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Technology is already doing that. But the idea of accessing 100% of our subconscious will instantly stop the illusion of time. You won't be on this planet as your frequency will be too much for physical reality. You simply won't be seen by the physical eyes. 40% is a lot too. Religious folks are using how many ?

OLAADEGBU:
What is the location of the Garden of Eden? Is the Garden of Eden still on the earth somewhere?

Location is in your mind. Accessing its full potential how you can go back to it.

AlvanT:
Could this serpentine humanoids have to do with the fall of man in the garden of Eden as told in the bible "the serpent"?.

Do you think this reptilians are also the Annunakis that resequenced our DNA? I need answers Sir.

Hi, "the fall of man" is an interesting one. The Serpent Race( a well known tale of the Native Americans) were themselves direct descendants of the Anunaki, in that they were half reptoids and half Annunaki. This was during the dinosaur era when the planet was mostly reptiles. For the fact that they were partly Anunnaki meant at least 20 of the condones in the DNA was active....imagine what they could do with that. I means they could easily tap into their subconscious mind, whereby communicate telepathically, increase knowledge of themselves and the univers,easily learn how to elongate their life span etc.

They were meant to be workers for the Annunaki but because they were highly intelligent they rebelled and went to war with their genetic parents. Hereby " there was war in the heavens" The war lasted for a while and obviously the more supreme Annunaki came out top......hence " The Earth was desolate and without form"......the story which was never told in the bible.


They were driven into the inner Earth and a new race/ life form was formed. A less intelligent one that would obey the anunaki without questions. How was this done? Less active condones of the DNA. Although the Serpent race got in contact with the humans who they saw as genetically their cousins.....they saw man worked on the lands to mine gold like slaves and felt pity for them.

The female humans were receptive to the Snake people....hence the knowledge of witchcraft, reproduction,sex etc. The men benefited from the knowledge of the women and a new rebellion was formed. But the humans were at disadvantage as the Anunaki had altered their DNA badly that it took a long time for them to be organised and strike.

The story of the Tower of Babel was a point when the humans were great.......but we know what happened after that. The Anunnaki decided against destroying them but spread them around as they got scared they would equal them in no time.

Part of the fall of man was the tinkling of the longetivily of man. The bible can confirm this. If man dies on time,he will have no time to be like the gods, the anunaki. Imagine Eienstein living up to to 900 years........ What a world we would have.


The Serpent people are also seen as the Devils today , as they say the devil is the giver of knowledge.

Stewie101:
So essentially we are at the mercy of our individual subconscious minds? And if we are created with intrinsically different subconscious minds, it means we have intrinsically different predetermined fates. Doesn't this still validate my initial claim that who we are and what we do, isn't within our control? We seem to be saying the same thing.

And I find it a bit disconcerting that you are making these assertive, elabotate claims about the existence and nature of our subconscious mind on the basis of no evidence at all besides new age books that you read.
Shouldn't you also give the Christians and Muslims the benefit of the doubt for believing in Souls and the afterlife on the basis of no evidence besides what's in their holy books, since you are also doing the same thing?

All the answers to our millions of questions are inside of us. This is why hipnotists need to put the conscious mind to sleep in order to tap into the real man/ subconscious/ God mind, who knows all things.

We haven't been taught how to make use out subconscious, instead we are taught to rely on logic and instincts. " Man know thyself" is only referring to us getting to know the inner man, our true essence.

Over the years many have tapped into it through various means like Meditations... The art of silencing the ego mind, the Buddhist monks knew exactly the importance.

Another way is to avoid resisting our highest excitement. Through doing the simplest things, as they build up to a bigger meaning to life.

Sorry I have to run now. I will talk more on this and address your comment.

Stewie101:
So is this subconscious mind vulnerable to influences within and outside of ourselves? What constitutes this subconscious mind?

The Subconscious( super-conscious mind) does not belong to this illusion.It is all knowing,doesn't distinguish between good or bad, happy or sad because it doesn't need to.

It is too experienced to be influenced. It simply observes the conscious mind but give guidance when needed.... In form of dreams etc

It's main goal is to achieve balance. If had seen it all. According to Einstein, " it is very persistent".

Stewie101:
Isn't the point you are making antithetical to your claim about the existence of freewill? If our conscious mind isn't in charge of our thoughts and actions, doesn't that support the claim that we don't have freewill?

What do you mean by the statement that even though it isn't our conscious mind making our decisions, and rather a slew of influences, that it doesn't negate the fact that it isn't still us? Aren't you just playing a language game? If a rat is injected with a drug that induces violent actions, and this drug causes it to act violent and kill other rats, according to you it's still the rat making the decision to kill other rats.

Let's call the subconscious the higher mind and conscious mind the lower mind of ourselves. The higher mind is at the tree top, it can see what the lower mind cannot see. It spot the danger the lower mind can't see, hence protects it. The lower mind( conscious mind) is like a kid who has no idea what is up there. He has no experience whatsoever, no idea the dangers that lies ahead, he doesn't control anything.

Majority of us planned to be Lawyers, Doctors, wives, Houses etc back in school. But just like kids the conscious mind is ambitious but when reality checks in, he finds himself somewhere else he never imagined. That is the subconscious working, creating subconsciously agreed illusions that will benefit your purpose of playing this life game.

Logic never solves anything. Life is not a straight line, we all know this. The best we can do is to avoid resistance to the subconscious. This is what the Christians call " The will of God".....which in psychology known as the " The will of the subconscious mind/ real man"

I don't know what to say about the rats. I believe the rat is also play the game. This may sound corny , but if you think about what I have written so far, you will realise that there isn't much the physical mind can do. The bible God is a misunderstanding of how our minds work.

Religious people are another aspects of the atheist. There will always be frictions here and there. That is how life works and continue function. The Prime Radiant is for ever spinning at a billions times per sec.

Stewie101:
How are you exercising free will every second?

Isn't the phrase: "Subconscious Freewill" a paradoxically statement? How can freewill be subconscious? Doesn't the concept of freewill embody the conscious process of making decisions and carrying out actions?

95% of our daily decisions are made subconsciously and this part of our mind works millions of time faster than we can imagine. It helps us make basic and uneasy decisions. Someone will religiously call it god, spirit guards. It is your protection from the illusionary you. Your breathing, heart beat, beliefs, memories are controlled by this part of your mind. On this plane of existence, I'm afraid your conscious mind is not in charge....still doesn't mean it's not you.

Conscious mind is mostly logical and therefore cannot be trusted. It is only designed to experience and not make decisions. The real you right now that you are aware of is only 5%. When you die, your subconscious is what you become. Then it will become obvious that that is the real you who has always had 100% free will.

Hati13:
I think you could be right. There are different episodes on a documentary named "Ancient Aliens", which it said that, we may be Genetically Engineered and helped on our civilization by advanced Aliens. They said that, some of our greatest architectural achievements like, The pyramids in Egypt, Axum Obelisks in Ethiopia, the 11 monolithic churches in Ethiopia and others could be built with the coalition of humans and advanced Aliens. It may be true or not, we don't have that much evidences to prove either of them.

Our science today is still very much limited,but a work in progress. There are many statues of weird looking beings, Giants, massive temples and artifed that we are still trying to figure out. But thanks to books like the POPOL VUH of Mayans, ancient Hindu books etc spoke of races of being coming from other worlds( planets) to mingle with humans. Due to their advance techs, they were seen as gods.

We still cannot relplicate those giant monuments. They sure weren't created by humans,science of today still cannot build that pyramid of Egypt. It is obvious our limited knowledge of science will not say much about what it does not know yet. But deep down thoughtful minds,we could tell humans didn't build them. Who did?

There will be more clarity once we separate the bible god( tyrant) from the true meaning of God. God is a religious word for Energy. That being said,we are all Energy, that is what we are and it is US.

We definitely all have freewill and we are excersising it every seconds. The choice to be on this planet and partake in the illusion going on here is subconscious free will. I see it as a game. We are all great actors and actresses. We all play this life game as if it were real. I love this game of us thinking we got no free will.

Hati13:
What if we are created by Aliens and we are in stimulation controlled by some bunch of high school students or scientists or others. It may sound weird, but WHAT IF? If some of them are very much advanced, they may do it.

I'm not saying, we are definitely created by them. I'm saying, WHAT IF?

Not created,but seeded by Extratterstrials so to speak. Apparently, from researches, ancients knowledge,books( including the bible) we were genetically mortified. Just like plants,you cannot create plants,but you can help plant the seeds all over the planet. They will grow provided they are supported by the atmospheric conditions.

Zooming On this planet alone, we have different life forms. Humans, cat family, reptiles, birds ....... We know the humans to be more advance and you can see us controlling, experimenting, making use of the less intellectually advance animals as study projects, we infiltrate their environment, determines which ones are pets, wild, food etc.

Zooming out of this planet is also a much bigger view. Lots of planets and galaxies with different life forms. Some are less advance to us and some are extremely, billions of light years superior to us( mistakenly called gods). Life is a much bigger cycle than we can imagine.

Can they play us like computer games, yes they can. Watch the animal planet TV show and see how micro chips are put on tigers, lions, monkeys by humans. They vaccinate them, study them, monitor them all in the name of research. Sometimes we humans kill theses animals for fun. Do we care about how these animals feel? Many of us don't. But some people are pushing for animal rights and laws to enforce no animal cruelty. Today wild life are being protected by the good humans. The bad ones will kill and show them off on nairaland. The same can happen to us if discovered by a much highly evolved life forms who are negative as some of us.

I like your thought pattern OP, all questions are valid and relevant.

Yahweh's heaven?

The bible god basically cared only about his own feelings. Worship him alone and not the other Gods. Reminds me of a severely insecure girlfriend. The rape part absurd and terrible, exactly what you expect from Boko haram.

chrisseun:
Now that's complex, snake people for one, is that from Science or a religion?

It depends on which science you meant. Besides science of today is still a baby to the knowledge the ancient had. Perhaps I shouldn't have let that out. There are hidden and suppressed knowledge about the snake people( reptilians), another life forms, humanoids that live on this planet before Morden human. You can see many statues of them in South America. According to the Mayan, their gods were reptoids who gave them knowledge of the stars. The Dogans of Mali, in South Africa, they acknowledged the fact that the gods had reptile-like physical appearance. " My opinion" and from what I have read, these were the serpent race,who themselves live on earth millions of years ago.

Religion is only a misinterpretation of these knowledge.

The mis-use of words led to this confusion. Firstly there was no God who created humans, they were ( according to the bible) a group of Extratterstrials who genetically altered the already evolving species on this planet. They altered homosepians to mine gold, used them as workers, the same way we use Horses,Donkeys as work force.

The further genetic altering by another race whom I suspect to be " Inter-terrestrials", some call them the " snake people"( a symbol of people with knowledge, who were themselves genetically modified in the past, altered the Homo- Erectus( Morden humans) to be inquisitive, taught them how to reproduces with themselves, taught them mathematic, astronomy , mathematic ....these made man intelligent and obviously rebelled against the Elohims/ gods.

The rebellion did not take place over night. It took time. Not like the pastors preach like it all happened in 2 days. It took hundreds of years. OP,you will notice that the gods were shock that the humans were intelligent enough to build a portal " Tower of Babel " , a door way/ time machine to reach other parts of the galaxies. The gods/ bible gods obviously didn't want that.

It will be up to us to decide who the true giver of knowledge are. It pretty easy.

Biafra needs to happen for the Igbos now. That's what they want,they should have it.

Fuckshiit:
I FÚÇKING SUPPORT BIÀFRÀ ....

As a human being, Yoruba , I support Biafra.

The only positive from church is the fact that it is a good dating site/ avenue.

What is the point crying when it is obvious everyone there will kick the bucket at some point ?

solpat:
He needs to be flogged

Why?

ftechclass:
Imagine, for a moment, that you live in a different country and are the descendent of a rebellious tribe who resisted the rule of a dictator. Because your ancestors rebelled, you must pay for the crime even though you had nothing to do with it. This dictator tells you what you can eat and on which days you can eat it. How you can love and who you can love. He tells you that you must submit to him before every meal and every night before bed. He tells you that he is infallible, omnipotent, and omniscient. But, above all, he loves you and you should love him. If you disobey or do not submit to him, you will be tortured for the rest of your life. However, if you follow the rules you will be just fine. Now, what would you say if I told you that I don’t think you could act morally if you didn’t live in a society like this? This is how it sounds when a theist says that I cannot be moral if I don’t believe in their specific version of the “Dictator”. What an absurd statement. It is insulting to me and it should also be insulting to you. I sincerely hope that you are not being a villain just because your deity told you not to.

I hope that I have, at the least, given you an outside perspective of what the theistic world looks like to the irreligious. I would like to make an emotional appeal for God now, because I just cannot see a logical or ethical one.

That's a proper deception of the Christian idea of God there. Emotional attachment is the only shield of the Christian God today, thanks majorly to our great grand parent/ parents who were themselves victims of the missionaries.

The idea of a loving God was forced on them, and with innocent heart they took it, they had no choice. Our immediate parents today had no contact with the missionaries in a major way.This virus, this god idea they got from their parent got stronger with time like we can see today.

Let's look at it this way.... Something we directly inherit from our parents are most cherished by us. Especially when a child loses his parent,he/she tends to hold onto that belief emotionally to preserve the legacy of the parent. This legacy get passed on to the next generation kids with love and pride. Today we see on nairaland how proud the Chrustians and Muslims are of this dogma, this virus, these gods. It will be a huge betrayal to let go the beliefs of the family, a thing of shame etc

The best way to fight this virus is education and criticism. We must not relent. As they evangelise, we speak out , as they play their loud music, collecting offering, disturbing the peace of the society, we must not relent! It is time to be out there in their faces and speak with reason and love. We must help the younger generation who are already being indoctrinated.

It is sad that majority of the Nigerian politicians are religious. They kneel at every opportunity in front of these legal parasites. This gave room to pastors committing crimes and going unpunished. Imagine a pastor buying a private jet! That's insane! These guys don't even pay taxes. They are parasites sucking the bloods of their church members. Religion has got to the best example of mind control. It is shocking!

Probably an agreement between doctor and baby subconsciously.

OP the world has moved pass heaven and hell.

RosaConsidine:
To some extent, I would agree (though limiting it to Pentecostals is a bit unfair - even we Orthodox worshippers have our fair share of excesses). However, I think globalization and exposure is a strong driving force for atheism in Nigeria. I mean, we Nigerians got our major religions from a similar system (the foreigners came with their religion and enough of us followed to relegate our erstwhile major traditional religions to insignificance. Now though, with the internet, the "gospel" of atheism is reaching us though this time the "missionaries" don't have to brave an ocean crossing to convince people here to be atheist.

I think what I find interesting about atheism though and what makes it unlike religion is that you don't really need someone to "preach" it to you to become an atheist. All you just have to do is stop believing. I mean, imagine if one of our forefathers before the coming of the missionaries thought "abeg, abeg. All these gods and oracles don't exist. We offer sacrifice yet they don't do what we ask for. In fact, they don't exist". Boom, you have one of our earliest atheists (I think someone on the thread earlier said something similar).

So, my answer is yes, to some extent it is.

Globalisation didn't cause Atheism, globalisation made everyone with similar views come together. People who are Atheist are those clever enough to question religion. Atheism isn't really a movement, it is a measure of rise of intelligent humans.

CandidSeeker:
Moses gave God tough time from the beginning of his call:

…… Come now therefore, and I will send thee unto Pharaoh, that thou mayest bring forth my people the children of Israel out of Egypt. And Moses said unto God, Who am I, that I should go unto Pharaoh, and that I should bring forth the children of Israel out of Egypt?
And he said, Certainly I will be with thee; and this shall be a token unto thee, that I have sent thee: When thou hast brought forth the people out of Egypt, ye shall serve God upon this mountain.
And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?

And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.
– Ex.3:10-15

And Moses answered and said, But, behold, they will not believe me, nor hearken unto my voice: for they will say, The LORD hath not appeared unto thee.
And the LORD said unto him, What is that in thine hand? And he said, A rod. And he said, Cast it on the ground. And he cast it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from before it..........
- Ex.4.1-8


Aaron was not supposed to be a part of the plan!
And Moses said unto the LORD, O my LORD, I am not eloquent, neither heretofore, nor since thou hast spoken unto thy servant: but I am slow of speech, and of a slow tongue.

And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD? Now therefore go, and I will be with thy mouth, and teach thee what thou shalt say.

And he said, O my LORD, send, I pray thee, by the hand of him whom thou wilt send.

And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Moses, and he said, Is not Aaron the Levite thy brother? I know that he can speak well. And also, behold, he cometh forth to meet thee: and when he seeth thee, he will be glad in his heart.

And thou shalt speak unto him, and put words in his mouth: and I will be with thy mouth, and with his mouth, and will teach you what ye shall do.

And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.
-----Ex.4:10-16


He got use to old method.
-Just like most Christians today refused to operate in the new covenant (testament) by sticking to the old covenant (testament).

...And the LORD said unto Moses, Go on before the people, and take with thee of the elders of Israel; and thy rod, wherewith thou smotest the river, take in thine hand, and go.
Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel. …. Ex.17:5-6(Old Method)

And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Take the rod, and gather thou the assembly together, thou, and Aaron thy brother, and speak ye unto the rock before their eyes; and it shall give forth his water, and thou shalt bring forth to them water out of the rock: so thou shalt give the congregation and their beasts drink.

And Moses took the rod from before the LORD, as he commanded him. And Moses and Aaron gathered the congregation together before the rock, and he said unto them, Hear now, ye rebels; must we fetch you water out of this rock?

And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock twice: and the water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their beasts also.
And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them.

- Num.20:7-12(He used the old method instead of the new method, not paying attention to the new instruction).


Before we decide on any action or ‘inaction’, we need to know what God is saying now.

What He’s saying to you may be different from what he said to your parents or your general overseer. How he want you to handle things now may be fiferent from what has always worked for you in the past.

It’s important for us to note the: What? Why? Who? When? Where? And How? of our individual calling (I will expatiate more on these in a new topic on ‘What God is saying now.’).

‘When a door closes, another one opens; but we often stay in front of the closed door crying, and thereby not able to see the new open door’.

God sometimes change the channels through which he meets our needs. We’ll miss it unless we abide!

It's necessary that we continue to study and meditate prayerfully, so as to be regulated from within.

-Peace.

Lol you are funny.....really?

Atheism had always been there.

Religion( especially Christianity) became soft with time. Gone are the days guys like me would have been beheaded or hanged by the pope/ priests.

The increase in the amount of learned people is a big factor. Education frees the mind and increases questions asked. I personally read the bible to know that god doesn't exist. I know the difference between methaphors and reality. I have been able to read other religious books and see that they are all talking about the same thing : ADVANCE QUANTUM PHYSICS ; which was simplyfied to the understand of a 4 year old.....in a form of religion. God creating the world in 7 days is a methapor , Jacob's ladder is a mathsphor, Jesus dying on the cross and rising on the 3rd day is a methaphor, Jonah staying 3 days in the belly of a fish is a methaphor. Only a 5 year old will believe such stories.....and maybe Chrustians and Muslims obviously

The fact that our laws are no more dominated by religion now encourages people to debate religion openly. Thus people who are more intelligent that others often turn against religion. There are lots of reasons why Atheism is on the rise. It isn't the flaws of the penticostals. Don't forget people cannot be slaves for ever.

5DMindset:
Truth

Our life is built around the concept of truth and we tend to avoid those who do not tell the truth. Truth stands true for each circumstance.
Facts are the bricks from which we attempt to discover Truth. But what if the Facts from which a certain Truth was established was inconclusive or wrong ? What if these erroneous facts, were established thousands of years before our ancestors were even born and they accepted the Truth because there was no discipline or, should I rather say, physical science at that age did not have the empirical parameters to re-verify the facts surrounding this Truth ?

If Science has established that certain facts around certain Truth was based on errors of introducing Constants into the Equations of nature just to build up a body of evidence to establish a Truth, which was designed to continually program the masses, to control them, to make them walk in line, while the 'Men Wey Sabi' enjoy while the rest just do not know other ways to live than the status quo?

What if one knows certain Truth, and in deciding to share, the program and matrix is so deep that the entire population of the world being programmed on erroneous concept they have been birthed to believe is true, will the entire world not think this singular individual or individuals (is/are) mad ? Ofcourse they will.

Before you make Dogma out of your Truth, understand that basis of your belief could have been built on erroneous facts.

OR

Should it be that Truth can Change ? YES. Truth can change over time. Because we live in a Time-Space Construct, so Time and Distance can alter the trust in Truth, the facts in Truth and the taste of Truth.

For example; If a wife told a Husband, the salient sentence "#I will love you for ever, for better and for worse, till Death Do us part". She meant it, it was The Truth. Then the family got VISA and moved to the USA, Distance and Time becomes new ingredients in the Consciousness of their Family. Yes, and she lands in the USA and finds new horizon, new life different from the one in Okokomaiko. The Husband now sees sexy angels dying for his attention and the wife sees the Money Team with Private Jet, dying to have her and truly in love. Then the Truth of the covenant of marriage, the so called 'Till Death Do us part' is evaluated based on the new paradigm introduced into the Consciousness of the marriage by Time and Space.

Truth Changes.

Religious Ladies and Gentlemen, please take note.

Do not Kill and fight for God or Satan, Do not Kill and fight for Allah and Devil, do not fight another man for the Extra-terrestrials who created you.

Let the Gods, fight their wars, let us be the spectators.

For once, let humans write new Holy Books based on Reality of Today's Quantum World.

Happy Weekend.

Very well said. Change is the only thing constant. Laws change, people change.... It is pointless holding people unto rigid laws. Even the modern law changes. Our Quantum world is such a beauty. Thinking about how we shift around multiple realities a almost million times seconds amazes me. The me of few seconds ago is completely different from the me of now.

The funny thing is billions of marriage vows done in the presence of the " holy" priest, vows that don't last up to months. " I will love you till my dying breath"....is a big lie. I promised my first girl friend( aged 14) that I would marry her , and we were really serious looking into each other's eyes, making love etc....... I changed after few week. Why? Because change is constant. It is a fact we must accept.

Probably not many wives, but freedom to sexually explore with consent. If the women agree to marry him,why not. If a woman desires to many more than one man and they all agree, why not?

Martinez19:
Atheist in the house, if there is a being that created everything that be, what do you think his attributes will be? Will he be intelligent, perfect, kind e.t.c? I await your answers.

Johnydon22, donffd, hopefulLandlord, catfishbilly, and other atheist in the house.

All our attribitbutes ( good and evil) are he attributes of creation. If there is that one bring as you said, we are all it. We all cannot be created nor destroyed. We are that being experiences itself in infinite forms. Your attributes are automatically its attributes.

LoJ:
Hello dear,

although I believe in the views expressed in that quote, the quote is a fake one, an hoax. Other versions of the same quote exist concerning india, china, and other countries. It's all fake.

https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/10055/what-is-the-truth-behind-this-speech-by-lord-macaulay/10060

http://historydetox.com/the-macaulay-fraud/

Thanks bro.... You are rightl

mavrodi:
My quest for God has taken me far and wide, yet still i feel so empty, so "God empty"
Some one who has truly found God should tell me how to go about finding him!

Inside you lies the guy you are looking for. Anything out there, churches, pastors, bible are all illusion. The God/your true self has been with you and it's you all along.

Basically you are trying to find yourself.

The only way to find "God" is to be yourself, be comfortable in your own skin, know that you are unique and no one can be like you. Start doing things that you find easiest to do, exciting,gives you joy and you will find your true identity and purpose in life.