₦airaland Forum

BaddieKay:
This will only lead to tribal war /insults..just watch and see

There's no need for tribal issues in here. Intelligent inputs are required for us to learn one or two things.

Thanks all

Comical Liar Mohammed, I see you Sir. At least u follow make sense here small because for me whether our dear President sends congratulatory message to Dickson or not doesn't change anything.

But I think it may be necessary though

Keneking:
Jonathan could have put him on the new N100 notes and N1,000 notes as well.

Goodluck Azikwe Jonathan sef

What brought Jonathan into this? I want good responses because I need to be enlightened about it not what you put up there

Gen. J.T.U. Aguiyi-Ironsi was the first Nigerian Military Head of State and Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces. This was made possible because there was some perceived sabotage in some sections of the country which made the first coup d'etat largely unsuccessful. The Military had no choice other than to appoint its highest ranking officer, which was Gen. Ironsi at the time, to lead the government. There's no known record he was involved in the coup; I might be wrong though.

Six months later, Gen. Muhammed was actively involved in the counter bloody coup which brought Gen. Gowon to power. He was also a major protagonist in the coup that brought himself, Gen. M. Muhammed, to power in 1975.

I personally consider Gen. M. Muhammed the best Nigerian Head of State ever because during the short periods he held sway, he introduced a lot of reforms, cleansed the system and set the stage and timeline for a return to democracy in 1979.

Although the two of them were killed in almost similar circumstances, what normally baffles is: why is he then adorning the twenty naira note and Ironsi not on any Nigerian currency?

AdaNri1:
he's not Igbo and he's definitely not a she.

I didn't say he/she is igbo. I said most of his/her comments here on NL show so much hatred for Igbo tribe, why?

obailala:
And I suppose the freefall in global oil prices which led to the terrible economy in the first instance, I suppose the oil price has risen in your own world right?

So if our oil dries up today or the price comes down less than $10 a barrel and remains that way forever, Nigeria will cease to exit abi? So you don't know what a good leader with creative mind who thinks out of the box entails? Does Singapore, S. Korea, Malaysia, etc, have oil? So u no no say na REAL leaders turned those countries around? Na wao

tuale4u:
We should commend d president 4 listening to us on nairaland and Nigeria masses in general for reducing aso rock feeding from 500million naira in d first version to 100Million naira in the new version.

This is better than in d past were president defend 1billion naira for Aso rock feeding

We should commend d president for reducing Car in presidency from 3.4billion in d first version to 340million in the new one. That is 90% drop.

I agree he was not well advised on how to go about it, but it was done with d interest of d masses. But we should focus on end point of the action and not on frivolities PDP are feeding d masses with.

We should understand that Buhari was not under any compulsion to reduce some of those extravagance. He could have ignored d criticism of d masses and leave the waste in d budget. But he listen to us and amended it.

Why is it not an issue in the House of Representative? The Budget was not only given to Senate. The budget was presented to Joint National Assembly. Not to senate alone. House of rep has no issue with d amendment. But criminal Saraki in d senate is trying to over blow it to protect himself from code of conduct tribunal because the supreme court decision is close by on the 5th of February. He is wasting his time. If Saraki thinks he can connive with PDP to blackmail the president into killing the anti-corruption drive of the president, he is making a big mistake .

The Budget has not be signed into law. It has not be approve. So it can be changed or ammended. The president saw an error and chose to correct. He may have been advised wrongly on how to do it, but the overall intention is noble. Nigerians should learn to praise noble things rather than destroying it with useless technicalities and partisanship.


PDP should not be taken seriously because they dont care a bit about Nigeria masses.
They only care about protecting thier criminal members and looters.

Next time the president must ensure he prove read every document before making it public to avoid this kind of embarrassment in the future.

You urgently need brain transplant. What is wrong with Nigerians? Presidency presenting two different versions of National budget and, one clandestinely, to the National Assembly means it has been doctored and is a serious crime that attracts jail term. Supporting the government doesn't mean when they do wrong I shouldn't condemn it. Oh! What type of people do we have in this country, I'm really in pain with your comment. Does it mean that Nigeria cannot be redeemed? What a shame! Mtchwwwwwwwwwwww

tuale4u:
We should commend d president 4 listening to us on nairaland and Nigeria masses in general for reducing aso rock feeding from 500million naira in d first version to 100Million naira in the new version.

This is better than in d past were president defend 1billion naira for Aso rock feeding

We should commend d president for reducing Car in presidency from 3.4billion in d first version to 340million in the new one. That is 90% drop.

I agree he was not well advised on how to go about it, but it was done with d interest of d masses. But we should focus on end point of the action and not on frivolities PDP are feeding d masses with.

We should understand that Buhari was not under any compulsion to reduce some of those extravagance. He could have ignored d criticism of d masses and leave the waste in d budget. But he listen to us and amended it.

Why is it not an issue in the House of Representative? The Budget was not only given to Senate. The budget was presented to Joint National Assembly. Not to senate alone. House of rep has no issue with d amendment. But criminal Saraki in d senate is trying to over blow it to protect himself from code of conduct tribunal because the supreme court decision is close by on the 5th of February. He is wasting his time. If Saraki thinks he can connive with PDP to blackmail the president into killing the anti-corruption drive of the president, he is making a big mistake .

The Budget has not be signed into law. It has not be approve. So it can be changed or ammended. The president saw an error and chose to correct. He may have been advised wrongly on how to do it, but the overall intention is noble. Nigerians should learn to praise noble things rather than destroying it with useless technicalities and partisanship.



PDP should not be taken seriously because they dont care a bit about Nigeria masses.
They only care about protecting thier criminal members and looters.

Next time the president must ensure he prove read every document before making it public to avoid this kind of embarrassment in the future.

Buhari thank you 4 listening to d masses

You urgently need brain transplant. What is wrong with Nigerians? Presidency presenting two different versions of National budget and, one clandestinely, to the National Assembly means it has been doctored and is a serious crime that attracts jail term. Supporting the government doesn't mean when they do wrong I shouldn't condemn it. Oh! What type of people do we have in this country, I'm really in pain with your comment. Does it mean that Nigeria cannot be redeemed? What a shame! Mtchwwwwwwwwwwww

tuale4u:
We should commend d president 4 listening to us on nairaland and Nigeria masses in general for reducing aso rock feeding from 500million naira in d first version to 100Million naira in the new version.

This is better than in d past were president defend 1billion naira for Aso rock feeding

We should commend d president for reducing Car in presidency from 3.4billion in d first version to 340million in the new one. That is 90% drop.

I agree he was not well advised on how to go about it, but it was done with d interest of d masses. But we should focus on end point of the action and not on frivolities PDP are feeding d masses with.

We should understand that Buhari was not under any compulsion to reduce some of those extravagance. He could have ignored d criticism of d masses and leave the waste in d budget. But he listen to us and amended it.

Why is it not an issue in the House of Representative? The Budget was not only given to Senate. The budget was presented to Joint National Assembly. Not to senate alone. House of rep has no issue with d amendment. But criminal Saraki in d senate is trying to over blow it to protect himself from code of conduct tribunal because the supreme court decision is close by on the 5th of February. He is wasting his time. If Saraki thinks he can connive with PDP to blackmail the president into killing the anti-corruption drive of the president, he is making a big mistake .

The Budget has not be signed into law. It has not be approve. So it can be changed or ammended. The president saw an error and chose to correct. He may have been advised wrongly on how to do it, but the overall intention is noble. Nigerians should learn to praise noble things rather than destroying it with useless technicalities and partisanship.



PDP should not be taken seriously because they dont care a bit about Nigeria masses.
They only care about protecting thier criminal members and looters.

Next time the president must ensure he prove read every document before making it public to avoid this kind of embarrassment in the future.

Buhari thank you 4 listening to d masses

You urgently need brain transplant. What is wrong with Nigerians? Presidency presenting two different versions of National budget and, one clandestinely, to the National Assembly means it has been doctored and is a serious crime that attracts jail term. Supporting the government doesn't mean when they do wrong I shouldn't condemn it. Oh! What type of people do we have in this country, I'm really in pain with your comment. Does it mean that Nigeria cannot be redeemed? What a shame! Mtchwwwwwwwwwwww

She should be redeployed immediately for our own good. The minister for Trade and Industry should handle that Finance Ministry because he's well grounded in that area

ShammahBarnabas:
I agree with you on everything said in your first paragraph.

But for the part you called me pathetic and enemy of the state I totally disagree with you on that.
There is no need for bitterness and name calling Sir.

Alright bro, I withdraw my earlier statement. I just want our country to progress so that the suffering many of our people are going through will reduce

One of the biggest problems we have in our country today is the hypocritical nature of some of our compatriots on issues of national importance. From my observations, corruption, when it pertains PDP chieftains are normally blown out of proportion by the media and even pronounced them guilty without a court having a say on it yet. But the media will try to suppress it when APC chieftains are involved. This is bad for our country.

Corruption recognizes no party. APC and PDP supporters ply same bad roads, suffer same acute power shortage, poor health care, etc, all caused largely by corruption.

Corruption is everywhere in this country be it in Federal, States or LGAs. Take three States (Lagos, Rivers and Akwa Ibom) based on their higher averagely budgets proposal than others, for example. Based on available data, the cumulative budgets proposed, approved and spent from 2008-2015, (8 years) are : Lagos-#4.1 Trillion, Rivers-#3.4 Trillion and Akwa Ibom-#3.25 Trillion, apart from loan. These may not be too much to be budgeted and spent but they are huge figures.

Lagos did well due to its peculiar nature. The former Lagos State governor is a smart guy, intelligent, focused and visionary though I have some reservations. Akwa Ibom did very well too but most contracts were grossly and wickedly overinflated. Apart from salaries and other things, can you honestly believe what's on ground in Rivers State today justify spending #3.4tn on? Among these 3 States, Rivers has the least infrastructure in the periods under review. If you disagree, you can carry out a personal assessment of these states.

Activities of former Rivers and Akwa Ibom State governors should be investigated as well as those of Abia, Adamawa, Plateau and Kaduna. Anyone found to have corruptly enriched himself should be jailed, properties confiscated and ban from public office for life.

The media and youths should distance themselves from every corrupt element be it in APC, PDP or any other party because these people are murderers and are our greatest enemies. It will ultimately be to our benefit.

God bless us all

ShammahBarnabas:
What was her mission?? I smell propaganda coming

I'm not supposed to dignify you with a reply because you obviously lack knowledge of what has been happening in this country from 1986 till date. Apart from Abacha's regime, can you tell me any decision our leaders made about our economy or budgeting processes in these periods without IMF input? Rather than improve our local industries they destroyed them.

Instead of looking inward, continue depending on their advice. You don't want this country to grow and develop. You're a pathetic fellow and enemy of the state

bakynes:
@ Id911 what is your problem, you claim you are not igbo bt you rooted for a less qualified igbo man in the Person of the Minister of Trade and investment. This is a faceless medium, if you claim you are not igbo nobody will know but the way you are going about it shows you are indeed igbo because I do not understand your reasoning of criticizing a minister that just started work 2 months ago. Sense should tell you to start judging btw 8 months to 1 year.

I did that based on my observations of current realities and only also suggested who I think might be considered. Didn't think about anyone's tribe.

But if you say I'm Igbo because I aired my views, well I can't make you believe otherwise.

Rolings:
YOU TOO SHUT UP, YES I SUPPORT THE PERSON YOU QUITED , IBOS AND THEIR KITH AND KIN LIKE YOU HAVE HAD YOUR CHANCE WITH NOI, TYPICAL OF YOU GUYS COS AN IBO IS NOT FINANCE MINISTER THERE IS NO ONE ELSE THAT CAN DO IT. I DON'T NORMALLY DO THIS BUT THE WAY YOU GUYS ALWAYS THROW INSULTS AT PEOPLE IN THIS GOVERNMENT BECAUSE YOUR HERO LOST MAKES ME DO THIS, LEAVE KEMI ADEOSUN ALONE

hmmmm... wrong add. Try the next one

cirmuell:
Give her a break, will you?

If you guys were this worried with the wellbeing of this country under the last administration I don't think we would be where we are today.

The one who chose her knows why he's still keeping her and the reason he chose her in the first place.

This is my country, I have to be worried when things don't seem to be going on well and be happy when they are ok.

Some of us are always like that irrespective of who's in power be it my mother or father.

We do it for the ultimate good of us all.
Thank you

Babalegba:
Lying unpatriotic insular prat

Thank you Mr truthful patriotic liberal brain

vislabraye:
But who invited the IMF boss ?

Good question, I was thinking Nigerians will protest against her visit due to the damage IMF has directly or indirectly caused our economy over the years but we all clapped and praised her. I don't know if we are really sincere to ourselves

seunmsg:
What is this thread doing on the FP? Seun and other mods, trying to bring down a lady that assumed office barely two months ago in a period of recession is unfair and unjust. Okonjo Iweala was never this disrespected and abused despite the mess she made of her cumulative 8 years in office.

If we want to criticise a public officer, we should at least give him/her enough time to show us what he/she can do. This thread is baseless, unpatriotic, lacks content and reeks of bigotry. NL should stop promoting silly and destructive criticism.

Usual archaic way of reasoning

musicwriter:
@id911


Above is what I saw on her wikipedia page. She was born in London and have only worked in Nigeria for 4 years. So, it's clear she have no knowledge of the Nigerian economic terrain.

While she can make a good minister of finance in England, but she can't here because she have no such training to do so in Nigeria. This's as good as making a British our finance minister.

This is why I try to explain people about education and that the education we acquire in Africa is not real education in the true sense of the word. The education the woman possess is not the education of a Nigerian mindset, but British. She can't be a good finance minister in Nigeria. It can't work!!.

I know and thanks so much for what you posted. I observed something and aired my view based on my observation but some people started calling me IGBO and paid PDP agent. Thought education is supposed to make us rational on issues but not dummies

kaziblake:
Pls don't forget to come back in 2yrs time to praise her.

I will, if things change I will also create a thread to praise her

Ndolarr:
Paid agents of discredited PDP corrupt politicians who have been wailing against the current Finance Minister are wasting their time! To many objective Nigerians, Kemi Adeosun is simply doing a wonderful job!! She knows what she is doing and is not the type to be led by the nose. She is a role model and a good advertisement for the Nigerian womenfolk. We should keep praying for her to surpass the past Finance Ministers, including the world bank mama with the notorious 'indigenous headgear'!!! We are proud of the young Finance Minister's simplicity, audacity and 'can do' spirit, which will surely facilitate her success by God's grace. Shame to detractors and satanic agents seeking to distract the innocent diva heading Finance Ministry. Indeed, God bless Buhari for his choice of the Ogun State indigenes as Nigeria's Finance Minister. Recall Buhari made Onaolapo Soleye, also from Ogun State, his Finance Minister in 1984! Need I say more?

Paid PDP agent? For your info I hate that party with passion. I used to pray for them to be kicked out of the central government. But I'm beginning to observe a trend where anyone who holds contrary views about the govt is seen as a PDP agent. That means there's no difference between APC and PDP, in fact, they're becoming worse

kaziblake:
Because it's too early to complain.

OK. Not complaining, just an observation

kaziblake:
Pls leave her alone,how many month in office and you guys are already complaining.
Is it because she is yoruba?

Why are you people attaching tribe to matters of National importance? If the business environment becomes harsher for investors to invest and jobs are not created won't it affects everyone? Some call me Igbo for airing my views. Why are we like this in this country?

Phobia1:
and must think u hv made sense wit dis ur reply. mumu, who carez of dis is ur zero tym of doin it. #Smh

Thank you

abbey621:
Firstly, you've used the wrong medium. Only those who want to be mischievous utilize Nairaland to reach the Federal government! Next, you have no proof of your assertions only sentiments, yes you heard me right sentiments. When was she appointed? In what condition did she meet the economy? These are honest questions you should have answers to if you truly want to be honest. Last but not least, when criticizing someone or something, you must offer counter points in order to boost your assertions. What would you be doing differently if you were in her shoes? Do you have a background in Finance or Economics? Do you know how complex her job is? I know it's easy to criticize but let's not criticize just for criticism sake!

How can you accused me of being mischievous and sentimental when I innocently aired my views based on current realities? What you should understand is, it's best for our country when we praise our leaders when they do well to also advice them conscientiously when things don't seem to go well

nightmile:
PMB to replace her with your mother farming cocoa yam in the village abi? Make una ban me again! Iyalaya any body

hmmmm...no home training. I pity u dear

Khan1993:
O.P I get that you want the best for the country but you didnt cite any example why you say shes a greenhorn and cant take us out of the economic crisis. You could be sued for slander and defamation of character. You also said you have been following all 36 ministers. Thats nice. I would like to know you take on the minister for youth and sport.
This current government is inchoate at the moment. Let give it time. God bless Nigeria

Sue for slander and defamation of character? Do u honestly understood what that means in connection with my submission? If I talk about minister for sport now, u will all abuse me. Let's leave that aside. God bless us all

Kikero112:
Well....the OP is throwing terms like ''fiscal policy'' around. I wonder how he expects us to stimulate the economy, what with the low price of oil and the poor savings left us by the last administraiton.


The fact is, we are an import dependent economy. And any attempt to throw money at the economy in an effort to stimulate growth would just deplete our foreign reserves further, lead to devaluation, and at the end of the day, runaway inflation.

Which leads me to my grouse with the OP....he offers no alternative solution. Because he knows that the first alternative....devaluation is worse than what we have right now.If we devalue our currency....it would just make imports ore expensive....which is a good thing....but it would make domestically produced goods more expensive....since....you guessed it...our industries rely on imported goods.

Alternative 2 is to just allow the dollars to flow....which would deplete our forex....and cause more inflation.


The cold reality is that what is happening right now is the least bad of the other situations. And additionally, we have to make the hard choices that we should have made ages ago....like since the 1980's. We have to cut subsides, increase taxes, and end corruption.We are not a rich nation, and we never were....because of our resource dependency. And we better wakey wakey and realise that.

Diversification into industries is the answer.Agriculture is just resource dependency by another name...as is mining.But it takes hard work and sacrifices to get there....regardless of whoever is in charge.

Yes, i agree with most of your submissions above. we have to diversity now because we can't keep on depending on oil. What of if our oil dries up today or the price in the global market becomes almost insignificant won't the country continue?

Urine:
You sound like a smart guy but it's too early to call for her removal, when was she appointed? Let's keep our fingers crossed and watch. What have we achieved with all the 'experts' from the 90's - 2015?

OK sir.