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mumemma:
He has a toe injury.

When did he sustain this?

Iheanacho not on the starting line up for Leicester Vs Brighton and Hove Albion.

Danycrusoe:
Guys is this boy not the same boy in 10??

Yeah. Looks like he is o.

if he is same person then kudos to the NFF but if he is not we need to send the EFCC after them. How can they say this kid is too old for U15?

Humility017:
but some of these first team players are match rusty nah they've not been playing...like Moses Simon, omeruo, and even musa

Match rusty as how?
How old is the season?
Bros no be so players selection be o.

Humility017:
yeah...sure
but we too....should not turn a blind eye to their exploits....
especially yinka....he is always in the build up to their team goals....
very selfless an hardworking...

The major change I expect to see in the squad is the return of the senior players that missed the SA game.

It is very unlikely that Rohr will call-up Olayinka and Bonaventure.

They should keep doing their thing. I am sure Rohr and his crew are observing.

Humility017:
just leave him...sometimes my brother talk as if he is unaware of Nigeria success in the last under 23 Olympics and nations cup....
also our past successful outing in under 17 world cup murdial...
he thinks the only best players are those Nigerians in England...born and raised there

See that is his own.

Me I don't count my chickens before they are hatched. I Only talk of players who have allegiance to Nigeria.

I know him to be in the habit of rubbishing Nigerian grown players. To him Nigeria's best players are those born in England that have not been featured by Nigeria. If he doesn't change that his mindset he will continue to lament here.

Humility017:
sir have u watched Bonaventure and olayinka highlights these season?
presently no wingers in super eagles except V Moses playing better than them....
yinka possibly should be among the highest assists in the jupiler league by now...
so why not call them and give them a chance...considering the fact that Moses Simon has not been playing since the start of these season.....
I just don't understand rohr aversion for the Belgian league.....

Rohr has the final say.

However I would not be surprised if they are not invited neither would I be disappointed.

Joebie:
I think as far as having a rookie train with the big boys, let Bonaventure get the chance this time. Let it be rotational. lol Osimhen should concentrate on starting the season well with Watford. Then he gets another chance in future.

See, forget about keeping any slot for any rookies for training. We need 23 players who are capable of making game impacts.

Alampasu not likely to make the squad this time. That is a pointer to how the coaches would want to execute this Cameroon games.

komekn:
The purpose of am age graded tournament I would like to think is to push your success to the senior team.

In that regard how far have the Argentinian players progressed individually and collectively since 2008, that is the true test of success.

There are players that excel at youth level but struggle to make the step up to the senior game. That's why when you see a teenager making waves in the men's game, you sit up and watch. The reason, it is no longer speculation but confirmed and proven quality with much more to come.

That's why I would say the 2005 Nigerian U20 team was the most successful so far.

As if you don't know over 90% of our current Super Eagles regulars were raised from our youths system.
Is that not succession?

komekn:
When you say, take the world by storm What it means is that we have some world class U21 players who should be making big waves in football.

I am not trying to burst the bubble but when I think of World class U21 players I can talk about Mbappe, Dembele, Bamidele Alli, Gabriel J., Martial, Asensio,
as in top 10 players.

Within the top 50 I would include KC, Iwobi, but apart from these two who else do we have that is currently cutting it at the moment

There you go. You said "at the moment" I am talking about 3 years time. IE 2020 Olympics. I know the journey starts from now so I expect a lot to have happened from now to then. Players who are eligible to play at the 2020 Olympics are 20yrs and below today. We may not have a player within that age among top 10 in the world now but you must also understand that we have a pool of quality players that currently fall within that age that are expected to have matured significantly by 2020.

You cannot say you have good wishes for Nigerian football and start off with such a negative and defeated mind set.

Our 2016 Olympics team never had any young players in top 100 yet they finished 3rd.

Our 2008 Olympics team never had a player U23 within top 100 yet we narrowly lost to that heavily stars studded Argentina team.

When it comes to Nigerian young players I am usually conservative with my expectations but even so withing me I still feel we can still achieve a lot with the crop we have already if they can live up to expectations.

Nigeria is always a force to be reckoned with at youth level so I expect a lot from the next class of Dream Team.

tbaba1234:
Finidi George has applied to coach Nigeria's youth teams. With his experience coaching youth teams in holland and spain, he is a great choice. It is good that he has decided to come back home but i hope he remembers the conditions at home are not as ideal as coaching a youth side abroad.

I would give him the under 20 team to manage.

NFF, the U20 please.

Joebie:
well Siasia is a confident coach. From his track record he is good tactically and hardly intimidated by the name of the opponent. All the coaches we have mentioned are good in their own right. I think the U23 coaching job is a part time one since te tournament is held every 4 years and there is hardly any activity at the U23 level besides Olympics preparation. Which is why I think Siasia should handle both. He has a good track record with both as well

Scouting is one thing. Coaching is yet another. Obuh can be saddled with scouting for us at all levels.

Siasia cannot handle both U20 and U23 because the 2019 Flying Eagles and 2019 AAG/ 2020 Olympics team will exist concurrently and play competitions concurrently.

The AYC qualifiers starts early next year and climax early 2019 with the AYC. The WYC takes place June 2019. Meanwhile AAG preparations and camping starts late 2018 with the AAG qualifiers to commence early 2019 and also Olympics qualifiers starts early 2019. The AAG holds 3rd quarter of 2019 and by this time the Olympics qualifiers would have reached an advanced stage already. The CAF U23 holds December 2019.

So you see, the U20 and U23 team will be active concurrently so they need two different coaching crews.
Players who excel from the 2019 U20 set would be invited for selection with the 2020 U23 team

Remember also how it was with the 2015 Flying Eagle and 2015AAG/2016 Olympics team?

Joebie:
That's the "my boys" factor.
it seems most players from the U20 class of Turkey 2013 were not given a chance. (John Obuh boys)
Here is the list (Bolded were given a chance):

Okani, Ndidi, Madu, Shehu, Okorie, Aminu, Michael, Kayode, Ajagun, Gero, Agboyi, Usman, Falagha, Amaefule, Eduok (I remember had age discrepancies), Pyagbara, Orkuma, Osuchukwu, Egbedi, Agbo, Simon

Usman was in the team.

Ndidi and Simon were exempted due to clubs engagement.

Michael Olaitan was still recovering from his then health issues.

Considering also the fact that Omeruo, Onazi, Musa, Nwofor, Azeez also played under Obuh he has produced a lot of talents and I feel we may need to reconsider him as one of our youths coaches. U20 or U23.

Joebie:
There is always a "his boys" factor. But let's not forget he gave many players a chance before Rio. If not for European clubs refusing to release many.

Is there any player you have in mind, he didn't give a chance?

He didn't give Olanrewaju Kayode a chance. Instead he kept faith with rookies like Awoniyi and Osimhen only to drop them later.

I even rated (till now) Kayode above Sadiq Umar.

Also Abdul Ajagun deserved a chance.

He preferred to play Sincere Seth at CB when Kenneth Omeruo was available for selection.

Joebie:
I think Siasia is our best at the U20/U23 level.
Amuneke has already said he is done with underage coaching.
I'm satisfied with Manu Garba for U17 if he goes back to his old ways of doing things.
And Nkiru Bala as U15.

There is no need to change what is already working.

But Siasia too has his own o.

He is no doubt an excellent tactician and his teams typically play total football.

But my problem with him is still players selection. You know he always keeps faith with "his boys".

Manu should remain U17 coach while Siasia takes the U23. We'll shop for an U20 coach from amongst our experienced local coaches.

Joebie:
Listed Left-Wing as main position. Also, Attacking midfield and Right-Wing

A good prospect then.
Will follow him henceforth.

Joebie:
He was available for selection before the 2015 U17 World Cup.

Amuneke publicly said he doesn't believe the hype. The boy should come down on his own and compete with the others.

No official invitation. lol

Yeah. I recall.

I have issues with Amuneke's players selections.

The next U23 coach would really need to do justice with players selections. We currently have a large pool of 18 to 20 years olds that can take the world by storm at the 2020 Olympics.

Joebie:
Rosenborg Newboy Adegbenro Steals The Headline With Debut Goal Against Ajax
August 17, 2017020

Samuel Adegbenro got off to a flying start with his new Norwegian side by scoring the lone goal in their 1-0 win over European giants Ajax at the Amsterdam Arena.

Adegbenro joined Rosenborg 72 hours ago from fellow Norwegian side Viking for a fee in the region of €1.5m, and was named on the bench for their Europa League qualifiers against Ajax.

The 21 year old proved his money worth ‎nine minutes after coming on with the only goal of the game in the 77th minute to hand Rosenborg a shock 1-0 win.

Adegbenro will no doubt be pinning for a start when the host the return leg next week in Norway, where a win will see them progress to the group stage of the Europa League.

Osas Mahawi


--OwnGoalNigeria

What position does he play?

Joebie:
Nigerian-Born Liverpool Winger Adekanye Named In Netherlands Squad
Published: August 18, 2017
Nigerian-Born Liverpool Winger Adekanye Named In Netherlands SquadIbadan-born winger Bobby Adekanye is set to return from the international wilderness after he was named in the provisional Netherlands U19 squad for their upcoming friendlies.

The 18-year-old has not featured for the Dutch youth teams after suffering an ankle ligament injury while on international duty with the U17 squad in 2016.

KNVB coach Maarten Stekelenburg has taken note of the fact that Adekanye is in tip-top condition and included him in his provisional squad.

The Netherlands U19s will face Belgium (August 30), Portugal (September 1) and hosts Finland (September 4) during the international break.

Adekanye, who has caps for Netherlands U16 and U17 national teams, has not ruled out playing for the country of his birth, Nigeria, in future.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

--ANS

I hope a lot of these guys would be available for selection for our next dream team (2019 AAG and 2020 Olympics).

[quote author=Danielnino00 post=59590312][/quote]See my brother. I advocate that we use players of the right age for this age grade.

Parading under aged players will not do us any good.
The NFF cannot tell us that all the players that featured at that NPFL U15 are overraged.

I saw a couple of them who were very obviously U15.

All players of that age grade born in Nigeria are eligible to be considered for selection.
Select them first and let the MRI scan be the final judge.

If this was how the 2013 and 2015 Eaglets teams were selected players like Success and Osimhen would probably not be who and where they are today.

tbaba1234:
Our boys look their age.. We should also look at boys from the NPFL tournament. Some might be overage but certainly not all from the pictures we saw. Those boys have played a full tournament and that could be invaluable.

A good number look underaged to me.

Danielnino00:
Nigeria u-15 teams vs Morocco U-15. The game ended 1-0 and 1-1 in favour of Morocco. Mehn these Moroccans are tall oo

That number 10 fit even take shot from outside the 18yards box?

Danielnino00:
Nigeria u-15 teams vs Morocco U-15. The game ended 1-0 and 1-1 in favour of Morocco. Mehn these Moroccans are tall oo

Or you probably meant these Nigerians are short/small o.

do4luv14:
A committee should be set up to look for THESUPERDERD asap,


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No worries.

I trust he will be fine.

Probably held down due to academic work.

I mean, I don't expect him to be here all the time.

Daninya11:
Yh sir.
Reports has it that they were physically more imposing than our boys but our boys gave a good account of themselves.

Hmmmm.

Meaning there is still plenty of work to be done.

They need to throw that camp open and select about the best group of U17 players in the land.

blueto:
I think the coach wants to monitor the imminent saturday and sunday games first to see the best in form players to prosecute the game.

The coach already knows his players.

I would rather say he may want to know those among his players that will remain fit (free of injuries) after the 'imminent' weekend games.

Daninya11:
Nigeria's U15 team known as the Future Super Eagles lost by 1goal to Nil to their Moroccan counterpart in a test game Yesterday.

They are expected to play another test game Today against the Moroccans before they return Tomorrow.

Was the game against the Moroccan U15 side?

Joebie:
Actually, the player's name is Samuel Okon.

Yes but he also bears Godwin. I erroneously typed Edwin.

Joebie:
Dennis Okon nko. That left back was solid. Akwa United signed him in 2015. He was a regular in the previous season, but not heard much about him this season. Also Aliyu Abubakar, was arguably our best center back. Until now he played together with the likes of Egwuekwe and Salami in Sweden before he was loaned to an obscure league. Let's not forget Saharadeen Bello who progressed to the U23 team but did not make the cut to Rio.

The last time I heard about Edwin Okon he was about to get married.

Zaharadeen Bello is with Kano Pillars.

The defenders from that FIFA U17 WC crop have not progressed well.

Humility017:
so pathetic....
onething about we Nigerians we over do things....all because we wanna parade young folks wit the right age....
we begin to parade under age...partly the reason for the failure of amunike and garba boys....just automatically graduating all under 17 to under 20....all with an average age of 17-18 ages.
why can't we just borrow the Germans model

Thank you.

You understand this issue perfectly.

When the Germans parade an U20 team you see over 90% as 19 and 20 years olds. But ours will be 90% 17 and 18years olds. We paraded the youngest team at the 2015 U20 where did it take us?

Apart from natural talent age matters a lot in football. That is why FIFA separate U17s from U20s. Europeans separate U19 from U21.

The way the NFF are going about it we will parade the youngest ever U17 squad and be prouding ourselves in it only to crash out at the 1st round of qualifiers. Then subsequently the players will be discarded and that generation goes like that thereby creating another gap in the system.

This is a pix of the 2013 Eaglets taken in 2012 just at the commencement of the U17 qualifiers. Do a comparison with pix above.

See the stars studded back row

They look like boys that are well "Drilled" and ready to blow. Unlike the pix above that looks like a primary school team on an excursion.

Danycrusoe:
even in the next two years they can be a part of the u17 team

The thing is the U17 qualifiers starts some time in April/May next year. Is it these kids that we are going to start the qualifiers with?
I am not saying we should age-cheat, after all there is MRI. It is not that we should just pack toddlers and make up a team because of the fear of MRI. Majority of the next U17 set should be 14-15 years old now. Meanwhile Majority of Those boys is that pix are obviously less than 14. Especially those in from row look more like 11-13 to me. Ok look at that number 6. He looks like some one in primary school. Is that a kind of player you want to take to say Bamako to face the intimidating crowd and scotching sun?