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9jaforlife:
Ifeann aka parisbookaddict aka P*rostitute, you're not just a hypocritical liar, you're shameless and void of dignity. It's one thing that you're obsessed with sex, but must you display your shameless fantasy in details for all to see?? What's that nonsense in the bold part of your post? And you're supposed to be a lady??

The determination to tarnish the image of the Prophet (peace be on him) has ruined you! You're just a patethic excuse of a woman. Shameless goat!

Why would u call me a prostit.ute...

Wow u have hurt my feelings.. lol...

Anyway I just posted information contained in ur hadith about how Mohammed ur prophet enjoyed baby aisha...I would say molested aisha but ur hadith says enjoyed... do u have amnesia ..should I vote the passages...

9jaforlife:


It's no longer Muslims, now it's Protestants an Catholics!! Congratulations, your madness is gaining exponential increase!!

Unlike u I am unbiased and not a religious bigot. .. .but I really detest Islam..ewwwww ur quran is filthy. .I know because Unlike u who read it with ur esoteric islamic imam guided lenses(that is if u read it at all) I read the passages with objectivity. .

johnydon22:
Thanks for the correction...

I am sure i know far more than you can ever think of knowing about christianity.. but let me not bring myself that low ... Am done with you.

Lol.. I will be interested in seeing evidence for this ur knowledge about christainity. .
Making statements that are not evidence based Says a lot about you. ..

OK. .i am done with u..now run along and stop pretending to be the well studied "agonostic atheist humanist" u portray urself as. Come to think of it u are the only person I know that calls himself an agnostic atheist. ...and if u attack christianity I will be there to call u to order as I do to the muslims. ..

Emusan:
Your case is pathetic, does the verse talk about rape? That's the question.



See broad day LIE @bolded part, please show me where you posted SONGS OF Solomon

Yet you said below that I was the one who referred you to Songs of Solomon and you corrected me that your quote is from Judges not Songs of Solomon.



What do I need to say again after reading this your open day light lies which is evident that you're just typing what you've been programmed to do.

Did I refer you to Songs of Solomon or I simply tell you that the verse you quoted was a SONG SANG BY DEBORAH AND BARAK?

Muslims always prove to us that Qur'an has wiped away their brains and replaced it with confusions and lies.

Get life man!

Lol..9jaforlife Is frustrated and desperate. .

For u to be mentioned along with me means u are probably giving muslims headache with the truth.
Peace.

9jaforlife:
Bible Condones Rape

Deutronomy 20:10-14
10When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. 11If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. 12If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. 13When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. 14 As for THE WOMEN, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies.


Judges 31:7-18
7They fought against Midian, as the Lord commanded Moses, and killed every man. 8Among their victims were Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur and Reba—the five kings of Midian. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. 9The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. 10They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps. 11They took all the plunder and spoils, including the people and animals, 12and brought the captives, spoils and plunder to Moses and Eleazar the priest and the Israelite assembly at their camp on the plains of Moab, by the Jordan across from Jericho.
13Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. 14Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle.

15“Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16“They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. 17Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

Cc: Emusan, Ifeann aka parisbookaddict

I have explained these to u in the past.. u refuse to see it without the lens of islam...I will leave u with this verse

King James Bible Titus 1:15
Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

johnydon22:
Very good..we are clear on it..

@bolded as fallacious and rediculous as it is, i will just ignore it...

I think u meant ridiculous... anyway Look johnydon22 it's okay..when u have done extensive studying on these issues u will be taken serious.,

Peace. .

johnydon22:
Please i beg you, keep my name out of your posts, make your points but don't bring me into it... please... Even if i turned atheistic yesterday its none of your business... stop this your unwarranted poke nosing.... Just keep it between you and your fellow muslim brethren.

I mentioned to him that i just emancipated myself from all this religious shiit and christianity cus it's all fraud and mythical fabrications.. i made my own point to the op and did not mention or drag you into it, please next time make your points without dragging or mentioning me in it...

Oh now u getting worked up ... I had to make it clear to him that u are new to atheism. .so he doesn't get the impression u have done much studying on these issues...

My apologies if u feel offended... I won't mention u in future..

justlove91:
ARE YOU A MUSLIM? Empire asked me yesterday.
I was born into a moderate Muslim family. When I was younger, my mum used to tell me that if I don't pray (kirun) she wouldn't give me food(which I like so much), she knows my weak point (that is why they're called mothers) so basically then, I was being forced to observe prayers.
When I was around 14, I went to one of my Muslim friend's house and they were watching this video by an Alfa about the punishment in hell. The explicit description of hell was so horrifying to my innocent mind and I vowed from that day to observe my prayers to avoid this gruesome place called hell.
I then became a very practicing Muslim even more than my parents that they're even sometimes worried about me. In my quest to move more closer to God, I joined a sect called Sufism (WIRIDI) under the umbrella of Maolana Sheik Ibrahim Niyas (TIJANIYAT). Because of this I do LASIMI in my morning and 4pm prayers, at 7pm WASIFAT and every friday evening goes to KUBURA. I was also given prayers (ASKARU) by my WASILAT Sheik Ismail which I usually wake up to do every night (TAJUUD), I make sure I finished reading at least one round of koran during ramadan(am a slow reader). Because of all these, I was much respected by my family and friends and they usually called me Alfa.
Then one day, I just felt like typing "Fallibility of the Koran" on the Google search, what I saw shocked me to my bones, I read so many articles on www.wikiislam.net www.alisina.org read debates on www.faithfreedom.org which Ali Sina(owner of the website, an ex muslim) had with muslim apologists etc. The Koran I so much revere is now being painted in this grotesque way.
To mitigate my shock and console myself, I searched for refutations written by Muslim apologists, but I was not satisfied with them, the errors are just overwhelming and plane. Don't think this period of my life is easy for me, the fear of hell was paramount on my mind (don't forget this same fear pushed me to be a practicing Muslim in the first place)I practically went through most of the stages listed here https://www.nairaland.com/2179781/touching-amazing-testimony-ex-muslim (maybe the reason I liked the testimony).
I usually console myself with the thought that their must be rational explanations for all the errors and atrocities committed by Mohammed but alas! their was none(at least that make sense to me, you can sense Al Taqiyah and twisting of verses everywhere). I even threw some of my questions to my sheik and fellow muridi but they always want to interpret the Koran in esoteric ways (BATINI), so I gave up on them.
Summarily, I finally gathered the courage to acknowledge the fact that Mohammed WROTE THE KORAN(Mohammed = Allah ), no Gabriel bringing verses, Koran was and remains figment of Mohammed's imagination, he's depiction and conception of God.
But the problem remains MY PARENT MUSTN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS, at least 4 now. So to my parents and friends am still to this very moment 07/03/2015 an ALFA, but i must say I left sufism also since it is claimed to be built on koranic injunctions, and the bitter truth is KORAN IS A FRAUD (Oro pesi je!).
I'm a 300L student now, so can't wait to graduate, get a job, be independent of anyone then give everyone the shock of their life.
So when you hear me say am in mosque, I have no other choice, I have to pray (kirun), fast, go to jumat etc at home but in school, am free like a bird. So, empire to answer your question: am still a Muslim to my parents and friends but to me an EX MUSLIM.
SO I CAN'T WAIT TO BE FINALLY COMPLETELY FREE(Though free internally but not externally yet).
Their are more of me out theree, that have seen the fallacy and lie Islam is truely is but don't have the means yet to make their apostasy known. Islam is decaying from within watch out for it's fall or do you think I will bring up my children in an Islamic way NEVER!!!!!!!!
Because I want my children to be good and it is IMPOSSIBLE TO BE A GOOD MUSLIM AND AT THE SAME TIME A GOOD PERSON.
To Muslims out their, you just have to look at the evidence everywhere objectively, I know is pretty difficult to have your precious belief shattered, to immediately realise that all the praying, fasting, tajuud, tilawa al quran have all been for nothing, that you wasted your hard earned money when you went for Hajj in Mecca. Some of you are very vigilant and talented at spotting errors and mistakes in other religious books but when the ones in the Koran are presented to you, is like your brain hibernates or something, you can't reason logically again, you can't see. Only a stage of denial can make this possible, take the bold step beyond this and taste what it feels like to be free, to really LIVE!
Will leave you with this quote:
"The mind of a bigot /fanatic is like the Iris of the eyes, the more light you shed on it the more it shrinks"

Let me start by saying I admire ur bravery. . It takes guts. One statement u made readily got me thinking IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BE A GOOD MUSLIM AND AT THE SAME TIME A GOOD PERSON.
I hope u make more posts and keep us updated on ur journey..

It might interest u to know johnydon22 is a newbie to atheism https://www.nairaland.com/1957516/catholics-come-ask-questions-catholic..
^^^^^^^^^^
That's him just in October last year defending his Catholic faith..some of us have walked that skeptic path and left it.

anyway justlove91 before u turn ur back on all religions I invite u to study more about christainity but where do u start.. lots of fake pastors out there and greedy churches ...

Please start with this book written by an ex atheist "mere christainity "..I got the audio tape on YouTube and listen to it..
It discusses several religions atheism theism and of focuses on christainity
. .also get a bible..

Have a nice weekend.

Tartar9 tola9ja rilwanye001 empiree 9jaforlife mrolai yourmain mathematical yazach usermane this is a great read. I invite u to read this.

9jaforlife:
He pretends he's not a Christian to be able to bash Muslims. I asked him about his belief and he ignored the question! How can you say:

I'm an ex- Muslim (not a Muslim)

I'm not a Christian

I'm not an atheist (that makes him a theist, a believer in at least a form of god).... but he just says he belongs to none of these. Is that even possible?

9jaforlife your lack of intelligence is unbelievable. . He could be agnostic, a Hindu buddist etc. justlove91 u should not feel compelled to tell these muslims ur stance or belief.

Peace.

Protestants and Catholics u should read the bible more often and be free from the bondage of men

Women are so ill treated in Islam..

The book of Allah says women are inferior
to men and their husbands have the right
to beat them (Q. 4:34 ),

that women
will go to hell if they are disobedient to
their husbands (Q. 66:10 ).

It also says men
have an advantage over women
(Q. 2:228 ).

It not only denies women
equal right to their inheritance
(Q. 4:11-12 ), it also regards them as
imbeciles and decrees that their
testimony alone is not admissible in court
(Q. 2:282 ). This means that a woman who
is raped cannot accuse her rapist unless
she can produce a male witness, which of
course is a joke. Rapists don't rape in the
presence of witnesses.

But the most
shocking verse is where Allah allows
Muslims To Molest women captured in wars
even if they are married before being
captured (Q. 4:24 ) (Q. 4:3 ). The holy
prophet raped the prettiest women he
captured in his raids on the same day he
killed their husbands and loved ones.



Please go online and read the quran and see all the evil filled in that book.

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9jaforlife:
I never edit your quotes!! I crossed it out or reduced the size. Ifeann aka parisbookaddict pls stop making it look like I changed your words!

Stop editing my post.. make ur comment in a new quote box..
I will keep a record of this to further prove my points of muslim deciet and al taqiyyah

justlove91:
In the mosque right now and chilling. The Imam is telling us about life in the grave, some of the punishments it entails before resurrection. The question that keeps going through my mind is what of those that doesn't have grave? those hunters that got eaten by wild animals, those that were cremated. Then I remembered when government wanted to extend one of the streets in my area, when they told relatives of the owner of graves along the streets to exhume the graves because they don't want to build roads on graves. We saw people opening up graves and bringing out bones, the question now is considering the fact that most of the people buried in these graves are idol worshipers, are these bones begin punished in their respective graves?

Islamic eschatology is irrational. .and mostly illogical. .

Empiree:
stop playing games. You are either muslim or not. In between is hypocrisy. You either go to masjid and learn sincerely or you dont. No way in between. That's two-faced

Why are u always aggressive. .

9jaforlife:
It's a song so admirable in christianity that it found a seat in the bible

Yeah.. it's in no way comparable to the sex adventures of Mohammed in the quran.