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[quote author=Empiree post=31306126][/quote]Nope ur post didnt |
Empiree:Please feel free to create and ask questions about christianity. . Other muslims are not so lucky to have access to the truth. Ask and learn and renounce islam. |
9jaforlife:I hope u know what the songs of solomon is? |
nortcentrallord:U have a good theory about what appeared to Mohammed. . If u care to know more then read this https://www.nairaland.com/2168936/non-muslims-only-prophet-demon-possessed/4#31312335 |
9jaforlife:Stop mentioning me everywhere.. |
Empiree:Please which bishop has done this...however I have read cases of imams beheading their wives and sexually assaulting kids as well as a recent case in Nigeria where a muslim imam murdered and ate body parts of his friend.. |
9jaforlife:Dont edit my quotes please.. |
9jaforlife:Lol.. this is disgusting. . We christains know that false prophets have gone into the world. . 1 John 4:1 beloved,believe not every spirit,but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets has gone into the world. Matthew 7:15-20,“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. unfortunately people who don't read the bible will fall victim. Even tho Mohammed approves of polygamy (legalzed adultery) and sex with sex slaves ...it is only right to say Mohammed would not have approved of this especially if the man is married.. if a muslim does this that the pastor did he has to be stoned to death for adultery. . |
Empiree:Empiree I am happy that u now think for yourself..I tot u will run and copy and paste nonsense from Islamic sites...this is a good point..I won't bother to cross check ur translations hoping u won't use al taqiyyah. . However u fail to note that Christ came to serve. U Muslims don't understand Christ's incredible humility. . Not that the king james version doesnt use the word serve but clearly acknowledges the sonship of Christ However the other translations updated to our current use of English acknowledges that serve is the most appropriate word and yet they clearly acknowledge the sonship of Christ. . Mathew 20:28 King James Bible Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. International Standard Version That's the way it is with the Son of Man. He did not come to be served, but to serve and to give his life as a ransom for many people." New International Version just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many." New Living Translation For even the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve others and to give his life as a ransom for many." Here are parallel verses from Mark10: 45 King James Bible For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. Holman Christian Standard Bible For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life--a ransom for many." International Standard Version because even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve and to give his life as a ransom for many people." So understand we christains understand that as the son of man he came to serve and he experienced what we experience and conquered. He is also referred to as son of God in dozens of verses..here are 3 examples.. 1 John 5:20 - And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. Luke 1:35 - And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. |
tartar9:Nope ... Islam is heresy and spured by the spirit of the anti christ as I have told u with proof over and over again. . Mohammed is the leader of a death cult who copied stories and practises from the heretical gnostic christain , Judaism and 7th century arab moon god paganism. To leave this death cult u have to be beheaded. .this is islam |
vooks:Lol... no it is not allowed.. muslim men can't be challenged even by non muslim men and according to sharia law a muslim man can NOT be punished for killing a non muslim under any circumstance. |
9jaforlife:Thanks for quoting these verses let those that have eyes see the filth filled in ur quran...remember that their are over 100 verses commanding u Muslims to fight people simply because they don't believe in Mohammed and his moon god. |
Orikinla:Very true |
Empiree:Create the topics.. we shall discuss ur issues and misunderstandings.. |
Ahmadjr:The ill treatment of women is approved in Islam The Qur'an advocates the beating of wives who are perceived to be misbehaving. Qur'an - 4:34 Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allâh has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient (to Allâh and to their husbands), and guard in the husband's absence what Allâh orders them to guard (e.g. their chastity, their husband's property, etc.). As to those women on whose part you see ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful), but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allâh is Ever Most High, Most Great. Before u start singing this is misinterpretion let's look at how others ttanslated it Eg ALIM CDRom translations Asad –beat, Malik- beat Pickthall –scourge Ali- beat USC site Yusufali –beat Pichthall –scourge Shakir –beat The free Saudi versionof the Koran also has BEAT Robert Spencer also includes these : Al-Hilali/Khan: “(and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful)” Sher Ali: “and chastise them” Khalifa: “then you may (as a last alternative) beat them” Arberry: “and beat them” Rodwell: “and scourge them” Sale: “and chastise them” Daryabadi: "and beat them" Pickthall, Yusuf Ali, Al-Hilali/Khan, Malik, Shakir, Sher Ali, Khalifa, Daryabadi and Asad are Muslims. Are their translations all "incorrect and offensive"? (reference) Note: chastise means punish, thrash, inflict corporal punishment and scourge means whip, lash etc (Encyclopedic World Dictionary 1971, The Australian concise Oxford Dictionary 1987). |
Empiree:I am not going to waste time correcting u again but I want to draw ur attention to the difference in numbers Catholic 73 and Sola scriptural adherents 66..this difference is found in the old testament books and not the new testament. . Both Catholic and protestant agree on the books of the new testament which is 27.. we christains are under the new convent as I often remind u Muslims. .Christ's Gospel isfound in the NT... Again u pointed out that pastorkun and co doesn't believe in the trinity..I have already commented on this..being a christain means accepting Christ ..be baptised and fellow Christ's teachings. Love thy neighbor, etc. .every other thing is peripheral. . Have I every told u that shi'a or ahmediyya do this and that and u sunnis should see that as a reason to renounce ur believe/sunni doctrine. Hope u see the analogy... it's bad logic .. If u say my statement agrees with ur quran then I won't be wasting more time with u..U clearly took the comment out of context... I clearly said ur quran is WRONG IN THE WORDSHIP OF MUHAMMAD'S MOON GOD... |
[quote author=Empiree post=31306955][/quote]U are always quick to say u win arguments and the other is defeated. .lol..ur childishness is amusing. . Anyway I want to remind u that the quran says only one god deserve worship.. yes one God deserves worship but it is YHWH...God the Father, son and his holy pirit... not mohammeds god of the quran which contradicts himself and the teachings of the bible So u see.. on the surface I agree but in principle ur quran is wrong.. Yes people have tried to deliberately mistranslated the bible I made that clear eg the JH. .but they will always fail..the Qur'an has also tried to decieve christains in a similar way and has failed for centuries. . Yes there are good kiddie versions of the bible that uses pictures and language that makes it easy for kids to understand the bible message. Unlike the quran u Muslims force ur kids to recite in 7th century classical arabic which few muslims understand on any level.. And finally..yes I recommend reading the Bible in Catholic and protestant versions ie good news and KJV. . And finally notice christains don't kill each other for these disagreements in translations or doctrine unlike u Muslims who butcher each other for trivialities. Peace. |
Empiree:Its translations ...the different versions are translations. .it's similar to the different translations u have of the quran. Eg. Pickthall, Yusuf Ali, Al-Hilali/Khan, Malik, Shakir, Sher Ali, Khalifa, Daryabadi, Asad etc But there is a difference. .Read on.. I would always suggest people go for the KJV and good news versions. . Learn everything that is authentically translated . It is important to note that Christianity is also attacked from bible versions ... for example the heretical Jehovah witness have their translation where they deliberately distort the translation. .I have seen this myself. . Children and teen versions make the bible more captivating for kids as it contains pics and imagery etc.. A lot of translations are unnecessary but some are neccessary since the Eglish language changes with time eg.. we used to use words like ye, thou, thus, thy, thee but these aren't used any more.. |
Rilwayne001:Malvisguy pointed out that , " The Bible was written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit by over 40 different authors from all walks of life: shepherds, farmers, tent-makers, physicians, fishermen, priests, philosophers and kings. Despite these differences in occupation and the span of years it took to write it, the Bible is an extremely cohesive and unified book." In contrast The quran is recited by one author Mohammed aka the fraud ...and yet it is filled with scientific fallacies , false prophesies, historical errors, contradictions and abrogation. . Infact this should be the subject of my next topic... |
BeeBeeOoh:The news report is from India and Pakistan and not nigeria.. and isn't it treason to call for the disintegration of one's country.. |
Muslim Man Stabs Wife 15 Times for Wanting to Learn English . . . in Great Britain Here's a fact that our leaders just can't get their minds around: Beliefs have consequences. We're told not to question the beliefs of Muslims, and that we're racists if we do. But when a man believes what Allah and Muhammad say about women, there is a significant danger of abuse. If we ignore this danger, aren't we saying that Muslim women don't matter? Nazakat Ali, 30 has been jailed for 14 years for attempted murder after stabbing his 27-year-old wife Shahzana Kausar 15 times during an argument A domineering husband tried to murder his wife by stabbing her 15 times after she said she wanted to take up English lessons. Nazakat Ali, 30, stabbed his 27-year old partner Shahzana Kausar during a row at their home in Rochdale, Greater Manchester, after she made it clear she wanted to enrol at college to study English. Manchester Crown Court heard how he grabbed a knife and, in front of his own mother, stabbed his wife more than a dozen times as he refused to accept that she wanted to gain a 'degree of independence'. Following the attack on September 29 last year, Ali fled the scene and Ms Kausar was left lying in a pool of the blood on the floor. She was later flown to hospital where doctors carried out two emergency operations to heal stab wounds to her neck, collarbone, abdomen, ribs and a severed artery which caused her to lose one third of her body's blood. Ali has now pleaded guilty to attempted murder and has been jailed for 14 years by the judge who called him a 'dangerous man'. The court heard how the incident unfolded after Ms Kausar returned home from the Jobcentre and told her husband that she had been advised to enrol at college to improve her English. He told his mother, who was living with the couple at the property, that he was not going to allow his wife to join the course, and an argument ensued. The couple had known each other for 16 years and married in Pakistan in 2005 before moving to the UK together in 2008. Mark Kellet, prosecuting, said: 'When the defendant and Shahzana were upstairs in their bedroom, he became angry and started shouting and slapped her across the head. She asked for her mobile phone so she could contact her sister or the police, but he refused to return it. 'She left the house to walk to her sister's address but was followed by the defendant. She asked for help from a bystander but the defendant apologised and they returned home. Once they had returned home they sat in the kitchen with the defendant's mother. 'Shahzana told the defendant if he were to behave in a similar manner again, she would leave him. 'He became angry and punched her, knocking her to the floor. He picked up a knife from a kitchen drawer and repeatedly stabbed her. 'She described it as "the way he stabbed me, it was like dying". She begged him to stop, which he did, before running from the house.' Ali's mother provided a statement to the court which said the pair had been abusive towards each other and Ali had stabbed his wife when she ran at him. When Ms Kausar was taken to hospital, X-rays revealed she had blood within her chest, which had to be drained, and that she was bleeding from an artery. She also had further stab wounds to her liver, colon and pancreas. She has since started to recover from her injuries but is still undergoing surgical treatment and has a constant pain in her left shoulder. She said the incident had changed her life significantly and that she had even even contemplated self-harm as a result of the attack. The court heard how Ali handed himself in to police the day after the attack. The judge was also told how he was convicted in 2009 for his part in a burglary in which he and an accomplice forced their way into a family home, gagged a 40-year-old woman and threatened her and her baby with a screwdriver. Ian Harris, defending, said: 'His family have told me that when they visited the defendant he has been in tears when he has discussed what he did. 'A letter he has written may be starting to point towards maturity which clearly hasn't been demonstrated hitherto. He has set out how deeply sorry and remorseful he is for his actions towards his wife and family. (AL TAQIYYA. )Passing sentence, Judge David Stockdale QC told Ali: 'There was an argument between you, triggered, it seems, by her express wish to attend a college course to improve her English. 'That wish was, in my judgement, a wish for a degree of independence on her part, which you would not tolerate. 'Your desire to dominate and control her, it seems to me, lies at the heart of the dreadful events which were to follow. 'The attack was sustained and repeated. There was extensive life-threatening internal injuries. You took a lethal bladed weapon and used it repeatedly on a defenceless woman - your own wife in her own home. 'You are, in my judgement, a dangerous man. I am unhesitatingly of the opinion there is a significant risk of serious harm from future offences committed by you.' Following the sentencing, detective sergeant Louise Ashurst described the attempted murder as 'one of the most brutal and horrific attacks I have experienced as a detective.' She said: 'The injuries she suffered were so severe that the first officer on the scene thought she was dead, her defensive injuries showed that he stabbed her with such force that the knife went right through her hand, breaking her forefinger. 'It was only after the officer felt for her pulse, that he realised she was still alive and even then it was touch and go, with the victim undergoing life-threatening surgery and several harrowing weeks in intensive care. 'But the victim was strong and brave, and I hope this sentence goes some way to helping her overcome what has happened. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2975373/Domineering-Pakistani-immigrant-husband-tried-murder-wife-stabbing-15-times-wanted-English-lessons.html |
SRINAGAR (Reuters) - An insurgency in the Indian-held region of Kashmir is increasingly dependent on homegrown, educated fighters with the highest number of local youth joining in two decades, according to Indian army data seen on Tuesday. The trend represents a new threat in the region where Muslim separatists have been fighting Indian forces since 1989. At least 70 young Kashmiris joined the insurgency in the last year, army records showed, with most joining the banned group Lashkar-e-Taiba, which was accused of carrying out attacks on the Indian city of Mumbai in 2008. At least 14 of them have been killed, the army said."Youth joining the militancy is disturbing," Subrata Saha, the head of Indian army in Kashmir, said recently. "If educated youth are joining, it is more disturbing. It is certainly is a cause of concern for us." Two of the new recruits have doctorates and eight were post graduates, the army data showed. Kashmir has been divided between India and Pakistan since a war after independence from Britain in 1947. The nuclear-armed neighbours have fought two of their three wars over the territory. India accuses Pakistan of training and arming the rebels in the portion of Kashmir it controls and sending them to the Indian side. Pakistan denies that. For years militant groups had struggled to recruit fighters from Indian Kashmir, forcing them to rely on Pakistan-based fighters, the officer said. To maintain control, the Indian army has a massive military presence in its northernmost and only Muslim-majority state famed for its snow-capped mountains and fertile valleys. The trend of homegrown fighters joining the militancy started in 2010 after a summer of unrest when 112 people were killed in clashes between police and protesters, according to a senior army officer. The decade before that had seen a lull in militancy, and numbers are still low compared with the 1990s.With the Indian army stepping up patrols on the border fewer Pakistani fighters have been able to cross in, forcing militant groups to recruit local youth, the officer said. http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKKBN0LS1A220150224?irpc=932 |
MillionDollars:According to what I have heard the Hebrew word used was murder not kill. Thou shall not murder. Not Every killing is a sin same as NOT every sex is adultery. U have every right to defend urself and fight the good fight. |
johnydon22:Have u joined the Muslims in the use of deceptive al Taqiyya. U are an atheist remember? |
Islam is all about fighting non muslims and taking slaves. . Lesser jihad (1) “Fighting is prescribed for you” (Koran 2:216); (2) “Slay them wherever you find them” (Koran 4:89); (3) “Fight the idolators utterly” (Koran 9:36); Here are teachings that encourage savage behaviour of Muslims. Qur’an 8:12— Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): “I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.” Qur’an 9:73—O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.” Quran 2:193. "And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah, but if they desist, then there should be no hostility except against the oppressors." Quran 8:39. "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do." Qur'an (9:29)-"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Sura 9:5. "When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them." Bukhari 2:24: Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah." |
malvisguy212:Excellent post.. maybe this should be a topic so as to educate these muslims who claim the bible is corrupted and yet fail to show us the uncorrupted one |
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