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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:16pm On Jan 27, 2018
Humility017:
I have said this before....letting go of nancho gonna be the most stupid thing Leicester management will ever do...

he can go on loan but not outright sale...that boy is a finisher...a lad wit an eye for goals always....

the problem is the English kid in the CF role...few coaches have the guts to bench English players in their team even when they're tired or not playing well.
No Leicester coach would play Iheanacho ahead of Vardy. Vardy is that good. Not because he is English.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:14pm On Jan 27, 2018
FAMILY247:
Please someone should post the highlight of falconet versus South Africa
For where?

I don't think any media outfit aired the game.

You may just get one captured by an individual's amateur footage.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:05pm On Jan 27, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
That is if he gets to start in the next EPL game sef.... sad

But shaa... it should not be overblown. wink He is one of our golden boys no doubt hence the big views this thread gets any time it is "Nacho time". grin
His overall involvement in play was really excellent today. I don't think Puel would be willing to let go of him this January.

He has always been my first choice CF for the world cup.

I hope he and Iwobi would continue to improve on their games as we approach the world cup. V. Moses, Iwobi and Iheanacho would be our major weapons of destruction and of course with the big man Mikel pushing those dangerous touches towards them.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:59pm On Jan 27, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
I quite agree with you Chief. That south African team we beat are actually very good. Really surprised we reached 6-0 sef. I was expecting a win but not 6-0. Mehn...the girls really went into another gear today oooo. Rasheedat is the next biggest star from Nigerian women football but that IMO and Ijamilusi look like really special talents too.
I saw their first game against Tanzania live at the Samuel Ogbemudia stadium in Benin.

Rashidat, Ijamilusi and a girl that wore number 7 were just too good.

Imo(hope I am not mistaking her identity) is a big striker but not really so smart or sharp. I hope she doesn't battle weight problems too soon.

Overall a good team. I expect Omidiji to be drafted in now since they have qualified. I am not suggesting an automatic shirt but the coaches need to give her a fair chance just like they did for Courtney Dike.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:35pm On Jan 27, 2018
junnyjake:
I no follow for onigbinde yarn o. Lolzz

The coaches should be the ones responsible for educating their selves now. Which was why I said they should hustle.

Wasn't it Siasia who went for a coaching course before the last Olympics?
You get the point.

Onigbinde is still leaving in 1990.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:32pm On Jan 27, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Sir Goldfish80.... here is your man to tackle if the case of someone calling Nacho World class ever erupts... just mark and remember the moniker... grin He is the one and only Realpoacher ooooo....

As for me You know I don't agree he is world class... and I am sure even Realpoacher just dey talk to make una talk... grin

But for future reference... hold am ooo. Don't say I said or TheGoodJoe said or some people here said... MBA oooo... na just one person.... and here he is... he is all yours grin cheesy

Meanwhile..... Nacho, Rasheedat and the Falconets and Super Ndidi nwam.... una do well wink
With all these celebrations of Iheanacho tonight I wonder what will happen here if he scores a hartrick in his next EPL game.

Just thinking.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:28pm On Jan 27, 2018
junnyjake:
Forget that man.

But I would really love to see our Ex-internationals like Siasia, Eguaveon, Finidi hustle for UEFA coaching badge, so we can see what they are capable of out there, just like we've seen the late (Keshi, Amodu) and now oliseh and Amuneke of recent.
So is it the NFF that will train them on how to secure that UEFA coaching badge?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:27pm On Jan 27, 2018
tbaba1234:
Clubs and the coaches themselves should be in charge of personal improvement not the NFF.
Exactly.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:26pm On Jan 27, 2018
junnyjake:
Not trying to sound disrespectful to the old man, but I've found some of his prepositions of late nonsensical.
The only good thing worthy of note I feel he has done was his involvement in football development in The Gambia.

We overrated him when he was made coach in 2002.

I still remember that his response on why he didn't shout out instructions to his players at the 2002 WC: "I have already told them what to do when they get to the pitch".
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:06pm On Jan 27, 2018
Humility017:
that old man can be annoying sometimes...he said same thing when rohr was appointed.....
As if he did anything when he was appointed coach in 2002.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:04pm On Jan 27, 2018
oloriooko:
Congrats to the gals for thrashing SA 6-0
Was supposed to be at the stadium to watch that game this evening but other things came up.

From their previous games I have watched, those girls are good.

They beat Tanzania 9-0 and then SA 8-0.

Another generation of quality female players has emerged.
Can't wait to see them in France later this year.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:54pm On Jan 27, 2018
Humility017:

NFF has totally failed - Onigbinde
by Editor on January 27, 2018



Former Super Eagles coach, Chief Adegboye Onigbinde has expressed dismay over Nigeria Football Federation (NFF)’s appointment of ex-Sweden female national team coach, Thomas Dennerby to handle the Super Falcons.

Onigbinde said the appointment was a clear indication that the Amaju Pinnick-led NFF has admitted failure in the area of training Nigerian coaches. There had been public outcry over NFF’s hiring of a foreign coach to replace the coach Florence Omagbemi-led technical crew that led the Falcons to win the last AFCON title in Cameroun.
Onigbinde noted that if the NFF had concentrated its efforts in exposing and impacting technical knowledge on Nigerian coaches, the body would have credible managers that would be able to compete favorably with their foreign counterparts at this point in time.

The erstwhile FIFA and CAF instructor said that overemphasis in hiring foreign coaches for Nigeria national teams would affect the development of domestic players, adding that the dearth of producing quality coaches in the country also killed the process of discovering and grooming talented footballers.

Onigbinde, who wondered why the NFF would appoint a foreign coach for the Super Falcons after emerging African champions with domestic coaches over the years, declared that the federation would have invested more on Nigeria trainers to excel at the global level.

“The appointment of a foreign coach for the Super Falcons is admission of total failure by the NFF. Instead of investing more resources to technically groom Nigeria coaches, they prefer to spend it on foreign coaches. Because of lack of assistance on the part of the NFF, Nigeria have only few coaches in CAF training while countries like Ghana has produced 5000 coaches. The country exposes more coaches to international training.

“When appointing a foreign coach for the Falcons, did the NFF know much about his credentials? Does the coach know much about developing and working with Africa players? These are things NFF should look out for. It is really a shame that some of the foreign coaches I train when I was FIFA and CAF instructor come to the country to look for job. They are even rated than our domestic coaches,” he said.

Speaking further, Onigbinde said: “NFF need to focus more on training Nigerian coaches because a country cannot produce good students if the teachers are half-baked. I have travelled round the continent and I do not think there is a country that has better players and coaches than Nigeria.

The only problem is how to put the basic infrastructure to bring out the best. This can only be achieved through the NFF. If the right step are not taking, coaches would continue to beg Nigeria-born foreign-based players to play for the country when we have abundant talents that are not well monitored. Looking inwards and impacting more knowledge to our coaches would go a long way in repositioning our football.”

source: soccernet.com.ng
Onigbinde shift go one corner make we see road fes.


Iheanacho's goals today means our build up to the WC is very much on track.

Kudos to Ndidi as well.

Good to know that Success made the bench today.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:00am On Jan 26, 2018
Kog45:
Ok getting your stand now but why restructuring or scrapping?
One of the major aims of this CHAN is to unearth players who due to the preponderance of Foreign based players in their national team never got opportunity to show-case their abilities and get noticed by the national team handlers. But the tournament, Nigeria and other West African teams for example, is dominated with players who are very not likely to gain the attention of the National team handlers no matter what. This although has benefited teams from Eastern and Southern Africa more.

Another aim is to help develop the local league in the participating countries but instead it has become another spring board for players to move to foreign countries thereby depleting the league the more. Particularly for teams from West Africa.

No West African team has ever won it. You know why ? They present "B" teams to play against "A" teams from East, Central, Southern African and to some extent North African countries. We should restructure it here to get a level playing field.

This tournament is accorded 3 ranking points same as what we have in the regular AFCON. The first time the ranking points were awarded to CHAN teams was at the 2014 CHAN. But then it was just 1point. Making it equivalent to friendlies. But now it has been upgraded to 3points! Meaning that teams like Sudan, Namibia, Angola etc are going to get high ranking points if they get as far as the semis. And Ivory coast and Cameroon who we know are African power houses are going to plunge in the rankings. What if a team like Namibia or Sudan get to the final or eventually wins it. Their ranking will soar and when CAF wants to do seedings for a next competition like qualifiers or AFCON, Namibia and or Sudan can be seeded while teams like CIV , Nigeria and Cameroon would be placed in other pots. And of course you know the implication of this.

My recommendation is this tournament should be restructured to an U21 tourney that will be played during end of season and it should involve all players whether local or foreign based.

And that means FIFA will not award ranking points for it. Which I am OK with. The AFCON is there already for the ranking points.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:30am On Jan 26, 2018
Kog45:
I'm not saying we should not take it serious but you sound like we should have take Egypt approach just to maintain our already poor ranking or what are you trying to say Sir.
I am of the opinion that CAF should either restructure it or scrap it. Period.

Not that we should not participate.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:20am On Jan 26, 2018
Kog45:
Thank you.I just don't know why some guys are taking the issue of ranking serious this time around to the extent of trying to label our participation in CHAN as a misplaced of priority.

The FIFA ranking with the main Eagles is non issue to them but with CHAN Eagles is an issue.
You know the FIFA ranking is used for seeding of teams in both FIFA and CAF organized tournaments.

And I am sure you know the importance of seedings.

I am sure you also know that we have always shown concerns about the rankings when the Super Eagles play. So because the CHAN team is playing we should look away and not think of rankings?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:16am On Jan 26, 2018
dkay51:
But didn't we gain points for the wins against Libya and EQG, don't just paint the part of the picture that suits your narrative that's just misrepresenting the facts.

The same way an Iceland can leapfrog an Italy if they do well at the World Cup.
After playing all our group games our current rankings points is about 30+ below the previous month's. The draw against Rwanda did the damage. We didn't gain much points from beating Libya and E. Guinea because they are poorly ranked teams.

You gain good points when you beat a team ranked above you.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:15pm On Jan 25, 2018
safarigirl:
lol...last time I go village na 2002, I can barely even speak Aro Igbo. It's why I said my dad is good with Efik
OK I see.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:03pm On Jan 25, 2018
safarigirl:
lol, my brother, na so we see am. I would've asked my dad, he speaks very good Efik, but he travelled

I know Abasi, but that's how far I know
Emmm let me try.

It should be something like "Abasi Tufiakwa!!!". Lol!

I give up. TheGoodJoe "dimi ise. Nta Uko Efik".

Safari but I know Atani/Aro people to be good with the Efik/ Ibibio language how come you are different?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:55pm On Jan 25, 2018
tbaba1234:
He coached Swedish women team for 7 years and has an extensive experience in swedish clubs
If so then, let's give him a trial.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:54pm On Jan 25, 2018
safarigirl:
Thegoodjoe, or anyone who has a good understanding of Efik, please, what is "God forbid" in Efik?
Abasi!......emmmmm .....ush


Sorry I only understand Anang and not Efik.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:50pm On Jan 25, 2018
Danielnino00:
Thomas Dennerby

Personal information
Date of birth 13 August 1959 (a
Place of birth Enskede, Sweden

Playing position Midfielder

Club information
Current team: No Club

Senior career*
Years Team A
1977–1985 Hammarby IF
1985–1987 Spårvägens IF


Teams managed
Värtans IK
Spårvägens FF
Hammarby IF (assi
Hammarby IF DFF
2003–2004 Djurgården/Älvsjö
2005–2012 Sweden (women)
2013 Hammarby IF




Source: Wikipedia
I wanted to kick against this, but when I tried to see who among the female national team handlers to recommend and remembered how we have been failing woefully at the most recent World women's championships I just thought we should give this a trial.

However, we can attach either of Eucharia Uche, Florence Omagbemi or Mercy Akhide to work as chief choach, just like the Rohr - Salisu kinda arrangement.

But also I hope they have enough finance to fund this?

The women games are not as frequent as those of the men. The last time the Falcons played was the 2016 AWC. Can they keep a foreign coach and pay him for that long a period without engagements?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:16pm On Jan 25, 2018
bengine:
Wasn't this the same guy that was playing for super eagles under Oliseh going for trials!!! This is a joke..
Because they were busy keeping slots for home based players rather than selecting the best.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:39pm On Jan 25, 2018
tbaba1234:
If a local player performs well in the under 20 WC , it will do far more for the club than CHAN.

Some of our players have reached the age where they are not going abroad again.
You are even going far. AYC sef. It was their performances at the AYC that saw Uche Nwofor and Okechukwu Uchebo move to Europe from Enugu Rangers. Same goes for Chidi Osuchukwu.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:36pm On Jan 25, 2018
Kog45:
Sir i thought Keshi was a bribery laden coach but on Nwofor situation he didn't take bribe like he took in the case of Uchebo and others or what do you think.

I remeber amoniker was telling us Keshi was doing it to have something to fall on during retirement and you thumb him up but on Nwofor the same Keshi did well.
He was talking about the 7 home based players slot. Rumors had it that Keshi struck a deal with those players so as to get a share from their transfer fees when the money bags start coming. Which was why he kept fielding them to raise their market values.

I was not referring to him taking bribes from Uchebo, Nwofor or anybody.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:31pm On Jan 25, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
My point is that he scored zero senior goals at Heerenveen which was prior to the world cup, so how can u compare him to Iheanacho's situation? If this was any other player who scored a brace in a novelty match against SA u would call him a flash in the pan, so what make Nwofor special? Don't forget Sunday Mba helped us lift the nations cup and didn't make the wc team.
He earned his call up from his performances in VVV Venlo.
Just like Iheanacho earned his call up from his performances at City.

I am bringing Iheanacho into the equation as just like the argument of some other players having better stats at their respective clubs than Nwofor so also are some other players currently having better stats than Iheanacho yet he is a favorite to make it to the World Cup.

The Nelson Mandela Challenge is never a mere Novelty game. It was like a cup final in terms of expectations and intensity of the game. Infact it was a final.

And yes Uche Nwofor ended up being a flash in the pan. That still underlines the fact that most junior internationals never leave up to their expectations.

Please watch the video highlights of that game and tell me such quality should have been ignored for misfiring Ujah, Ideye and Eneramo.
For the John Ogu fans watch as he displayed his usual trade marks wink


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRSMfsf0cPc
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:48pm On Jan 25, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
But he was not at Venlo before the world cup and he had no senior goals by then
He was at VVV Venlo up till the summer of 2013 where he scored 8 senior goals in his penultimate season before being loaned to Heerenveen in the 2013-2014 season.

A player that scored a brace in 2013 in only his second game. Anthony Ujah who is being tagged today as having a better stat than him never scored a single goal in his 7 appearances for the Super Eagles. Brown Ideye and Anthony Ujah flopped big time at the Confed Cup held in that same 2013. There came a young forward in Uche Nwofor and he scored a brace in the Nelson Mandela Challenge in only his second game for Nigeria and you say that is not enough to keep him in the team?

With strikers like Ideye, Ujah and Eneramo out of favor Nwofor making the team to the World Cup was not out of place.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m):
goldfish80:
But in the not so distant past, the main Super Eagles managed to scrap past Ethiopia, Swaziland, Guinea, Congo Kinshasa etc They even lost a friendly to Uganda in kaduna and haven't managed to to qualify for Afcon back to back.
You talk as if We have been beating these African countries silly.
Libya is grouped with us , can you stake your neck that the main team will collect all 6 points from the Libyans?
They better do, if not the knives will be out.
"In not so distant past" you said. In not so distant past that Oliseh would rather play a Paul Onobi and bench Mikel Obi. That same not distant past that Oliseh would rather force a Silvester Igboun on us rather than play Sonne Aluko, that Gbolahan Salami was our best striker. Keshi keeping slots for home based players whether they merited it or not.

Keshi, Oliseh and Siasia's team selections finished us. "My boys, My boys" sentiments.

That is gone now. Rohr is in charge. No home based sentiments. Only the best will be invited irrespective of whether you are home based or foreign based.

On beating Libya home away, football is no mathematics.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:25pm On Jan 25, 2018
realpoacher:
Thanks
Happy Birthday bro
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:50pm On Jan 25, 2018
kennysville:
Its called retirement policy.... if you get what I mean
Your head dey there

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:46pm On Jan 25, 2018
EEGA:
Name a player in the Super Eagles then that Aremu was better than?
That is it. You cannot call for a player's inclusion if he is not better than the key player for that position including the backups.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:44pm On Jan 25, 2018
safarigirl:
hardwork at the expense of who? So, the guys who are working hard but are not in the league, they should not be rewarded?

Who even told you that these CHAN people worked hard for this opportunity? Do you know how many players better than the likes of Okpotu and Ali were passed up so that some select few can shine unmerited shining? What happened to the hardwork of those people?

We should learn to reward hardwork, but not at the expense of competence. These are not even the best players in the league, if you want to reward hardwork, do it on a level playing field where the best compete against the best.

I have told you people, the next friendlies will not be for anybody outside Europe, remember how Alampasu was dropped for Ajiboye because Ajiboye was in the location the game was to be played and Alampasu was in Europe? That is what will play out in March
People are always so quick to call for this player or that player's inclusion. Who did this CHAN team play against? Rwanda, Libya and E. Guinea. Teams that are not even in top 20 in Africa. Goldfish has even said Orji has performed better than Balogun. Na wa o. Na make we kuku drop Balogun and carry Orji to World Cup.

The better players from the league who have secured better contracts in Europe but have not even been considered for the Super Eagles who will reward them?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:35pm On Jan 25, 2018
Kog45:
Sir you are free to air your opinion cos even if we are not on the same page is a must for me to respect it and that's has been my unique selling point here or as anybody said i disrespect his opinion..

On Ezenwa that's my opinion but i will not come here to post a comment to disrespect him just cos i don't rate him.
Yes, lets respect everybody's opinion.

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