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Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by IDENNAA(m): 9:14pm On May 03, 2020
AreaFada2:
I know many of you guys are so filled with hate to read widely. Tribalism makes it impossible for you to learn about others, You end up insulting and beating your chests.

Our Nigerian soldiers? Well, Igbo invaded Midwest first. Igbo brought the genocide upon Asaba, who out of fear collaborated somewhat with Igbo. Re-enforcing the suspicion that the coup plotters had Igbo support. To take over Nigeria. Perception is a powerful thing. You modern generation are giving the same perception now.

What you forgot is what happened after the coup was noted by Hausa Fulani. Read Shagari's biography.

With the death of Balewa (body not yet found), Zik with his Benin personal physician Dr Idemudia convalescing on a cruise in the Caribbean, Senate leader Dr Nwafor Orizu was acting president. At Dr Orizu's house, some of Balewa's cabinet were meeting with him. Ironsi walked in and went into a private room with Orizu to discuss privately. They emerged only for Ironsi to demand to be allowed to rule and "restore" order or threaten the military would revolt. Shagari and other Northerners took note. Deputy to Balewa called Dipcharima should have become Prime Minister but Orizu missed that chance. It caused a big problem going forward.

So face your history, read widely and control your overt hatred towards every tribe. Even if you want to leave, you still need other people to support it. Benin built an Empire, lost to the British and we're cool. I cannot see how stating history other people have written about themselves makes Benins aggressors.

If Benin is little, quite remarkable that the same Benin is what people know in African history alongside Egypt, Nubia, Ethiopia, Zulus, Mali, Ashanti. To be small and achieve big things is far better than being big and have no history of note. You forget that until recently, Igbo were small autonomous communities. Aro & Ijaw seriously decimated those Igbo communities by selling Igbo slaves. Whereas Benin was wise enough to ban slave trade in the 1600s already.

I have been to many museums around the world and I know what I see.
Oga , I dont need irrelevant Nigerian history from a pathological history revisionist.

The point here is that you wanted to create an Edo and Delta who are against Ndigbo yet the western Igbo who are native to Delta masterminded the 1966 coupe. They were also amongs the Igbos the Sarduana accused of hatching a plan to dominate and control the north. Are you not aware of this ? So, therefore , mind your statement when you cunningly attempt to pit Delta against Igbo...We have indigenous Igbo native to Delta and even Bini and when we are ready every Igboid areas will come back to the Igbo fold including the Igbanke who you are oppressing.

You can take Edoid tribes and we dont care! But , you cant withstand the domineering force of the Igbo nation. You had your opportunity and now Bini is literally dead but we are just starting. Are you ready ?

Revising history or telling blatant lies to sooth your bruised ego doesnt stop Bini from being a chiefdom and having no relics of ancient civilization. You are not Songhai , Malian empire , Ashanti , Nubia nor the Egypt. You are largely inconsequential and you know this. But I careless about what happen in that your fetish dungeon. Western Igbo is a well established Igbo settlement and no they are not mixed with Edo , they are 95% Igbo! If your so called empire was great then we wouldnt be doing this. You can find remnants of Malian empire in todays northern Nigeria but you are non existent in west Igbo. The Igbo culture was apparently superior despite not having a centralized leadership...who God has blessed no man can curse.

Just because you took guns from the Portuguesse and terrorized your neighbor doesnt mean you were brave...otherwise , show me your braveness. Your Oba has the final say in your land but in my land we all have the final say...Igbo enwe eze!
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by IDENNAA(m): 7:25pm On May 03, 2020
Ghostwon5:
1) These maps are dated, they were drawn by eyewitnesses whom have been dead for hundreds of years.
2) do I really need to get into the inconsistencies of your write-up ?
3)city walls: well Paris also had city walls, so in your logics, Paris was never the capital of France ?
Rome also had city walls...
City walls are a sign of an advanced civilisation. You wouldn't know though.

4) the Greek, ottoman, Roman, persian, Mongol empires each comprises several kingdoms with different cultures and languages
5)you hear the words of zik and then you say it is fairytales, you see maps drawn by eyewitness, you also claim "well na man made", well I can't argue with that, except the man who made it was an eyewitness to the past.

6) you are obviously in denial of a proven fact.
The map you posted is an intellectual embarrassment because nothing on ground supports it. No where in the western Igbo is Bini culure practiced. You didnt rule over anybody but your village. Stop crying already over your dead chiefdom.

French is spoken in both Paris and France and beyond....I havent read about France but I know this much. Now where is Bini culture in western Igbo ? Its non exisen

Bini didnt build walls they dug hole around them...they had no writting script like the Arochukwu and no you are not advanced. You can exaggerate all you want but we will force you in your little place where you and your chiefdom belong.

Greek , Ottman , Mongol etc have remnants of their civilizations...where is yours ? Non existent !
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by IDENNAA(m): 7:14pm On May 03, 2020
gregyboy:
I know the monarch in this picture we attended the same secondary

While in sec school he and is younger brother hid thier kingship identity......
His younger brother was my coursemate his name was emeke we tried calling him emeka he frowned at it we even called him igbo he. Also frowned at it too, we were confused at then we couldn't explain his reluctantcy towards igbo, but one thing i could remeber he was fascinated by edo history but we couldn't still understand the mystery untill this is elder brother was crowned after years after we left secondary sechool everything began occurring to me

Again Show me any anioma who claim igbo.....


Because they have igbo name does that change the fact they aint mixed

Hausas have islamic names does that make them fulanis..... Think
Your brain is very dense , bikonu ! The same ignorant traditional ruler from Isele Ukwu who went to Oba of Bini to embarrass himself and thereby reducing the worth of his throne and his people was also at Obi of Onicha palace during Ofala festival. He believed the lie that his people migrated from Bini and were relatives to Onicha Mmili. However , same Onicha Mmili led by Agbogidi Nnanyelugo Achebe told BBC blatantly that Onicha were Igbos on reverse migration. However, the king w/o self respect is in his twenty while Ogbu Onye Mbosi Ndu na Agunaria is a well educated and traveled man with abundant riches, so who do we believe based on traditional realities.

Ralph Uwechue was the past president of Ohaneze Ndigbo , he is Anioma , Utomi is Anioma , my inlaws are Anioma and you claimed you never saw any Anioma person claim Igbo ? You are sad !

If he was fascinated with Edo culture let them practice Edo culture...stop practicing Igbo culture
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by IDENNAA(m): 6:37pm On May 03, 2020
Ghostwon5:
Precolonial map of Benin empire:

https://www.raremaps.com/gallery/detail/64869/africae-tabula-nova-ortelius
Listen attentively , that map was man made. Otherwise , how come the same Bini that you claim covered these areas have absolutely no influence in the same region. Your language was never spoken there , you culture and social style was never practiced , you dog a hole around you in attempt to ward off enemies....now this is quite funny, the same people you claimed to rule over where the same people you are scared to interact with?

You guys are bunch of clowns
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by IDENNAA(m): 6:32pm On May 03, 2020
AreaFada2:
Zik born in 1904 probably heard that story from around 1912 to 1925. A period Bein was still at its lowest for about 900 years. Benin was no more dominant as an empire, in fact Eweka I was just using wisdom and tenacity in dealing with the British to get Benin by.

No political advantage to gain from Benin. Even in 1970, I see nothing from political calculation for Zik to gain. In fact he infuriated Ojukwu who was bent on taking all of what is now South South. Even invading neutral Midwest years earlier.

That invasion means Edo and Delta cannot be neutral again in any matter concerning Biafra. Because our neutrality seeking to be a peacemaker was rewarded with a bad coin.
It sowed the seed of suspicion about Igbo domination agenda.

That guy you are replying just learnt the word fabricate. Lol.
Of course replying him is for the benefit of reasonable silent readers. Because if you tell him we are in the month of May he will still call it fabrication. grin cheesy
Bring the researched facts that proved Onicha were once Bini people or you can keep mute. Edo and Delta is a vague representation, be very specific. The same neutral Delta was the origin of the 1966 coupe led by mostly Anioma generals.... grin grin grin grin grin

You little Bini aggressors thought you are wise but we have your brain matters in our palms. You want Anioma ? The same Anioma where your Nigerian soldiers commited genocide ?? We have you on a headlock !
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by IDENNAA(m): 6:26pm On May 03, 2020
AreaFada2:
Who says Benin wants anything to do with the general Igbo? But those parts that are now considered part of wider Igbo that trace their origins to Benin, nobody has any right to deny them their history. Not you. Not me.
No parts of Igbo land traces their origin to Bini by tradition. In the field of research you must present verifiable fact according to traditional realities to get a headway. Zik is not a historian and yes the fable he was told were tales by the moon light told to us by our grand parents...the ones that starts with Obodo Iduu na Oba. You are holding very tightly to only Ziks story because it favors your little Bini village. grin grin
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by IDENNAA(m): 10:45pm On May 02, 2020
samuk:
I know you are probably thinking Obi is Igbo title, don't forget the popular saying in Igbo is "Igbo enwe eze", which translates to "the Igbo have no king
Bros , please don’t delve into what you know little about. Anioma weren’t the only ones with Obi title. Nnewi in Anambra has Obi from precolonial time. Contrary to your understanding of Igbo enweze saying....Igbo proverbs are not interpreted in the literal. It means no man dictates to the Igbo like you Bini that see your Oba as a god. Igbos will dethroned any king because oramelueze.

You need to understand that Igbo operates a version of democratic system. We also operate a noble institution, in the Nze na Ozo who are like the lords of the land. Bros, you don’t understand the Igbo man, neither do you want to humble yourself and learn.
Culture › Re: Ukwuani And Igbo Are They Really The Same. by IDENNAA(m): 7:22pm On May 02, 2020
Onego:
haha why will you say that na
Straight to the point, no beating around the bush.

Why didn't you make any response to the link RedboneSmith posted
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by IDENNAA(m): 12:48pm On May 02, 2020
samuk:
How many Igbos and people of south south people bear English names and does that make them English people, I guess former president Godluck Jonathan must be an English man.

I also guess the following Agbor names are Igbo names.

1. Ovia

2. Obaze

3. Obaigbena

4. Igunbor

6. Ogbemudien

And the Agbor traditional title Dein is an Igbo title.

Far more people in Agbor have Benin names compared to people of Edo North in Edo state, it doesn't makes them less of the descendants of the old empire.

Benin empire was a conglomerate of various people, tribes and languages just as Nigeria comprises of various tribes but all Nigeria. The same way the people that call themselves Igbo of today have various dialects.

Benin empire didn't force its subjects to speak one general language.

In your ignorant mind, Benin empire equates to Benin City. Even inside Benin city of today, not all Benin people bear Benin names.

Long before your anthropologists was born, a freed Igbo slave, Oluadah Equiano who is probably the first writer of Nigeria descent, wrote in 1776 that his Anambra native land was under the kingdom of Benin and the Oba of Benin was their overlord. You can now see that Benin empire didn't mean Benin City.

1n 1920 people of Onitsha and Anioma told your anthropologists the same thing.

1970 Nnamdi Azikiwe said the same thing.

In 2020 there are people in that area and beyond still claiming Benin. What more evidence do you require.
Your example of Igbo or people of south south bearing English name doesn’t hold water because English were invaders who literally imposed their culture on these people. On the other hand , the whole Ezechima clan never for one day spoke a word of Bini. You are beginning to sound pathetic with your lame comparisons. We are not invaders or empire builders, you are the one running around and terrorizing and killing Ezechima people. They left the vicinity of Bini because of war and arrived in my fathers land. We took them and cleaned them up and blessed them with our culture.

Agbor , indeed has a sizable Bini migrants but its eternerlly Igbo despite the Bini influence....when two cultures meet we will know who be oga. Ask Dein of Agbor to practice what he preach and change his name to non Igbo. At the end you can never claim Agbor because they are beginning to master Anioma central Igbo.....hahaha

Language and not name is the most important factor used to determine origin. Wouldn’t you agree

Olaudah Equanor left a child in a time the whole southern Nigeria was a thick rain forest. There were many inconsistencies with his book. If Onicha or anybody claim they are Bini then prove it , simply.

You can’t win this: all facts are squarely against you. If you claim you have found a medicine that could cure a certain disease you must prove it. The British anthropologist proved his knowledge with undeniable facts.
Culture › Re: Ukwuani And Igbo Are They Really The Same. by IDENNAA(m): 11:44am On May 02, 2020
Onego:
wow I feel like giving you a hug, thank you for this
I see you are quick to accept this version. But , I didn’t see you jubilating over the link Redbonesmith posted.
Culture › Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by IDENNAA(m): 4:03pm On May 01, 2020
UdechiHD:
They are jokers. A kinship built with force, stolen lands, raids and slavery won’t stand. Does it? In other climes the Aro would have been mandated to apologize for the demonic acts carried out by their fathers. But no, they still brag about it. There exist relics of slavery in Arochuckwu till this day that reminds us of that wicked atrocities.

I expect people to begin to challenge that idea. A confederacy that sounded the death knell on Igbo ancient civilizations.
The Aro confederacy is dead and buried and never to be unearthed again. An evil confederacy that sold our fore fathers to slavery and hasn't still apologize is talking about re-enacting one dead confederacy.

These Aros destroyed and renamed rival shrines of the Isu in Igwekala and that of the Awka in Agbala to Aro owned and still went ahead to elevate one Ubini Ukpabi. A confederacy that institutionalized Osu system in Igboland all for greed.

While their mates in Oyo were expanding their territories, and co-opting other tribes into the Yoruba empire, the useless Aro focused their attention on the destruction of Igboland.

Those in Arochukwu kicking up this idea are only grasping at straws. Why don’t they ask for their Aro Eshiet territory in Calabar who are bilingual till this day? After all they exist Aro terroritories in Efik/Ibibio land, in Ijawland, in Benue and even in Cameroon. But they can’t do this because they've always been local champions. If they don’t want to commence another round of Arophobia as happened in Ikwerre land and even Ngwaland, they should keep shut and rather promote Igbo agenda.

Truth be told, the coming of the Aro slave confederacy and even the Nri hegemony to relevance dragged ancient Igboland backwards. Both elevated their chief priest business that elevated mass ignorance, killing innovation and growth. All ancient Igbo civilizations we're destroyed because of some monopolistic greed by a people. We should thank our goodness that we still have the Igbo Ukwu archeological bronze works and those discovered in Nsukka that once reminded us how great the ancient Igbo were.
Aro didnt effect Awka dieties because Awka doesnt have Aro migrants. Awka and surrounding towns fought Aro and pushed them southward , this is why the only place Aro are found in Anambra is mostly in the southern fringe of Anambra.

Also , Aro didn't didn't bring Osu into Anambra areas ,maybe Imo , but certainly not Omanbala. However, we heard stories of how you guys were being decimated by Aro but that's about it with us and Aro.
Culture › Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by IDENNAA(m): 3:57pm On May 01, 2020
letu:
Aro reviving their Aro Confederacy yes they do, by indirectly promoting and making reference to other Igbo's as eg Aro Owerri colonie, Aro Idenmili colonie, Aro mbaisee colonie, Aro Onicha colonie, Aro Isu colonie etc.
Aro Idenmili ?? Please , elaborate .
Culture › Re: The Eze Nris Of Nri Town by IDENNAA(m): 10:41pm On Apr 30, 2020
SLAP44:
Ana ebu ana ebu?

Igbo amaka
Mba nu! Umunri di usor.

Ajaana daalu but I think I have read this piece from you, else where.
Culture › Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by IDENNAA(m): 10:38pm On Apr 30, 2020
UdechiHD:
Idenna the fake Nri man. It’s obvious you’ve resurrected your Julius Marlena handle.
Tell us the name of your Kings in your Umuoji? I hope you won’t fail again as you failed in the Pan Igbo thread. Lol!
Reply with your Julius Malema handle?
Oh you think I didn’t remember how you were busted. Omambala my ass.
You are in deep denial. I answered all the question you posed to me, satisfactorily. You , on the other hand has refused to tell us your origin.

I literally told you my family name but you chose to believe what your feelings told you.

Igwe Cyril Enweze would soon celebrate his last Ofala. I hope you know what that means...dont you ?
Culture › Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by IDENNAA(m): 7:55pm On Apr 30, 2020
UdechiHD:
This are some snapshot of your non-aboriginal roots. Sorry OP for posting this. But someone must be put in his place.
Here is the link.
https://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-politics-of-igbo-origin-and-culture-the-igbo-ukwu-and-nri-factors-reconsidered/
This is not your cup of tea and you have no say in it!
EOD!
Culture › Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by IDENNAA(m): 7:51pm On Apr 30, 2020
Juliusmalema:
Remain blessed and blessed.

Don't mind the the guy you quoted. let me give you simple definition of his obsession and anger.

All of them here are just after one state Omambala to dispute facts and distort history that's why he took sides with the Benin boy.


But the people they have been fighting for years to rewrite the history no send them.


Because on a single sitting Omambala will decimate them.


But most importantly they should stop disturbing our peace.
The guy has been fighting tooth and nail to ignite an internet war between Anambra towns ,but we are much wiser. A nonentity can never dismantle the painstakingly built Omanbala social structure and cohesion. Igwe bu ike! When they kicked Bishop Okpalaeke out I didn't see these element rise to fight for our brother. They humiliated him and chased him away and bragged about it. Now , when they need that Omanbala clout we suddenly become "one Igbo."

I will warn every Anambra person to be on the look out for these desperados.
Culture › Re: Current Ibo (delta Ibo/anambra) Names For Baby Boys. by IDENNAA(m): 7:43pm On Apr 30, 2020
Juliusmalema:
Not this day again
You will be hard pressed to find an Anambra man with Nnanyelugo as a first name. Just like Ezenwa , Ugonna , Nnabuenyi , Nwakibie , Ononenyi , Ugonabo , Ogbuefi , Igwenze etc.. They are title names. You may find them in Imo areas but definitely not Anambra , Enugu or Enuani
Culture › Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by IDENNAA(m): 3:06pm On Apr 30, 2020
The same Imo people who are eternally brotherhood beggars gathered together and kicked an Anambra Bishop (Okpalaeke) out just because he was not one of you...you shot yourselves in the leg!

You want Idenmili to fight Nri
You want Awka to fight Nri
You want Dunukofia to fight Nri
Lmao

Just to dismantle Anambra cohesion , a cohesion that has helped us to grow both politicall and economically.
Culture › Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by IDENNAA(m): 1:09pm On Apr 30, 2020
letu:
guy why you de fear fear like this now grin grin grin grin remember say you be man.
Fear of who ?

But why are Imo people always feel littla and,scared before Anambra person ?
We dont really remember you lot exist. You are the ones obsessed with Anambra...did I lie?
Culture › Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by IDENNAA(m): 1:04pm On Apr 30, 2020
UdechiHD:
I searched online but couldn't find a verifiable source. But here are a list of Igbo towns where the Pythons is revered.

https://www.nairaland.com/5418518/part-igbo-land-where-mustnt
Of course, you can never find anything because they do not exist, just in your imagination. Many towns in Anambra dont kill the eke because of the Idenmili traditions. In Idenmili its not only revered but worshipped like a God with a shrine at Nnobi.

I dont like discussing Imo because soon you will start claiming we are same people...we are not.

We dont dance like you
We dont eat what you eat like ofe ukazi , ofe Owerri , achi etc
We have a different social structure
We bear diffent names
We look different...Anambra men are taller
We dance to Ijele , Abiulor, Akwunechenyi royal drum
We dance Ufie of Ndi Nze
We have different masquerades
We dont speak like you

We are ffucking different. And , please leave Anambra alone! Jeez!
Culture › Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by IDENNAA(m): 12:51pm On Apr 30, 2020
UdechiHD:
It’s obvious you’re a layman in history. Open your ears and learn Mr Nri! Idemili is not the only place the Python totem is revered. A lot of places in Igboland revere the Python. Chief among these communities are:
Isu LGA - Called Eke Njaba
Njaba LGA - Called Eke Njaba
Awo-Idemili - Called Eke Njaba
Ihiala - In Anambra
Nembe - In Bayelsa
Ndokwa - In Delta etc
And all of these places have had that history since a long time.

Now I see why you always want to lump Nri into the mix. 14 Century Nri! Show me the towns Nri founded and I’ll show you the towns groups such as Isu, Awka and Aro founded. Lol! If I’m correct, the only town Nri settled in great number was your Umuoji, others may even be older than Agwu Ukwu Nri. Settling into a town shouldn't mean you founded it?

Igbos are one people. We may be diverse but we are one. Only that Agwu Ukwu Nri should be kept in their place and stop making stupid noise. Why are they the inky group in Umueri disturbing us with their fictitious story? Their origin is Igala and despite the revisionist nonsense of the Umueri clan of falling from the sky, their immigration to Igboland is still collaborated in Aguleri to this day. Nri invented nothing! The only thing they invested was the monopolisation of the chief priest business in pre-colonial time among their neigbours just as the Aros of Ubini Ukpabi fame.
And who told you that Akokwa don't have Ijele masquerades, lol! How can Nri invent a tradition older than it's existence?

No problem, as long as it is Igbo. However let me burst your head, his title is Onwa ne tiri oha. I'll post his Wikipedia page here.

As a matter of fact it's even Awka, Orlu, Owerri and Okigwe heartland, but because the Isu dominated the southern block, the reason I deliberately made use of Awka/Isu. I'll post a link to that. But don't get it twisted. However let me pity you here, history made use of Nri-Awka axis to explain villages from Aguleri - Umuoji - Awka. However, it's quite an insult to compare Awka who existed and even provided for Eri when he crossed the Omanbala river to Aguleri.
Agwu-Ukwu Nri should chill, maybe when Enugu Ukwu your Umueri head hand over the headship of your clan, then we will talk. So who again is the head of the Umueri clan? I heard it's between Aguleri and Enugu Ukwu and that Nri (Agwu Ukwu) is the youngest.
Again , only in Idenmili the python is WORSHIPPED, the rest just revered it. I never used the word "revered", you imported it to prove your flawed argument.

Again , Igbo are NOT one people. Chinenye knows that much and is happy with his Ngwa but you want to lump Nri /Awka to your state just to associate with Nri traditions. Igbo has different origin , practice different culture and speak different dialects. We are not one...this has always been the social structure of the Igbo. What made Anambra unique was Nri cultural spread in the area. Some Imo communities were impacted but very little. For instance , Arondizuogu is an Nri cultured town but they dont have Nri migrants. Stop lumpimg everyone together. Find something that make you stand out....if you do you wouldn't be feeling insecure.

The title Onwanetilora was an Anambra title but like an uncreative bunch you borrowed it and tried to change it to your Imo dialect. Just like you took the Ijele title and turned it to ijere. You people have continued to leech on Anambra cultural brilliance yet you refused to lower your head before us! Its disgusting! You are very uncultured. We made you humans but some of you have refused to pay homage but you will , eventually. Okwulu anaro aka onye kulia.


As for what happens in Anambra, its none of your gaddem business. When Ajaana Oka shows up we can discuss that. Omanbala is one family.....Idemmili ,Omanbala region, Umunri ,Onicha , the Adazi towns ,Dunukofia ,Oyi towns, Nnewi, Ihiala , the Ichi towns etc. are all closely related by blood and culture. Worry about your origin and state. I will never discuss my fatherland with a foreigner! You are NOT onye Anambra!! Get that in your skull.
Culture › Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by IDENNAA(m): 1:19am On Apr 30, 2020
UdechiHD:
Lol! Igbo Ukwu artifacts surely belongs to Igbo. Everything about the artifacts breaths and lives ancient Igbos. Either one of Awka who were blacksmith or Isu. Both of whom were ancient Igbo stock and live side by side.
How can Nri claim Igbo Ukwu? A group whose origin is still shrouded in secrecy - Isreal or Igala - wants to claim an artifact that is older than it?
Igbo Ukwu artifacts are evidence of migration from Nok which had a large conglomerate of tribes and thereafter Egypt, where these groups migrated from.
The Awka/Orlu heartland owns that artifact simple.
I guess we have to find ways to give Imo people reasons to feel proud , hence the Orlu suggestions...lol. If you dont know who made it just shut up. The only place Pythons are worshipped is in Idenmili and Idenmili has at least 3 Nri towns....Abatete , Umuoji , Nnokwa , Ojoto , Obosi (Ojoto and Obosi are same people), Nkpor etc. Thats why I said Nri and related groups but you want to lump Anambra and Imo together out of your own insecurities....these people are different.

We are NOT the same people. Igbo is diverse and its ok...the other day Orange drug took a title of Ijele....what da Bleep ?? You dont even have the Ijele culture!

Hope Uzodimma honorary title is Onwanetilora....since when? It's ok to borrow but it doesnt mean we are same people. Anambra people are Nri cultured people and we have characteristics and mannerisms of an average Anambra person.

I hate to hear Awka/Orlu nonsense...you lot created that. It has always been Nri/Awka axis
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by IDENNAA(m): 12:56am On Apr 30, 2020
You want us to believe a people w/o written history who we also couldn't verify a single aspect of their purported origin ? Are you ok.

Go to google and search origin of Umuoji and I can tell you somebody wrote that my ancient Umuoji town originated from Arochukwu...this person is from Umuoji , educated and influencial yet they are peddling false accounts of Umuoji history. Should I believe him knowing very well there is absolutely nothing that link us to Arochukwu.

Likewise, there is absolutely nothing liking Onicha to Bini except few item of kingship they borrowed. Oga , abeg , vamoose!
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by IDENNAA(m): 12:50am On Apr 30, 2020
samuk:
I was actually referring to you. His screenshot actually supports the Benin founding oral tradition of the people you are desperately trying to change. I guess you didn't read his submission or you didn't comprehend what was written.

The people claim Benin ancestry while those that were supposed to write what they were told said they couldn't find evidence and decided to disproved what they were told.
Yes, he stated what the oral tradition told before the mind blowing research that proved absolutely that Onicha couldn't have originated from Bini. If , so , how in the world does 99.9% of all Onicha people including Olona, Ukwu , Ugbo bear Igbotic name. This cant happen over night...explain that mystery.

How often does Bini , Uhrobo, Efemai , Eshan , Etsako have children and they all ended with Igbotic names. Its not possible except if we Igbo were oppressors that forced our culture on others but we aren't. Bini were the oppressors in the old times yet they ended up with nothing.

And , yes, you are eternally insecure and ignorant. Because if you knew Onicha culture very well you would never pay mind to any soul thats peddling the Bini story. Even the Bini closest neighbors like Igbanke and Agbor held on to their Igbo cultures....even the Ignophobic Obi/Dein of Agbor held to his Igbotic names till this day while he was busy cajoling his subjects to denounce Igbo. Dein Ikencuku Keagborekuzi is his name yet this is the most Igbo hating group on planet earth!!
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by IDENNAA(m): 11:21pm On Apr 29, 2020
samuk:
Too many ignorant bigoted latterday revisionist from the Biafra south east. Everyone now have to have Nri ancestry. Old history of the various people that make up the south east have to be replaced with new fabrications.
You called him ignorant just because he didn't swallow the bbullshit you have been feeding on, is not so ? You are a despicable soul
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by IDENNAA(m): 10:16pm On Apr 29, 2020
Bini was never an empire!!

Bini didn't establish any town in western Igbo.

Bini people dug a ditch around them for fear on invasion and you call that an empire.

You believe Zik's story because it makes you feel good having the Onicha as subordinates...smh. Culturally they are more elegant and graceful than you...that's Omanbala flow

Bros, great historians have nullified Ziks account but you are still perching on it because that version makes you happy...lol

Mankind!
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by IDENNAA(m): 10:04pm On Apr 29, 2020
People call you a liar because they found what you said to be untrue. Meanwhile , I never said Zik was a liar. He knew he was wrong but went ahead and wrote the nonsense
Culture › Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by IDENNAA(m): 9:55pm On Apr 29, 2020
RedboneSmith:
Hmmm. You still have some of your former cockiness, but you have also calmed down somehow. Lol. grin
Onye na eto ona amalu ife.
Culture › Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by IDENNAA(m): 9:54pm On Apr 29, 2020
ChinenyeN:
Calm yourself. I merely presented the academia's concerns so that you and UdechiHD can keep that in mind lest you waste time arguing on the details of the artifacts' origins. I came here to save you two time and energy. My goodwill wasted. Go figure. Lol.
If you say so
Culture › Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by IDENNAA(m): 9:30pm On Apr 29, 2020
RedboneSmith:
Are you Odenigbo Aroli, or do all of you from Umuoji have the same disposition?
Same nigga

I couldn't get the OdenigboAroli moniker back.

Umuoji have strong Nri presence and our culture breathes Nri...Egwu Obi Umuoji represents the culture of Anambra and Igbo to a large extent.
Culture › Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by IDENNAA(m): 9:17pm On Apr 29, 2020
UdechiHD:
The same way you were objective about us is the same way I’m towards others. What would I gain to elevate my ethnic group over the rest.
You have continued to hide your town and state ......why ?

You are so ffoolishly and ready to join Bini elements to fight Nri just because of jealous cheesy

Hopeless man , you didn't see the falsehood they were peddling?


Anyways, you have nothing to fight for....I am from Oji Okodu. Where are you from ? Tell me coward!
Culture › Re: Ise! Does Every Group In The Igboid Language Group Use It. by IDENNAA(m): 9:13pm On Apr 29, 2020
ChinenyeN:
There's evidence to suggest that the Igbo Ukwu artifacts likely do not belong to either Nri or Igbo Ukwu. It's far more likely to have belonged to a now forgotten group or community that inhabited the area prior.
Whether it belongs to Nri or related groups doesn't change the date of the artifacts. Its older than Bini and its found in Anambra. I dont meddle in your Ngwa or Abia matters...Do I ? Dont act like that post was the only submission that is worth your read. You people (Imo and Abia) are too small to bring the greatness of Nri down. You are too preoccupied with Nri matters...I wonder why

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