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Goke7:
Rohr must have made him disinterested jor, you sef no tire?

Tire for wetin? Na naija we dey. We swim and sink with the Super Eagles. No coach can get me disinterested in any of our national teams at any level.

Coaches come, coaches go but we the fans remain. We have seen a lot in Nigerian football to let Rohr get us disinterested.

TheSuperNerd:
Nwakaeme is not cut out for this. Akinfenwa will do just fine.

Plus Dani Shittu. We can even go and revive Uche Okechukwu (gentle giant) for this game

andrew444:
You mean musa ?

Cameroon 6 yellow cards in one match ?

Na wa o

Dem no sabi play. Na jam body football be their way.

ChrisKels:
Finally we have a worthy MOD here. Please endeavour to cut short every nonsensical argument not related to the purpose of this thread, especially, those from goodjoe on Pep, those annoying YouTube videos and quotes he uses to derail this thread, and plz give gustav25, Afobear and his goons live bans from this thread, not nairaland as a whole oo. Errrm I dont know what to say about sir forgiveness, but anytime way Andrew444 call person mama or Papa here, knack am better ban


Finally, if those names on Semid's list fail to improve, try to dey give dem some small-small warning bans of say 2-4days, from time to time

And to urself, anytime wey u use medical terms in here, ban urself. If I see any pia matter, lobotomy, cortices, grey matter, amnesia etc without u banning urself, I go show u pepper

Whatever Chriskels does, do not look his way maka ndu gi

Those ones?



I comment my reserve.

Goke7:
I wondered too, but I think he posted his preferred line-up for the nest SE match not too long ago.

Can't blame anybody cos everyone don tire for rohr

I know TheGoodJoe and his analytical prowess when it comes to our participation in competitions. He is not in this AFCON.

darkelf:
My advice to you is this ehn: This present crop of SE with the coach does not inspire confidence. To tell you how unserious they are, why didn't we see the red eyes against Madagascar? This set are a highly disappointing side especially when you most expect them to perform.

What are they having red eyes against Madagascar for? Didn't you see their red eyes when they played Burundi and Guinea, which were two more important games.

Continue.

And if we lose don't forget to come here and start shouting "I said it, I said it"

TheGoodJoe:
Remember, there was Mendy, before Delph and then Zinchenko. Now in some games, Guardiola prefers to even start Zinchenko when Mendy and Delph are fit. That shows a lot how the young man has grown.

In Ukraine, Zinchenko who you pointed above, was a winger plays as a Defensive midfielder. This is due to the young man's insane brilliance in understanding tactical play and movement.

If you like, call it Mumu growth.

Who else has noticed that TheGoodJoe doesn't discuss the Super Eagles any more.

Where is Goldfish80?

We are playing his favorite Team Cameroon (Aka Jam body)

Rohr should please go and recall Anthony Nwakaeme for this game

TheSuperNerd:
Lol... Maybe Dad. Maybe.

I don update the list sef.... I added what a 2013 Darkelf would say...

Mr Pessimist

That CIV Vs Mali fixture na die . ChrisKels who you go come support now for this game


There is no easy fixtures if you ask me.

But, guys do you know I prefer our Cameroon fixture to when we should have played DRC if we had topped the group.

TheSuperNerd:
If this thread existed in 2013... These are the certain reactions/events:

- Most certainly our resident Senegalese-Ivorian, Chriskels would predict a 3-0 bashing for Keshi's Super Eagles based on how highly he rates Ivorian talents based in Europe.

- Joebie will play Mr Bonafide Realist as always and predict a loss for Nigeria without batting an eyelid. And he will say it is based on our group stage performances so far. In his own words, "We haven't played well or scored much goals".

- Earthquake3 will set a bet on Nigeria losing and even go with how many goals we will concede. Lol

- Mickael2 will give tactical reasons why we stand no chance against CIV.

- Bascovanveli will predict a win for Nigeria with no logical reason and people will say he is being crazily patriotic again.

- Icon4s will remind everyone of history pointing to how Nigeria should not be underrated but won't be taken seriously.

- TheGoodJoe will propose how we can take on the Ivorians to produce a shock. He will ask for more dare and risk takings. He will propose we play Omeruo but Icon4s may feel a little uneasy about it due to the Experience talk but he will eventually concede because it would be Keshi's decision in the end.

- Seeing Sunday Mba on that Starting XI list will shock most fans and they will be like, "Is Keshi mad? Who in the hell is Sunday Mba?? In short.. we have lost!"
But they will all change mouth when Mba scores the winner later on.

- Nigeria scores for 1-0 and fans say, "Wow! Looks like we will win this if it stays like this."

- CIV equalises and fans say, "Ahhh... They have woken up! We will lose 3-1 Las Las."

- Mba scores 2-1 and Nigeria wins. Fans say, "I knew we could do it! Naija for life!"


We are a funny people my dear Jihday Sir....

100% !
But I wouldn't have raised eyebrow about Omeruo ahead of that game because of the Chemistry he had developed with Obaobona .

klexycole:
That's why the real analysts here have backed off. Where's Kog45, Icon4s, and a few other REAL pundits? They are just observing, so many unnecessary lamentations in here.

Men......I am not backing no out.

I am always here.

TheSuperNerd:
It may seem unpopular Dad... But dropping Iheanacho, even though deserved, was possibly one of the mistakes Rohr made. He is the only natural SS we have and is our best setpiece taker. I have said it long before now... Nacho is key to this new golden generation and will be back to continue his contributions. This is just his nadir point and he must rise to be counted worthy again.


All the same... We await whoever we are bound to take on now.

Solace earlier today did a pathway check to the final had Nigeria finished first. He said a potential quarter final meeting with Cameroun awaits and if we survive that, then a potential Semi final game vs Egypt awaits. Could we have dodged a bullet with this loss? Loolll... Time will tell

Yes Iheanacho deservedly dropped, but he would have provided more attacking option as an SS, if not for his deep in form.

From that group F, people are already suggesting we are playing Ghana in the 2nd round but I believe that group is still very open. Ghana can finish first and Cameroon second in the group. Benin can also finish first, Cameroon second and Ghana 3rd. Even Guinea-Bissau can finish second. It is still very open.

On our attacking setup. I don't like this Rohr's monotonous lone striker approach. Once the lone striker is crowded out that's all. I think Rohr should experiment one of Onyekuru or Chukwueze as an SS. A 4-4-2 can easily switch to 4-2-4 when on the offensive and that means more firing power and more scoring Opportunities.

I have said it before and will continue to say it. Rohr is a good Team manager but the NFF should please get him a tactician.

TheSuperNerd:
At Bolded.... Dad, Yes, you make a good point here. We had already qualified.

I recall at Chile 2015 U-17 WC, our Nwakali-led team lost to Croatia in the last group game but we went all the way to the title. We had already qualified and losing that game didn't mean we are suddenly poor.

Now, Boss Joseph1013 asked someone here a very good and Valid question.

"If this Madagascar game was a must-win game, do you think Rohr would have gone for this starting lineup?"

The answer to this question is obviously No. And that question shows a brilliant angle at looking at this loss. A loss coming in a dead rubber game. We were only playing to finish first. We rested our key players and made more changes to the lineup. Very valid points.


Now, I have no doubt we would emerge a different force in the round of 16 because Iwobi, Ndidi and Omeruo will return to the starting lineup. Chukwueze will hopefully get to be involved either from the start or from the bench (in case Simon or a fitter Kalu start).

The team lineup that beat Guinea will not lose to Madagascar. I know this much. But even at that, this team should have been better than this today and eve won this game if Rohr had put the players he picked for the right roles. Why toy with Mikel as an AM again against this die-hard Madagascar team looking to knock off a giant's head like David did? Why play Ogu as box-to-box? Why play Etebo as DM? Why start an unfit Kalu?

And to the players... Why Balogun, oh why wait for the ball to come to you?? Thus allowing a player that was behind you now get ahead of you, win the ball and score (not without disgracing Ezenwa).


See ehn Dad..... I know we were complacent defensively but Rohr's tactical set-up was the real miry clay today. The players he started today should be getting a win over Madagascar 5 out of 5 times if only they were deployed in the right roles.

But in all.... Let us see if this is the Chile 2015 Golden Eaglets scenario all over again. But I am now beyond convinced that Rohr is not the man to take our new heavy potentially golden generation to the land of "milk and honey"(translate that as Titles and Glories).


Even France with Didier Deschamps is crap. He may have won the World cup but it was not down to his tactical acumen. It was down to his squad's pool of unreal talents hungry for Glory. Now, he is being exposed for his tactical limitations and monotonous utility of France's deep pool of high bad ass quality talents ..... He is not the man to make France's WC triumph usher in a golden era of French domination. He lacks that bravery too but is tactically better than Rohr at least.

Nigeria's current rise of beastly talents deserve much better. I am focused on the long term and not jut short term glories. Our trophies cannot be easy qualifications for majors. And winning this Afcon will only cover the cracks that reads... "Rohr is not our Joshua. He is only a Moses."

The changes in the setup of the team were too many. There were no tactical changes even as we were chasing the game. All substitutions were "like for like".

We are condemned to playing lone strikers in this tournament as we don't have an SS that can give us that two strikers option. Except we opt for a 3-5-2 formation with 2 false 9s. I repeat, we went to Egypt with too many wingers. Asides, lacking an SS, we are lean in the midfield.

You are right about Kalu. He is not fully back. Besides, he didn't give his all. Probably trying to conserve energy to avoid a repeat of the fainting incident.

I hope with the return of some of the more regular players the team will get back on track.

ChrisKels:
Has anyone seen my good friend, icon4s today? Seems he's gone MIA

You are looking for Icon4s to blame again. Bros, your team lost. Deal with it and leave Icon4s alone. Or are you no longer a Nigerian?

Joebie:
icon4s
You said at least you wanted to see good football from SE
How do you rate us so far? I guess you already agree that we are not winning this AFCON

I am not writing the team off yet.

Complaincancy affected the entire team. The number of changes were too many.

The team was overly complaisant. We are better than this.

We don't have credible midfield options. Time for Ogu and Mikel to take a bow. We need fresh Supply of young midfielders.

Ogu and Balogun were responsible for that defensive error. Nightmarish first half for Balogun.

Again, Rohr went to Egypt with surplus in natural wingers. That team doesn't have a natural supporting striker. And so we are condemned to lone striker setup all tournament.

I always try not to judge a team with it's performance in its last group game if they had qualified before that game.

Onwards, we take the matches as they come.

I am shocked that no one in that Supersports studio is aware that Burundi are not out.

Burundi just needs a win against Guinea and finish 3rd and wait for other 3rd placed teams to emerge before knowing if they will be among the top 4!

For Yobo I am not surprised at his poor Permutational ability. After all at the 2010 WC after we lost our first two games he said we were out, not considering that we could still qualify if we beat S/Korea by any margin in the 3rd game and hope that Argentina beats Greece.
His default thinking is once u lose your first two games you are out

Again, 2011 qualifiers, a 2:1 win would have seen us through but we ended drawing 2:2 due to our pushing forward for a 3rd goal. Yobo was busy blaming the NFF for not telling the team that a 2:1 win was enough

Recall also how the Nigerian press declared our golden Eaglets as having qualified for this year's U17 WC because we won our first 2 games, and not putting all the 6 group matches into perspective.

We here really need to organize a course on Football permutations for many of these press men and football analysts.

IronGalaxy:
Lol, don't lie Iwobi is no regular, he's a bit part player at best and you need to check comments from Arsenal fans what they really think of him, you'll be humbled., Mustafi and Xhaka are also crappy players and they start from time to time. You really need to stop acting like everyone who plays in Europe is some Pele or something

Our league is made of crap players and yet many players from the continent have used it as their springboard to Europe. Your Emenike played in our second division before moving to Europe, check how many players in the Afcon come from our league, your number goalie also plays in our league as well and you have the guts to downplay it

There are myraid of reasons why our players don't move much to Europe. Some of our players refuse to move to countries like Greece, Turkey , Belgium etc because SA clubs can match them in salaries. It is to the detriment of our players but it's one of the reasons . We still have talent across Europe though, Photo, Dolly in France, that Leshabane boy at Leicester, Foster at Monaco, we have Mathews at Borussia Dortmund etc, it's just that Bafana coaches have not alway chosen the right players

Another lie, Egypt doesn't have a lot of players in Europe, only Salah and El Neny play for reputable European clubs the rest are home based dominated by Al ahly players , in fact North Africans have always boasted national teams dominated by home players while Algeria"s players surge into Europe' s big time is a recent phenomenon

Dean was playing in English league one so what? Don't act as if Nigerian players play for Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern et al. Odemwingie was playing at Rotherham not long ago as well and some of your players could be found at backwaters such as Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand etc. Football is football, this European fixation is boring. Zambia won the Afcon with a team dominated by PSL beating a star studded Ivory Coast led by Drogba

Lastly, the fact that Tau was loaned by Brighton has nothing to do with his footballing prowess but has all to do with red tape. The team that Tau plays for is owned by the same owner that owns Brighton so since Tau can't play in the Premiership owing to permit issues it only makes sense that he plays for this team, they wouldn't buy him if they weren't interested in him. Would a Premiership directly buy a player plying his trade for Kano pillars to begin with?

Oya name the Arsenal regulars.




I dey wait.

Joebie:
that one different na.. I dey talk the music when I dey hear for here. Live muisic versus tv music get different effect for body

How can you even be dancing to the Supporters tune when u dey watch Match for TV? Tension go even gree u?

Joebie:
I will dance as a supporter not necessarily that music dey sweet me.

Bros, have u ever watched any Nigerian game in a stadium with u sitting close to the Supporters club? O boy u will dance away ur sorrows

One Major beauty of the 24 team tournaments: It gives every team a chance, up to the last group game, to qualify. In this system every game is important.

Joebie:
I prefer this performance than what we had.

No naa we have a more complete band. When u here the Nigerian Supporters club play live you cannot sit on ur seat o. U will dance for 90mins. Except if u are not the kind of music/dancing person.

Earthquake3:
The only person U23 needs is Ndidi

The people you listed are adequately covered in the team, Balogun is in his 30s chai!

If you ask me we should not take any overaged player that is above 25.

Joebie:
No be Benin Republic? But it's not just the songs they sing, but the performance. It's clear and melodious.
Other countries you just hear noises

Na naija Supporters club dem dey copy naa

PDPGuy:
I know it’s way to early, but as of now, the three overage players I’ll pick for next year’s Olympics would be Ahmed Musa, Balogun and Omeruo - based on current form. I’m also imagining what a Dream team’s attacking trio of Chukwueze, Onyekuru, and Osimhen at would do to opposing defenses in Japan next year.

And not based on 2020 Form?

Joebie:
This Benin fans music make sense.. the best "noise" so far in this AFCON

They sing plenty of Yoruba songs

Earthquake3:
The commentator commentating on Benin vs Guinea Bissau knows the players down to their parents name

Jeez!!

You think say na like all those naija commentators wey no even know naija players name?

Danielnino00:
Icon4s and other great mathematicians on this thread, I hope u haven't thrown away ur calculators yet?
If so,kindly send it down to Accra. Our bredas over there need it to determine their qualification chance...

Gustav will supervise the delivery. No time to waste at all...

This one eh.... The differentiation no be here o.

Forget about those naughty Ghanaians that come here to make nois shouting Averageeeeeeee upandan. Ghanaians are good people. I forgave them when we joined together to Support the Falcons in the Final against SA in last year's AWC held in Ghana. For their sake's I will send the Calculator to Accra.

Leave these ones on nairaland to calculate their chances with their bare fingers.

But sincerely Ghana will have to work very hard to beat Guinea Bissau in their last group game.

Earthquake3:
Osihmen is the most clinical of our strikers I agree with you

From which games did u come to this conclusion?

ChrisKels:
Here it is, February 10th, the internet never forgets

So what is the correlation in this matter?

Where did you overate the Moroccan team here and where did I underate them?