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soetanoreoluwa:
Could this be the third kit?

I would even prefer this to that dark green.

Certitude:
I've seen in the EPL

I am talking about FIFA organized competitions. Even in those European leagues it is very rare.

Clubs as much as possible try to vary the colors they use in playing against each other. Even down to stockings level.

elyte89:
Boss forget about Dis jerseys, it has been unveiled, we no fit change am again

Sure I know. It cannot change but you don't expect critics to keep mute.

I have made my points clear. It cannot change anything for this particular one but possibly for future ones.

tbaba1234:
Several countries also stray from the shade of their national flag. I do not see it as a big deal.. Only few countries like Italy are very strict on their shade of blue.. France has worn all kinds of blue.

But the major issue I have is having two shades of green as home and away.

tbaba1234:
One is very dark and the other is bright.

Lets say, we play mexico. They wear their dark green Jerseys and we wear the Jersey with the light green and white shots. It is clearly distinguishable.

I am not sure, but I don't think FIFA allows two countries to wear the same color of jerseys even if they are of different shades. I think they must be different colours. I have never seen in my entire life any FIFA or CAF game where two different countries wear different shades of one color in a game.

That kit Iwobi wore should have been predominantly white and be made the away jersey. And the dark green jersey should have been lightened up a bit and made the home jersey.

Modified: Alternatively, they should have done a green short for the one Iwobi is wearing( same green with the top) and then make the dark green plain white. With this we can still combine the Bright green with a white short(if we so wish) the way Iwobi is wearing it an still have our traditional all white away jerseys. Which is safer for us.

tbaba1234:
This is for those complaining that it is not Nigeria's green.

Of course Nigeria has always used different shades of green. However, since after the 2002 WC were we used a lemon Jersey (of which it was widely criticised, even the international press) we have always tried to use jerseys close as much as possible to our national green. The last WC Jersey was a kinda a little away from our national green of which some people also criticised it.

tbaba1234:
I am saying that it was a unique design different from the regular design.

The uniqueness in the design IMO is not a major issue here.

Making Green both home and away color is a major issue.

tbaba1234:
Notice the wide range of red for Portugal

Portugal 1966 WC

https://interactive.guim.co.uk/embed/2014/jun/world-cup-kits/football-kits/portugal_1966_1-01.png

Portugal 1986 WC

https://interactive.guim.co.uk/embed/2014/jun/world-cup-kits/football-kits/portugal_1986_1-01.png

Portugal 2002

https://interactive.guim.co.uk/embed/2014/jun/world-cup-kits/football-kits/portugal_2002_1-01.png

Portugal 2010

https://interactive.guim.co.uk/embed/2014/jun/world-cup-kits/football-kits/portugal_2010_1-01.png

Portugal 2014

https://interactive.guim.co.uk/embed/2014/jun/world-cup-kits/football-kits/portugal_2014_1-01.png

But did they use another shade of red for the corresponding away jerseys?

tbaba1234:
1991-1992 England jerseys

Home: https://www.englandfootballonline.com/images/Uniforms/EngUnif1991AltPalmer.jpg

Away: https://www.englandfootballonline.com/images/Uniforms/EngUnif1992Alt.jpg

There was no WC in 1991/92. So in Europe, which other country wore a colour close to that England away jersey?

TheSuperNerd:
I know and understand what you are saying. I am only speaking of what the materials will be out to do as regards the outer cold climate. If I go into details of where the heat absorbed by the material is going to, I will easily tell you it is being absorbed into the body.... The essence of the materials is to absorb heat and not let it be lost to the outer environ but instead have it moved to the body's surface to keep the players warm... It is a steadily continuous cycle.

In th case of light colored jerseys, a heat retention mechanism is definitely employed since bright colors are not natural absorbers of heat but deflectors of it. Don't mind my language of "heat retention" because ofcos the heat is moved to the body but I use it to describe what it does in not losing it to the outer environ but rather to the body it covers.

Perfect.

Danielnino00:
Hopefully,there will be a third kit(but what colour?)




Where's the goalkeeper jersey self??

A third kit? Hmmm....

Mujtahida:
But how do countries whom we know wear almost one color type cope. Countries like Spain(red) , Italy, Portugal, Sweden, Brazil, Colombia, Uruguay, Japan.

Not true, They wear sharply different home and away jerseys.

Spain home us Red on Dark blue shorts, Away is all white.

Italy: Home is Blue on white or all blue and away is all white.

Portugal: Home is Red and Green, away is all white.

Sweden: Home is Yellow on blue, away is all blue.

Colombia: Home is Yellow on Blue, away is Yellow on white.

Brazil: Home is Yellow on Blue/Green, away is Yellow on white.

Uruguay: Home is light on dark blue away is all black.

Japan: Home is Blue on white and away is all white.

Danielnino00:
The above countries don't wear one colour type na...
Spain for instance wear red home kit and white with some touch of red away kit..
our traditional white kit always has a touch of green too..


I agree with Icon4s .... The Jersey design is cool,but the colours aren't..
The green should have been our home kit and the other one should be more white....

You get it.

TheSuperNerd:
I don quote profosa already naa.....


I think it would not be a huge problem for us but just a challenge we must manage and overcome strategically. We will be dealing with the cold weather/climate as we are coming from a Warmer climate as a nation but of course most of our euro-based players have seen the cold of Europe during winter in England, Belgium, Turkey, etc and a few more have seen that of Russia which is far more unique (Idowu and Musa).

Our deep/dark green Jersey coupled with the material underneath will see our players retain heat more than lose heat during match day actions.

As for our light green/white combo, being of colors that do not absorb heat, well, I hope the material has a kind of heat retaining mechanism underneath it to aid our players too. I hope the NFF worked out the details on this one before release... Or if they haven't, well they still got time now. They should get it done.

I wonder what nations wearing white are gonna do... Thought about that? I think this heat-retention mechanism will be employed technologically by most teams with brighter jersey colors anyway. Nothing new.

I don't want us to go too much into the physics of this because of the general house. I just want to drop one principle ; materials that easily absorb heat easily loss heat. Dark colours would easily absorb the heat (which would be cold temperature in the case of Russia) now losing the heat would mean the material transferring part of the heat into the human body. It doesn't directly retain the heat as you put it. What can isolate the body is maybe a particular membrane attached to the inner parts of the jerseys to insulate it from the human body. That is where the technology comes in.

It is a revers of the conditions for the light coloured Jerseys.

But no worries, cos I believe the Nike technology experts would have put all those into consideration.

TheSuperNerd:
Then that is definitely a blast away from the norm.

You have just realised one of what I have been saying since.

Danielnino00:
Actually, Mexico qualified for the WC...


I get ur point though... Using d same colour for the home and away jersey is d problem here....

Yeah, that true, Mexico are in it.

Using the same colour. That is what I am talking about. But guys here are carried away by the aesthetic designs. What is wrong with our conventional. Green home Jersey and white away jersey. They can put different designs but let the principal colours be dominant.

Mujtahida:
I no be science guy ooo but I don't agree with this. Shey Nike would not put what is so manifestly clear to you into consideration when I'm sure it's not just one person that designed the Jersies but a whole team of experts.

Somebody raised the dark or bright colour issue.

I was just speaking in principle and of course they may have used materials that will take care of that. But as I said, just speaking in principle.

Mujtahida:
Must it be us that FIFA would direct to look for another Jersey? So the opponent say Mexico cannot be directed to look for another Jersey. It must be us. I'm just asking sha

In a fixture: Team A vs Team B. Team A assumes the position of the home team while Team B is the away team. Team A has the advantage of choosing jerseys first of which they always chose their home Jersey And Team B would now have to chose their away jersey.

Though Mexico are not in this WC. But if we are to play a Team that the Home Jersey is either Green on green or Green on white and they assume the home team position what do we do?
Since both our home and away jerseys (tops in particular) are green. We will have to look for something else to wear. It happened to Ghana at the 2006 AFCON.

FIFA cannot allow two teams to wear the same colour and play on the same pitch even if they are of different shades.

profosa:
please guys note that some of the shades of colour may have been chosen because of the weather condition in russia.different shades of colour retain heat differently.

Another dimension to look at it.

But you know the WC would be played in summer. Though the Russian summer may not be as warm as some other parts of Europe but it is not likely to be too cold all the same.

So to the physics of the colours now: Darker colours absorb heat while lighter colours reflect heat or have lesser tendencies to absorb heat.

The heat we are talking about here doesn't just mean high temperature (or hot weather). It is talking about the general atmospheric temperature (weather hot or cold)

What it literarily means is that Dark colored cloths would easily absorb the surrounding temperatures be it hot or cold. So going by this principle that dark green jersey would absorb a lot of the Russian temperature which even though it would be summer but would still be cooler than most other parts of Europe. Which will definitely be a disadvantage to us.

TheSuperNerd, I know you are science inclined. What do you have to say about this?

MetalJigsaw:
That's wrong bro. Nike already has light green shorts reserved in case such scenario occurs.

Are you a representative of Nike? How do you know about that?

TheSuperNerd:
They were not trying to copy detail for detail Chief Icon4s... When I mention '94 Eagles, I refer mainly to the 90s..... I refer to the era of the first Golden Generation. It surely is not restricted to just 94... I use '94 because that is like the centre of what that era in the 90s epitomised.

Take a look at the '94 jersey (the white) and '95 Jersey (vs England) again... And you will see that different little elements were brought out of both and merged into this one model that we have as the light green/white combo... That is what I mean.

Pinnick is trying to connect the present young Generation of the Super Eagles to the Spirit of the first Golden era. That is my whole point.

You just they twist your words dey go. I just dey look you. Do you know how many jerseys we used in the 1990 to 95 era? If you are referring to the 1994 Jersey just stick to it. If it the 1992 or 95 jersey, just stick to it.

After all I dey my own dey think about our next Flying Eagles, na you come say make come talk about Jersey.

I was not so eager to see the new Jerseys in the first place.

TheSuperNerd:
Not usually my style to quote the same post twice but....

Like seriously Chief? Fifa will not approve of our designs? One is clearly deep green and the other is clearly lighter with a mix of white and light green...

Clearly FIFA won't hace a problem with our jerseys now, would they? Lolll... This is funny. Why do these jerseys get you so worried Chief?

Come on... Take a really good long look at them again oooo... Loolll

Hahaha dey there. In 2006 AFCON Ghana was forced by CAF to change their jerseys in their last group game, I have forgotten the opponent. Their two Jersey options clashed with both options of their opponents who were the home team in the fixture. They had to quickly organize an all black Jersey for that game.

The Jerseys are beautiful to the eyes. I only have issues with (1) the shades of green and (2) fact that the two options are both green. I hope we will not be forced to look for another Jersey to play an opponent just like the Ghana case. That is what I mean by FIFA not approving.

TheSuperNerd:
Uhmmmm.... Are you sure the deep green is pur away jersey? It is customary to unveil the home jersey before the away jersey... Or am I missing something? *scratches head*

And no matter the confusion on which is home or away, the point remains that both still represent our national colors only in different shades or different color thickness/intensities.

The Light green/White combo is an attempt to connect our Russia bound Eagles to the Spirit of '94- our first golden generation.

The deep green is an attempt to bring out our deeper personalities and limitless deep qualities and showcase it on the world stage. It is all symbolic and I think the choices made are okay to me.

That light green and white combo is no where close to the design of the 1994 WC. Instead it is closer to the one the Flying Eagles used at the 1995 AYC and the one Nigeria used against England at Wembley in 1995.

Mujtahida:
FIFA has a way to sort this out IF at all it happens as you have assumed. I don't think it's an issue.

Of course there would always be a away out.
But know that one of the outcomes would be to compromise on your desired color or Jersey combo.

Now if you say that is not an issue, why is the unveiling of the jerseys an issue in the first place?

We should have just waited till the Poland friendly and say "ow so these are the new Jerseys"?

TheSuperNerd:
I believe the one on Mikel is the home kit.

No, no. That is the away jersey.

The flamboyant one Iwobi has on is the home.

You see the confusion.?

If it were simply Green and White sets now. We for don end this discussion since.

TheSuperNerd:
Well.... To be fair, the video showed Mikel, and the other three young Eagles absolutely loving the deep green home jersey.

But when the light green/white combo away jersey was unveiled, they kinda took things diplomatically and Iwobi said, "Weelll uhmmmm, this is different."

Ndidi said it was nice and cultural (referring to the away jersey of light green/white combo) and said he cannot wait to dorn both jerseys at the WC.

Chief Icon4s, Green is our color. Be it lemon green, Golden Green, Deep/dark green, light green, normal green or so.

Green is one of our major national color symbols. Look at the color of our vegetation and agricultural lands and tell me the dominant color. Is it just Light green?

I think this deep shade of green brings out a unique deeper side to our personality and reputation as a football nation. Deep green is among the colors of our vegetation and grasslands and I believe the depth of this green on our home jersey is to bring out symbolically the deep limitless richness of our football culture and our country's agricultural inclinations.

It is just the way I see it... Maybe Pinnick got his own explanation. Lol ! You may never know...

You can see that even you are confused on which is the home and away jersey. How can home and away jerseys be green(different shades of green). I wouldn't be surprised to hear that FIFA didn't approve of it .

tbaba1234:
I am Austin Mgbolu, NTA news...

Austin Mgbolu, Sports Journalist is dead... Another loss to Nigerian football.

Yet another loss.

May his soul RIP. Amen.

MetalJigsaw:
our normal green should be mentained. the kit is even more confusing as both shirts are green .which one is the home kit for gods sake ！！！？？？

Thank you. How can both sets of Jerseys be green? Will FIFA even accept this sef? Let us not get ourselves embarrassed o.

TheSuperNerd:
I believe our home jersey is the deep green/darkest green Jersey

Now you are beginning to see why I said Pinnick doesn't know what he is doing. How can he change our away jersey to deep green?

All in the name of fashion

That cannot be our home green because it is not our colour. I mean how can this be our home green Jersey?

soetanoreoluwa:
I understand you better now... Thanks...

OK. UWC

Abusule007:
With this our new kit, i think our first match against Croatia, we'll be wearing the deep green because i don't think we can wear white shots with Croatia since their home Jersey also have white shots.

You understand. Because it is Croatia Vs Nigeria. Their home Jersey is the Red and white design (draft) top and white shorts. So we will have to wear the deep green up and down.

soetanoreoluwa:
What about this...

Which one is home and which is away?

The one Mutiu and Okocha are wearing is the home while one Amokachi is wearing is the away.