republican supporting these fascists. 600 years of poverty kill you dia.

iamJ:
how many decades before these companies meet up? 35% is more realistic but before it even falls to 35% it will be remain in high 70% for decades and by the time these companies make a product that can rival telsa, they will be so far ahead in R& D wise, that it will be almost impossible to beat them, 35% is very possible.

We are talking when petrol and diesel vehicles are banned and everyone is using EVs. Even as is stands, Tesla only controls 25% of the EV market despite first mover advantage. When others fully come on board with EV including Google and Amazon, Tesla can never have 35% of the EV market, they will be lucky to have 10%.

iamJ:
Same argument again Tesla isn't just a car company, they make so many other products, do you know how much they will make with their trucks, autopilot technology, solar roofs, power walls, Ev battery sales and Ev component sales, you are using just their car business to scale the growth of the company they have vertically integrated the production of most of their component manufacturing that alone will not only give them outside sources of revenue but the research done at that level can be aligned to limit the overall cost of the car

Tesla non-automotive Revenue is 6% of their total Revenue. Sounds good on qualitative yarns on Twitter but not in their accounts.

salford1:
In my opinion. What the republicans have now in the state is not conservativism.They are on the door steps of far right ideologies. I based my comparison on the ideology of the leading conservative parties in the UK and Canada.

That's why I told MaziAlaye to stop abusing the word Conservative. What Republicans are practising in Yankee is not Conservatism.

nitrogen:
True, however, have you considered the fact that many of Tesla’s competitors will do a lot in terms of capex to get to where Tesla is today, for example, they need to convert most of their manufacturing and assembly sites to ones suitable for EV manufacturing, they need to do lots of inventory disposal, what about capex for innovation and technology?

Tesla’s platform is top notch and well integrated, the company just needs to build on existing platform for growth, while others would need to transition slowly before they even talk about growth. Designs and feel of Tesla’s products are special, which can lead to customer loyalty (highly valuable, even though it’s intangible), a very good example is Apple and their products.

Agree that by 2040/2050, most players will probably be at the same level, but, what happens between now and then? Maybe that’s what investors are considering.

In addition, I believe that investors are looking at some level of operational and manufacturing efficiency in the nearest future for Tesla, which means improved margins and free cash flows.

Good point but Tesla PPE at cost is $22 bln which can be surmounted. Infact some of these are probably overinflated on Tesla balance sheet, for example he bought solar gigafactory from his cousins at $3bln which was seen as a massive overpayment. Other automotive companies are buying smaller EV companies with technology, same way Elon bought Tesla so they don't need to waste much time in the early stage. With many of them switching production to China, they will tap into much cheaper means of production there and PPE assets will have also become more efficient and cheaper in terms of utility derived per investment. The game is also open for highly capitalised players like Amazon and Google which is more competition beyond the current automakers, plus Chinese cars are reaching the level of quality to pass regulatory barriers to Western market entry so more competition.

Finally French and German Governments aren't sleeping. They take great pride in their automakers performance and French Government own 10-15% of all their car makers. You will see these governments deploy all sorts of subsidies and research from EU research centres to give their companies competitive advantage.

On top of that you have Hydrogen technology which will make EVs obsolete as Hydrogen is carbon neutral. EVs would get tariffed or even banned should hydrogen become viable, and you have companies like Toyota pursuing Hydrogen strategy heavily.

chic2pimp:
Don't let Bojo's bumbling oaf cult like figure fool you. Unlike Trump, Boris is actually a very intelligent chap who can hold His own when intellectual discussions come to the fore. Infact their respective physical appearances is where the similarities end because as far as innate intelligence is concerned, Donald can't hold His jock strap.

Boris has really done well. He delivered a decent Brexit despite the doommongers while toning down the rhetoric of the National debate and has been inclusive in tone and messaging, plus he has provided good economic succour during the pandemic. He gets my vote next election, even though Labour are getting back to an electable place with Keir Starmer. I don't mind either but Boris will get my vote as a reward.

nitrogen:


Well, cost of capital assumption is very key. Also, there are other factors. E.g. Emission levels expected from other manufacturers can result in lower cash flows (in form of fines and/or ESG capex) or slightly higher cost of capital, since they may not be able to borrow at competitive rates.

That's a red herring. CoC is cheap across the board right now and applies to all the automakers, and they will all be producing exclusively EVs in 2040 so those environmental costs won't be a factor. You can just predict future cash flows by applying a market share percentage. Forget the time-value discounting and just assume they increase gross with inflation to arrive at the same CF each year in Present Value. If we use 38 years which is the current S&P PE ratio and is a consensus number that allows you to forget discounting, like I said Tesla needs to hit 40+% market share to justify current price.

nitrogen:
Comparable, precedent transactions and net asset valuation methodologies are out through the window. The world is doing a DCF for Tesla, and I believe they will continue to update their analysis with Elon’s big plans until he messes up.

I just did something comparable to a DCF methodology up there without the discounting to show that Tesla needs 44% of future market share to justify current prices. This has gone past DCF into madness and greed.

nitrogen:
Well, valuation is the present value of future cash flows. If you have big dreams and the world believes you can achieve them, they will factor that into your market capitalization.

Belief must translate into numbers in the long run. SpaceX and Boring company ventures will not bring any numbers to Tesla. I think people are conflagrating both. Teslas primary business is storage of electricity in small quantities and sale of cars and car technology which is a finite market that can be quantified and valued.

When a stock price starts behaving like Bitcoin, you know you have gone past rational analysis into the territory of wild speculation driven by cult of personality. Who knows, e fit be newly minted Bitcoin millionaires pumping up Tesla price with their new found cash.