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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:05am On Aug 16, 2017
Humility017:
not at all.....
they're so young...by then they will likely be 15, 16 years old at most...
I think the nff are just carried away wit the money that accrued to them via the competition where the boys were selected from...having being sponsored by zenith bank...
I will suggest the zenith bank tournament be merged wit the npfl promise under 15 tournament...and solely sponsored by zenith bank or alteco group....
Many of those boys I am seeing there look 12-13 years old. I mean look at those kids kneeling down in the front row do they look like boys who can play U17 qualifiers next year?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:42pm On Aug 15, 2017
Danycrusoe:
The guys are way too young 4 Mri. The official was only finding an excuse
can these ones in this pic be able to compete as U16-U17 next year?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:06pm On Aug 15, 2017
Danycrusoe:
those guys are very very young secondary school kids
We saw them naa.

They just want to screen out those boys to create chances for their own academy boys.

Tomorrow now they will present one mumu U17 team that will be losing to lowly rated footballing nations
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:44pm On Aug 15, 2017
Humility017:
I was opportune to have a discussion wit one of the nff too personality during preceding week....
he revealed to me....on how the under 15 will travelling for some football matches...
I asked him..how about the youngsters just discovered from the immediate past under 15 NPFL promise tournament...
he laughed it off...
telling me they're too old...
I tried convince him but he told me....they're the ones there...they know what's playing around...
I wasn't happy and I felt they should be need to integrate both talents...create a large pool of players to pick from...
I think what will help grow our youngsters is the restructuring and improved management of the domestic league....
It should js structures to absolve young players....and if possible the clubs be reduced to attain efficiency and effectiveness....private individuals and coys should wade into the management of these clubs...
This is so saddening.

Why not make the MRI scan the judge.

They will go an assembly one poor quality U17 team now and be losing to a team like Chad or Niger.
That's how they destroy our
football.

How can they say those kids we saw at the NPFL U15 tourney are too old?

It is not just enough to complain here. I need to really find out who gave that instruction.
Rubbish.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:36pm On Aug 15, 2017
Danycrusoe:
I am Danycrusoe. Single "n"
Sir Icon4s take note siR, "Danycrusoe" not "Dannycrusoe"
OK. noted.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:39pm On Aug 15, 2017
Danielnino00:
Abi oo. The NFF should just keep it up.. Develop the boys right from u-13 to u-20 and there would be no need to chase foreign born Nigerian players..
You sound like dannycrusoe. Is it you?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:19pm On Aug 15, 2017
Danielnino00:
The u-15
Wowwww.... we need the best of these boys. A fantastic grooming program too.
The next U17 qualifiers starts in the next 8months. We must not fail this time.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:24pm On Aug 14, 2017
safarigirl:
excuse me, did I say not to discuss your golden boy? I am asking what the discussion is based on and you can't provide a parameter undecided

Anyway, knock yourselves out with Kelechi


Please, did anyone else watch Swansea's game? At least Team English boys should assist on Tammy's performance
undecided
Education › Re: ASUU Strike: Update Us From Your Campus by Icon4s(m): 8:59am On Aug 14, 2017
mrhipup:
I need Jst 3week @ABU Zaria
So who will mark your exam scripts?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:13am On Aug 14, 2017
safarigirl:
based on what?

His time in City? Pre-season games? The 10-minute cameo?

Can we also discuss other players then?
Excuse me please try and follow our discussion first.

You are free to discuss any player you so chose but don't stop others from discussing what or who they want to discuss.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:08am On Aug 14, 2017
junnyjake:
Sorry, but Isaac is way behind the likes of denney, okaka, Gray, now the Brazilian kid.
I fear for Isaac Success. His career may just be on the downward trend.

He needs a life line fast.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:15pm On Aug 12, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Note. I said exceptional brilliance on the ball. Iheanacho is not the kind of player that relies on on the ball movements to create havoc. Most of his damage to the opposition comes from his off the ball movement.
Could be the reason behind the disconnect between the midfield and Iheanacho against SA?

He ran into offside positions on several occasions due to his "off the ball movements".
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:47pm On Aug 12, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Their attack came from sitting deep with most of their players behind the ball and attacking by hitting the ball long to Vardy. They can create multiple chances with the system but creative players suffer because of lack of support around them. It takes exceptional brilliance on the ball to make something off it.

As I said, maybe playing Arsenal is what made it look so awful.
Are you suggesting iheanacho doesn't have such "exceptional brilliance"?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:43pm On Aug 12, 2017
safarigirl:
I cannot believe you guys a are arguing about a ten minute cameo. What the hell is "he was signed for blah blah million and is expected to hit the ground running..." What of Morata that was signed for 70 million and lost a penalty in an important game? So, Chelsea fans should kill him?

Kelechi no even lose penalty, he was subbed in wrongly and I doubt he scored an own goal, so, what are you all arguing about?

Craig Shakespeare was subbing in a striker when Leicester needed defenders and shiiit went wrong, so, Kelechi should have right the wrongs ni?

Like Joebie said, it is much too early to be making comments on Kelechi, irrespective of what thegoodjoe said, so oga icon4s, I do not expect you to take goodjoe's bait, komekn, I can wholly understand though. Na so he dey do, bait or no bait.

However, if we are to discuss a player's performance, I believe Tammy Abraham, who played Swansea's full 90 minutes should be discussed....that is if any of you watched the game

I look forward to this season's EPL, so far, I love how the big clubs are struggling against the minnows. The season could have a surprise winner
Auntie, nobody is arguing about Iheanacho's 10 or 15 minutes action.

We are just looking at Iheanacho's chances of really making a major impact I'm the EPL this season with Leicester.

Neither TheGoodJoe, Komekn nor I mentioned anything about his last game.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:21pm On Aug 12, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

It is more of a personal choice but I prefer young promising creative/attacking talents playing under Coaches that embrace attacking style of play. It helps the players have more chances to show their quality.

Look at Dortmund for instance. You can expect five or more great scoring chances in each game.

In Leicester City, most of the few created chances falls to Vardy.

A 4-4-2 offensive strategy with Nacho pairing would have been more ideal. Or a 4-3-3 offensive set-up.

I hope Nacho excels there but the system does not look promising.

Maybe Leicester City looked that bad because Arsenal is a team that holds the ball well and are dangerous when attacking.

Maybe Leicester might look better to me in their next game. I will watch closely and give an updated verdict.
It is only clubs like Barcelona and Bayern Munich that can dominate Arsenal at the Emirates stadium.

Leicester attacked Arsenal a lot and looked really threatening until the tactical changes made by the coaches.

Leicester were not that poor overall. They are an attacking side.
It is only Arsenal and Manchester City that play the way they do. English football is typically kick and follow.
Leicester had a good game if you ask me.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:12pm On Aug 12, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

As I said, we will see how they set-up against smaller teams but that system of play Leicester City is known for is not the kind of system to groom a top quality talent.

I am interested in players developing fast than just suiting a system.
I am sure you know there are no small games in the EPL. You saw what Burnley did to Chelsea, Watford drew Liverpool, Huddersfield beat Crystal palace and even Arsenal struggled to beat Leicester City.

Even when you play a team at the lower end of the table you aim at claiming the 3 maximum points and also boost your goals difference.

Almost every game would be like a cup final.

Where teams use fringe players are cup games.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:00pm On Aug 12, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Those fans should spend more time convincing their team to adopt a better playing strategy. If Bournemouth and Swansea can play well, why can't them.
They should change their style just because they just bought Iheanacho. They should play to suit Iheanacho right?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:58pm On Aug 12, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Even players signing for top clubs with quality around them hardly hit the ground running with no delay. Then Leicester City wants to play long ball and sit deep. Then they want a player to hit the ground running with no delay.

Their team suits a defensive minded player. They should go and learn how to play ball.
Chai!!

But that pattern saw them win the 2015/2016 EPL title and took them to the quarter finals of the 2016/2017 UCL.

For Shakespeare to have gone for Iheanacho he definitely felt he could fit into the team's philosophy. Whether this turns out to be or not depends on both the player and coaching crew.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:53pm On Aug 12, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Their system always sucked but it was more obvious watching it yesterday trying to see how they could be decent.

That is why I am totally against a player moving to any club for game time. His development and growth as a player should lead the decision. I hope Nacho makes a good deal off this but as you already know, it is a system that is not built to bring the best off him.
After spending 25million Bucks on him. No let Leicester fans see this your comment o.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:43pm On Aug 12, 2017
komekn:
Leicester is not a club with lots of money swirling around.

When they buy a player they expect him to deliver NO DELAY, very quickly he must adapt and or modify his game to suit the circumstances.

That will be the expectation of the manager, the club and the fans.
This is exactly what I am talking about.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:26pm On Aug 12, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
Iheanacho is not rated higher than Mkhitaryan who was the bundesliga player of the year.
What are your expectations on Iheanacho's performance this season?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:23pm On Aug 12, 2017
Joebie:
Please its too early to say anything about Iheanacho.

He was thrown in at the wrong circumstance. That was Arsenal fighting to get back in the game. Personally, I don't think Iheanacho had any biz in that game unless he had something to offer defensively as well.

There should be no talk about Iheanacho yet, whether you are for him or not. Me I will call a spade a spade when the time comes.. But for now guys chilll
I never even commented about Iheanacho's performance in the game.

It was TheGoodJoe that was already faulting The Leicester system that it doesn't suit iheanacho's style of play.

So I had to tell him "no excuses, he is expected to deliver this season".
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:20pm On Aug 12, 2017
Joebie:
Isaac is down the pecking order. These are the youngsters we've been hoping for to rise up to the occasion. But the season has just started. Too early to say.

As regards Kayode, that's the kind of situation you find yourself when a big name/country/club offers you something. Hey, it's PEP!
Isaac Success career development has been below expectations. He needs to turn up this season else he falls further below the pecking order even in the Super Eagles.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:18pm On Aug 12, 2017
Humility017:
so how has nacho not delivered?
the boy has barely played a full 90 mins....with an assist to his name...
how many minutes did lukaku played before he bagged in a goal...ikewise lacazette
please stop trying to exonerate yourself thinking nacho is going to flop Leicester.

even messi and Ronaldo will find it difficult to cope with that leicester kind of play
What has Iheanacho delivered this EPL season?

He is EXPECTED to start delivering that is my point.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:14pm On Aug 12, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
Not every player hits the ground running, Mkhitaryan for example took some time.
A player of Iheanacho's rating is expected to hit the ground running.

This is the expectation of Leicester City fans.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:22pm On Aug 12, 2017
kennysville:
August 12 bruh
Yeah. He slumped on 12th August.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m):
TheGoodJoe:
I am not defending Iheanacho. Keep that aside. I am talking of Leicester City as a whole. Forget the goals they scored. Their football sucked. It will look good for defending players like Ndidi, Amartey, Morgan, Maguire etc but atrocious for attacking players.

I do not like Iheanacho in such system. It is not about him scoring goals or shining. It is the kind of way I want him developing with respect to the Super Eagles. I want our players playing in systems that complements what the coach is doing with the National team.
Leicester system suck?

You expected them to have dominated play against a team like Arsenal at the emirates stadium?

Besides what we saw Leicester play last night was typical of how they have been playing even the season they won the league.

See I don't expect Iheanacho to emerge a player with the highest goals or highest number of assists this season. I expect to see a descent showing. I expect him to have a better run of games unlike last Season.
I expect his number of goals to hit at least a double digit.
I need him to come to the 2018 WC as a player fit and ready to compete at that level.

I don't know what your own expectations are that you have already started condemning the Leicester system.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:36pm On Aug 12, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

If you put Lacazete behind Vardy in that system played yesterday, it will prove hard for him to perform regularly. It is Plain logic. If Iheanacho played the role Lacazete played yesterday, there I no way he would not make a big impact in the long run.

That is what I am saying.

You should not just compare players like if they are in like for like situations.
Later you'll say you are not defending Iheanacho.

When Olivier Giroud was introduced last night Lacazette went into the supporting role. So what is there?

I repeat if you insist Iheanacho is only suitable for a CF role at Leicester he will spend more time on the bench than he did at City.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:31pm On Aug 12, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
We have seen many step up. Like many. From Aguero, Messi, Ronaldinho, Willian, Alves, Fernandinho, Vidal, Forlan etc.

Many of you are quick to point out who failed. What of those who succeeded.
It is not like ALL do not step up. MOST do not step up.

From that list you stated name the ones that represented their countries at U17 level.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:28pm On Aug 12, 2017
bossto:
This guy is good...i think he deserves a call up...
Let's still follow him for now.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:26pm On Aug 12, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

I wanted Iheanacho in City or a system that plays a similar possessive and attacking style. It is some like you who feel football is about playing time.
Unbelievable!

So you would have preferred Iheanacho continued with the same treatment he received last season at City?

Only drills and no real action.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m):
TheGoodJoe:
He better quickly adjust ke. This is football he has his life ahead of him to make it right. It is not by snapping fingers.

I hope it works out for Nacho. If it does not, he can switch to a more favorable atmosphere.
You purchase a player for 25million pounds and you don't expect him to hit the ground running.

His years of apprenticeship are over. Arsenal expects Lacazette to start delivering and he has done so, Liverpool expects Mohammed Salah to start delivering and he has done so. Manu expect Lukaku to hit the ground running likewise Morata for Chelsea.
A 25 million pounds player should hit the ground running.

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