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if it were to be a Muslim he'll be labelled a terrorist but since Samuel is his name there's no offence in it.

Them no fit close eye small sef.

true love.

udatso:
Please ignore the fool. You don't waste time on someone who doesn't even know what are verses Of the Quran

thank you my brother.

mmsen:
I've only quoted from the Qu'ran you are bringing up other texts. Indirectly you are undermining the authority of the Qu'ran by admitting, implicitly, that is incomplete and faulty.

So Bukhari, Tabari and Ibn Ishaq are all in the Qur'an. Is that your point?

In fact, it's so ironical that you're even the OP. You posted Tafsirs thinking they are Suras from the Qur'an. Do you even know what a Sura is?
Oga you must be joking!

In fact, it's so ironical that you're even the OP. You posted Tafsirs thinking they are Suras from the Qur'an. Do you even know what a Sura is?

mmsen:
Why did you bring him up unless you were admitting that the Quran is unverified jibberish?

Weren't you the one who said that the proofs are from our 'special books?' besides non of these events were recorded in the Qur'an but it Tafsirs alone. I can see that you're one of those who know nothing about Islam yet they keep wailing.

mmsen:
Are you admitting that the Quran has been altered and is imperfect?

You see yourself?
Is Ibn Ishaq in anyway related to the Qur'an

What Non-Muslims says about Ibn IshaqThe work of Ibn Ishaq is much of criticism. Ibn Ishaq work contain several false stories regarding Muhammad. Even Western Non-Muslims says about Ibn IshaqWestern non-Muslim researchers also criticized Ibn IssHaaq:"False ascription was rife among the 8th century scholars and that in any case Ibn Ishaq and contemporaries were drawing on oral traditions." (Cook, M: Muhammad, Oxford 1983. pg. 65)Even a famous anti-islamic scholar criticize the work of Ibn IshaqThe famous Polemist and anti-Islam author Robert Spencer admits in his book The Truth about Muhammad , that"However, Ibn Ishaq's life of Muhammad is so unashamedly hagiographical that its accuracy is questionable." (Spencer, Robert: The Truth about Muhammad, Regnery Publishers, 2006 pg. 25) Despite his negative opinion regarding Ibn Ishaq, out of the 400 footnotes of Robert Spencer's book, 120 footnote refer to fabricated stories from Ibn Ishaq's book. Because Robert Spencer hates Islam so much that he iswilling to present these stories as if they are true, even though he knows that their source is unreliable.

2- Muslims Scholars Opinion: Shaykh ibn Taymiyyah said:"Allah has provided evidence (i.e. Isnad) establishing the authenticity or lack thereof of the narrations that are necessary in matters of the religion. It is well known that most of what was reported in aspects of Tafsir (commentaries on the Qur'an) is similar to narrations reporting Maghazi (or Seerah) and battles, promoting Imam Ahmad to state that three matters do not have Isnad: Tafsir,Mala'him (i.e. great battles), and Maghazi. This is because most of their narrations are of the Maraseel (without reliable companions or successor) type, such as narrations reported by Urwah Ibn az-Zubair, ash-Sha'bi, az-Zuhri, Musa Ibn Uqbah and Ibn Ishaq." (Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah, Majmu' Al Fataawa, Volume, 13, page 345)Imam Malik on Ibn Ishaq:Imam Malik was not the only contemporary of Ibn Ishaq's to have problems with him. Despite writing the earliest biography of Prophet Muhammad, Scholars such as al-Nisa'I and Yahya b. Kattan did not view Ibn Ishaq as a reliable or authoritative source of Hadith. (Jones, J.M.B.Ibn Ishak. Vol. IV, in Encyclopaedia of Islam, edited by Ch. Pellat, and J. SchachtV.L.M.B. Lewis. London: Luzac & Co., 1971: pages 810-811)Malik bin Anas Bin Malik bin Abu Amir Al-Asbahi (715-801 C.E.) or Imam Malik-- lived cloest in the time to the life of Prophet Muhammad of all the collectors of the hadith (Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawud, etc). He was born more than 80years after the death of the Prophet. Imam Malik was a complier of a respected hadith collection, called Muwatta. Imam Malik was a hadith scholar. Imam Malik called Ibn Ishaq a liar and an imposter for writing false stories about Prophet Muhammad. Imam Malik has said that Ibn Ishaq"reports traditions on the authority of the Jews".(Kadhdhab and Dajjal min al-dajajila. Uyun al-athar, I, 16-7)In his valuable introduction Ibn Sayyid al-Nas provides a wide-ranging survey of the controversial views on Ibn Ishaq.In his full introduction to the Gottingen edition of the Sira, Wustenfeld in turn draws extensively on Ibn Sayyid al-Nas.Imam Hanbal and Iand Ahmad on Ibn IshaqImam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal was asked about the solitary reports of Ibn Ishaq if they are considered reliable. He said“No!”. See Tahdhib al-Tahdhib, Da’ira Ma’arif Nizamia, Hyderabad, 1326 A.H. vol.9 p.43Because of his tadlīs (unrealible sources) many scholars including Muhammad al-Bukhari hardly ever used his narrations in their sahih books.(A Biography of the Prophet of Islam, By Mahdī Rizq Allāh Aḥmad, Syed Iqbal Zaheer, pg. 18)According to al-Khatib al-Baghdādī, all scholars of ahadith except one no longer rely on any of his narrations, although truth is not foreign to him.(Al-Khatīb al-Baghdādī, Tārīkh Baghdād)Others, like Ahmad ibn Hanbal, rejected his narrations on allmatters related to fiqh. Al-Dhahabī concluded that despite his good qualities any narration solely transmitted through him should probably be considered as containing munkar. (Al-Dhahabī, Mīzān al-itidāl fī naqd al-rijāl, at "Muhammad ibn Ishaq)

Islamophobes are fond of attacking Islam with certain stories from Ibn Ishaq's account which are not authentic. There are however 3 criteria we'll use to discuss this but let's go straight to the point.

1- His original biography didn't survive: The original text of the Sīrat Rasūl Allah (Biography of Muhammad) by Ibn Ishaq (Medina 85 A.H.; Bagdad 151 ) did not survive. Yet it was one of the earliest substantial biographies of Muhammad. Fortunately, as noted above, much of the original text was copied over into a work of his own by Ibn Hisham (Basra; Fustat c.218 A.H.)Ibn Hashim himself claimed:"God willing I shall begin this book with Isma'il son of Ibrahim and mention those of his offspring who were the ancestors of God's apostle one by one with what is known about them, taking no account of Isma'il's other children, omitting some of the things which has been recorded in this book in which there is no mention of the apostle and about which the Quran says nothing and which are not relevant to anything in this book or an explanation of it or evidence forit; poems which he quotes that no authority on poetry whom I have met knows of;things which it is disgraceful to discuss;matters which would distress certain people; and such reports as al-Bakka'i told me he could not accept as trustworthy - all these things I have omitted. But God willing I shall give a full account of everything else so far as it is known and trustworthy tradition is available.[The Life of Muhammad, A Translation of Ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah, with introduction and notes by Alfred Guillaume [Karachi Oxford University Press, Karachi, Tenth Impression 1995, p. 691]

mmsen:
What 'lies'? Those are quotes lifted directly from your special book.

Can't you refute what I said?

mmsen:
What 'lies'? Those are quotes lifted directly from your special book.

Can't you refute what I said? Besides the original hagiography of Ibn Ishaq didn't survive.

orisa37:
He is The Propitiator for our Sins.

But bro why do you think you need a sacrifice of blood for your sins?

Now, Oga Islamophobe observe this Hadith carefully and make sure you are with your brain while reading.

Volume 1, Book 8, Number 448:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

A black man or a black woman used to sweep the mosque and he or she died. The Prophet asked about her (or him). He was told that she (or he) had died. He said, "Why did you not inform me? Show me his grave (or her grave)." So he went to her (his) grave and offered her (his) funeral prayer."

Why will the Prophet offer funeral prayers to the people he despises so much? In fact funeral prayers are supposed to be observed for dead Muslims. If the blacks have no slot in Islam, then why the heck did he prayed for them?

Abu Bakar freed Bilaal Ibn Rabah from slavery after he saw him been inflicted with torments like the placing of rock you posted prior to Ibn Ishaq's account. Now after he freed Billal from the pagans who were his masters, he took good care of him and never treated him unfairly. Bilaal in fact fell in love with Islam till. he converted.
In fact, he was selected as the first Mu'azin(caller of prayers) in Islam. The Prophet never discriminated him because he was black and neither did the Muslims.
That's just point number 1 to refute your lies.

true2god:
It was narrated from Anas that :
the Prophet (ﷺ ) bought Safiyyah for seven slaves. (Sahih) (One of the narrators) 'Abdur-Rahman said: "From Dihyah Kalbi.'

Vol. 3, Book 12, Hadith 2272 (sunnah Ibn majjah).

This sunnah above can be collaborated with the hadith below by bukhari (one of the greatest Islamic journalist and historian):


Narrated Abdul Aziz:
Anas said, "When Allah's Apostle invaded Khaibar, we offered the Fajr prayer there (early in the morning) when it was still dark. The Prophet rode and Abu Talha rode too and I was riding behind Abu Talha. The Prophet passed through the lane of Khaibar quickly and my knee was touching the thigh of the Prophet. He uncovered his thigh and I saw the whiteness of the thigh of the Prophet. When he entered the town, he said, ‘Allahu Akbar! Khaibar is ruined. Whenever we approach near a (hostile) nation (to fight) then evil will be the morning of those who have been warned.’ He repeated this thrice.

The people came out for their jobs and some of them said, ‘Muhammad (has come).’ (Some of our companions added, ‘With his army.’) We conquered Khaibar, took the captives, and the booty was collected. Dihya came and said, ‘O Allah's Prophet! Give me a slave girl from the captives.’ The Prophet said, ‘Go and take any slave girl.’ He took Safiya bint Huyai. A man came to the Prophet and said, ‘O Allah's Apostle! You gave Safiya bint Huyai to Dihya and she is the chief mistress of the tribes of Quraiza and An-Nadir and she befits none but you.’ So the Prophet said, ‘Bring him along with her.’ So Dihya came with her and when the Prophet saw her, he said to Dihya, ‘Take any slave girl other than her from the captives.’ " Anas added: "The Prophet then manumitted her and married her."

Thabit asked Anas, "O Abu Hamza! What did the Prophet pay her (as Mahr)?" He said, "Her self was her Mahr for he manumitted her and then married her." Anas added, "While on the way, Um Sulaim dressed her for marriage (ceremony) and at night she sent her as a bride to the Prophet. So the Prophet was a bridegroom and he said, ‘Whoever has anything (food) should bring it.’ He spread out a leather sheet (for the food) and some brought dates and others cooking butter. (I think he (Anas) mentioned As-Sawaq). So they prepared a dish of Hais (a kind of meal). And that was Walima (the marriage banquet) of Allah's Apostle." ( Sahih al-Bukhari , Volume 1, Book 8, Number 367).

The prophet of allah was 100% involved in slave trade and capturing of women as sex slaves, according to the instructions given to him by allahh and alllah's command must be fulfilled.

allahuu acbaruu!

But all these things you said are found in the Bible.

And is the Davido himself living a simple life?

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She even get 15 year old pikin. And she expects her to be 'proud of mom?'

Accidents, murders, rapes.....these days sef me no understand again o.

calberian:
Yeah, I preferred it to NES so, for me also Sega was the ish initially. Sonic was Uber lit. However, when SNES came to town with so much more cartridges from the Japanese and the American versions. And the converter. It was hard to want to spend precious time with a Sega (ssce and jamb dey ground for me at the time)

Have you seen Sega Genesis III?

Mehn! Money good o. Even if you are fully a monkey, and you have the cash, women must like you.

Must you post nude in the first place for the world to see your body?

The rest went into the pockets of our kleptomaniac leaders.

This tortoise go don see things tire.

Wow! The pyramids are just beautiful.

The U.S. said on Tuesday that the agenda being pursued by President Muhammadu Buhari’s administration were in line with its expectations.

The Deputy Director, Office of West African Affairs, Bureau of African Affairs at the U.S. Department of State, Mr Nathan Holt, made the remarks on Tuesday from Washington, D.C. via teleconference on: ‘Nigeria, a critical U.S. partner’.

Holt said: “In 2015, Nigeria had a very important election. It elected Muhammadu Buhari as president. This represented the first time in Nigerian history that there was a peaceful, democratic transfer of power from one party to an opposition party. It was a milestone not only for Nigeria but really for Africa as a whole."

enshy:
You should have been at the comedy half hour!
Thats where you belong, you have no part in the sacred Truth!
Pls remove yourself and let sane, washed, cleansed minds delibrate on sacred Truth to inform the simple.
Thank you!

Yes sir! All of you with the 'sacred truth' stay over there and then comment so that we can learn.

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