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Culture › Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by IDENNAA(m): 3:48pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
agadez007: I would have told you to confine that Omambala stuff to Umuoji alone but I have relations in Umuoji and most of them don't reason like you We cant all have the same mindset and reasoning. Now, back to the statement you made when you questioned my connection to Nri. Have you figured out who is Nri and who isn't ? I want to know because you claimed I am falsely claiming Nri ancestry. You labelled me an attachee....Mu bu nwa Igwulube Okodu, oru ebo n'ise! Nri should be proud we are related to them! But I dont want to create division in my own house. Diokpa, fie isaa na anya! |
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Culture › Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by IDENNAA(m): 12:43am On Jun 03, 2020 |
UdechiHD: According to the dude, he isn't even from Nri! He has continuously said he's from Umuoji, but when I asked him the names of his Igwe and Eze, he began to blab. I had to come to his rescue and named his village heads. A so-called son of the soil that doesn't know the names of his village heads.
This is a faceless forum, and anyone can claim anything. But the good thing is that Omanbala he has consistently projected since a long time now is only limited in nairaland. Truth be told, no one has heard about this Omanbala culture in the afformentioned communities in Anambra.
That is why, I asked where exactly is this phantom Omanbala practiced? He has gone ahead to list some cultural practices he knows nothing about. Something a true Anambrarian would never do, because they know the Igbo culture cuts across boundaries; except Igala migrants based in the fringes of the Omanbala river who don't know all this. But I'll burst his claims now. Silence for a minute let people who got substance write. You had drilled me on many occasion of my origin and I answered all your question without hesitation but when I pressed for your origin you evaded the question like faeces. You shameless , no culture having wwimp.You lying basstard , I answered all your questions satisfactorily and even pushed to defined how Nze na Ozo is taken in Umuoji and the categories of the society. You are definitely a shady character that cant be trusted. You are beneath me for that single dishonest behavior...I will never lie here because I am proud of my home town Umuoji and my clan , the Okodu clan comprising Nkpor( Idike) and Abatete(Ezogu). I am ffucking proud of my Okodu culture had brought glory to Anambra and Ani Igbo...I defend Nri because of my ancestry not because I am from the founding towns of Umunri, you ttoad. I will post the interactions to show that you a disgusting uncultured ppig. Wait for it. I coined the Omanbala theme and whether it popular or not I will make it popular because I have the knowledge , will and force to return my people to their beautiful culture and you can only go and hang yourself. |
Culture › Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by IDENNAA(m): 12:06am On Jun 03, 2020 |
agadez007: I don't know why some people dey carry Nri for head pass even Nri people Who is Nri and who is not ? Also , how do you know who they are ? Oga, ask questions and learn and stop writing senseless two sentence post that makes no point. |
Culture › Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by IDENNAA(m): 12:02am On Jun 03, 2020 |
agadez007: Omambala culture exists only online
What we have is Igbo culture not Nri or Eri culture I wonder why somebody who is not even from Anambra West/East or Ayamelum would call himself Omambala I , Odenigno Aroli coined the Omanbala culture theme. And , I dare say that the above post is both ignorant and senseless. I am from Umuoji and I will not discuss any Anambra group with anybody who is not ready to learn. Just for the records for ill informed ones. There is no town in Anambra called Nri and no town in Anambra called Omanbala or Idenmili where I am from. If you wanted to learn something you are not sure of then grow the balls to address me directly. I dont have time for nonsense. I am from Umuoji , Igwulube Okodu and there is a book written by Nonso Ekpunobi on history of Umuoji. If you wanted to learn then read more and widely about Anambra ,that way you could make sensible argument instead of throwing mud at me from the sidelines. There are Nri migrants outside of Anambra if you dont know. I dont want to insult you because I hate ignorance...while you are at it, remember Nri is just a part of Omanbala culture! |
Culture › Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by IDENNAA(m): 2:16am On Jun 02, 2020*. Modified: 2:57am On Jun 02, 2020 |
You can mention all Nri related towns as you wish but you will never dance the Ufie! And , you wish your mother is from Anambra...gbafuo! You think by telling me your mother is from there you will get a pass� You claim to be nwadiana yet you are here daily working tirelessly to defame Nri and drag it pride through the mud? You will not hear Omanbala culture because I am the one that created it and my people will respect it once they are well informed. When i come up with my plans the name Anambra will be changed. You just hate the coinage because it would further cement our cultural homogeneity. Your opinions will never be respected here because you arent one of us. You anger is simply basedon the fact you arent included. Insult Nri on the internet but come to Anambra gathering and see who breaks kola |
Culture › Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by IDENNAA(m): 2:14am On Jun 02, 2020 |
Whether Agukwu is little or not doesnt change its place in Igbo and Nigerian history. You comdenm Nri because you have no culture of note to be proud of. Matter of fact , we dont even know where you are from. Mention your home town....No...lol. Dont worry about Umunri problems...create your own culture! |
Culture › Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by IDENNAA(m): 2:09am On Jun 02, 2020*. Modified: 10:51am On Jun 02, 2020 |
UdechiHD: Omanbala identity is only but a figment of your imagination. It is only on Nairaland that I began hearing such fantasy. Chiefly sponsored by one Odenigbo Aroli, aka Nri fake priest, Idenna etc.
Where exactly is this so-called cultural practice happening? The Omanbala identity no one talks about even as far as Aguleri. Why is this useless identity only sponsored by unknown nairaland faceless champions. When does a river identifies a people? It's obvious we have Igala minorities claiming Nri here. Even if this identity is championed by Nzam people, maybe a few slaps will fine tune their heads back to reality. If I didn't tell you that the area you claims as Omanbala cultural influence is my maternal home, would you believe?
My own mother is from Awkuzu and that town is like my home. And from my sojourn to Igbariam, Nteje, Otuocha, Enugu-Ukwu, Agukwu-Nri, Agulu, Abba, Abagana, Enugu-Agidi, down to the fringes of Nibo, Nise, and Amawbia, I didn't see, hear or observe any Omanbala trash. Where do you say you're from again Mr Idenna? This Omanbala in question is hardly mentioned in the areas I listed above, to the extent that Agulu lake and Idemili river is more pronounced than it. Even the Nri you're hyping is unknown in Anambra, and need the help of a banner to identify itself.
Who goes to Agukwu, to do what exactly? The first time I passed the small village, I didn't know it was the hyped Nri. It was a friend that pointed to an advert, buried under a banner hung in the entrance of the small town titled 'The ancient Kingdom of Nri —cradle of Igbo civilization'. An Nri town with no lands, and whose source of survival is limited in the hands of the Umudiana sorrounding it. Even Agukwu supposed headship is still challenged by other Umueri groups who don't want to be left out of the tourism potentials enjoyed by Nri. Even in as far as Awka nobody gives a crap about dead Nri culture, just as the Abians don't give a crap about dead Aro. Omanbala culture my ass.
I guess we need to fix a meeting someday, maybe when I'm in Awkuzu let's settle this discussion for good. I would like to know this so-called Omanbala cultural influence and communities. Omanbala culture was coined by me, OdenigboAroli based on group of cultural theme common in the the Omanbala. List of traditions that qualifies a town as Omanbala cultured. Agaba Iduu masquerade Ijele masquerade Igba ndi eze(Abiulor, Akwunechenyi, Ijele) drums Otu Odu/Omu Nze na Ozo and its accessories Style of dance common in the areas...we don't dance with butt shaking with our nobles sitting. Omanbala family of dialects Ufie Egwu ota The Ogidi royal crown Ofala Ikenga Ogwugwu na Udo Mbem/mmaku Ichi Etc. The aforementioned are tradition inherent in the Omanbala culture. You , a non Omanbala dont have these and it sets us apart. You can never merge Anambra and Imo because we arent same. Enugu and Enuani are closer but not Imo, your home state. Even , you hqve evaded telling me your town of origin. Iburo Onye Anambra and you will never be even if you marry one. You will leave this planet as a non Anambra man! Deal withit. |
Culture › Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by IDENNAA(m): 6:53pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
darfay: Even Nok culture is said to be that of a lost civilization and there is no proof of being ancestors to middle belters as we know it. The Igbo ukwu bronze work were most likely carried out by a lost civilization who were displaced by Igbo migration into the area. Oga, what is wrong with you? Those artifacts bear motifs consistent with Anambra groups like the Python , Ichi etc. How do you explain that ? |
Culture › Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by IDENNAA(m): 6:49pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
RedboneSmith: I'm no longer from Imo. I'm now from Oshogbo.
Dumbfụck. 
An Urhobo boy was here yesterday, questioning your heritage, you couldn't say pim because you lack the intelletual ability to do so. You looked on dumb as I fought your fight for you.
Olugo na insult, Ị mapụta, makana Ị nụlụ Awka-Orlu that every scholar, geographer and historian and student of demographics knows about. Anụmanụ na-amarọ ife. The guy misunderstood the message you are trying to convey but I get his frustration. Many southern Igbo are hell bent on tarnishing the glory of our Omanbala identity. This thread has angered a lot of people with Nri roots and some of us are just hot headed. |
Culture › Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by IDENNAA(m): 6:46pm On Jun 01, 2020 |
UdechiHD: I agree with the Ichi scarification which shows that the decline of the Igbo Ukwu art work occurred in the 15th century. Similar to the period of Nri arrival and which may have even contributed to the end of an era.
You called the Isu cultureless nonentity, lol! Well, the same way the Isu lost the traditions of their origin, is the same way the Awka, Nsukka, Okigwe, Owerri, Oru, Nnewi, etc forgot their own origin. Something that is not true of those who crossed the river, but out of shame has continuously refused to accept their Igala origin. Is it not a shame that your Nri is a backrunner to the great Igbo culture that has thrived since centuries? Awka, it's related and neighboring towns share culture with Nri and over a long period of time they morphed into a homogeneous culture just like all Omanbala towns. Anambra towns share A homogeneous culture and it will remain so. Nnewi , though with mixed heritage is also Nri cultured town and practice same culture as their Omanbala family. Nsukka also practice Nri cultured but they eat the sacred python and we consider it both disgusting and taboo. Anambra people barely started inter marrying with them. As for Owerri , Oru , Okigwe etc. I could careless what they do down there as long as it's not hurting my culture. The rest of the nonsense you wrote is none of my business. |
Culture › Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by IDENNAA(m): 2:53am On Jun 01, 2020 |
JubrilBuhari: I doubt there is anything like this or even cultural relationship. Seems like something you just formed off hand to bring two unrelated terms. Awka is very far to Orlu and they don't even share boundaries.
Ihiala-Orlu could have make sense not Awake-Orlu. I also don't even think there was any point in time they even shared administrative blok. Awka- Orlu is not used to classify a people of similar cultural practices. I know why you are alarmed but no problem. |
Culture › Re: The Oldest Bronze Artifacts Known In West Africa, The Igboukwu Bronze by IDENNAA(m): 2:46am On Jun 01, 2020 |
UdechiHD: Igbo ukwu bronze is older than Nri. This Nri mythology is beginning to ridicule earlier Igbo civilization. Nri is 14th century for crying out loud, but the Igbo Ukwu civilization is in the BC.
All the forged history tieing Igbo origin to Nri are not proven but doctored. Any wonder some folks are bent on connecting yesterday Nri to the ownership of Igbo Ukwu bronzes to gain some authority.
But the truth is that, the only Igbo clan who can claim ownership to the bronze work remains the Isu! Why? One, Isu is far older than Nri and have no history of coming from anywhere. Two, the area now claimed by the immigrant Oraeri is territorially Isu — geographically, linguistically and culturally. Even a lot of the cultural practices casted in that mask still resonate around the Isu area. For instance the snake totem etc. But sadly, Igbo history is bedevilled with quack historians with their plagiarism research. Almost all the wack Igbo historians nowadays are simply doing quote and paste, copying the works of the likes of Isichei etc. What stops Igbo historians from carrying out more research or continue the work of Thurstan Shaw to unearth more truths. Apart from Dr. Nwaezeigwe, who is venturing into newer point of view, we have no notable Igbo historian doing something unique, somone who goes to the areas themselves to carry out objective and mind blowing research in areas like the Igbo hinterlands, western Igbo, northern Igbo and even in coastal Bonny and Nembe to dig out facts. Igboukwu bronze is not older than Nri because they bore Nri motif like ichi. Isu is a forgotten group without a definite culture. Nobody knew their original home land but I believe they were one of the group that migrated southward during the drought. Many groups lived on what is known as Anambra and we do not have evidence to prove Igboukwu is Isu. And, no , we don't know Isu and they can't claim the artifacts.....go back to Imo and mind your business. You cultureless nonentity |
Culture › Re: Is Culture And Tradition Idol Worshiping? by IDENNAA(m): 1:44pm On May 31, 2020 |
Ilekeh: I am more interested in Yoruba mythology than in reading the stories in the Bible.
Jesus is also an idol through another culture's perspective. Ilekeh Cc. Longest time |
Culture › Re: History Of Ikwerre, Ekpeye, Ogba People In Rivers State By Prof. Eric Amadi by IDENNAA(m): 1:37pm On May 31, 2020 |
AreaFada2: Okoro in Benin even means boy but most commonly used as Prince. Son of the Oba.
Okoro N'okhua is crown prince. Before he is invested as Edaiken.
Amadi is a common name. Both are still regular surnames in Benin. Well, it didn't just stopped there. Ikwerre is undeniably very Igboid. They can claim whatever ancestry that suits them but that Bini story is very sad. I have no doubt that Ikwerre's are relatives to the Igbo north of them , who broke off and morphed into a unique society. All these other ones wey dem dey yarn na dust |
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Politics › Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by IDENNAA(m): 8:13pm On May 29, 2020 |
PeterUdeme: The Igbo elites called for ipob proscription. Let Igbo governors and politicians support Biafra today and see if it won’t be achieved within the shortest time.
The party does not have to tell everyone it’s a separatist party. By their actions and ipob support and dominance, they could push for referendum in the legislative houses. The Igbo elites are brutally against Biafra. You think Allen Onyema would want Igbo to secede! |
Politics › Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by IDENNAA(m): 8:11pm On May 29, 2020 |
kayfra: You are focusing on state actors i.e. 13% derivation. The people that you need for your plan are non-state actors abd they are getting settled under the table and also via means like NDDC
You can't win on the negotiating table especially when it will involve struggle at which point they won't get paid a dime till a resolution is met. You underestimate the short term gratification and motivations of a black man Make more sense like this post and stop spewing ethnic hate. |
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