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Tufanja:
I dare to disagree:

1. there are church programs on national TV in Europe (just limited broadcast time, minorities have directly proportional broadcast time on national TV, christian/muslim/buddhist broadcasting etc)
2. there is freedom of speech, which counts as much for those mentioning hell fire as those mentioning the opposite
3. you can't get sacked just on the ground you mentioned, its depends very much on the circumstances and the specific context. For instance, as a nurse you might find a patient who wants to pray with you, and if there is time for that and it wont derail your direct general duties, you are definitely allowed to do so if you want
4. a society is not much better because of religion/lack of religion, as you say you are based in the UK you may get some glasses and start looking around at the social problems around you...extreme high rate of teen pregnancies and single mothers despite of full availability of abortion and anticonceptiva, huge problems with alcohol and drugs abuse among the youth despite of laws forbidding teenagers to drink or buy alcoholics, serious spread of STD's despite of free condoms in every toilet, serious levels of domestic violence despite of stricts laws, high number of rapes (while still underreported), suicide rates are impressive despite of availability of professional and often free psychological help, school drop out rates are serious too while good access to high quality education for anyone...and there is a lot of hidden problems and sadness you only see when you work at the backside of the success of a society...because the problems here are more hidden...behind the like-generation there is a society that is absolute as lost as those who are shouting Jesus hell and fire...maybe even more lost.

Kindly give me examples of such National TV channels?

oh dear! its getting worse in Nigeria

vooks:
And a happy new 2016

Same to you

KingEbukasBlog:
Lol ... again brother ifeness cant explain the origin of the annunakis .

And God's origin ? He is eternal - no beginning or end . Not of this material universe but the annunakis have a beginning and of this material universe . So we are obviously talking of different entities .




Can you prove I am corrupt ?

I will not go into lengthy debates on this. I have written loads about them. You are not a vibration of what you want to know. If I did tell you,you will be confused. So I will rather chill and let you enjoy the ignorance.

I never claimed you are corrupt,meant most Nigerian who grew up in that geographical area.

analice107:
so where is the Mesopotemian Gilgamesh now? The Bible is still waxing strong, with all the attempts to still its spread. I really don't care if the Gilgamesh is even in existence and half of the world believes in it. Islam is here, as ridiculously as the koran's claims is, it is still growing. That hasn't changed anything in the Bible.
l keep saying this. these are deities, let us their followers drop everything material like knives, guns and bombs. let's meet in the spiritual realm, there, we will know. spirit talk to spirit. let's see.

The bible is fading in much developed countries. The areas filled with poverty, lack of proper education and exposure are the ones caressing the bible.

The Bible is a fabrication of ancient scrolls.

KingEbukasBlog:
Kai ... brother ifeness ... oya explain the origin of the annunakis



I'm not

You worship(workship) them,you should be more concerned about their origin.

Are you sure you are not corrupt?

KingEbukasBlog:
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How many conspiracy theories turned out to be true ?

Lol ... politics is exciting ... who knows the next person Dansuki shared his national cake with ?

There is free speech here in Nigeria .

Taa... comot here ... is England your country ? And Yes , we are developing . The English kingdom emerged over 1000 yrs ago - they have every right to be well developed

Fact or fiction?; Is the story of bible god who walk in the garden,used humans to mine gold,chased them out when they knew his secret etc is probably a believable story?

Or,is the bible god a spirit hanging in the sky,who now lives in the Christians heart?

I can imagine you will believe the 2nd due to years of brainwash.

Dasuki is only a physical representation of how your society thinks. All of you are corrupt anyway.

Whom are you praying to?

KingEbukasBlog:
True ... I mean I'd ban you for propagating conspiracy theories - very deleterious to be discussed in a public forum .

How about politics , entertainment - these should interest you too

No free speech in your country. Oh I forgot,third world! Well,still developing,always developing.

Your politics make me sad. Entertainment is alright.

Conspiracy theories often end up to be true.

Moezzy:
God help your children o

how?

KingEbukasBlog:
hmmm ... why the lengthy ban ?

but wait ... are the mods aliens who want to stop you from exposing their mission on earth ?

Probably christian mods,who knows. Somehow I just enjoy nairaland,the only way i keep touch with Nigeria. Otherwise I won't know how serious religion is over there.

KingEbukasBlog:
ifeness , continue oo ... say hi to your other accounts 1feness , ifenes , raidness (the female you ) .

The hunt for likes just got real

I don't know who raidness is, others got to much lengthy bans,had to deactivate them. Hunt for likes, who cares about being liked? That's for instagram.

Image123:
Yep, many. You dodged my question.

I did not dodge your question,I am just not interested in looking up the bible online. Bottom line is, the new oni of ife is deluded. He must have been a brainwashed christian kid.

Image123:
So you believe there's no higher king than the Ooni based on what?

Do you know any higher king?

no unity

WOW,thirsty Jesus

Image123:
You say this based on faith?

You cannot know anything by faith. If you believe in a higher king by faith,it means you do not know if there is one,but you are only trusting whomever told you there is a higher king.

tomakint:
A wise King showing RESPECT to a ' HIGHER KING OF KINGS' who also remains his CREATOR. Unfortunately, these clowns will never understand that tradition and culture are entrapments to enslave humanity, this King is a wise man.

There is no higher king.

xreal:
We are Africans.
We are exceptional.
We are Nigerians.

Yes wild creatures indeed.

unphilaz:
This thread is opened up after a thread i created on the existence of the universe from NOTHING. And during the course of the discussion i came to a singular conclusion that NOT all ATHIEST are ATHIEST in the sense of the word but rather some are athiest towards the "GOD CONSCIOUSNESS" but are comfortable with just an intelligent MIND while on the other hand, some are averred to anything CONSCIOUS out there.

So the purpose is to bring this two broad ideas together to see how they reason together from their worldview... please this thread is not for the GOD Theist so please lets just watch them present their reason to convince themselves or otherwise.

On the Intelligent Consciousness, we have 1fesnes (or anyone in this camp) and the inanimate existence will be ... who can i think of... i hope am not wrong... kag (or anyone in this camp).

So to get the ball rolling, Atheist, which divide do you belong and kindly give your reasons....

this is 1feness stand

https://www.nairaland.com/2786110/atheist-how-want-heb-11#40847084

This will be a waste of time.

vooks:
M0ron,
Merry Christmas

You meant your dad

The truth can't be hidden for long can it?

Be warned the Jesus e warriors italo,HCpaul,vooks,Ebuka will shoot you for this! You have dragged their messiah through the mud.

Interesting thread tho. I also heard he may have headed to India at some point too. The illusion of feeding 5,000 men with few loaf of bread says it all.

But do tell me more about is Roman father? I am open minded.

Onyiibazz:
Continous Loop of The Jesus and Satan Character
This is what is going to happen after christians and all the religions that believe in heaven and hellfire would have gone to heaven or hellfire as the case may be. There will arise some other set of people that will rise to challenge God, this men will plan to bring carnality into heaven.
This is how it is going to happen. After so many years of only singing praises and worship in heaven with some discordant harp notes, these men will get bored with the routine and start remembering the various social activities they engaged themselves in while on earth. They will start visualizing the great sex they've had in time past while on earth and the clubbing, partying and even drinks they've had before. Remember that the bible clearly stated that there will be no form of marriage in heaven, so there wont be legal sex. When these people become unable to bear the antisocial lifestyle anymore, they will start thinking of how to introduce alcohol, parties, clubs, churches, cars and even sex. God would obviously get angry by this and try to caution them but they would not listen hence he would cast them away from heaven maybe to Mars or Jupiter this time around to form their kingdom there. After sometime, God would send another Jesus to go redeem them and the loop continues indefinitely!
Who else agrees with me on this? Or am I alone? #ThinkingAloud.

hzpride:
I Gave My Lyf 2 Christ Dec 2013 N I'v Bin Strivin 2 knw God personally since then, But its nt happening... i speak in tongues n dts all... peeps around me do tell me bout their personal encounters n i do feel left out.
is there something else 2 be done 2 make ds happen?

The be yourself, that's the only way. Do anything that excites you. Sex,travels, sing etc

The only language many Nigerians only understand.

Black people! You won't see such in any European countries,those who replaced our brains with this deadly idea.

Take a look at Rio,Brazil. Not far from the Giant Jesus statue is a drug kartel.

You simply applied the laws of attraction; seeing yourself owning one and then it happened! Thoughts led to matter. You need not thank a god for that but yourself for changing your reality. As for those wanting world peace,you can apply the same.

Michealquad:
•As one goes to lower planes of existence of Hell, as the subtle basic Sattva component progressively reduces the environment becomes less conducive to the experience of happiness.

• Within the planes of existence of Hell, there are some ghosts who do certain types of spiritual practice to gain spiritual power. The highest in the hierarchy of ghosts are sorcerers from the seventh plane of existence of Hell. They have immense spiritual power almost equivalent to a Saint at the 90% spiritual level. They control all the other types of ghosts with lesser spiritual power.

• As one goes deeper into the various planes of existence of Hell, i.e. from 1st to 7th, the extent of happiness experienced by the subtle bodies therein goes on decreasing and the extent of unhappiness goes on multiplying. The minimal experience of happiness is also due to being engrossed in memories of past positive events, pleasant memories of wealth in a past life, etc. The experience of unhappiness is due to memories of physical pain and insulting events, memories of unfulfilled desires, e.g. regarding education, house, career, expectation of happiness from children in past life.

• The extent of punishment/pain to be endured in the various planes of existence of Hell and their associated Narak goes on increasing with the subsequent plane of existence of Hell. Also, the period of punishment to be endured in each Narak is in excess compared to the corresponding plane of existence of Hell. If we consider the punishment in first plane of existence of Hell as 100%, then the punishment in the corresponding first Narak region is 50% more, i.e. 150%.


The following table is a description of examples along with the average intensity of happiness and unhappiness we experience in the various planes of existence of Hell.

I do not really think you are a christian though. You have been thinking and searching for answers in other religion . There are no answers in Christianity just rules. What is obvious to me is christian values were borrowed from other existing religion just like you are doing.

Michealquad:
Sub planes of existence of Hell (Narak): Every plane of existence of Hell has a sub-plane known as Narak. For example, the first plane of existence of Hell will have within it a sub-plane that is known as the first Narak. Narak is reserved for the worst ghosts (demons, devils, negative energies, etc.) in Hell. The ghosts (demons, devils, negative energies, etc.) occupying the first Narak face more severe punishment and for a longer duration than those occupying the first plane of existence of Hell.

[s]The diagram below shows the 14 planes of existence in the Universe.[/s]

Hell fire is not a plane or place. However some people can create an illusion of it for themselves,but then they will realize it is as a result of negative teaching and thoughts.

This illustration was given to the ancient/primitive Indians. Just like the ancient Jews,due to their wild nature to act nicely. At this point of our human development we do not need these form of teaching anymore. I think it causes fear.

Michealquad:
The 14 planes of existence in the Universe

There are 14 main planes of existence in the Universe. Seven of them are positive planes of existence and seven are negative planes of existence. The seven negative planes of existence are commonly known as Hell (Pātāl). There are numerous sub-planes within these main planes of existence.

Righteousness (Dharma) is that which accomplishes the 3 tasks of:
Keeping the social system in excellent condition
Bringing about the worldly progress of every living being
Causing progress in the spiritual realm as well.
– Shri Adi Shankaracharya

Seven positive planes of existence: The planes of existence occupied mostly by living persons and subtle bodies doing righteous deeds and engaged in spiritual practice according to the positive path of spiritual practice are known as the seven positive planes of existence or saptalok. By positive path, we mean the orientation of spiritual practice is towards God-realisation, which is the ultimate in spiritual growth.

The Earth plane is the only physical plane of existence in the Universe and is also the first plane of existence in the hierarchy of the positive planes of existence in the Universe.

Seven Negative planes of existence: These are planes of existence occupied mostly by subtle bodies that have done unrighteous deeds and are engaged in spiritual practice according to the negative path. By negative path, we mean the orientation of spiritual practice is towards attaining spiritual power, e.g. supernatural powers. This spiritual power is primarily used to enhance one’s control over others or for negative purposes. Thus all subtle bodies that go to any one of the planes of existence of Hell, by virtue of their evil intentions become ghosts.

All good and well....everyone is a God at the end of the day. Negative and Positive are important to keep balance. Spiritual practices or no spiritual practices,the Soul remains what it is. Negative and Positive experiences are illusion of the mind. Its like playing a role of a bad guy in a movie,which doesn't make you bad in reality. It is only an experience.

Michealquad:
What happens after death?

Spiritual research has shown that man is comprised of the following four basic bodies:

Physical
Mental
Causal or intellectual
Supracausal or subtle ego
The picture below is a diagrammatic representation of what a human being is comprised of.

Physical and non-physical. Apart from the physical you mentioned I think the remaining 3 can be merged into one. Is that not what you call a Soul? And the only reason I am separating it from the Physical is because it is an energy of high vibration.-meaning, it spins at a high frequency and cannot be seen by a much slower object. And Intellect,Ego etc are usually attributes a soul does exhibit based on prefence.

When a person dies the physical body ceases to exist. However, the rest of his existence or consciousness continues. The existence of the person minus the physical body is known as the subtle body (linga-dēha) and it comprises of the mental, causal (intellect) and supracausal (subtle ego) bodies. This subtle body then goes to one of the 13 subtle planes of existence other than the Earth plane.

when a person dies he/she might not immediately know they are dead, and he/she might continue trying to live his/her life for a bit without realizing what has happened (explaining ghosts). It person is always in control until he/she realizes he has shed his physical body. And the planes of existence is unlimited and it is absurd to name just 13!