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Politics › Re: The South-West contributions to Nigeria's economy and other myth-busting facts by Igboid: 12:38am On Sep 12, 2016
NATIONAL BUREAU OF STATISTICS 2010-2015BANK CREDIT AND DEPOSIT BY STATES IN NIGERIABank credit/deposit in each state may be used as an indicator of the level of activity and well being of operators (households and businesses) in a particular state as it shows what residents are borrowing and the amount deposit in banks
http://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/report/384

Bank Deposit by states in Nigeria

From the report bank deposit by states in Southeast from 2010-2015

Bank deposit in Anambra state #1'844'434.75
Bank Credit # 258'716.37
Balance #1'585'718.38

Bank deposit in Enugu #1'651'741.09
Bank credit #370'012.75
Balance #1'281'728.59

Bank deposit in Imo # 936'606.57
bank credit #218'853.32
Balance #717'753.35

Bank deposit in Abia from #1'031'355.42
bank credit #391'675.25
Balance 639'580.17

Bank deposit in Ebonyi #330'841.52
bank credit #93'627.5
balance 237'214.02

Southeast total balance from 2010-2015 #4'461'997.51


From the report bank deposit by states in Southwest from 2010-2015 excluding nation commercial center

Bank deposit in Oyo #1'617'678.48
bank credit #598'298.6
Balance #1'019'379.88

Bank deposit in Ogun #1'204'873.59
bank credit # 558'073.3
Balance # 649'800.29

Bank deposit in Ondo #821'901.84
credit #306'621.05
Balance #515'280.79

Bank deposit in Osun #648'726.72
credit #417'073.72
Balance #231'653.05

Bank deposit in Ekiti #301'136.23
credit #123,254.46
Balance #177,881.77

South west total balance from 2010-2015 #2'593'995.78

http://nairaland.hotelbookingwe.com/3088004/southeast-one-richest-region-after/1
Politics › Re: The South-West contributions to Nigeria's economy and other myth-busting facts by Igboid: 12:35am On Sep 12, 2016
Domestic debt profile of the geopolitical zones in billions of Naira

1.South South. 624.6 billion
2 North Central. 186.0 billion
3 South West ( minus Lagos) 170.2billion
4 North East. 122.7 billion
5.. South East. 86.3 billion
6 North West. 85.7 billion

* Lagos. 268 billion

External debt profile of the geopolitical zones ( in Million dollars)

1. North West. 470 .0
2.South South. 461.0
3 South West( minus Lagos) 409.1
4 South East. 280.5
5 North Central. 266.6
6 North East. 250.0

* Lagos. 1billion dollars

Total debt profile of geopolitical zone( in Billions of dollars)

1 South South. 3.6
2 South West. 1.3
3 North Central. 1.2
4 North West. 0.9
5 North. East. 0.9
6 South. East. 0.7

* Lagos. 2.4

http://www.dmo.gov.ng/oci/subn/docs/Federal%20and%20State%20Governments%20External%20
Politics › Re: The South-West contributions to Nigeria's economy and other myth-busting facts by Igboid: 12:31am On Sep 12, 2016
Truth of the matter is that Ogun and the entire SW is a very highly indebted region with nothing to back up the debt.
Politics › Re: The South-West contributions to Nigeria's economy and other myth-busting facts by Igboid: 12:24am On Sep 12, 2016
Domestic Debt Rankings.

States. Debt in Billion Naira

1. Lagos. 268.1
2 Delta. 212.0
3. FCT. 110.1
4. Cross River. 107.3
5 Rivers. 91.8
6. Bayelsa. 91.7
7 Akwa Ibom. 81.8
8. Plateau. 78.4
9. Ogun. 70.2
10 Edo. 40.0
11 Osun. 37.
12 Nassarawa. 34.5
13 Kano. 31.4
14 Ekiti. 30.5
15Gombe. 30.0
16 Imo. 29.0
17 Bauchi. 28.0
18 Adamawa. 26.4
19 Abia. 25.1
20 Niger. 23.4
21 Borno 22.3
22 Enugu. 22.6
23 Kwara. 22.1
24 Ondo. 19.3
25 Benue. 17.3
26 Kebbi. 17.2
27 Kaduna. 16.7
28 Taraba. 14.4
29 Oyo. 13.2
30 Zamfara. 11.0
31 Kogi. 10.3
32 Sokoto. 7.7
33 Ebonyi. 6.7
34 Anambra. 2.9
35 Yobe. 1.6
36 Jigawa. 1.0
37 Katsina. 0.65

External debt Rankings

State. Debt in millions of dollars. * except Lagos

1. Lagos. 1.2 billion
2. Kaduna. 226.4
3. Edo. 168.2
4. Cross Rivers. 116.4
5. Ogun. 103.3
6. Bauchi. 85.3
7. Osun. 76.9
8. Katsina. 72.2
9. Enugu. 71.8
10 Oyo. 66.8
11 Anambra. 60.8
12 Imo. 59.2
13 Kano. 57.6
14 Ekiti. 55.0
15 Nassarawa. 53.1
16 Akwa Ibom. 52.7
17 Ondo. 52.1
18 Kwara. 51.0
19 Adamawa. 49.0
20 Ebonyi. 47.2
21 Rivers. 46.9
22 Kebbi. 45.3
23 Niger. 44.8
24 Sokoto. 41.9
25 Abia. 41.5
26 Gombe. 39.8
27 Delta. 38.8
28 Bayelsa. 37.6
29 Benue. 35.7
30FCT. 35.0
31 Zamfara. 34.9
32 Jigawa. 34.1
33 Kogi. 33.6
34 Yobe. 30.5
35 Plateau. 30.4
36 Borno. 23.1
37 Taraba. 23.0
Politics › Re: The South-West contributions to Nigeria's economy and other myth-busting facts by Igboid: 12:18am On Sep 12, 2016
The Ogun State chairman of the National Association of Nigerian Students, Dotun Opaleye,and Tai Solarin College of Education, TASCE, Students’ Union President, Dairo Ibrahim have led students of the institution to the Oke Ilewo Abeokuta secretariat of the Nigerian Union of Journalists to protest the non-payment of lecturers’ salaries. They accused the Amosu-led government of neglecting the institution as lecturers have not been paid for 14 months.
Placards they bore had different inscriptions such as, ‘Amosun restore education at TASCE’, ‘Please we students are suffering in TASCE’ among others.
Details to follow shortly.


https://www.newsbreak.ng/2016/06/ogun-students-protest-amosuns-alleged-neglect-tasce/
Politics › Re: The South-West contributions to Nigeria's economy and other myth-busting facts by Igboid: 11:59pm On Sep 11, 2016
ODVanguard:
Listen here you this jealous omo nna, the Federal govt. has admitted to owing Ogun state over N200-billion naira for fixing roads projects (the highest in the entire country) it has abandoned (at least we know where much of its debt profile went toward). That is more than 3rice its debt profile. You are just jealous coz no matter how you slice or dice it, we and una no be mates. Ogun slays all of your states in every economic indices available and there are facts to back it up so... Eat your heart out pazienza. cheesy




http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/03/23/fg-owes-states-n580-5bn-for-roads-rehabilitation/
Ogun is oweing civil servants 14 months salary as of March this year.

I'm yet to see news of where she cleared those backlogs of debt. Paying August salaries doesn't erase nada.
Politics › Re: The South-West contributions to Nigeria's economy and other myth-busting facts by Igboid: 11:57pm On Sep 11, 2016
DANGOTE’S SOLID MINERAL REVENUE HIGER THAN THE REST OF NIGERIA

"Dangote Group, owned by Aliko Dangote, generates more mineral resource revenue for the government than the rest of the nation put together. In 2013, the group was responsible for 53 percent of the government revenue, that is, N15.9 billion of the total N33.86 billion accrued that year.".

Revenue in question was generated by Dangote, who happened to have cited his industry in Ogun for obvious reasons, as Ogun is not the only site in Nigeria with limestone deposits.

How exactly this translates to Ogun contribution to FG is still funny to me.
Politics › Re: The South-West contributions to Nigeria's economy and other myth-busting facts by Igboid: 11:53pm On Sep 11, 2016
OGUN, KOGI LEADING IN ROYALTY PAYMENT


"Ogun and Kogi states led the pack for housing companies that make the highest amount of royalty payment to the federal government, while Kebbi and Taraba states came in at the bottom of the table as shown below. Ten states made no such royalty payment in the year under review".

Companies domiciled in Ogun, not owned by Ogun, generated the royalty being talked about here.

And they were only domiciled in Ogun because of Oguns proximity to Lagos, the gateway of the country that has held monopolistic grip on the port entry into the country.

This only reaffirms my point that Lagos port is not a SW contribution, rather it's a SW gain from one Nigeria. Being the gateway to the most populous black nation on earth. It won't be the same should Nigeria disintegrate.
Politics › Re: The South-West contributions to Nigeria's economy and other myth-busting facts by Igboid: 11:36pm On Sep 11, 2016
OmoAjowa7:
[img]http://gifs.gifme.io/i/4d924225db.gif[/img]



http://thenationonlineng.net/ogun-pays-august-salaries-deductions/
You owe some one for more than six months, and suddenly pays one month, which happens to be the most recent month, how exactly that translates to being debt free is still what I'm scratching my bald hair to understand.

http://nigeria.shafaqna.com/EN/NG/2687039
Politics › Re: The South-West contributions to Nigeria's economy and other myth-busting facts by Igboid: 11:20pm On Sep 11, 2016
I refuse to see how monies generated from Lagos port amounts to SW contribution to Nigeria, it would have been so if SW was the only coastal region such ports could have been built.

I think the SW through the port constructed there using the revenue generated from the rest of the country are actually parasitic to the rest of the country, as they had enjoyed undue monopolistic advantage as the gateway to the nation and the foreign investments that comes with such.

SW hosting the port is not a contribution, it's a gain she is gaining from Nigeria's unity and stands to lose should the country disintegrate.

Same applies to MMIA.
Though I think this had been tackled before in a counter thread, so I feel to understand why the Yorubas are jumping up here, expecting Ndiigbo to waste precious time on an issue we had already tackled.
Politics › Re: The South-West contributions to Nigeria's economy and other myth-busting facts by Igboid: 11:12pm On Sep 11, 2016
[quote author=ODVanguard post=49273641][/quote]Yet, Ogun can't pay salaries. Who is deceiving who. grin
Politics › Re: Annual Report Of 1914: Palm Oil Highest Revenue Earner by Igboid: 10:02am On Sep 10, 2016
Eastlink:
@OP, the report states 'Eastern Nigeria' and not 'Niger-Delta'. Eastern Nigeria or Oil Rivers was what the areas contituting the palm oil belt was known as then. The term 'Niger-Delta' is a new invention, synonymous with crude oil.
Nna, leave that matter for Matthias for now.

We have common foe, ie the North and their Yoruba Muslim brothers.

No need splitting hairs over irrelevant semantics for now. Whether Niger Delta or Eastern region, we are all saying same thing. If you put just Eastern region, you exclude the Western Igbos, if you put just Niger Delta, you exclude Anambra, Enugu and Ebonyi.

So, you see, it doesn't matter either of the terms we use, what matters is that we establish the fact that the Yorubas and the North had always been lacking, which is why they are still clinging unto Nigerian unity till today.

Udo.
Politics › Re: Whatever Side Of The Divide You Are, This Is A 'must Read' by Igboid: 9:51am On Sep 10, 2016
Raziii:
The South West are known for Education, why was it successful? Would it have been successful if Awo had tried to make it a national issue? your guess is as good as mine.
Apart from the returnee Brazilians who stationed in Lagos and integrated as Yorubas. There was never a time Yorubas were ahead of Ndiigbo in Education in Nigeria.

The Early advantage the Saros and Brazilians conferred to Yorubas was obliterated by Ndiigbo as early as 50's.

And since then, Ndiigbo have been on the fore front of education in Nigeria.

Enough if this Yoruba and Education lies. angry
Politics › Re: Whatever Side Of The Divide You Are, This Is A 'must Read' by Igboid: 9:47am On Sep 10, 2016
mrvitalis:
Bro I am not against restructuring of Nigeria. .. But don't say it because of the structure that made it possible for California to be what it is today

Lagos is Africa's California very soon it will be among the top ten economy in Africa in the same structure that u are condemning

What we have are weak leaders who can't think and weaker masses who can even see beyond their noise

What is stopping Akwa-Ibom from saying.. in the next 15 years we want to refined all the crude we produce and export the products? ? The money is not the issue... samw with Rivers and delta bayelsa can do same

What is stopping kaduna from owing 2million hectares of rice n wheat farms??

Bro even if u restructure once this states can pay salaries and do small projects theg will release
Very myopic Post. California was never the capital of USA, she doesn't have monopolistic grip on the sea port system of USA, she doesn't host the headquarters of oil giants operating in Texas.
Politics › Re: Annual Report Of 1914: Palm Oil Highest Revenue Earner by Igboid: 9:23am On Sep 10, 2016
jneutron4000:
Dont mind them, they are just confused. I just asked the OP a simple question and the guy just twisted everything. They just want to bad mouth SW region so that they will be happy grin. The Palm oil money that they are even shouting about, the Colonial Masters took almost all if not all away. After 1960, Cocoa became Nigeria major source of income before crude oil. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoa_production_in_Nigeria. So leave OP make him dey make himself happy grin
Cocoa became Western Nigeria major source of income, after independence, but even that was debatable, as some had argued that rubber mainly from the Midwest area was the real forex earner for the region.
Either way., Western region Cocoa was strictly for Western region, they fed no one else, they only paid their loyalty to the FG, like the the Eastern region and Northern region did.

Moreover, Cocoa was also produced in Cross Rivers and Northern Abia parts of the Eastern region, but not in the scale it was produced in Western region, just as Western region Palm produce were not in the scale as produced in the Eastern region and mid western parts.
Politics › Re: Annual Report Of 1914: Palm Oil Highest Revenue Earner by Igboid: 9:17am On Sep 10, 2016
timeman:
If only you had patience, maybe knowledge would have smiled at you, unfortunately, you were way ahead of yourself. if you had read with keen insights you would've realised that you gloated on mere trivial. Ask yourself why the market for palm oil declined from early 40s.
Kiss the truth!
Quit hiding your ignorance behind vague posts. If you have a point/ information relevant to the discussion, bring it out now or forever remain silent.
Politics › Re: Annual Report Of 1914: Palm Oil Highest Revenue Earner by Igboid: 8:21am On Sep 10, 2016
Lushore1:
Bros, he never said southwest produced palm products more than eastern or midwest region. It was you guys that initial claimed that niger delta was feeding everyone before you changed it to eastern region and eventually added midwest to your claim. Forgeting that midwest region was not part of eastern region but western region.

The total of palm products you guys were quoting came from all over the country and at least four states from SW region also produced palm products. Ondo, Ekiti, Ogun and Lagos state produced in large quantity.
No. As of the time in discuss, there was no Western region or Eastern region. It was Bourdillon in 1939 that created those regions.

But the Palm oil were produced in areas of the pre 1906 Southern Nigeria ie SS and SE, that eventually became Mid west and Eastern region.

You can't use because Bourdillon added the part of the Southern Nigeria known as the Midwest into your Lagos colony, to create western region in 1939, to now claim the Palm oil produced by the Mid westerners.
Politics › Re: Annual Report Of 1914: Palm Oil Highest Revenue Earner by Igboid: 10:10pm On Sep 09, 2016
VulgarVulvas:
That YAM squad chairman?

Why is he bearing Aribisala? That name is exclusive to Ondo state and not conquered kwarans
My brother, wonders shall never end in this NL.
Politics › Re: Annual Report Of 1914: Palm Oil Highest Revenue Earner by Igboid: 10:09pm On Sep 09, 2016
VulgarVulvas:
Check the title of this thread again. You see 1899 anywhere?

You were the only one who mentioned 1899 here.

The only dates I have mentioned and referenced here are 1907 up to 1914.

Go and sleep because you have been severely trashed here.
Chai! grin grin grin
Politics › Re: Annual Report Of 1914: Palm Oil Highest Revenue Earner by Igboid: 10:00pm On Sep 09, 2016
So this arisbisala is Jarus and also Omonnakoda all these while?

Choi! Ndia etee ose, tee ugba!
Politics › Re: Annual Report Of 1914: Palm Oil Highest Revenue Earner by Igboid:
VulgarVulvas:
I countered that lie by responding to him that if we were to go by that assertion then SW and Lagos was highest producer of groundnuts since northern groundnuts were exported out of Nigeria exclusively through Lagos port.

Yoruba people come and gagg aribisal0 because he is really disgracing you guys here with his silly lies
Cool.

And the point about how Lagos railway was built by robbing the Southern protectorate( SE and SS) right after Egerton merged us with Lagos colony( SW) was well highlighted in this discussion between Obiagu1 and PhysicsQED on this thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/1019602/dont-blame-1914-amalgamation-rather/2

Lagos was only able to expand her railway and her ports after that 1906 merging.
The SS and SE were robbed in day light by that single move.
That move also sealed Calabar's fate forever.
Politics › Re: Annual Report Of 1914: Palm Oil Highest Revenue Earner by Igboid: 9:42pm On Sep 09, 2016
By the way, that Palm oil was shipped through Lagos port, does not in any mean that they were produced in SW.

Only just a few part of Ondo were Palm oil producing, and it would even appear that that part was part of the Southern Nigeria, before the 1906 Egerton amalgamation.
Politics › Re: Annual Report Of 1914: Palm Oil Highest Revenue Earner by Igboid: 9:40pm On Sep 09, 2016
Adminisher:
Actually no Nigerian money initially went to develop the oil industry. It was after some mega-sized discoveries that the Joint Ventures started and Nigeria started contributing.

As for someone saying palm oil was feeding Nigeria in 1914. That is wrong please. You were feeding the UK and Royal Niger Company then after which then you started feedng yourselves in the Eastern/ Western region depending on what side of the Niger you were.
Mid West palm oil and rubber money was Western Region money. Rivers and Calabar was Eastern region.
Please stop all the rubbish about Niger Delta feeding anybody. There was very little crash crop cultivation in the real swamps of Niger Delta anyway. They were only logistics providers for large boats and canoeS to transport produce to Brass, Opobo and maybe Bonny
Western region started existing from 1939. As at the time of that publication, there was no Western region.

Until 1906, Southern Nigeria= SS plus SE.
Politics › Re: Breaking News! Free Biafra #1000 Naira In Circulation At Abuja by Igboid: 4:31pm On Sep 09, 2016
While I have no beef with the self determination rights of South Easterners, I believe that Biafra should not be seen as a utopia. Things WILL NOT EVEN BE NEAR OKAY. That dream of perfection is only a delusion especially if other tribes are going with Biafra, of which I know my Urhobo won't. The only thing that'll likely change is that Igbos will be in power & even this change will be at the detriment of other ethnic group and thus, a new Nigeria will evolve. If Igbos are patient enough and their leaders become smart and calculative, they can actually win the presidency in Nigeria and become much more relevant like they want.

No. Ndiigbo don't care about what you think about viability of Biafra, we are doing much better than your group in Nigeria, and would do many times better outside Nigeria.

We would appreciate if you save this your ignorant advice for yourself and your group, as you don't see Ndiigbo dishing out advices to you lots.

Nigerian presidency won't stop the Igbo yearnings for a state of ours, totally and completely free of Yoruba and Northern influence and presence.

Ndiigbo are open to the idea of a success driven state between her and related and neighboring groups in the defunct Eastern region, but she is also determined to go at it alone, if those groups prefer to stay in Nigeria, or fight for their own independent states.
Politics › Re: Breaking News! Free Biafra #1000 Naira In Circulation At Abuja by Igboid:
1. Igbos will take over the position of Hausa as exploiters, leeches, and power hungry dogs. Other so called tribes and even Igboid minorities will complain and start advocating for their own country. Soon enough, Biafra will divide and a civil war will ensue. Take a cue from South Sudan on this.

This is only a figment of your delusional imagination, it's a reflection of your wish which is ok, as long as we understand it as such and not as reality.


1. Biafra will not be structured like Nigeria. It was Will structured in such a way that each province controls her resources and pay tax to the central government.

There is nothing whatsoever in history to suggest that Ndiigbo are not capable of living in harmony with her non Igbo neighbors, our co existence with them both in pre colonial Nigeria and in Eastern region, has been that of harmonious and cordial co existence . The idea of a Biafra dividing into fragments is more or less what is to be expected of Odualand, if we put into consideration their historical antecedents as etched in Operating wetie, and the Kiriji battles. It rather paints a picture of people that were incapable of evolving beyond their primordial instincts of expansionism. This is not something you find in Igbo history.


2.Corrupt leaders are already in everywhere in Nigeria, Biafra can't be any worst than Nigeria, so you have no point here.

3. The natural resources ie Crude oil and natural gas in Abia, Imo, Anambra, Anioma, Oyigbo, Etche and Egbema will provide to Biafra more than she currently receives as monthly allocation from the FG.
The greatest resources of the Igbo is her high quality of human resources, that alone will see us through once good government policies are set in place to harness.

Moreover, Nigeria has access to all the crude oil wealth of all the places you mentioned, including those in Igbo speaking territories, yet she is still a failed state.

I reckon Biafra can't do worst.
Bottom line : Crude oil never guarantee the greatness of any nation. Human resources and the citizens patriotism are what build great nations. You need them both to extract the mineral resources, add value to them, sale and invest the proceeds in uplifting the people out of poverty.

Human resources and Patriotism are two most abundant resources in Biafra.

And by the way, how exactly is it your headache if the Igbo nation succeeds or fails? Nah so you love us reach? As bad as you think South Sudan is, the people would not trade their freedom by rejoining North sudan, freedom is priceless, and has no monetary equivalence.

4. This is another bullcrap. It never happened in the Eastern region, never happened in short-lived Biafra, it simply has no historical antecedent and is in direct head on collision with the Igbo belief in equity and fairness as represented by " Ofor/ Oho na Ogu".
So I will chuck this one off as one of those your wishful hallucinations borne out of hatred and desire to see the Igbo fail rather than spending such energy and time in advancing the growth and development of your own people.

5. Sure there might be such mistrusts, gosh! Even in families, siblings do rival each other, but it's always on low danger scales. It won't lead to killings. It would always be resolved in roundtables and will end up being resolved by peaceful negotiations as enshrined in the Igbo republican and democratic traits infused into our genes by our evolved ancestors.

It won't be like in Nigeria, where it all ends in killings.

Moreover, it's dumb of you bringing up this point, since it's already present in Nigeria in grand scale and can't be worst in Biafra with unified religious and cultural ties.

6. This is exactly what will happen to your Nigeria, you are simply projecting your fears on Biafra. Ndo.

Biafra member states will join the union voluntarily, and since the Union will not be built on parasitism, the states will also reserve the rights to secede once critical criteria are met, as their withdrawal won't affect the remaining states, since the remaining states were not parasites on the seceding one.
Culture › Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Igboid: 12:17pm On Sep 09, 2016
How can a Yoruba man say that Igbo language is nasalized?
This is the joke of the century.
The one reason why I hate Yoruba language is that it's over nasalized.

Sometimes I wonder what's wrong with a Yoruba mind, it accuses people of everything it is many times guilty of.
Culture › Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Igboid: 11:16pm On Sep 08, 2016
Ndigbo even answer Oyibo as names: http://allafrica.com/stories/200607241172.html
Culture › Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Igboid: 11:14pm On Sep 08, 2016
Ali Ogba: A History of Ogba people By Ellah, Francis J. 1995

NO NAMES OF AGE GRADE YEARS OF BIRTH OF MEMBERS
1 IMERE OGBO 1866 – 1867
2 OSUKWU-OGBO 1868 – 1869
3 OKPURUKPU 1870 – 1871
4 AWARAWA 1872 – 1873
5 OWIGBA 1874 – 1875
6 IJII 1876 – 1877
7 IBAGWA 1878 – 1879
8 NNUNU 1880 – 1881
9 AGBA-AKA 1882 – 1883
10 EBULOGWE 1884 – 1885
11 OGBULOR 1886 – 1887
12 OGBOMDI 1888 – 1889
13 ABAAM 1890 – 1891
14 ABRAAM 1892 – 1893
15 OGBOSHOE 1894 – 1895
16 GERMAN 1896 – 1897
17 OKPAMMA 1898 – 1899
18 AWUSA 1900 – 1901
19 WIRE 1902 – 1903
20 IYER 1904 – 1905
21 AKPURUKA 1906 – 1907
22 AFUNEYA 1908 – 1909
23 ABRASS 1910 – 1911
24 OWAJIRI OGBO 1912 – 1913
25 AMERICA 1914 – 1916
26 GOVERNMENT 1917 – 1919
27 LAGOS 1920 – 1922
28 SOLDIER 1922 – 1924
29 IBROGWU 1924 – 1926
30 INDIA 1926 – 1928
31 ELUOYIBO 1928 – 1930
32 EUROPEAN 1930 – 1932
33 NIGERIA 1932 – 1934
34 IBADAN 1934 – 1936
35 FULL POWER 1936 – 1938
36 LONDON 1938 – 1940
37 OMOKU 1940 – 1942
38 ZIK 1942 – 1944
39 FREEDOM 1944 – 1946
40 EKWELA 1946 – 1948
41 GHANA 1948 – 1950
42 NIGER 1950 – 1952
43 WEST AFRICA 1952 – 1954
44 RIVERS STATE 1954 – 1955
45 AFRICA 1956 – 1957
46 NAIRA 1958 – 1959
47 CHINA 1959 – 1960
48 FIGHTER 1960 – 1961
49 DANGER 1961 – 1962
50 CONGO 1963 – 1964
Culture › Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Igboid: 11:09pm On Sep 08, 2016
Use to think that "Oyibo" is just a Northern and Western Igbo usage, well, just found out that Ogba in Rivers state, which should fall under southern Igbo uses "Oyibo" too.

As of 1928, Ogba had an age grade called Elu-Oyibo.

Check it out here: http://ogbakingdom.com/age-grade-2/
Number 31 there.
Culture › Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Igboid: 9:49pm On Sep 08, 2016
lawani:
Abeg shut up. Are Koma people not human beings? How are you better than them? You have no sovereignty over your land, non Igbos gang up to kill you there. In many ways, Koma people are better off than you. Many mumu Igbos say irritating things. The Yoruba have no other word for white man than Oyibo and we have been using it for thousands of years. So how is it possible we learnt it from Igbos who were like the Koma people as at the 19th century? Meaning they were grounded in their villages. They were known mainly to their immediate neighbors only. So how can the only word we have for whiteman have come from Igbos?. I hate deliberate stupidity.

The Japanese civil war that led to the Meiji period was as long if not longer than the Yoruba civil war. It was a war to foster unity.
Oh, look, he not only suffers from delusions of grandeur, he also has anger issues. I see.

Now, listen carefully.

Your Yoruba group were savages, that couldn't evolve to learn simple things as living in peace with one another. You were picked off by Dahomey women and then by Fulanis. Your Oyo ile capital was ransacked by your northern masters and you retreated. more southern. Your mud house village empire lost Ilorin to the Fulanis who subjugated and still rule your people over there till today.
Your Ife arts were no match to Igbo Ukwu ones, you were but a primitive people that know not your place in history. Now let that sink in.

Good, now we can go back to the Oyinbo/ Oyibo discussion. cool
Culture › Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Igboid: 9:28pm On Sep 08, 2016
lawani:
I broke it down for you as the old man did. It is a compound word. Igbos call white people Onye ocha while Yoruba call them Oyibo. You just like unnecessary debate. Igbos in the past were like the Koma people discovered not long ago in Adamawa. They never saw a white man until relatively recently whereas Yorubas have known white people since forever hence the name Oyibo which means those depigmented by the breeze. Yoruba use many Igbo words like Una, fufu and many others but Oyibo is not one of them. A word we have been using for thousands of years!.


Yorubas have been dealing with Europeans for over 500 years, going back and forth between West Africa, Americas and Europe. We have been dealing with Arabs since forever. There were normally Arab residents in Yoruba cities. Yoruba were traders, going to North Africa and etc dressed as Arabs. They dealt with Celts, Tuaregs, Moors and etc. So they were using that word all that time that no single free Igbo was outside Igbo land.

Then we differentiate between Oyibos, Oyibo Geesi is British, Faranse is French, Potogi is Portuguese. Portuguese was spoken well by many Yoruba in the past up till the 19th century. I will say the Germans were the Agudas. Arabs are Larubawa and etc.
Now, this was clearly written by a mind suffering from grandiose delusions.

Yorubas are a funny bunch, they never stop to amaze me with this their claim to civilization.
The same people that couldn't evolve enough to live in Peace with each other, but were busy fighting tribal fights like savages so much that they needed and gladly welcomed the white man to colonize them, if only to bring Peace to their region.
This your post coming from same Yorubas I described above, linking Ndiigbo to Koma tribe is quite comical, and I would advise you thread carefully from here onwards, cause actions often elicit reactions and in a blink of an eye, this thread goes south and end up in tribalism section.
Culture › Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Igboid: 9:19pm On Sep 08, 2016
lawani:
There is nothing like Oyingbo to mean white man in Yoruba vocab. Oyibo is the word but some people misspell it as Oyinbo. The etymology is as explained above. Oyi means air or breeze and bo means peel. Ask any Yoruba around you. Oyingbo is a market in Lagos. Someone said it was a market for honey where people used to bring honey to sell in the past. Honey is Oyin in Yoruba and Oyingbo can mean Everything honey or All honey but I am not sure of the etymology. You can ask the people from there. Just like Alawusa, Ikeja was an Awusa market.
I don't know where you are driving at. I know for certain that Yorubas say Oyinbo and Oyibo.

Oyibo was derived from the word " Onye eboe" and is said to be rooted in slavery.
Oyibo is an an Igbo word. And was not in anyway adopted by Ndiigbo from Yorubas.
I would even argue that Yorubas adopted it from Igbos.

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