Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:53am On Jul 16, 2019 |
Curtisaxel7: Did you watch the friendly against Zimbabwe? Balogun was an absolute beast in that game, I remember an occasion when he was isolated in defence and marked by two Zimbabwean attackers but he somehow managed to not only beat them but still make a meaningful forward pass at the end of it to trigger a rapturous applause from the fans.
Omeruo and Ekong in such a situation will panic and kick the ball into the sidelines. That is the quality Balogun brings to the table. The Madagascar game was an off day for him, it happens even to the best players. You can't judge a player's quality by the achievements or mistakes of a single game. We are talking about the AFCON you are talking about one friendly we played against Zimbabwe. Do you know what is called tournament form? Sorry, Balogun, just like Mikel did not have it in this AFCON. Forget about previous competitions. At the semi-final stage players are fielded based on how they had performed up till that moment in the tournament. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:48am On Jul 16, 2019 |
TheGoodJoe: The point is time. Amunike was in the group of death and what played out was expected before the whistle was blown in the tournament.
It will take time to turn mediocres like Tanzania to compete in such unfavourable group. Rohr on the other hand had a plethora of quality players but chose to set up in a mediocre way.
I am okay with losing while teaching the team to play in an offensive brand but I find it ridiculous playing conservative for results because in the end, the team is not growing. Our best chance to get a good grade coach who understands the possessive philosophy and can impact that knowledge lies with Amunike. Someone who has trained and worked with some of the masters.
If you still want conservative footie, good for you. As for me, the philosophy comes first and with time, the result. Rohr does not have the philosophy. Bros Amuneke is like a brother to me, not even a friend. Yet, I will not recommend him for the Eagles job. His team played the worst football in this AFCON. I know Emma very well and his coaching philosophy and he totally lost control after the first half in their first game against Senegal. He came back with his Plan B and it was obvious they spent more time on his plan A. His team never clicked till the final whistle of their last group game. He is grossly an inexperienced coach. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:37am On Jul 16, 2019 |
daveP: Talk like this is disgusting. Mikel over Etebo. Current Mikel?
What are you even saying.
Etebo has been the most reliable SE player this Afcon. Chai some people's analysis can be so shocking! |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:35am On Jul 16, 2019 |
Curtisaxel7: Wrong. I have always screamed and shouted for Mikel to be played at CM. Even when I saw the match list I criticized Rohr for his inflexibility.
So it's not a hindsight thing. It was clear since the first game of this tourney that Etebo is never a creator and it was costing us heavily as the team was finding it extremely difficult moving the ball from defence to attack. We all know this, it's not hidden knowledge. Sorry bro. I don't think you have been watching this AFCON. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:34am On Jul 16, 2019 |
forgiveness: I will have to agree with you on this. You agree that Balogun should have started the Algeria game ahead of Ekong? Forget about the Algeria game (because we are analyzing the situation before the game was played), rate the two players' performances up to the SA game. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:31am On Jul 16, 2019 |
forgiveness: The only game I remembered Shehu did well was the match he won man of the match. The rest na wack.
I agree Shehu and Awaziem play the same way though Awaziem has an edge with his good passes but they are still in the same category. Both are not good enough for the RB position. So which players are ''good enough'' for the RB? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:29am On Jul 16, 2019 |
forgiveness: Even after we equalised and Awaziem got a yellow card, Rohr should have changed him. Na common sense na. Was he our only player that picked a yellow in that game? Why should it be Awaziem that should be substituted? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:28am On Jul 16, 2019 |
forgiveness: Rohr should have changed the formation to 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 if he read the match and wanted to destabilise the Algerians plot. If he went for a 4-4-2 who should he have pulled out and who should have come in to partner Ighalo? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:25am On Jul 16, 2019 |
forgiveness: Exactly! But I would had brought in Aina for Awaziem first to see if he could had helped free Chukwueze and gotten him pace to ran at the defenders before switching to that formation peradventure it didn't work.
The problem was, Rohr didn't have plan B. You are a goal down in a game and your proposed tactical change is to pull out Awaziem to bring in Aina. O di egwu. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:22am On Jul 16, 2019 |
Curtisaxel7: Balogun should've started that game ahead of that Ekong. Ekong and Omeruo are horrible ball passers, they are only good for tackles and nothing else. Balogun brings that finesse and flair to the defence and in a game where Rohr intended to use his usual strategy of long passes from the CB's to the forwards, Balogun should've been the natural choice. I wonder how a coach can condemn a his best defender to the bench because of a single howler. That was just stupid of Rohr.  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:21am On Jul 16, 2019 |
Curtisaxel7: Mikel should've started that game ahead of Etebo.
Etebo is just a combative box to box hard tackling midfielder. No finesse, no passing abilities, no game control abilities, nothing. Service to our forwards was virtually non existent, courtesy of a dead midfield. Sadly, Mikel who should've been at the heart of the midfield was played out of position a couple of times and then condemned to the bench.
Rohr needs to learn, you don't win a game with tackles alone. I don't understand the way some of us reason. Yet we come here to say all sorts of things against Rohr. Are you sure you read through the bolded before you posted it? It is very obvious some of us here only analyze in hindsight. Why didn't you make this recommendation before the Algeria game? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:15am On Jul 16, 2019 |
BascoVanVeli: Stop changing my words I said you don't like the player nothing was mentioned about hate. Nobody asked you to make a call for anybody. Someone else made the call and you were acting like the person was crazy.
Shehu has had more good games than bad. In fact I can't name a bad game he has had apart from maybe the Argentina friendly. All you people said "Shehu never goes forward but Awaziem played basically the same way and you are like what a great player so disciplined. Thank you |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:44pm On Jul 15, 2019 |
Two Perennial underachievers made the final. One will finally break the jinx while the other will continue as underachievers.  |
Sports › Re: The Teams That Have Never Played At The AFCON by Icon4s(m): 8:20pm On Jul 13, 2019 |
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:01pm On Jul 13, 2019 |
Clementoke: DECLARATION OF WAR
In a bid to defeat Rohr's men, the Algerian Government has ordered military planes to fly about 1,400 fans to Egypt to drum up support for the Desert foxes. The plan is for them to leave after the match with the Super Eagles but they might stay back for the Final (should the fennecs triumph in the semifinal clash).
From Goal.com Those 1400 fans go follow the players enter field? No be SA beat Egypt in front of 75,000 fans?  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:59pm On Jul 13, 2019 |
nairalandankrah: HEAD-TO-HEAD Algeria 7 wins Draws 3 Nigeria 9 wins Last meetings - AFCON  22 Mar 1980: Nigeria 3-0 Algeria 10 Mar 1982: Nigeria 1-2 Algeria 11 Mar 1984: Nigeria 0-0 Algeria 23 Mar 1988: Nigeria 1-1 Algeria 02 Mar 1990: Algeria 5-1 Nigeria 16 Mar 1990: Algeria 1-0 Nigeria 21 Jan 2002: Algeria 0-1 Nigeria 30 Jan 2010: Nigeria 1-0 Algeria The last time Algeria beat Nigeria in any game at all was the Final of the 1990 AFCON on the March 16, 1990. Meaning we have dominated them for almost 3 decades now and that dominance will surely continue tomorrow. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:56pm On Jul 13, 2019 |
Good evening guys. In other News, FIFA U17 WC: Nigeria to play Hungary, Australia and Ecuador. Make we finish the AFCON Business first then we analyse this one.  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:18pm On Jul 13, 2019 |
ChrisKels: Remember the day I told u guys I was humbled by Samuel Chimerenka Chukwueze? Damne just stumbled on this pic, 2016, back of stadium Michael Okpara University of Agriculture Umudike (MOUAU). Is that u beside him? |
Sports › Re: AFCON 2019 - Algeria VS Nigeria: Is Super Eagles' Away Jersey Jinxed? by Icon4s(m): 6:55am On Jul 13, 2019 |
holllandis: Why does Nigeria have to be the away team ? Must u be the home team all the time? You were the home team against Burundi, Guinea, Cameroon and South Africa. |
Sports › Re: AFCON 2019 - Algeria VS Nigeria: Is Super Eagles' Away Jersey Jinxed? by Icon4s(m): 6:53am On Jul 13, 2019 |
Gracealone: It is a known fact to all that the Nigerian Super Eagles have been drawn against the Algerian national team in the AFCON 2019 Semi-finals. Super Eagles are going to be the away team, this suggests that they would probably be donning the deep green away jersey.
Frankly, I am not the superstitious type, but my observation is that Nigeria has never recorded a good result in these colours. I have shared it jokingly with some friends and they laughed it off.
What is your take? That was the same thing they said those years when we used white as our away jerseys. Bros Jersey no dey play ball. Play well and win. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:06pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
darkelf: I am a Bonafide Nigerian and I love the Super Eagles
In the beginning, I had doubts about this team but they are gradually winning me over with their attitude on the field of play
But I know one fact; everybody cannot say positive things about the Super Eagles all the time. We are created different and we think differently.
Hence, it only makes sense to respect the opinions of others no matter how silly they may sound.
Granted, we give each other a hard time here by yabbing and making jokes about our wrong predictions and what nots but this should never degenerate to insults.
Some of us here have a hard time swallowing the opinions of others and cannot make intelligent arguments without insulting the other party. Times without number, I have called out some of these people. While some apologize and retract their statements, others remain adamant and choose not to admit their wrongs.
I want to believe we all possess a level of intelligence to converse on this thread and what differentiates the mature minds from kids is the ability to question opposing arguments with facts and without rude remarks.
I am calling on us especially those of us who are elders to act accordingly:
You don't have to reply every rude remark.
You are not in control of the other persons thoughts and opinions; positive and negative
I also want to believe that you (the agggressor) don't feed the aggressee neither do you clothe or pay his house rent . So the person can oppose you when he wants albeit intelligently.
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Stay blessed and Stay happy y'all
Up Super Eagles, Go for glory Good one from you. No hard feelings. I know all those pessimism were as a result of fear and lack of trust in the team. Not as if we the optimists were not also afraid. We were. But rather than dwell so much on the team's weaknesses we chose to dwell more on our strength. When I tell una say no be today AFCON start that we have seen a lot not to write any team off. Now that you have turned a new leaf just remain positive. By God's Grace we will celebrate this title win in Grand Style. In other News, 2019 NAIRALAND NIGERIAN FOOTBALLERS AWARDS nominations is a couple of months away. Hope we are observing?  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:19pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
Joebie: NIGERIA WILL GET TO THE FINALS. We are already in the 'Finals'. Quarters and Semis are finals. But there is only one 'Final'.  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:20pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
ChrisKels: Icant believe Iam saying this, but etebo has been my best midfielder and most consistent player in this tournament. Yes I labelled him a Carpenter, buh boy is killing it .
someone should plz find Mikel a super glue on that bench Etebor is one player that has really impressed in this tournament and is improving with every game. Boy's recovery rate is is always awesome. His Stoke City move and championship football seems to have helped him a lot. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:14pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
ChrisKels: Don't use "may" say "will". He has never been a rb, he is there as a make shift ,yet, killing it but u and ur goons wouldn't give him the credit he deserves .
Dat ogogoro drinker wey dey beat empty chest say him go drive from London through Spain to Morocco, then Egypt to see the afcon live, plz help me tell am say Awaziem says Hi  Efe Ambrose was a CB before 2013 AFCON. Was drafted to RB for the AFCON and continued to play that position post AFCON Shehu was a DM before the 2016 Olympics. Was drafted to RB for the Olympics. And after the Olympics he has continued to play RB. Mikel was a DM/CM in the SE before the 2016 Olympics. Played AM in the Olympics and became the SE AM afterwards. This is not the first time a player will be drafted to a make shift position. Awaziem has done creditably well in that position and has continued to improve with every game. He, IMO was the second best player yesterday after Chukwueze. Ebuehi and Shehu are too injury prone. Good that we have a new RB Option. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:04am On Jul 11, 2019 |
darkelf: Rohr just need tactical assistants who can read the game better. Honestly, I was also rooting for his exit but having excellent assistants is a better and more humane strategy. Remember he built this team. Oga, I hope you have dropped that ur pessimist tag from your neck. Now u understand why some of us will always believe in this team no matter how shaky it may be at the start. Nigeria will always be Nigeria. We love playing in the AFCON  Love or hate Rohr. He delivers.  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:25pm On Jul 10, 2019 |
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:20am On Jul 09, 2019 |
ChrisKels: Guys plz what time is our match tomorrow? I wan use this morning strategize my tomorrow shift at work plz.
Plz answer ASAP. Tnx 8pm |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:49am On Jul 09, 2019*. Modified: 9:19am On Jul 09, 2019 |
fabyom: they outplayed us both in 1988 and 2000 AFCON final. They did not. I have the full 90mins video of that 1988 AFCON Final the game it was even. In 2000 it was also even, though they started off the better side but we crawled back into the game and dominated the second half until we got the equalizer. Just like some people we also argue that Cameroon were better than us in this last weekend's game. There is hardly any game we played against Cameroon that they were better than us. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:44pm On Jul 08, 2019 |
TheSuperNerd: Afcon TITBITS
The three out of the four times Cameroun beat Nigeria were in the Afcon finals of 1984, 1988 and 2000.
Three times they hurt us when it really mattered. Even the other time they beat us was in a WCQ.
That is why our victory on saturday is more than sweet because we have also hurt them when it matters most. Just like in the 1962 Nkrumah Cup, 2004 Afcon, 2018 WCQs and now this at AFCON 2019. Twice we have rendered them ousted Defending champs.
Can't count Afcon 1992 because it was third place. Can't refer too to WCQs for 1970 because we didn't qualify even though we floored Cameroun.
Beating them when it truly truly matters. That is what I count here.
This is partly why it is the fiercest rivalry and biggest derby in African soccer.
Against South Africa, The Super Eagles must soar even higher. And I trust they will. The kind of emotional torture we received from Cameroon particularly the period from 1984 to 1989, was too much. The dominance was too much. Not as if they usually played better than us but some how they always found a way around us. In 1984, even though we lost to them 3-1 we were the better side. In 1988 Henry Nwosu scored an excellent goal but was wrongly ruled off-side by the ref, who years later apologized for the wrong decision taken. Leading to Italia 90 WC we beat them 2:0 in Ibadan, but for the 2:1 defeat we suffered in away Libreville, Gabon we could have qualified before the Cameroon return fixture. We needed a draw in Yaoundé. It was 0:0 at half time and we all turned prayer warriors only for Nigeria to concede with less than 20mins to full time. See how we were also rubbed in Lagos when Ikpeba stupidly disallowed his goal that he scored and we went ahead and lost the penalty shoot-out. Cameroon has never been better than Nigeria, just that things always work against us each time we played them. They became like a God to us. Okocha said something after we beat them in the quarter finals of the 2004 AFCON: "Thank God our generation has finally been able to beat Cameroon for the generations to come". And ever since then onward we have never lost to Cameroon. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:19am On Jul 08, 2019 |
komekn: Aina was always quality just did not get any game time at Chelsea a characteristic of this club and it's young talents.
He had an outstanding season at Hull on loan and then took to Seria A like a fish to water.
Omeruo case is different he is a lot older and a lot more experienced. And has been a journey man player loan to loan all his career.
The different values placed on the players is indicative of how much clubs rate thier individual quality and attributes. I think Aina should remain at LB and let Jamilu deputize for him. Rohr should sort out that RB Position. Awaziem is improving with every game in that position and should be kept there for now. Ebuehi is back to training and Shehu may be out for the tournament but he also an option post-AFCON. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:34pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
Games against Cameroon are always more than a game. For those of us that swallowed the bitter pills of 84, 88 and 2000 AFCONs each time we beat Cameroon it is always more than a win for us.  Still in a dancing mood. I no get time for arguments yet. He's a miracle working God....... He's a miracle working God....... He's an Alfa and Omega He's a miracle working God......  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:10pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
What shall i say onto da Lord..... All I have to say is thank you Lord. |