European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 1:48pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: come to think of it, this press resistance you guys keep posting. Anyway, was pirlo "press resistant"
If press resistance is opposing players rushing a player, I recall Jorginho facing such as Napoli, and holding the ball effectively or releasing the pass quickly. Well then EPL took a toil on him.
Or when you speak of a player you just mention their performance in a short period or their playing period? Press resistance is ability to half-turn away from pressing players without mistake. Pirlo had it, but Xavi was the best. Other good players with half-turn from a different mould include Makelele and Dembele. Fabregas has a half-turn but he's not great at it. Jorginho has no half-turn, he just plays the ball back to defence when you press him, or he loses it. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 1:34pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
iamoyindamola: How do you want thunder to fire you for this thing you posted The day Arsenal became a failure club was the day they replaced men who cover every aspect of midfield like Gilberto and Vieira with structural liabilities like Fabregas |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 12:31pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
donjazet: lastly, fabregas might be washed up now due to aging legs, How old was Fabregas when he became a perennial bench fodder from 2016. His mate are still running midfield for Madrid and the likes. He never had legs. He was found out as an easy man to press halfway through our title run in 2014/15. He has been the same since he was a teenager. Nothing to do with age. He was a structural liability since youth. Jorginho is young now and still doesn't have legs. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:21am On Jul 05, 2020 |
hensben: Mehn you described Fabregas perfectly well. He Is talented, tho physically weak. SS(supporting striker) was/is his best position but most coaches he played under never utilized his ability to that effect due to tactics evolvement I think. He is still too slow to play AM. Another CM behind will have to be the one making runs into the box to join the attackers, leaving the midfield open. Ontop of that, he will destroy any attempt at high press cos he can't keep up, making it easy for opponents to beat the press and attack your midfield. His only hope was to convert into a deep Pirlo role but he is not press resistant. As soon as you press him, he gives up the ball and opponents are running straight at your defence. I don't know how anyone will be harking back to Fabregas who every manager from Barcelona to Chelsea benched back to back for these reasons. Only a monkey post analyst like Popizaino who is myopic to only see the great passes will not see the full picture and concentrate only on the passes. Left to Popizaino, our midfield 3 today would be Mikel, Fabregas and Mata |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 8:53am On Jul 05, 2020 |
popizaino: So surprising this is coming from you and not from guys who based their comments after watching only highlights alone.
Fabregas despite been on the bench in the title winning season was more instrumental than some of your regular starter.The game at city which allowed us to top the table at that time is evident to this.Do i also need to remind you that we needed fabregas to come off the bench to give a meaningful pass to Costa to score a solo goal against Gomez when the game looked like it was destined for a draw at vicarage road in the same title winning season?
It still baffles me anyone would blame any of our players in 15/16 for our abysmal performance rather the coach.The same season fabregas kept feeding our attackers with perfect through balls which they missed on most occasions to allow opponent score their only attempt is what you are blaming fabregas for . well maybe if your attackers were more clinical infront of goal we wouldnt have finished 10th.The game at leceister in that same season showed you have been blaming fabregas unjustly.Pls airmark or raudemeter should help with a gif of that very game.fabregas came off the bench even when Chelsea were losing to give Costa one very good pass that a blind and crippled old man would score but what did we have Costa doing with the pass? your guess is as good as mine
Fabregas is not your defensive player but at least he covers this deficiency in his defensive game play with beautiful,telepathic,through passes all the time .passes that even kdb would be jealous of. Go and tell this to Monaco fans who want to chase him with sticks and stones. They will soon chase him to Ligue2. Every top club chased him away, now even farmers league want to chase him. We are in 2020 and the nigga has been a bench warmer since 2015, and some mumu will still be thinking that is what Chelsea needs. Same mumu that was defending Mikels right to be a starter at Chelsea when every manager has benched him since 2012. The same escort who you thought should be starting for Chelsea was chased to China where he relegated his team, to Championship to Turkish midtable to unemployment. You know nothing about the defensive and possession side of midfield play, you just think someone throwing pass every now and then is good enough, when the same person will cost you two goals for every one he creates. Fabregas cannot defend, he cannot control midfield possession except against powderpuff opposition, he gets dispossessed easily in the press, and even if you think he is an AM, he cannot press or make up ground to join his attackers in big games. You are a monkey post analyst. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:30pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
popizaino: Don't let ibime hear this ! You mean the same Fabregas that was on the bench in the title winning season of 16/17? Same one who took us to 10th place with super escorting in 15/16? Same guy who took us to 5th place in 2017/18 when he became a starter? Same Fabregas who Monaco fans are trying to chase out their team? Say no to press irrestitant escorts like Fabregas and Jorginho. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 9:51pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
Barkley! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 9:40pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
Dem dey drag Gilmour since he came on sha |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 9:39pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
BikeMan: Wait, what did Jorginho do? Lampard is telling him to call his agent and accept any bid coming. His agent was busy making noise that he wants to stay 3 weeks ago. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 9:24pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
Unlimited22: I said this thing on a Chelsea thread somewhere and they all came for my head. Give him a cooler head who can do the organisation and passing and he'll be superb. Christensen is too soft, Tomori too green and Rudiger too useless average You will hardly ever catch Zouma for being out of position or not covering the angle for the cross. All you can say is he looks clumsy on the ball, but TBH, that is improving under Lampard. His first two games he made mistakes under Lampard which I put down to nervousness of trying to establish himself at a big club (his parent club) having been out of the picture since 2015. After that, he was fairly solid. His high point was the performance alongside Tomori away at Ajax. Lampard should have built on that instead of deferring to Rudiger. TBH, All these players would look a lot better without Kepa making them nervous. Apart from Rudiger, Christensen really disappointed me with his tracking of runs for West Ham second goal. I can bet Zouma will never jump over Antonio and start running toward the ball like Christensen did instead of marking the man in the box. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 9:19pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
Unlimited22: I've wanted FBS out since 2018, but based on this evidence, he can stay while we shore up our defence. He doesn't have good outputs,which is where my issue is, but he always puts up a good defensive shift. And he'll be a good bench option. Just not as a starter. Although given his level of fitness, if there's any player I trust to play till 34 in good condition, it's Willian. His work ethic and natural fitness is almost like Milner, plus he's good in the dressing room being a Christian and a good boy. To be honest, I would not draw red line on giving him 3 years. It can be negotiated depending on the salary in that final year. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 9:15pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
Zouma seems to be our best defender for now. He's the only one that is a defender first and foremost |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 9:12pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
timbros: Give Willian the 3 years he wants. Please. Willian is a good player. Not explosive but a good player. 2 years should be enough. He should be mindful of competing with Ziyech though |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 9:10pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
macjireh: Chelsea have really suffered in d transfer market sha..buying players DAT can't play I'm looking forward to what these guys will buy going forward looking at their last 4 transfers. There is clear synergy with Lampard on what the team needs unlike before where manager is always fighting with Technical Director |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 9:09pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
macjireh: Chelsea have really suffered in d transfer market sha..buying players DAT can't play 2016 to 2019 was a nightmare for transfers bar Ngolo Kante. Not one of them hit. Only Barkley is hanging on somewhat. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 9:03pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
Greatihex: when I told you guys that he is our best attacker una think say na lie.
What I love most is his hunger and eye for goal coupled with his creative sense. Well done to the scouts for buying him even though it seemed too expensive at first. Our last 4 transfers (Kovacic, Pulisic, Ziyech and Werner) shows a focussed and pre-planned strategy. The ones before gave us Kepa, Jorginho, Bakayoko, Alonso, Luiz, Rudiger, Drinkwater, Zappacosta, Morata, Emerson, Giroud, Barkley and Batsman back-to-back and were all last minute desperate signings |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 8:44pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
Skimpledawg: Puli is a player jaree The boy dey give me joy. He's got the dribbling ability of Hazard but more direct and knows when to release ball. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 8:43pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
Wily Wily! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 8:43pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
Nice one Puli |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 8:42pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: false 9 oh, true 9 oh, that dude, well like bruno u mentioned, either he comes to play 9 or he doesn't come. I asked u before about his defensive work or contributions you didn't answer. Yet you want him to play in our midfield  He played a more defensive role last season while Julian Brandt played AM before transferring to Dortmund |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 8:20pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
Giroud should do better with that shot |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 8:18pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
Thecassanova: Yeah. The game against city as KDB snatch the ball from him comes to mind Not just City, even likes of David Brooks at Bournemouth peppered him |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 8:15pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
See James again, failing to keep up with a straight run from Femenia. They started together but Femenia gets into the box with 5 yards of clear space |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 8:14pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
Thecassanova: Other DM in the league do more in defensive duties like tackle, intercept, track back, etc. But what does he do then Apert from defending, Jorginho is not press resistant at all, leading to spells of unbearable pressure on our defence for those moment in the game when opponents press with high energy |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 8:12pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
Azpi on that left no be am at all |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 7:02pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
Rudiger dropped. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 5:40pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
Greatihex: when will you people face this truth and say it? Lampard is the problem with that defence. Shikina. Yes, he is a problem, but don't underestimate the impact of a commanding keeper. A tall commanding keeper will snuff out 80% of our set piece problems. His hands are tied in that regard. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 4:34pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
Unlimited22: Leicester City will drop out of the top 4. If Wolves lose today too, with any luck, we'll make it.
But we absolutely HAVE to win today. It's not what others might do. It's what Kepa and our defence might do. You can't bank on those guys winning easy games at all. Lampard needs to return to Zouma and Tomori partnership ASAP. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 4:30pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
I said finishing above Manure would be tough last week. Looks like we will need to win every game to finish above Manure and I don't see that happening. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Nairaland Fantasy Premier League 2019/2020 by Ibime(m): 4:27pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
Ching, ching, we getting points over here! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:04pm On Jul 03, 2020 |
A40: Zidane has done a solid job this season. Remember he has been missing Asensio and basically is relying on Benzema and Ramos for goals as Brazilian Akpororo is still learning the ropes and Zidane is still paying for woefully overestimating Hidden Shakushaku's abilities. Eloquently put  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 1:21am On Jul 03, 2020 |
airmark: Why is it only Boathand not recognised by Fifa and now the Burthisleaguedown organisers, for his great performances? Maybe they remember his many stupid defendings.
[img]https:///media/10-01-2017/D3UDwp.gif[/img] This is what they call backheel defending. Since strikers dey do backheel, defender sef no want carry last. |