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BlackAlbino6:
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Yes you are on point, but theory and practice is what makes a student to learn better.
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Are u suggesting training sessions are done in classrooms?

Caspian22:
Icon4s , BascoVanVeli and joseph1013 I have all your points. and they are all cool. I am a positive person that hopes for the best.
BascoVanVeli - who do you prefer as our right full back= nura abdulahhi or musa Mohammed or elohor ekpolo

Right full back for which team? U20, U23, or Super Eagles?

BascoVanVeli:
U compared him to Fabregas and said he was a replica of Ozil, if someone else said such u would have gon on and on about them hyping the player and not giving him time.

There is a difference. I never said he is better than Fabregas or Ozil or in a different class from them. Remember i said Wenger may jst give him more playing time and nt Wenger should field him ahead of Ozil, Ramsey or Sanchez.
Alex Iwobi IS NOT YET THERE. He is a promising prospect for both Arsenal and Nigeria bt i cannot say he is capable of rubbing shoulders with the senior players in Arsenal.

The pt is. I appreciate young talents bt one thing i dnt do is hype them. The Alex Iwobi that we are talking abt may nt even perform as well as he did in his next game. Yes he did well against Sunderland and put up a near man of the match performance that doesnt make me think he could easily break into d first team of Chelsea, Liverpool or Manunited. And that doesnt make me think he can easily break into d Super Eagles first 11.

Why I had issues with most people's rating of Iheanacho earlier in d season was mostly based on d premise that this was first season. Yes he featured in d pre-season friendlies and showed plenty of promises. I had to wait to see him play a couple of EPL and Cup games to really rate him. And as I said in an earlier post i rate him now higher than i rated at d begining of the season. I knew he was a great talent all along bt saying he was better than Navas, Boney, Dzeko is an over hype to me.

Sadiq Umar is a talented player. I had to watch him yesterday mainly bc of u and forgiveness. The boy showed plenty of promises with brilliant runs and good eye for goal and i will only say he had a good game for an 18yrs old in his first Seria A season. There is no way i'll say he has replaced Dzeko. And i still say Sadiq is an U20 material and may nt b ripe for d Super Eagles yet. He may also b invited for the U23.

So my brother understand me when i say a player is nt there yet. It only means there is still room for improvement in the player as he matures and gains more experience.

BascoVanVeli:
Oga chill "he's not there yet".

Yes of course. He is nt there yet. Atleast I didnt say he has replaced Ozil.

Caspian22:
I always tell anybody I discuss football with that Nigeria's golden generation is coming soon.

But they are only two problems hindering that.

1. The failure to scout potential youngsters whether abroad or in Nigeria. I remembered when I was shouting Dele Alli b4 he shone at MK dons. What about bobby adekanye that barca got banned for, they said he was messi's favorite youngster. Amuneke didn't make effort to invite him to the U17, now he's with Holland.
I am not just talking about abroad youths alone. Daniel Emmanuel, the goalkeeper that did so wonderfully well at CAF U23 wasn't invited to the CHAN tourney. I understand that competition for shirts is tough but give youth a chance.


2. If you are talking about the next generation stars in naija football. You'll mention, iheanacho, success, awoniyi, osimhen, iwobi, nwakali, alampasu, ndidi.
Did you notice something wrong? No. Yes. They are no defenders. No matter how big naija's youth pool is. it will mostly comprise of attacking talent. Who can you say is the top defender naija can rely on in the future? even if you name some. how many? is it iorfa? that has already played for England.
If we begin to groom more quality defenders we can talk about that golden generation.

Thank you

The thing is the best players in the world are usually Forwards and Midfielders. Defenders also hardly make d headlines rather the forwards do bc of their goal scoring abilities. Plus also it is easier for forwards and midfielders to sign professional contracts than defenders and bc of that strikers progress better d defenders. Take a look at d last 2 U17 Eaglets and u'll see that d strikers and midfielders have progressed farthest even though there were a couple of good defenders from among d two crops.

Also, coaches experiment more with strikers which means young strikers have more opportunities to move arnd. So yes it is more likely for the likes of Success, Iheanacho, Osimhen, Etebor and co to break into d Super Eagles soonest than d likes of Zaharadeen, Mohammed, Lazarus, Mustapha.

BlackAlbino6:
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‘He’s a better no.10 than Coutinho!’ Arsenal fans react to Alex Iwobi’s performance against Sunderland
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Arsenal starlet Alex Iwobi was one of the stars for Arsene Wenger’s men in their FA Cupclash against Sunderland.

He may already have made two international appearances for Nigeriabut this was only his second ever start for the Gunners, giving supporters a chance to take another look over his potential.

It’s fair to say most observers were rather pleased with his performance as they took to Twitter to praise his display, which included direct attacking and some moments of skill before he was substituted after 66 minutes.

You can see what Arsenal fans reckoned about his antic below…
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As an Arsenal fan myself I will say Wenger is at it again. He has jst chuned out another Fabregas more like in the mode of Mesut Ozil. Iwobi showed so much display of confidence and maturity. Nt afraid of going forward and taking on defenders. He hardly made any faulty pass and was even d initiator of the Arsenal's equalizer. I go in the line of TheGoodJoe that training with d best coaches and players is a lot deal jst like the Iheanacho case too. Iwobi must have learnt alot from some1 like Ozil that he came on d pitch and we saw a replica of Ozil . Knowing Wenger for hu he is Iwobi might get some more playing time going forward.

tbaba1234:
I watched the match, he was not great.

Well I will say he showed promises and flashes of brilliance for an 18yrs old & only his 3rd game as a full professional. Jst that some peeps are making him seem like a Super Man already.

Now, that is the pt some of us have been making. We know regular game time is the ideal bt that doesnt mean players hu are in top clubs bt dnt feature regularly dnt stand a chance in the Olympic team.
Kelechi Iheanacho and Alex Iwobi have reiterated the fact that though they dnt get regular game time they are capable of doing great things when given the opportunity. I didnt watch Iheanacho bt I watched Iwobi for the over 70mins dat he featured. Iwobi has shown that in addition to being a winger he can also play from the middle jst behind d main striker which he did excellently well today.He was jst like a replica of Ozil. His passes were so sublime and he took on defenders one-on-one with so much confidence. He was part of the build up to Arsenal's first goal.
I think a loan move will do Iwobi good as Arsenal has so many senior players playing d wings/AM role.

I can see safarigirl in a celebrative mood for "Nacho".

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tbaba1234:
Musa Yahaya to a second division Portuguese club all because of the greed of agents and handlers.

All Nigerian youth players are plagued by this greed. Everyone wants to eat from the player even before he makes real money.

IMO nothing bad in Musa Yahaya moving to 2nd division Portugues club. After all Taiwo Awoniyi is currently at a 2nd division German club, Arsene Wenger is abt to Offload Alex Iwobi to Reading-an English championship club, Chuba Akpom also plays in the championship.
If that move will guarantee Musa Yahaya good playing time and opportunity to develop, better for him. The thing is even if he signs for the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona, or the English giants they may send him to their youth teams and after wards loan him to lower sides in any part of Europe for him to gain game time.

Musa Yahaya is a good player. And I want to believe it wont take long before the bigger clubs come for him. He jst needs to do his thing in that 2nd division club.

So I am happy for Yahaya. A good step to me.

Bros, that interior u posted is nt same with the CRV u are trying to advertise.

terzurum5:
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Nigerian youngster Sadiq Umar set to start against Milan
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Sadiq Umar flying high at Roma

Shinning Nigerian youngster Sadiq Umar is set for his second start for AS Roma when they host AC Milan on Saturday in continuation of the Italian Serie A.

Roma star striker Edin Dzeko remains suspended for the weekend game after his appeal against a two-match ban was not successful.

Sadiq has been a breath of fresh air for Roma, who are fifth on the table.

The 18-year-old striker has scored in each of his last two appearances for the Rome outfit, coming off the bench to head home in a 2-0 win over Genoa last month, and giving his club the lead in a 3-3 draw at Chievo Wednesday.

The Kaduna-born youngster was promoted to the senior squad after he scored 14 goals in 10 matches for the youth team.
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Good, we need to see him play more games.

BascoVanVeli:
He is the only player i ever noticed u give a thumbs up to, this same Ighalo u say is in a blazing form is the one u said wasnt there yet.
I never said Sadiq was better than anybody. Dzeko had gone over 1000 minutes with only 3 goals while in 2 games(1 sub 1 start) he has scored twice, what would u do if u were the coach? For now he will be their starting CF and i am impressed.

My friend u said Taiwo Awoniyi was nt on same planet with Ajayi, mayb jst bc Ajayi was a 3SC player and Awoniyi then jst signed for Liverpool and loaned to Eintranct Frankfurt. I was only proving to u in that argument that Ajayi was more suited than Awoniyi as d main striker of that U23. U can judge from the performances of d two strikers in dat CAF U23 tourney

See the mistake u guys make is to underate youth players from the NPFL. Sooner or later u guys will find out that many of those Europe groomed players are nt much better than the NPFL youth players. Players like Etebor, Sokari, Okechukwu, Dimgba and Etor may b better than all the likes of Solanke, Sadiq Umar et al . Even Kelechi Iheanacho will have to up his game to break into d starting 11 of that team as u may know that Sokari & Etebor play similar roles as Iheanacho.

And yes Ighalo is in a blazing form and he took d world by surprise. I am sure at 3-4 months ago u wouldnt have thought that Ighalo would have scored 14 goals by half of the season.However, i would still nt rate him as among the best strikers in d world yet. Lets see him sustain this form to d end of d season and or mayb play in Manunited(as being rumoured) and still maintain that goal scoring form.

U implied I am in d habit of putting the "nt yet there" tag on our young players. I rather see it as u guys being too quick to hype young players. A player scores 2 goals in 2 appearances for AS Roma and next thing " he has replaced Dzeko", "he should b invited to the Super Eagles", "he should be in Rio". Plus all the Hype on Awoniyi and Iheanacho. I am nt taking anything away from these young lads. My wish is for them to become super stars bt the thing is we are always too quick to rate them as Super Stars.

Many young African players end up like "a flash in the pan". They only do well as teenagers and feassle out when it matters most.
I have been following youths football keenly since the mid 1980s so I know what I am talking abt. I have learnt that MOST promising talents dont end up living up to expectations.

mijestic:
Please guys let's take things easy with one another. We do not actually have to pick of fence at every statement made on a public forum like this. A little humor is allowed to lighten up things a bit as far as the words used aren't to extreme. Let's just share our own opinions and let others do. Please be tolerant of one another ladies and gentlemen.

Thanks and well spoken bro.

On the Iheanacho issue, those that have been following this thread since months back know how i engaged on a hot debate with almost every1 here on the Iheanacho argument. I am usually conservative when rating young players. I knew that Iheanacho is talented and holds lots of promises bt chosed to watch him for a couple of weeks before really knowing where to place him.

While several peeps here have reduced his rating and some ridiculing him I even rate him higher now and i believe he deserves more playing time considering his performances on the few chances he had to play.
It baffles me that some1 like Bascovanveli that so much spoke lofty things of Iheanacho alongside Safarigirl and others is now on d other side of the divide.

Lets nt forget the root of the argument. Kelechi Iheanacho is good enough for the Olympics if selected forget that he mostly starts from d bench at City.

tbaba1234:
I think Iheanacho should go on loan. In spite of his goal/game ratio. I do not think pellegrini trusts him enough. Game time helps to improve players. Iheanacho needs a run of games.

Right now, Isaac Success and Ndidi look like the most developed players. They are playing regularly. Isaac Success is already a vital player for granada even though they play him from the wings.

Sadiq Umar is a kid with potential as well. Looks like a finisher with some slick touches but I will keep him at U20 for now along with Osimhen.

Alampasu was man of the match on his debut in a cup game. It remains to be seen if he can push for a regular place. It is not easy for young keepers to break through.

Onazi, Omeruo are still eligible for under 23. Sissie can put together a very strong side for the Olympics with Ighalo playing as overage.

Every thing u said here is on point except playing Ighalo as an Over-aged player. I believe the U23 players can do it. The likes of Success, Ezekiel, Iheanacho, Etebor, Simon,Okechukwu, Dimgba et al. Have what it takes. Where we need over aged players IMHO opinion is in d defence (2 defenders) and DMF.

BascoVanVeli:
Be honest u don't think anybody is ripe or there yet, the only player u have given ur outright approval to is Junior Ajayi so don't drop all these other names like u didn't say the same "not there yet" about them.

Lol! Junior Ajayi ke? I never rated him good enough to "effortlessly break into the Arsenal, Manunited or Liverpool first 11". I never rated him to b "better than every player in the Super Eagles". I never rated him to be in the class of Messi and Ronaldo and better than Victor Moses.

I only said he was more suited as the CF of the U23 team than Taiwo Awoniyi.

I rate Success and Ezekiel above Ajayi anyday.
IMHO the young strikers that are currently close to a Super Eagles call up are Isaac Success and Imoh Ezekiel. Though they are still work in progress bt I feel they are ready for senior team action. Bt remember Odion Ighalo is in a blazing form now so the younger strikers have to step up to b able to displace Ighalo as d main striker, though teams usually have 2-3 strikers.

I still maintain that most peeps often overrate most of these our young players. Bc Sadiq Umar has scored 2 goals for AS Roma he is now better than Dzeko? No bro. I dnt agree.

safarigirl:
Anyway Osimhen (not Solanke or Umar) won CAF Youth Player so I'm hoping he's at Rio....so many forwards, sheesh! Aubameyang no go enjoy that CAF APOTY the way Yaya enjoyed it.

Ehen, Etebo winning Most Promising Talent still puts Kelechi as the youngest to win it in over a decade (not Solanke)....


All I know is, I'm going to enjoy Rio 2016...assuming exams aren't on and I get to watch it

I dnt think Osimhen will make it to Rio. Except if Granada once again chose to tie their chain to Isaac Success.There are also Imoh Ezekiel and Aminu Umar hu are also CFs.

linked:
After winning the 2015 U23 Caf Africa Cup of Nations title in style, coach Samson Siasia is hopeful of strengthening his squad with the addition of Kelechi Iheanacho, Isaac Success, Alex Iwobi and Aminu Umar ahead of the Olympic Games in August.

Goal can exclusively reveal that the quartet is included in the final list of players that would play for Nigeria in Rio.

Siasia, who has been on holidays in the United States of America, has kept mute about his plans and programmes for the Olympics leaving.

The coach, however, broke his silence when he spoke about his programme with the Nigeria Football Federation on Tuesday.

A very close confidant of the coach who spoke on condition of anonymity told Goal on Wednesday that Siasia has been thinking of ways to boost the team’s front line that has given him much headache since the 2015 All African Games.





The former Super Eagles coach is not expected to do a total overhaul of the team, but he is eager to inject quality players to make it a very solid and result-oriented one capable of withstanding threats from European and South American opponents that they would face.

“The chief coach has been working all this time he has been in the United States because he told me that time is not on the team’s side again,” the source told Goal.

“What is paramount in his mind is injection of quality and talented players to beef up the team and make it stronger than the one that won the Africa U23 Cup of Nations. He has a limited number of players he is looking at and the search light is on the three departments of the team, attack, midfield and defense, but most importantly the attack and the defense line.

“As I speak with you he has already spoken with Kelechi Iheanacho, Isaac Success, Alex Iwobi and Aminu Umar to be members of the team. He said with a number of grade A friendlies, these attackers and the other defenders and midfielders that he hopes to introduce to the team would not only fortify it but make it very ready for the battle to conquer the world at the Olympics in Brazil.

‘The chief coach has wonderful plans to surprise the world this time around and he said that both the National Sports Commission and the Nigeria Football Federation have vowed to help him out this time around not like what happened in Senegal during the Africa Championship.”

Siasia, winner of Olympic silver medal as coach in 2008, hopes to go one better this year by bringing home Nigeria’s second gold in the Olympic Games football event.

Please note that Aminu Umar and Sadiq Umar are two different players. Both are strikers though.

forgiveness:
Please, mention them. Thanks

Pls scroll up to Joseph1013's last comment on this page.

forgiveness:
Somebody playing for A.C Roma is not tested and tried enough to play for the Olympics and the Super Eagles?

Says who?

How old is Kelechi Iheanacho? 19.
How did the likes of Tijani Babangida, Taribo West, Taye Taiwo, Obafemi Martins etcetera broke into the Super Eagles without playing for the youth system?

All the players u listed played for our youth teams:

Tijani Babangida: 1993 U20 & 1996 Olympics.
Taribo West: 1993 U20 & 1996 Olympics.
Taye Taiwo: 2005 U20 & 2008 Olympic qualifiers.
Obafemi Martins: 1997 U17. Was part of the team that won the maiden meridian cup for the U17s. Nigeria was disqualified from WC qualifiers due to some administrative lapses. Ifeanyi Udeze was also part of that team.

So bros, the Nigerian youths system has produced our bests and brightests. Sadiq Umar is nt too big a player to nt go through our youths system. We have seen bigger youth players.
I am nt saying Umar should nt b given an opportunity.My take is for an 18yrs old we need him more at the U20 camp.He is nt ripe for d Super Eagles yet.Period.

BascoVanVeli:
This isn't politics we don't have to pick a certain player and not route for the rest. These are all very fine players and they should be given their opportinity sooner than later.

Yes, that's y i say there is opportunity for Umar at our youth teams.

joseph1013:
Chai. na wa o. So Umar is now ahead of Success, Kelechi, Ajayi, Ezekiel, Etebo, Ighalo (if Sia1 decides to call him) cos he scored 2 goals. Wait, na only strikers we wan carry go Olympics?

What forgiveness and Bascovanveli fail to acknowledge is that there are several Nigerian teenagers doing so well presently both in Europe and in Nigeria.
No big deal in Sadiq Umar scoring 2 goals for AS Roma. Several other youngsters have done more. Why single out Sadiq Umar for praise shouting. I am happy for him as a fellow Nigerian bt i still believe he is nt ripe for the Super Eagles.

forgiveness:
When is the next U20? Is it not next year?

Remember, he will be 20 next year. Although, he is still eligible to play. So, do you expect the lad to wait for some bench warmers before he is eligible to play for the Olympics football game or National team if he continues to see regularly football and scores goals every weeks?

Bros, if he is continues like this he deserves to go to the Olympics football games ahead of any player that is unable to break into his team. Shikena!

So Umar scores goals every week? It means by now he would have scored atleast 40 goals. Is he better than Isaac Success and Imoh Ezekiel?

forgiveness:
Abegi, help me tell them.

Tell them what? We have youth teams where these talented teenagers can be accommodated, tried and d best of them promoted to d Super Eagles.That is y we have a youths system. U dnt jst pick up teenagers and push them into d Super Eagles.
Sadiq Umar is 18yrs old and should b with d U20 team from which d Super Eagles coaches can assess him for any ppssible call up.

enomakos:
super eagles fast fast?no bro let him start with the u-20 first

Is he even better than Isaac Success and Imoh Ezekiel?

BascoVanVeli:
I'm sorry was Dzeko injured yesterday? The boy started and scored his second goal in as many matches. What coach will remove him from the lineup after that.

Lol! Does that mean he has replaced Dzeko? My brother football is nt like that. I am nt taking anything away from Sadiq Umar. He has shown great potentials and promise bt he still needs time to mature. And I dnt think we should rush him into d Super Eagles yet. Let him go compete for d CF position at d next U20 along with d likes of Awoniyi, Osimhen and Ezeh.

beyoobmighty:
[color=#000099][/color] please nailanders, what is the normal weight for every human being. Thanks

It depends on ur height.
BMI-Body Mass Index is used to determine over or under weight.The BMI is a function of ur weight and height.
However, for a man with average height 65-70kg is appropriate.

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If nature sustains the current rate of rise in Sea level over 50% of Lekki and Victoria Island mayb submereged in the next 20yrs -30yrs.

Successive Lagos state governments may spend large resources battling this ecological change.

If none of Nwankwo Kanu's goals in that famous Arsenal's 3-2 win over Chelsea,coming from 2-0 down, is nt there then i am nt interested.

BascoVanVeli:
The boy has displaced Dzeko, he should get a super eagle call up.

Nt true. He has nt displaced Dzeko.
I agree he has put up some fantastic performances thus far.He is jst 18 & still needs time to mature. He is a 2017 Flying Eagles prospect IMHO although he may also feature in d Olympics if selected.

forgiveness:
Really! but d boy don pass U17 and U20 now.

He is good for the Olympics football games. That's all I saying, you know.

Some1 hu is 18yrs old don pass to play U20?

And i will nt say he is good for Olympic football games yet. I would say he is good for a call-up for selection camping though I personally feel he is more of an 20 material.

forgiveness:
Na you sabi.

I will not support bench warmers over players playing regularly in top leagues: Serie-a, Eredivisie, Championship, Pro league and LA liga na.

Sorry, u wont make a good coach.