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omonnakoda:
Why do you keep parroting SS/SE upandan?

You are dense. If what you read on this thread is not enough to cure paranoia then dont quote me again. Whenever you see someone write as/sw tell them to explain because I dont know what it is.

omonnakoda:
Ibos existed with Edo?

He meant the old eastern region. Igbo generally don't care about Edoid people that much. We are mostly interested in an all Igbo republic. Not that you haven't read it here but I know you are just here to take shots at the Igbo. We dont want Edoid, only Ignoid. EOD

pazienza:
I agree with your submissions, but would like to extrapolate on number 5. We don't need any form of union with non Igbo groups down south. The toxicity and resentment coming from those quarters has passed the threshold that would make such arrangements worth sacrificing the lure of homogeneous Igbo country for.
I believe we can relate with all of them through AU and ECOWAS as mere neighbors. Those people are not our friends or enemies, and to mistake them for brothers or kins is the highest height of delusion. They are just neighbors with interests some of which are in clash with Igbo interests, and we must relate with them like we should relate with the rest of humanity. Not with love or hate, as no such emotions exist in international relations, but strictly for business and aim to protect and advance Igbo interests. We work with them in areas their interest align with ours, and work against them, where their interest is injurious to ours.
This is how we rebuild Igboland. Emotionalism must make way for pragmatism. But under no circumstances will I be a party to any form of arrangements that involves forming a country with non Igbo groups down there.

You have a point on need of forming an alternative group to present a better front for Biafra actualization. Onlytruth the last Eze Ndiigbo in NL talked extensively about this years ago, when we figured out that MASSOB was dysfunctional, this was before IPOB came on board.
Its a good idea, but I think if we can get IPOB to have a rechange of strategy and accept our suggestions, it would be better than starting to build a new organization from scratch and start clashing with IPOB, which would further divide our camp and set us more backward as far as this battle for Igbo independence is involved. For now, I think we should apply more pressure on IPOB to change, forming an alternative group and abandoning the wonderful structure IPOB has built across the entire world to start afresh, doesn't sit well with me, I believe on continuity,
I believe IPOB should be given more time to correct her own mistakes. The more we apply pressure by being vocal on need for Pure Igbo country, the more we win over our people in IPOB. We shouldn't throw away the baby with the bath water.

You can join us at Proudly Anioma, Proudly Igbo page ,if you want to exchange ideas with people who believe on Igbo only Biafra, also you can.join Igbo Omenana/Omenala defenders project group
( though, these ones are pro jewish Igbos, which I don't support, but atleast, they are Igbo purists who believe in Igbo only country).

Chukwu gozie gi.

Ide nnaa, daalu.
This has always been my position that we relate with them,strictly on business terms. No emotionally coated arrangements. I have come to learn that these people have deep swated hate towards us and we must teach our offspring these thing....maka ndi love na agu

Dogogo1900:
My brother why waste your time and intelligence to argue with Biafra people?these people have an inferiority complex, they can't achieve their goals without us so they are doing attachment by force.
Let them waste their time, when the time comes Niger Delta Republic will be a reality.

You are nothing but an intellectual leper. Go learn how to write simple sentence before you attack people online.

Efezik007:
I'm the Op that created this topic. I'm an Isoko man from Delta state. I really don't want to comment on this topic that I created. but some elements from other region have been trying hard to exclude Edo from Niger Delta which is getting offensive.
most people in this forum didn't know that almost all tribes in present Delta state came from the palace of the great Benin Empire. from lka -Aboh-Isoko-Urhobo-Ndokwa ( almost all tribes )
so the formal mid-west region have a blood lineage.

I know for sure that western Igbo doesn't come from your Bini land. I pray you unite with your Bini land , I pray fervently. We want only Igbo in our supposed country...again Nnamdi Kanu doesnt speak for Igbo. He is the Biafran leader. We don't want anything to do with Edoid groups like Edo State, Uhrobo, Isoko , Itshekiri etc. Good Goodluck to you guys and may you find peace.

Again, for the umpteenth time , we dont want you in the proposed Igbo nation...I want you to absorb this information.

TheGodlessGod:
how do Niger Deltans think? You think Edo people are toys you can just pass around??

Our history is rich and our culture isn't begging another ethnic groups for acceptance, we aren't parasites and don't depend on other ethnic groups resources to develope.

Do your Niger Delta, Biafra, oduduwa etc things and let Edo people worry about their future

Whose culture in Nigeria isnt rich...actually , your culture is sparse ,starts and end with one man. Run comot. You guys are daft

Which Aro founded Onicha ? You guys are

letu:
Continue

Which Aro Idenmili ,nwokem ? Aro didnt pass the southern fringe of Anambra and there is a good explanation to that.

AniOmaa:
Do I really need to prove anything to you? People join Nairaland almost everyday and of course you have to create an account to participate as an active member... so what exactly is your point? If you want to know my identity then all you have to do is PM me and I'll readily give you access to my Facebook account and social media groups. I don't have time for your Nairaland pettiness to waste my time proving anything to anybody.

I questioned your identity because hardly you see Anioma person go out of their way to say they are Igbo..unless its critical. Yet , I am not questioning your legitimacy.

Most Anioma people who claim Igbo are those married from south east and tasted the rich meal from south eastern women.

LegendHero:
And what’s my business with pazienza or what he represents and who says he should be the benchmark for moral values?

Just that I’m in a good mood tonight which explained why I’m answering you in a civil way. You’re preaching to the wrong person and it’s best you channel your energy into something else.

I’m a Yoruba to the core, if that makes me a tribalist then I am NOT sorry for being a tribalist. Do you have any more thing to say?

Oga, if you behave unruly around civil people you will be corrected and cautioned. You can shove your proud whatever down the toilet. If your parent didnt teach you simple manners then dont get upset when even ypounger people give you lessons. And calm the ffuck down! You can only bark, simply...omoluabi my left ball

AniOmaa:
Pazienza,

Anioma is Igbo and Igbo is Anioma. Make no mistake about that fact. Please whether it's out of tactful political correctness, subtle modesty or genuine conviction... stop grandstanding when it comes to unequivocally defining our Igboness (I mean the Anioma nation). Enuani are part and parcel of the Biafran project, I can't categorize the few clowns who claim Benin origins, but even those ones are fast becoming a negligible minority as the vast majority of their once Beninphilic compatriots are fast realizing their folly. I can audaciously tell you that 90% of the greater Anioma nation are have their loyalties unapologetically hinged to the Biafran project, and welcome the idea of a homogeneous Igbo nation... and why shouldn't we? We are Igbos after all. The mistake Ojukwu made in 1967 was to include the non-Igbo minorities in Biafra, but then with the benefit of hindsight, I can understand cause the circumstances of events was such that we thought the Eastern region regardless of tribe was united in the same fate and narrative- the massacre of our people all over Nigeria. Now we have learned the lessons from the mistakes learned in '67...I'm all for the exclusive and undiluted homogeneity of the Igbo nation going forward, the mistakes of the war culminated to all these political rhetorics and identity crisis complex of most Igbo groups in the so called South South.

I have a Facebook group I'm part of, a very popular platform with lots of Anioma and other Igbo groups (we even have a whatsapp group) where we discuss strictly Igbo affairs. Lots of the members are IPOB members, and we don't always agree with their views--especially the clustering of all these minority groups in the Biafran project. You can PM me if you're interested so you can come and see how Aniomas fanatically pledge their Igboness! peoples eyes have opened to reality, and the ship of identity crisis has long sailed off.

Chukwu Gozie AlaIgbo n'ile
Anioma bu Igbo
Igbo by Anioma
Ndewoo nu.

You created this Moniker less than one hour ago just to tell everyone who care to listen that Anioma are Igbos ? I am not saying you are fake but its highly suspicious.

LegendHero:
Why should I play a big brother in the first place? Everyone is equal in Nigeria and all I just did here is to voice out my observation on the issue of discourse.

I never attacked anyone on this thread except the guy that confronted me and I’ve limited my contribution not to derail the thread and here you are telling me I’m creating problem.

However there is one thing you got right, I am a hardcore tribalist and I wear it upon me like a Medal of Honor.

I am a tribalist against any set of people that sought to abuse or provoke the Yorubas on here and I’ve made it a duty to respond to those that’s worth responding to either in a civil or abusive way.

Lastly, everyone is a tribalist in Nigeria. We are just condoning each other for the mean time. This thread itself is about tribal differences and how each of the tribes are trying to lay down their argument on the issue of discourse.

Note: Living abroad has nothing to do with this thread bro. Pay attention!

However, being a tribalist doesnt make you a smart debater. Tribalism is tool for an unrefined and unintelligent man. Pazienza is pro Igbo but not a tribalist. Tribalism is for dregs like agbero people in the street screaming omo Igbo oshi...you get it.

However, I applaud your courage to reveal who you are...internet never forgets

Ofunwa111:
I chose to start that way. Now read through Efe2real's last post which you commented on and claimed he was talking rubbish. Aren't you guilty of what he wrote about ? If you can't see it I will show you. "Let's not forget about the Aniomas that are referred to as fake Igbos already. "Imagine an Ugochukwu from Anambra is referring to an Ugochukwu from Delta State as fake Igbo. SMH" Why doubt Nwannyi Ogwashi ? Why question the igboness of the Western Igbos ? Why question and speak ill of the Western Igbos ? We both know where the majority of the deniers are in Anioma and it's definitely not Aniocha/Oshimili. Why validate what the likes of Efe2real and the rest think or believe ? Nwanne, biko this is 2020, sometimes it's best one stays quiet and watch things unfold or better still give matured answers if you have to write. Daalu.

Again , I dont care where you come from but you lack manners, etiquette. Learn the rules of communication, firstly. In addition to that , your comprehension skills are very poor.

LegendHero:
Nope. I’ve never thought about them that way.

Then , why are you here trying to play a big brother ? Why dont you leave these intelligent set of people to argue their case..nobi them open the thread ? Clearly , you are here to join forces with them to attack and maybe create more problems. What kind of a man are you ? And you claim to live abroad ? You appear like a trashy tribalist!

Emilokoiyawon:
Oponu. You see any Yorubas following those two fools? Meanwhile the lots of you are following that charlatan who pretends to be the voice of ChukwuOkikeAbiama. Tufiakwa! Anyway, it is our jobs as omoluabis to make sure that Igbos are okay. God placed us here for that purpose. And I for one will not standby while Igbos are made a laughing stock. Shame on you and Mazi Kanu.

Not so fast. Oluwo defiled a 13 yrs old on his matrimonial bed yet not a single Yoruba known condemned him. His ex wife said the kabiesi cant be questioned and you had the effrontery to speak about Igbo. Now , who wears the shame like a robe ?

The Oba of Lagos subbed and disrespected your "imperial majesty" Ooni of Ife yet Tinubu is still the former's best friend including Fashola. You people are shameless. Contrary to your claims, no serious and realistic Igbo man takes Nnamdi Kanu seriously. Most of his followers are largely drown from youths who are frustrated and fed up with the state of the nation, albeit a little ignorant.

So, take your concerns back to your Obas and political leaders and teach them how not to behave like a rabid dog and ill bred children.

LegendHero:
Then let the South South group speak for themselves.

I have as much right to contribute to this just as much as you do because we are both not from the SS.

So shut your mouth and stop mentioning me!

Maybe your great grandfathers did the Yoruba any favor for you to start calling me an ingrate. Do I owe any of your Igbo ancestors any favor in the first place?

Did you for one second thought people from the south south tribes were inferior , unintelligent , weak and are pushovers?

Emilokoiyawon:
Awon okoros just dey yeye demselves all over Nairaland. All because of attache by force to SSners. Keep disgracing yourselves all over the internet - let the whole world see your unclothedness in public. Awon oniranu. Yorubas were place in West Africa by God to teach Igbos how to behave.

You can insult me all you want. It won't stop me from making my Igbo gf cum all over herself tonight - she is not like your miserable IPOB souls on this forum. She is educated. Smart. Enlightened. Beautiful and above all she knows that Mazi Kanu is a scam. Kwantinue.

Lol...go sleep. Why dont you go start with Oluwo of Iwo and Akiolu of Lagos and teach them how to behave. At least, Nnamdi Kanu has a clear goal. Abeg , go hide

YungMillionaire:
Shuu I tire o! How many times do we have to tell them we are not Biafrans before they get it? Some of them think calling us Afonja, Yoruba, Fulani etc. will make us back down. We ain't backing down. Let them keep disgracing themselves.

Common, stop behaving like a little girl and have some sensible conversation that could hatch some great ideas. Nobody is forcing you and Nnamdi Kanu doesnt speak for Igbo and will never be an Igbo leader. I am very sure you read Pazienza's submissions to this topic and most of us stand with his position. We do NOTA want non Igbo in an our affairs and again Nnamdi Kanu doesnt speak for the Igbo nation.

Before now , I would think referendum is not a bad idea. I thought it could be a useful tool to assess the mind of people of Old Eastern region people and see where they truly stand with us, but as we proceed with this conversation it seem obvious they don't even want to sit down and talk with us. But, its all good and dandy. I wish them the very best.

However, the only place I have problem with some of these people is when they make it look like this desired country of ours will fail just because we are alone....now , that really ignorant....like super ignorant. But , I have come to learn something. The issue isnt about Biafra having little resources or short on ideas, rather it is people like you who are jealous of our courage to leave to extent of mocking and wishing us failure...that is a testament of a weak people!

Ofunwa111:
How are you guys sure Nwanyiogwashi is not a south easterner impersonating a western Igbo ? Mind you , I am not saying she is not from there but hardly would you see a western Igbo who is very proud Igbo. Most of them are lily livered and even hate Ndigbo more than an average south south minority. They cant be trusted!






Idenna aka Odenigbo Aroli, I put it to you today that you are still a kid in your reasoning and utterances. Learn from Pazienza. For your information, abum nwa NRI.

Nwokem, you are disrespectful. You can't open a conversation with an insult.

efe2real:
This thread is really hilarious. It shows Nairaland is different from reality. The question I keep asking myself is that how come a tribe that you can find in every nook and cranny in this country does not know other tribes opinion about them? Anybody that have stayed in Benin, Warri, Yenegoa, and Portharcourt will know that the non-igbo speaking tribes in these states do not want to have anything to do with Biafra. But one IPOB member in Abia thinks otherwise because he thinks life starts and ends on Nairaland. Even, most of the igbo-speaking are yet to accept that they are even Igbos.

The next card that IPOB is playing is that the tribes in the South South or Niger Delta are not united. Sadly, they are right, but everything is all about negotiation and compromise. Even the so-called Igbos are not even united. Of course, anyone that has stayed in Igbo land knows Ebonyi people are the rags used to clean the ground in the South East. Most even view them as inferior Igbos or denied them as Igbos. What about the Enugu (in particular Nsukka) igbos that are viewed as 'wawa' Igbos. Of course, an anambra man will view himself as a superior Igbo compared to others. Let's not forget about the aniomas that are referred to as fake Igbos already. Imagine an ugochukwu from Anambra is referring to an Ugochukwu from Delta State as fake Igbo. SMH. But, you will see Igbos in Nairaland painting themselves like they all love themselves like saimese twins. No one should deceive anyone on Nairaland that the Igbos are united and loved themselves so much. Most of us have stayed in the East before, so we know what's up over there.

One thing people should realise is the Igbos are not different from the Hausas and Yorubas. In fact, they are even worse because of their greediness and cunny way of life. As far as I am concerned, all this Biafra agitation is just a smokescreen to control the resources of the tribes in the South South region all by themselves. Biafra with the tribes of the Niger Delta will be Nigeria all over again, but this time the Igbos will be in exactly the position they have always dreamt of: the sole controller of the resources of the Niger Delta. Most of us can see through their deceits.

I don't have any issue with Biafra as long they go with their Igbo-speaking brothers (those that want to follow them anyway). The non-igbo speaking tribes in the region will decide their fate themselves (that is even if Nigeria should stop co-existing). And personally, I think Niger Delta republic is the best bet for the tribes in the region. There, the tribes can practice true federalism and state should be created along ethnic lines and be in total control of their resources and the center should be made weak. Then, l, as an Urhobo man will know who to hold responsible when things go bad in my state. Of course, it will not be the president because I don't have business with him. Well it is just an opinion that can be fine-tuned and worked on. But Niger Delta as a country can co-exist peacefully and successfully. Biafra is a no no. I believe nobody from the south south wants Nigeria Again Part 2 to happen in Biafra except the Igbos, of course.

You wrote bunch of stuff but you didn't make any sense.

I put it to you like this; you would still have deep hate for the Igbo even if we didn't involve you....it's hate spurned out of jealousy

How are you guys sure Nwanyiogwashi is not a south easterner impersonating a western Igbo ? Mind you , I am not saying she is not from there but hardly would you see a western Igbo who is very proud Igbo. Most of them are lily livered and even hate Ndigbo more than an average south south minority. They cant be trusted!

Ndigbo, you guys are rejecting this statistics that put your region on the same level with NW and NE, but you on the other hand accepted some statistical study that portrayed your region in good light. This single act shows how hypocritical and a bad loser you are.

What did you think your governors have done so exceptionally well that others haven't. From the onset , the south south and south west had good start up with a lot of advantages over you. Over 70% of your budgets still go to recurrent expenditures....salary , bonus , kitchen budget , security vote.

Igbo land is not blessed with expansive land mass , we dont have coast line , our soil is not as arable as some of our neighbors, we dont have crude oil in abundance.....but what do we have ? Human capital. Have we put them in good use ? No.

Please, stop crying over NBS reports and roll up your sleeves. A good example of wrong priority is erecting gigantic edifices in the name of markets, bridges like you have in Ebonyi while your masses are dying of hunger. Like Ehonyi

The responses from our Nigeriian brothers is funny. You guys really want Igbo to fail

gregyboy:
We how the name came


But today it is used to refer to ethnicity........

And what he meant by anioma was the areas influenced by benin and igbo culture

This is like a defeated downtrodden man , who doesn't want to accept his position, yet , everyone can see the picture. You Bini people are sad and pathetic !

Thread of jokers

Full of hateful sycophants...lol

AreaFada2:
Dude, forget that guy. You will notice that Edo people like to argue and discuss matters in a mature and civil way. Others throw insults anyhow. Of course after their insults, one is forced to reply at times. But do not do rofo rofo mud fight with them. Their frustration is big.
Because modern Nigeria has brainwashed them and promoted tribalism especially since the civil war, they cannot be objective.

The reason we are so welcoming and civil is that we straddle between East and West. We have been exposed to both sides and it's highly welcoming of all people in Edo. We had Igbo & Yoruba at both ends of the empire.

But it's not same to that level in East and West. But people quote Lagos as tolerant. Lagos had to be. Because it was molded by various influences including Benin.

There is nothing civil about a land grabber...its tantamount to thieving. You want to reap where you didnt plant. Because you figure the Biafran wa had dealt a blow to the Igbo consciousness and suddenly you thought you could sneak in and grab land from a disenfranchised people. You Bini people are the worst.

Juliusmalema:
There is no mixtures in Anioma an acronym of I977 or so.

Stop trying to force your lies on others. Where are the binis from?

They fell from sky to their present location? Very small village with few local government looking at Igbo to drag in mess of history?


Who knows Bini bikonu? Infact this argument is even worthless of it all.

Not only Edo mixture but Yoruba mixture.
People ruled by Yoruba and culturally Yoruba are looking for Igbos to rope.

Abeg Igbos and Bini are different people. if you are looking for cultural and historical links meet Yorubas.

The fact that they have many similarities with Yoruba and also the fact that they are relatively very little in numbers point to a more recent origin and the only group we could think of based on traditions are the much larger and influential Yoruba. Think deeply about this, what is the likely number of Bini people in the 1500s ? probably not up to 1000 heads yet they want to rope a very powerful and fearless western Igbo who equally out number them into their depleted camp. These guys have been ignored for too long with their weak revisionists fairy tales and they are beginning to think they have a chance.

And , did you observe how half smart they are; initially , they claimed Anioma was founded by Bini migrants but as we slap and punch them with undeniable facts they are now singing new tunes....oh , Anioma is "mixed" with Igbo and Edo. Heck no, Igala has more stakes in Anioma than the Bini.

This land grabbing started after their new Oba with hot blood was crowned but we will see how the far the pit bull will go with punching his head against a metal wall....

maestroferddi:
Even the Zulus will dobaale for the Igbos if we are sharing the same national space.

The Igboman is a tough act to follow. His entrepreneurial skills should be studied as a course in Nigeria universities.

We measure against the Germans, the Chinese and the Japanese...

Nnaa , I understand Igbo people are very hardworking and industrious but some of you boast too much and there is no need for that.

Probz:
That’s because Enuani people are the only indisputably Igbo clan in Anioma. You have to distinguish between Ika-Ukwuani (‘Bendel’) and Enuani (Igbo proper).

No, why dont you try Proudly Igbo Proudly Anioma group on Facebook then come back and talk to us. You think your wish has been fulfilled which was to disintegrate Igbo tribes but sorry it wont work. 90% of Ukwuani towns were founded by south eastern Igbo and western Igbo settlements.....You wicked and hateful Bini will never see success. Your evil wish for us will return to you ten folds

Chibossboi:
Bro
To b sincere,I have no business with Biafra,go the south east u will still find a great number of individual who do not believe in the actualization of biafra.
Though even if Biafra should b actuallized,and my region is added I have no problem with that.
And even if it's not added,still got no problem with that.

Nnamdi Kanu irritates most Igbo with his Biafra agenda including me. But , what these our Bini neighbor want from western Igbo is to denounce Igbo and pledge allegiance to one man without any tangible human substance in Bini , in the person of Oba Eheneden...

samuk:
No one is asking you to have a say in Biafra, rather you are being told Biafra have no say in Anioma, those that wants to be Biafrans can cross over.

Its not your place to speak on this matter. If I were you I would be more concerned with Bini dying language.

gregyboy:
Utomi is a typical edo name


I have not seen Anioma claiming igbo neither have they claim edo they are anioma mixture of both.....
Your ego may sink you soon if you always debunk the truth.......


Yes he is fascinated because that was is ancestoral root,


The fact is anioma is mixture of both edo and igbos


Sames the eastern igbo are mixture of igbo and igala


You can quote me without insult dont bring your emotions along while quoting me next time
I wont be replying you any further i will just press the report button
Let's be civil pls

He said he is Igbo. He speaks Igbo , married Igbo wife had Igbo children and dine with us. I will describe your character accordingly; if you behave ffoolishly then you are ffoolish.

Show me traditions that point to Bini roots of Onicha people. I am waiting