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safarigirl:
I was not trying to be rude to you. I was just asking an honest question.

I don't know how you read that, but your hostility was uncalled for. The way some people here like to reply me is very disturbing.

See as cold enter my body as i read your reply, what did I say wrong for you to attack me like this?

I am just here, itching to say a lot to you for this unnecessary attack, but I told myself I would try to avoid altercations on NL.

I want to just know why I get attacked when i ask innocent questions and nobody attacks others like this.

Cc Icon4s, tbaba123, joebie, thegoodjoe, thesupernerd. Please, someone explain this to me, let me understand the order of the day on this thread.

Are we all going to be petty? So, once we have disagreements with each other you have to consequently treat the other person like a leper?

I used to think women are pretty, but the men on this thread take it to a whole new level, I am starting to think there are other ladies here

Hmm... but sis let me first correct one impression. Nobody is attacking you here bc of your gender.

I would even say you are one of the most respected and pampered here.

We don't expect all comments to be pleasant. But what do we do? You either ignore, Overlook and make your own comment, or give it back to the person hot (which I would not recommend).

For you to enjoy conversation here, I discovered that you have to forget your age, gender and social status.

Often times when you safarigirl makes a comment I forget that you are even a lady.Thouggh they are mostly short they often make so much sense. In fact they typically come as thought provoking arrows. Lol!

I know Bascovanveli pretty well he is one of the gentle men we have here. He is not the confrontational type. But once in a while we as humans react harshly to certain comments thrown at us. We all do it here , though to varying degrees.

So please our first lady do not feel hurt in any way. Though we all cannot agree on every issue but we are still friends and we are chatting together for one goal- for the benefit of our football.

TheGoodJoe:
You are missing the point. The context of the bulk up is in respect of body building in the gym to make the player bigger and stronger to cope with the rigorous EPL. It also involves eating carbs to make the player thicker. It has nothing to do with natural growth.

I said this method will not work out well for Onyekuru because it will slow him down.

This a lifestyle thing, not black or white. Look at Abidal. He is very trim although he is black. This is due to his lifestyle.

it has nothing to do with natural growth?

The player in question is a 19yr old so natural growth has a lot to play in his build as he is still growing.

And I hope u know that making a player thicker adds to his weight?

Why are you so sure this method would not work for Onyekuru?

Eric Abidal? Show me the picture of a 19yrs old Abidal and him now.

ok

PROVERBZ:
arsenal are in deep crisis

onyekuru should avoid there ave seen harsh comment directed at him from furious fans all over face book and especially on sky sports Facebook page

he should move to the premier league but just not arsenal

Arsenal in deep crisis?

Shed more lights please.

TheGoodJoe:
You are not getting my point. I am not saying he will not get more bulky than now. I said he should not bulk up with weights. If you compare Iheanacho and Isaac Success, you can clearly see that Isaac bulked up with weight.

My point is like Ryan Giggs, maintain a healthy lifestyle and grow naturally to keep his speed.

There is no way you will bulk up that you wouldn't add weight .

Especially for a 19yrs old, expect him to get more bulky from now till he is around 23.

He cannot remain as skinny as he is even for the next 2yrs.

No body is saying he should get too fat.

And please again do not compare the build of a white man with that of a black man. Forget the Ryan Gigs example give me examples with black players.

TheGoodJoe:
I am talking about Onyekuru using weights to bulk himself. If it comes to natural build, I can understand but he needs to maintain a lightweight. A good example is Ryan Giggs. He maintained a light frame through his career.

Ryan Gigs?

That your example no work o.

We know that blacks especially sports men typically bulk up with muscles more than the whites.

Give me an example of a black man that maintained a light frame all through his career.

Arsenalholic1:
I am so happy for you fam.

More shine to your industry and talent.

The boy who left Naija as an 11-yr old with anguish and bitterness of heart. Such an incredible story of survival and determination!

Truth be told, Nigerians are dogged (Anthony Joshua comes to mind here too). If only we can channel that to productive and legal endeavors

Which bitterness?

Have you ever heard of "Aduro"?

[quote author=Iffygod post=56759394][/quote]OK.

TheGoodJoe:
What are you saying? Does not add up. My stance on Awo has not changed until now. I have watched Awoniyi miss goals over and over again. I noticed that he is good at getting into positions but his poor finishing ability restricted him from being a recognised quality talent.

I also pointed out that if he could turn his misses to goals he will go far.

Awo is also not as talented as his peers when it comes to ability with the ball. My view has not changed too. So what is the point your trying to make because I do not get it.

I hope this coach helps the young man find the back of the net regularly.

So used the fact he was not scoring goals against him does not add for me. Elaborate what you are saying.

You are on point bro.

TheGoodJoe:

I am totally against Onyekuru bulking up. He should just keep working on his speed and skills. He will achieve more doing that than slowing himself with extra luggage.

He is just 19. It is very difficult for him not to bulk up. Even Neymer the once paper weight has bulked up.

komekn:
I have a main vocation emanated from academic study with professional certification and two additional lines of interest both stemmed from experiential competencies gained.

Football and Security.

I can't tell you that with regards to Benin- City, I would loose my anonymity and the things I say I could be taken to task on and or considered a risk factor for leaks.

I am unashamedly biased in that I am involved with English football at so many levels. But that bias is an informed knowledge base one not by sentiment.

I also know that English football is intrinsically corrupt maybe more so than Nigerian football. You may find that hard to believe.

Welbeck had one bad injury but that didnt happen till he was 24+ so he is still not got too full fitness.

I cannot comment in players too much in Nigeria cause I simply do not have any indepth information on them.

However, once you get to Europe then the comparison is much easier. I will not consider you on past glories. But present continous performance and against the generally accepted terms of measurement. If that makes me biased well I plead guilty.

You still cannot compare Isaac to Sturridge and Welbeck because they gave gone so far ahead of him and achieved so much more even at a younger age than he is.

If Isaac was Oyibo he would have been slaughtered in the press as a waste of money.

Let me touch on your football and security aspect. Revealing where and when you played football in Benin is not likely to expose you in anyway here. There are so many legends of the game that lived or played in Benin. Keshi, Amodu, Oliha lived in Benin. Eguavoen still lives in Benin. Victor Igbinoba lives in Benin. And a host of many others.

Isaac Success, Elderson Echiejile, Osaze Odemwingie and Victor Moses played in Benin.

So boss, nothing to worry about.

You also mentioned you do not have indepth knowledge of Nigerian players in Nigeria. I think that sums it up. Some of us here have the indepth knowledge of those Nigerian players. So you know why we go all out to defend those boys.

Iffygod:
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It has now gone down to N8M?

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Lol! Away wins. Truly strange scorelines.

komekn:
The degree of presumptuous arrogance you express is immeasurable, the proposition is really farcical. The proposition you present is so ludicrous I am not offended but comically entertained. Consider what you are saying, You are the type - - -


How you can you assume you can pigeon hole human beings as dynamic as they are so rigidly into a definition of who, why and what the entirety of thier person is. Even a practicing experienced psychologist would not do that.

Please am I the only one that finds the comparison with Sturridge and Welbeck absurd. To remind you Sturridge started playing first team at 17 for City by the time he was 19 he played 32 games and scored 6 goals and the Chelsea bought him. Welbeck was tearing up the EPL first at Man U, then on loan at Sunderland. By the time he was 21 he had scored 17 goals from 63 games. Thier careers of both are well highlighted to present day both for England and thier respective clubs.

Under no circumstance beyond blind sentimentality can you put Isaac Success in the same category as these guys.

When did Sturridge and Welbeck become Injury prone as you put it They had already made thier mark in the game before injury seemingly has limited Sturridge but with regard to Welbeck I would not call him injury prone as such.

21 year old Isaac has not got the starting block, he has achieved nothing and he has been blighted by injury and with a tag if injury prone already. Statistics though not absolutely conclusive but clearly indicative. With regards to Success his stats are abysmal he is a £12 million pound player that has spent the season literally on the injury table or cooking pounded yam on the bench. I doubt if he has played up to 90 minutes of football in total all season.

It means he is simply not cutting it taking up the space and waisting it. Nothing to show.

I really truly empathise with you because I use to be like you many years ago. Blindly Nigerian sentimental trying to advocate for players on my bias for skill, technique and flair. A reflection of my teenage youth years playing football in Nigeria and yes in Benin- City.

Football Recruitment managers in Europe would say all very well, what we want is effective delivery, what do the stats say. So I have learned to be objective and less sentimental.

When I meet players in Nigeria thier first desire is not national team but to be honest the £££ or €€€. The idea of recommendation to National team is not my remit. In addition it is fraught with nepotism and who no man, garnished with settlement.

Finally Icon4s I really do appreciate your comments and opinions and consider them of substance mostly. Even if don't always agree with you. Particularly this your, he is the type

Haha haha. Na the "the type" dey pain you like this? OK no vex.

But I have observed your bias is towards the foreign grown players. OK let me not use the word 'bias'. Hahahaha. Your preferences are towards foreign grown players. It is your opinion of which I am sure you have your reasons.

I do not need to be a psychologist to know that.

Talking about comparison of Success to Welbeck and Sturridge, I never said Success is at par with them o. I only said the way the English value Sturridge and Welbeck even despite they being injury prone that is how I value Success for Nigeria even though he is injury prone. The English celebrate each time Welbeck and strurridge are fit again to play for both clubs and national team. So also I am please each time Success is fit to honor national duty after several pull outs due to injuries.
That's all.

Then you said Danny Welbeck is not injury prone? A player that Since he joined Arsenal from Manchester United has been out due to injury for a far longer period than he was fit to play? A player that for 60% of this season he was out injured?

You said you played football in Benin City. Which area and which year?

Danycrusoe:
lol baba. this season I cared less about Arsenal's performances this season.

Another Gunner spotted.

There is one thing I know about Arsenal fans. They also usually have passion for Nigerian football.

TheSuperNerd:
Yes oooo..... Chief.... thanks for the audience.

And plsss accept my condolences on Arsenal's failure to clinch Fourth place as usual this season. I believe You guys will be back stronger next season....

My only concern is Iwobi will play Europa league which is okay considering Mikel and Moses have and won it before... Nacho may not even play european football if he doesnt move to hoffenheim or dortmund or any team offering that..... well... All the best to the gunners.

Don't worry, we Arsenal fans will be fine

We accepted our fate since over two months ago.

TheSuperNerd:
We are both correct naa.... it differs for some schools. In schools like Unizik and Even Unimaid.... a few 107 courses are offered in second semester.

University of Maryland also have one or two or so 107 courses in second semester. If we do a thorough check on all schools, you will see that 107 and 101 are not always in same semester.

O pari (forgive me again Sir Icon79)


Meanwhile... keep deceiving yourself u hia... night school for ukwu udara.... na so.... And you be Chief... with the kain profile wey you get.... and your English come dey kampe like this.... after they must have schooled you thru University in local dialect.... Chief Icon4s... I just dey look you....

OK. I hear you.

safarigirl:
in my own school and my faculty sha, you can see 107 and even 109 in one semester, only thing is that anything with 7 and 9 are usually elective courses eg in my 200level, you could either do LAW 207 or LAW 209

Elective but they are run in same semester naa abi?

TheSuperNerd, you know say na night school me go, I am not understanding what you are saying no. Haha haha

BascoVanVeli:
Isaac is not injury prone, Mazarri didn't fancy him and never gave him a chance.

Isaac is not injury prone?

I know about Mazarri's issues with the way Isaac plays but come on we know Isaac is our 3rd most injury prone player. 1 and 2 are Ikeme and Balogun in that order.

TheSuperNerd:
Taaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!! Lie of the thread!!!! You go night-school ba?? well me I go midnight school.... attended classes in first degree with one renowned winch in India sef....

Me na for one Ukwu Udara for my village na him I take do the night school.

TheSuperNerd:
Looollll.... using one school as case study.... in some schools 107 and 101 are not in the same semester. I even made mention of 207, 307, 407....... 2, 3 and 4 represents levels/year of study. Looollll... abeg... it is funny when one knows what he is talking about and you now wanna make him look stupid. funny.

No fes. You know na night school me go.

Haha haha.

tbaba1234:
Orji Okonkwo is going to play 75 mins today. Very nice.. The guy is currently ahead of Umar Sadiq.

That Sadiq Umar.

Well........

TheSuperNerd:
Looollll.... using one school as case study.... in some schools 107 and 101 are not in the same semester. I even made mention of 207, 307, 407....... 2, 3 and 4 represents levels/year of study. Looollll... abeg... it is funny when one knows what he is talking about and you now wanna make him look stupid. funny.

safarigirl abeg help me confirm this one o. Na una wey still dey school. I am no longer current on such issues.

komekn:
Presumption without substance, silence does not necessarily equate to consent.

Before Etebo had smelled national team set up I was already clamouring for him to come to Europe. However, some may think it is tribal sentiment.

After Sunday Mba's exploits at AFCON 2013 I was in discussion with a EPL club to bring him here.

I withdrew from those pursuits of which money was not my main motivating factor. The Sharks around these guys made it difficult for progress to be made, I withdrew.

I probably know a lot more Nigerian national coaches and internationals on personal level than you can imagine.

I am not sentimentality biased in the name of misguided patriotism to just big up a player because he is Nigerian. Furthermore I do not discriminate Nigerian is Nigerian whether born in Kano or London.

What is the unit of measurement for excellence Back to Isaac Success is it promising to deliver or actual delivery. So far irrespective of his huge price tag he has failed to deliver woefully. There is nothing biased about that just cold hard facts, the stats are there to see.

I have been a member of this thread long enough to describe each regular member's typical ideology of the game.

You are the type that does not believe any player that was developed in Nigeria is worth the while.

All your thoughts are Europe, England, Europe.

You recommended Etebo to come to Europe, I even thought you were going to say you recommended Etebo to any of the National teams.

On Isaac Success, no matter how bad his game is you cannot call him a waste pipe. I personally am disappointed in how his game has turned out due largely to injuries but I still see him as a valuable asset to the National team. His case always reminds of Danny Welbeck and Daniel Strurridge. Though injury prone but they are still assets to the English national team.

safarigirl:
it is still som odd numbers for first semester, even numbers for second semester

Abeg help me tell that to TheSuperNerd. He said 101 and 107 are not offered in the same semester.

Taitai2000:
By total filling station after agip

I.e Ekae.

Is it on the expressway or off the express.

BascoVanVeli:
What is more match deciding than a referee missing an obvious penalty shout?

The video review is usually the last resort. If the referee is undecided he seeks the opinion of the assistant refs. And if they too are not decided they call for a video review.

In a situation where the ref is very sure of an action he does not need to consult the assistant refs not to talk of the video replay.

If for every contentious issue you call for video replay it is going to distort the flow of the game, waste more time and even bore the viewers/crowd.

terzurum5:
Fred Friday needs to sit up.

Is he sleeping?

BascoVanVeli:
What is the video replay for if they overlook obvious penalties? SA down 2-1

I really feel pity for SA after starting so brightly. They were gunning to emulate their SA neighbors Zambia who proved book makers including me wrong today. Let's just see how far these African teams can go.

But me I have potted to supporting Engleria( England + Nigeria) for obvious reasons.

Taitai2000:
50 by 100 land located at Sapele road, Benin city.... 3.5m asking price, very negotiable.

Where exactly on Sapele road?

BascoVanVeli:
Their match against Portugal will tell us alot.

Yeah tomorrow 6am Nigerian time.