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How is time not in your side ? You mean marriage ? You don't seem the type who should get married, at least not anytime soon to me. The problem is you live in a society that pushes what it's expects of you down your throat.

Being a Virgin isn't weird, why should it be? You are who you are, because you like every other humans are unique. Sex isn't your passion,otherwise you would have had lots of it from your teenage years. Learn to accept yourself the way you are for now. You don't need to be emotionally depended on others or be married to be happy. This may sound too much from me....but I'm speaking from a parallel universe where marraige is outdated.

" let us make man in our image" clearly shows your God is a myth. The Kingdom of God is a metaphor for your subconscious mind which you need to be in tune with. Do not let anyone deceive you into thinking Jesus is coming in the sky.

He needs a private jet I'm sure

obinna58:
I came across this thread https://www.nairaland.com/3775082/baby-india-born-additional-head
about an incompletely formed baby being born with an extra head, which had no ears and eyes due to being partly developed and the infant also had a third hand, this lead doctors to sugery thereby challenging God's perfect creation, they successfully managed to give the baby a new lease of life after founding errors in God's creation.
To the religionists in the house,
does it mean that doctors were too blind to see God's plan for the baby cos we all know that God has a plan for everyone on earth.
Can we say that in a situation like this doctors are ignorant?
doctor who took part in such act, do they deserve any credit?

Maybe you should begin by giving us an idea of this god first.

Spirit is the purest form of US all. It is pure Energy that cannot be corrupted or suppressed. It is what religion call God, our very original form, that which is unborn, eternal, omnipotent, omnipresence etc. Spirit is the highest form of Energy

The soul is the malleable form of Energy,it is the memory bank of an individual that splits into parallel realities, universes, multiverses......or we can say the Soul is that which experiences Karma as a result of it undergoing reborn in order to get rid of the Ego-Self/our false self. The Soul being a higher level of consciousness controls our Emotions,which includes the ability to love.

OP did not ask about body.....which would have been the solidification of the Soul. Basically we can say Spirit(air)= Soul( liquid)= Body( matter)

dingbang:
and die like chicken ba.. Clap for urself..

Yes you will die but you will plant seeds of courage in the minds of others. You will become the seed of a better world tomorrow. Dying is inevitable, but dying like a coward should be discouraged.

AlvanT:
In your earlier comment you stated that the Reptillians were defeated in thier rebellion against the Annunakis and pushed into "inner earth"...throw more light on the Inner Earth and does it have any connection with the legendary Atlantis?

Hi, it does have connection with Atlantis,but that wasn't the first time. Lumeria ,which like Atlantis was destroyed with chemical weapons. There is an ancient text I read where I saw The people of the inner earth used to be the eyes of the Gods, the original creator gods until they thought they had enough technology to battle them.

In the Koran, there are strange stories about beings that are called the Djinn, who were according to texts, present on Earth before humans. The story tells that at one point Iblis, the leader of the Djinn offended the Gods,was rebellious and was cursed like the serpents in the Garden of Eden becoming Earthbound trapped on Earth for eternity. You can look up that story, it's interesting.

Kulkulkan the Mayan " snake deity" also called Waxaklahun Ubah Kan,meaning " the serpent God" was said to have go to the inner Earth through a secret tunnel which was later called " the under world". Ancient Greeks also made reverence to that word " underworld" a lot surprisingly.

Concerning the Inner Earth, I have this video for you


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JEXRYyQBVA

omobacyprus:
Don't mind those atheists.. If they born them well they should go to Saudi and start talking rubbish

Trust me I will speak out!

dingbang:
When you are in Rome, behave like the romans..

No you speak out and be yourself. That is how to change barbaric societies

sharliz:
At the expense of making the wife n kids unhappy? Dats so unfair

Making others happy while neglecting yourself isn't a good life. He won't be there for her emotionally but financially which is what he is already doing I'm sure. And of course that doesn't stop him from being a great father to his kids. They will grow up to understand how life works.

Marriage is what we have all be taught to be in,not really what we yearn for. The Soul yearns for happiness even when religion and traditional beliefs weighs it down. OP doesn't have to stay in a marriage that doesn't make him happy. Be happy,that's what life is all about. It can be difficult and you might lose a lot but why stay unhappy?

bizme:
It wasn't the Church service of today that made me decide.
It was rather several pieces of disappointment and dashed expectations that forced me to make up my mind today.

Following my conversion years ago, I had spent a substantial part of my youthful life in the service of God. No amount of discouragement from my Dad and peers would slow me down in the pursuit of the love and service of God my Father. At a point I had approached my parents that I was considering opting for pastoral school instead of University admission. I had at the time been offered an admission into one of the leading federal universities in the country. Eventually my dad's voice of reason prevailed and I went to University. In University, I lived and conducted myself as a man whose singular hope and passion was the pursuit of God, roving from villages to villages every week, preaching and pastoring village churches. Away from the demands of my studentship.

But in the real world, the popular promise that God always has my back has been no more than a sale's man's quip which is often far from the reality on ground. I have asked fellow Christians questions, but they have failed to provide me with answers that don't refer me back to the usual call to patience and perseverance. If I do not enjoy God's promises in the time of my youth, what then is the point? What is the point in repetitively making the same requests for years without answer from God?

I consulted widely, reading books and studying other peoples' experiences and I have come to this conclusion: that I am on my own in this world. That God probably finished His part when He created me; that the entirety of my fate and experience will hereafter depend on me and my societal factors. That all the praying and singing and clapping in the church are no more than a desperate attempt for most of us to believe in a God who has got no better job than bailing us out of our miseries...

Well, it has been years now and He hasn't bailed me out. My life, the experiences of it, has not been any better than that of those who have refused to acknowledge God or to serve Him. Henceforth, I'm going to turn my time and attention to more product things than church attendance. My woman isn't going to like this, but I feel like a fraud sitting there in Church today and refusing to say the prayers since all those I had said these past years don't seem to have been answered.

This is no feast for atheists. I don't have enough faith to be one. This is simply my step of courage to step outside profitless religion into personal effort to take my own matters into my own hands. And you don't have to agree with my conclusions, if you look at it carefully you will realize that I have no obligation to live my life based on others' experiences. Just mine.

Moving from one class to another is constant. You stopped going to church because you have successfully desolved that illusion of it as the only way accepted to serve God. That is the thing about Illusions, they serve you until you see the need to get rid of them. The rest of your church members are not in anyway silly....no they ain't , it's just that the wind of reality hasn't hit them yet. I personally think the church is a good thing, a good learning curve for a young soul to grow. They must realise themselves that that is not the ideal way to grow mentally,spiritually,intellectually etc

Now that you have passed that stage, what next? Big question! You must continue to find yourself. You must solve the question of "God". What really is God? Reevaluate what you have been taught in the church about what and who God is. Only you can find this question just the way you noticed that there is more to life than what the church as got to offer. The answer you will eventually get will change your life. There is nothing to fear.

The best way to knowledge is you being your own teacher, making mistakes and learning from them. Listen to no one as they are students themselves.

AlvanT:
Sir does it mean that the Serpentine race was demonized? Does this explain why an average an human has strong phobia for snakes? The so-called Devil is not that bad after all? Fill me!

One of the esoteric meaning of the word " serpent" means knowledge or a carrier of knowledge. It could also mean reincarnation or renewal just as the snake sheds its skin anually. We could see one metaphor used in the bible " to be as wise and serpent" was a way to encourage the embrace of knowledge.

Ancient Egyptian Pharoas were known to have the snake symbol on their foreheads which signified their "Godship" in the sense that they had knowledge, activated third eye/ access to their subconscious mind. The Hindus see the third eyes as the doorway to your inner mind and a snake as a symbol of someone who meditates and resonates with his/her body chakras.

Of course people are scared of snakes primarily majority of those brought up with Judeo-Christian. I can guarantee you that most of the people who weren't brought up in Christianity have absolute no fear of snakes. In fact they see them as pets. The snake had 5% chances of attacking you, even when you accidentally step on it. The venom can be useful to humans as medicines etc.

The serpent race were domonized for the normal people but the elites are full time secret worshippers of the snake people. Talk about the Freemasion, Brotherhood of the snake etc are secret practice of the top European politicians and celebrities. They perform all sorts of rituals like the priests in Africa do. The idea is to keep knowledge hidden. When a typical Christian sees a snake symbol he runs away..... That is how they stay hidden.

Technology is already doing that. But the idea of accessing 100% of our subconscious will instantly stop the illusion of time. You won't be on this planet as your frequency will be too much for physical reality. You simply won't be seen by the physical eyes. 40% is a lot too. Religious folks are using how many ?

OLAADEGBU:
What is the location of the Garden of Eden? Is the Garden of Eden still on the earth somewhere?

Location is in your mind. Accessing its full potential how you can go back to it.

AlvanT:
Could this serpentine humanoids have to do with the fall of man in the garden of Eden as told in the bible "the serpent"?.

Do you think this reptilians are also the Annunakis that resequenced our DNA? I need answers Sir.

Hi, "the fall of man" is an interesting one. The Serpent Race( a well known tale of the Native Americans) were themselves direct descendants of the Anunaki, in that they were half reptoids and half Annunaki. This was during the dinosaur era when the planet was mostly reptiles. For the fact that they were partly Anunnaki meant at least 20 of the condones in the DNA was active....imagine what they could do with that. I means they could easily tap into their subconscious mind, whereby communicate telepathically, increase knowledge of themselves and the univers,easily learn how to elongate their life span etc.

They were meant to be workers for the Annunaki but because they were highly intelligent they rebelled and went to war with their genetic parents. Hereby " there was war in the heavens" The war lasted for a while and obviously the more supreme Annunaki came out top......hence " The Earth was desolate and without form"......the story which was never told in the bible.


They were driven into the inner Earth and a new race/ life form was formed. A less intelligent one that would obey the anunaki without questions. How was this done? Less active condones of the DNA. Although the Serpent race got in contact with the humans who they saw as genetically their cousins.....they saw man worked on the lands to mine gold like slaves and felt pity for them.

The female humans were receptive to the Snake people....hence the knowledge of witchcraft, reproduction,sex etc. The men benefited from the knowledge of the women and a new rebellion was formed. But the humans were at disadvantage as the Anunaki had altered their DNA badly that it took a long time for them to be organised and strike.

The story of the Tower of Babel was a point when the humans were great.......but we know what happened after that. The Anunnaki decided against destroying them but spread them around as they got scared they would equal them in no time.

Part of the fall of man was the tinkling of the longetivily of man. The bible can confirm this. If man dies on time,he will have no time to be like the gods, the anunaki. Imagine Eienstein living up to to 900 years........ What a world we would have.


The Serpent people are also seen as the Devils today , as they say the devil is the giver of knowledge.

Stewie101:
So essentially we are at the mercy of our individual subconscious minds? And if we are created with intrinsically different subconscious minds, it means we have intrinsically different predetermined fates. Doesn't this still validate my initial claim that who we are and what we do, isn't within our control? We seem to be saying the same thing.

And I find it a bit disconcerting that you are making these assertive, elabotate claims about the existence and nature of our subconscious mind on the basis of no evidence at all besides new age books that you read.
Shouldn't you also give the Christians and Muslims the benefit of the doubt for believing in Souls and the afterlife on the basis of no evidence besides what's in their holy books, since you are also doing the same thing?

All the answers to our millions of questions are inside of us. This is why hipnotists need to put the conscious mind to sleep in order to tap into the real man/ subconscious/ God mind, who knows all things.

We haven't been taught how to make use out subconscious, instead we are taught to rely on logic and instincts. " Man know thyself" is only referring to us getting to know the inner man, our true essence.

Over the years many have tapped into it through various means like Meditations... The art of silencing the ego mind, the Buddhist monks knew exactly the importance.

Another way is to avoid resisting our highest excitement. Through doing the simplest things, as they build up to a bigger meaning to life.

Sorry I have to run now. I will talk more on this and address your comment.

Stewie101:
So is this subconscious mind vulnerable to influences within and outside of ourselves? What constitutes this subconscious mind?

The Subconscious( super-conscious mind) does not belong to this illusion.It is all knowing,doesn't distinguish between good or bad, happy or sad because it doesn't need to.

It is too experienced to be influenced. It simply observes the conscious mind but give guidance when needed.... In form of dreams etc

It's main goal is to achieve balance. If had seen it all. According to Einstein, " it is very persistent".

Stewie101:
Isn't the point you are making antithetical to your claim about the existence of freewill? If our conscious mind isn't in charge of our thoughts and actions, doesn't that support the claim that we don't have freewill?

What do you mean by the statement that even though it isn't our conscious mind making our decisions, and rather a slew of influences, that it doesn't negate the fact that it isn't still us? Aren't you just playing a language game? If a rat is injected with a drug that induces violent actions, and this drug causes it to act violent and kill other rats, according to you it's still the rat making the decision to kill other rats.

Let's call the subconscious the higher mind and conscious mind the lower mind of ourselves. The higher mind is at the tree top, it can see what the lower mind cannot see. It spot the danger the lower mind can't see, hence protects it. The lower mind( conscious mind) is like a kid who has no idea what is up there. He has no experience whatsoever, no idea the dangers that lies ahead, he doesn't control anything.

Majority of us planned to be Lawyers, Doctors, wives, Houses etc back in school. But just like kids the conscious mind is ambitious but when reality checks in, he finds himself somewhere else he never imagined. That is the subconscious working, creating subconsciously agreed illusions that will benefit your purpose of playing this life game.

Logic never solves anything. Life is not a straight line, we all know this. The best we can do is to avoid resistance to the subconscious. This is what the Christians call " The will of God".....which in psychology known as the " The will of the subconscious mind/ real man"

I don't know what to say about the rats. I believe the rat is also play the game. This may sound corny , but if you think about what I have written so far, you will realise that there isn't much the physical mind can do. The bible God is a misunderstanding of how our minds work.

Religious people are another aspects of the atheist. There will always be frictions here and there. That is how life works and continue function. The Prime Radiant is for ever spinning at a billions times per sec.

Stewie101:
How are you exercising free will every second?

Isn't the phrase: "Subconscious Freewill" a paradoxically statement? How can freewill be subconscious? Doesn't the concept of freewill embody the conscious process of making decisions and carrying out actions?

95% of our daily decisions are made subconsciously and this part of our mind works millions of time faster than we can imagine. It helps us make basic and uneasy decisions. Someone will religiously call it god, spirit guards. It is your protection from the illusionary you. Your breathing, heart beat, beliefs, memories are controlled by this part of your mind. On this plane of existence, I'm afraid your conscious mind is not in charge....still doesn't mean it's not you.

Conscious mind is mostly logical and therefore cannot be trusted. It is only designed to experience and not make decisions. The real you right now that you are aware of is only 5%. When you die, your subconscious is what you become. Then it will become obvious that that is the real you who has always had 100% free will.

Hati13:
I think you could be right. There are different episodes on a documentary named "Ancient Aliens", which it said that, we may be Genetically Engineered and helped on our civilization by advanced Aliens. They said that, some of our greatest architectural achievements like, The pyramids in Egypt, Axum Obelisks in Ethiopia, the 11 monolithic churches in Ethiopia and others could be built with the coalition of humans and advanced Aliens. It may be true or not, we don't have that much evidences to prove either of them.

Our science today is still very much limited,but a work in progress. There are many statues of weird looking beings, Giants, massive temples and artifed that we are still trying to figure out. But thanks to books like the POPOL VUH of Mayans, ancient Hindu books etc spoke of races of being coming from other worlds( planets) to mingle with humans. Due to their advance techs, they were seen as gods.

We still cannot relplicate those giant monuments. They sure weren't created by humans,science of today still cannot build that pyramid of Egypt. It is obvious our limited knowledge of science will not say much about what it does not know yet. But deep down thoughtful minds,we could tell humans didn't build them. Who did?

There will be more clarity once we separate the bible god( tyrant) from the true meaning of God. God is a religious word for Energy. That being said,we are all Energy, that is what we are and it is US.

We definitely all have freewill and we are excersising it every seconds. The choice to be on this planet and partake in the illusion going on here is subconscious free will. I see it as a game. We are all great actors and actresses. We all play this life game as if it were real. I love this game of us thinking we got no free will.

Hati13:
What if we are created by Aliens and we are in stimulation controlled by some bunch of high school students or scientists or others. It may sound weird, but WHAT IF? If some of them are very much advanced, they may do it.

I'm not saying, we are definitely created by them. I'm saying, WHAT IF?

Not created,but seeded by Extratterstrials so to speak. Apparently, from researches, ancients knowledge,books( including the bible) we were genetically mortified. Just like plants,you cannot create plants,but you can help plant the seeds all over the planet. They will grow provided they are supported by the atmospheric conditions.

Zooming On this planet alone, we have different life forms. Humans, cat family, reptiles, birds ....... We know the humans to be more advance and you can see us controlling, experimenting, making use of the less intellectually advance animals as study projects, we infiltrate their environment, determines which ones are pets, wild, food etc.

Zooming out of this planet is also a much bigger view. Lots of planets and galaxies with different life forms. Some are less advance to us and some are extremely, billions of light years superior to us( mistakenly called gods). Life is a much bigger cycle than we can imagine.

Can they play us like computer games, yes they can. Watch the animal planet TV show and see how micro chips are put on tigers, lions, monkeys by humans. They vaccinate them, study them, monitor them all in the name of research. Sometimes we humans kill theses animals for fun. Do we care about how these animals feel? Many of us don't. But some people are pushing for animal rights and laws to enforce no animal cruelty. Today wild life are being protected by the good humans. The bad ones will kill and show them off on nairaland. The same can happen to us if discovered by a much highly evolved life forms who are negative as some of us.

I like your thought pattern OP, all questions are valid and relevant.

Yahweh's heaven?

The bible god basically cared only about his own feelings. Worship him alone and not the other Gods. Reminds me of a severely insecure girlfriend. The rape part absurd and terrible, exactly what you expect from Boko haram.

chrisseun:
Now that's complex, snake people for one, is that from Science or a religion?

It depends on which science you meant. Besides science of today is still a baby to the knowledge the ancient had. Perhaps I shouldn't have let that out. There are hidden and suppressed knowledge about the snake people( reptilians), another life forms, humanoids that live on this planet before Morden human. You can see many statues of them in South America. According to the Mayan, their gods were reptoids who gave them knowledge of the stars. The Dogans of Mali, in South Africa, they acknowledged the fact that the gods had reptile-like physical appearance. " My opinion" and from what I have read, these were the serpent race,who themselves live on earth millions of years ago.

Religion is only a misinterpretation of these knowledge.

The mis-use of words led to this confusion. Firstly there was no God who created humans, they were ( according to the bible) a group of Extratterstrials who genetically altered the already evolving species on this planet. They altered homosepians to mine gold, used them as workers, the same way we use Horses,Donkeys as work force.

The further genetic altering by another race whom I suspect to be " Inter-terrestrials", some call them the " snake people"( a symbol of people with knowledge, who were themselves genetically modified in the past, altered the Homo- Erectus( Morden humans) to be inquisitive, taught them how to reproduces with themselves, taught them mathematic, astronomy , mathematic ....these made man intelligent and obviously rebelled against the Elohims/ gods.

The rebellion did not take place over night. It took time. Not like the pastors preach like it all happened in 2 days. It took hundreds of years. OP,you will notice that the gods were shock that the humans were intelligent enough to build a portal " Tower of Babel " , a door way/ time machine to reach other parts of the galaxies. The gods/ bible gods obviously didn't want that.

It will be up to us to decide who the true giver of knowledge are. It pretty easy.

Biafra needs to happen for the Igbos now. That's what they want,they should have it.

Fuckshiit:
I FÚÇKING SUPPORT BIÀFRÀ ....

As a human being, Yoruba , I support Biafra.

The only positive from church is the fact that it is a good dating site/ avenue.