₦airaland Forum

attackgat:
It is part of the propaganda the Federal Government initiated after the war in other to silence Biafra. Biafra was made to represent war. Many people, even younger generation Igbos imbibed this false ideology to the extent that just mentioning Biafra, some will say you are calling for war. Remarkably, the Biafran agitation has always been a peaceful thing right from when Ojukwu declared it on 30th May 1967 to this day. Some silly people will say that Ojukwu started the war but when you remind them that it was Nigeria that came down to the East to start fighting, they have nothing to say. It has always been Nigeria that brought violence and war into the issue of Biafra. Not one Biafra agitator has ever been found with arms, but they are the ones who are at the recieving end of bullets of the Nigerian security agencies. Since the year 1999 when Uwazuruike formed MASSOB to this day, nobody has lost their life to Biafran agitators and protesters, but many have been gunned down by the Army and Police. It has always been Nigeria that brings violence and war into the issue of Biafra, all the time.

Spot on.
Though I don't expect Arewaoduanistanis to understand the above.

victorvezx:
Rubbish!!! Who even want to share a country with u yeebos. Who cares if u re law abiding in other regions, Just park ur bags and leave other parts of Nigeria and relocate to ur 5 landlocked erosion ravage Igbo states. Then we will see who will come back to beg for One Nigeria. Yimu, u want to eat ur cake and still have it, it will never happen, ediat.

Lol! This one is obviously pained.

Ndo.

humilitypays:
I am Igbo too, and I also wish the best for Igbo tribe, but truth must be told; Anambra people, especially those from Nnewi are more power-drunk than any other Igbo person.

Go and see what Anambra people have been doing at Trade Fair, ASPAMDA market, Balogun Market, Alaba International market....they take the leadership in those markets as their birthright and no other Igbo indigene is fit to lead there except them. The happenings there alone is something to ponder and worry about the future of Biafran leadership if actualized.


Anambra people maybe acting nonchalant and loyal now that the struggle for Biafra has not been actualized, but I bet you, once it is actualized, Anambra people will rear their heads up to agitate for power.

Like I said, their attitudes in most popular Nigerian markets' leadership is repulsive because they paint the Igbo tribe as disorganized power-drunk people which isn't true.

So these issues are some of the many issues to be raised, discussed and resolved before Biafra is actualized, but if we keep assuming that all is well and that all will go well with Biafra once its actualized, then we are fooling ourselves because we all know that there are many power-drunk people laying silent and waiting for Biafra's freedom to come to enable them come after the leadership tussle, that is the sad truth my brother

Brother. Those are minor squabbles that can always be sorted out.

Its already happening in Nigeria and is worst already here, so it can't get worst in Biafra. In Biafra, it will naturally be sorted out, when true federalism become entrenched into the system.

There are no historical back up to the story of Anambra trying to Lord it over other Igbos. Nri kingdom was not an imperial force, the closest thing to imperialism Ndiigbo encountered from fellow Igbos was from Arochukwu, and Arochukwu is in Abia not Anambra.

Anambra people never lorded it over other Igbos in the Eastern region, cos they voted the Okpara. Anambra people never lorded it over Enugu and Ebonyi people in old Anambra state, cos Both Jim Nwobodo and Nwodo that governed the old Anambra, were not Anambra people, but were still voted by Anambra people.

You are simply projecting your fears into reality. No such thing as Anambra domination.

Nwa afor Igbo. Doing us proud.

obaaderemi:
Cant u see you ve lost this battle?even all ur bros don run comot.dont u worry,u live 2 fight anoda day.pls,enough

What battle? There was no battle to begin with, just same boring stuff that had all been debunked here:https://www.nairaland.com/3327779/what-southwest-contribution-fg-account/6

You don't blame other Igbos for not having the tolerance to engage in a boring argument that had since been trashed out.

Subbway101:
Shut up jor. Were you not part of those " I have mansion everywhere". So you are one malnourished and jobless kid roaming the street cos of poverty. The guy have exposed you and you now changing story. Shame on you.

Lol! Never knew it was this bad for you lots.
You now see pazienza in every Igbo man out to debunk your lies.

humilitypays:
I don't see Biafra becoming that great country we desire, not because Igbos aren't great people, but because the crop of politicians we have in Igbo land now are corrupt, evil, selfish. And no matter what you think, these crop of politicians have the money, the influence, the followers, etc to cause chaos in Biafra should Biafra gain freedom.

If Biafra gets freedom, there will be multiple factions seeking for leadership/power. The Biafran youths will reject this move and this will lead to a very dangerous situation of total breakdown in law and order in Biafra that will likely lead to a very brutal civil war within Biafran states.

Anambra people are more ambitious and power-drunk than any other Igbo state, and Anambra people love dominating others, so if Biafra comes, Anambra people, especially those from Nnewi would want to be in charge of leadership, and other Biafran states will reject this, and this will lead to formation of factions and Biafran government rebels, hence, another deadly war will spring up in Biafra.


If Biafra gets freedom with Niger Delta, and then Southeast refuses to implement total confederation system to enable each Biafra state and region control its resources and remit a certain percentage to the Biafran central government, there will be another civil war and power tussle between Southeastern parts of Biafra and Southsouthern part of Biafra for another secession.

For Biafra to work and become that great nation Biafran youths desire, there should be lots of planning ahead...there should be signed agreements on how the leadership will be, how resources will be managed and the kind of government to be operated ahead, if not, there will be total disaster in Biafra should the freedom come.

Lol!
Different day, same trash.

Anambra people are power drunk and would like to Lord over the Rest of Ndiigbo. Yet. Uwazururike an Imo man was the leader of MASSOB for years and MASSOB had the biggest fellowship in Igboland in Onitsha Anambra state.

Currently the leader of IPOB Nnamdi Kanu is from Abia state, yet Asaba-Onitsha axis is the hottest spot of IPOB membership and agitation, only Aba can come close to Onitsha in this Igbo renaissance March championed by IPOB led by a non Anambra Igbo man.

Currently, the President of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo is from
Ebonyi state, and before him was Uwaechue from Anioma Delta state.

Michael Okpara reigned all over the Eastern region and was loved by all, he never for once was antagonize by Anambrarians.

Jim Nwobodo from Nkanu area in present Enugu state was the governor of Old Anambra state, and was never for once castigated by Ndi Anambra, he was loved all over the area.

The Anambra man might be a proud man, driven by desire for success and need to be the best amongst equals but when it comes to Igbo nationalism, no other Igbo man can surpass the Anambra man patriotism to the Igbo nation.


This is why I hate it when non Igbos start dabbling into Igbo affairs. Ndiigbo are not Yorubas that were all fighting each other. The delicate art of Peace and conflict resolution through dialogues and negotiations is an art our ancestors had relatively mastered centuries ago.

It will serve us well in Biafra.

hundredhunndred:
Pazienza, the loudmouthed osu that promise to leave nairaland and make it crumble, so you had to hide behind a new handle cos of shame. Lolzzz. I saw your pics the other day and had to pity you. Chaii

Keep shouting Pazienza all over the place. Dude never claimed to be Mr handsome or Bill Gates.
Had always maintained that he is an average looking Igbo man hustling on the streets of Enugu to make an honest living like the other millions of Igbo people out there.

Why exactly you are sniffing at his pics and life Data can only be psychoanalysed as a manifestation of psychotic disorder.

RockHard:
Dude, nobody gives a flying Bleep about how much money circulates in the SE quite frankly, because at the end of the day who e don epp? Upon your circulating money, your region is still the least productive (the ONLY viable vocation in the entire SE is TRADING -- FACT -- but even that is no longer as viable as it once was -- http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/06/rivers-state-others-have-overtaken-s-east-in-commerce-industry/ ), it is the least contributor to the national commonwealth, attracts the least FDI (www.businessdayonline.com/2015/02/ogun-ikeja-top-manufacturers-investment-destinations-in-2014), witnesses more brain-drain than any other, is the least populated in the country with her indigenes emigrating at the slightest opportunity, YET for whatever reasons best known to you, you feel this gives you some sort of bragging right?? Like seriously? If the SE was such an economically viable region, it would speak in her GDP (no single SE state appears on the top 10 list of Nigerians states GDP), her FDI, it would be one of the choice destinations of other Nigerians seeking better prospects. It's the same reason your successful businessmen (who for the most part made their millions outside Igboland, and who can blame them? They know where the real market and spending power is. Ask the foreigners shunning the region, Obi Jackson and the rest of 'em Heck, they all have access to the same data we all do and as real business men they gotta follow the money ) have to be CAJOLED and literally BEGGED to return home and invest . Dude, I can't fault your passion for your people/region, but there comes a time when you gotta tell yourself the naked truth. Your hype only exists in your deluded mind. Get over yourself already.

Was really expecting a better reply. I guess I was stupid for thinking you can provide any, other than the same falsehoods that had been debunked over and over again here.

Dude, you are boring.

OmoAjowa7:
Hehehe so these chitgbos are still on my lovely thread ?

Thread wey I don finish work on.

One is showing us bank deposits, the other one is telling us nonsense about Osun state gangsta style. Otolo boy

WHAT HAS THAT GOT TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT THE SE IS USELESS AND THAT THE SW IS THE MOST IMPORTANT REGION AFTER THE SS

I'm talking A, mo4os are talking Z

I've said it before. If any of you can refute what I have up there, tag me and lets ball

Na small tchin

Lol! Actually, all the trash and jargons on your thread had been roundly and well eviscerated time and time again. Though I understand why it's important you keep holding unto them, if only to safe face.

hinohsend:
Guy, the southwest has the lowest poverty rate in the nation, while easterners are the poorest in the south.

The UN, WorldBank & NBS have all confirmed it. EOD! Go and sleep joor.

Lol! Keep deceiving yourselves. Just as you deceived yourselves into believing that you are leading in education in Nigeria, until JAMB, NECO, WAEC, Unity school stats started slapping the lying demons out of you lots left and right.

RockHard:
Now it's obvious you're one hell of an ignorant fellow. First of all Enugu is a practically DEAD state economically -- FACT. What commercial activity goes on there to warrant such wild assertion about its consumer spending? Absolutely NONE. As for Onitsha, Twistaray already captioned the logic behind whatever money flows in that tiny market city when he said, I repeat:





Obi Jackson (An Anambra indigene), a shareholder in S.A-based Smile Communications, chose to launch and introduce the Nigerian branch of the ISP in Ibadan in 2013. Why not Onitsha? Smile didn't launch in Onitsha until March of this year 2016. The reason for that decision is very simple -- spending power, and because numbers don't lie. The following thread sums it up.

https://www.nairaland.com/3114368/nigerian-states-number-registered-phone

Are you dumb or what? Obijackson can choose to site his business anywhere he likes. We have Igbo businesses in Cameroon, China, Kano, etc, you can as well ask me why not Onitsha? It's all business, there Igbos who site theirs in Igboland and those who site theirs at outside Igboland. Each to his own.

Your analysis on money flow in the East is at best silly and lacking in basic understanding for me to even bother replying it.

What do Yorubas do with their own money during transactions? They don't deposit them at banks? They carry them on their waists?
Listen, there are more money in Circulation in the East because most businesses in the East are indigenous businesses. Unlike those in Lagos and Ogun axis which are mainly multinationals, who drain Yorubaland of money and remit home as profits, the businesses in the East are indigenous mainly, the money they generate are reinvested into the system in East, enabling saturation of the Eastern money circulation.

He said that the consumption of rice in the
country was rising and that a lot of people were
not aware that the rice had some degree of
arsenic.
The minister said that consuming rice in large
quantity on a regular basis was a bit of health
risk, adding that substituting it with potato
would be welcomed development.


Lol! Comedians everywhere in this colonial entity.

RockHard:
Hahahaha. You are such a joker. Just because her conclusions don't tally with yours you are throwing a fit? Grow up Mr. Unfortunately for you, she has some authority while you on the hand are ..well.. a Mr. Nobody. Is it the same Onitsha where the Shoprite there was reportedly idling away and experiencing low patronage due to low spending power that you are hyping here? Continue deluding yourself because you seem to be the only person buying your own hype o. lol. Atleast Onitsha even has a market to take save face small, abeg what does Enugu have to justify this your persistent hype? I know it's too much for your ego to accept, but comparing the SouthWest to your region is akin to comparing sleep to death. Move on jo. Real talk.

Why must Onitsha people patronize Shoprite who would probable repatriate most of their profit back home to SA, depleting the money in Circulation in Onitsha, when Onitsha people have ready made big markets where they can buy all that shoprite offers at cheaper price and whatsmore, the money stays within Anambra and is gradually circulated to trickle down to everyone.

I see nothing wrong with the above scenario as I don't really know if Shoprite Onitsha is really failing. Shoprite in Enugu is doing well though.

Henrydone:
You lack basic education consumer spending has a sharp influence on economy,if you read the information directly from the e-article of the Euromonitor,they simply implies fast developing cities

Well, it so happens that Enugu has more money in Circulation than Oyo state. So, what does that say about your useless economium stats?

Exactly, it only corroborates the fact that Oyo is lagging behind Enugu, and is moving fast to catch up with Enugu. If she is lucky enough, she might catch Enugu in the year of our lord 2150.

Henrydone:
So Enugu and Onitsha has more money flow than Ibadan see this nairaland ehhh nothing person no go hear finish

Ofcourse, Enugu and Onitsha has more money flowing in them than Ibadan.

Stats don't lie. Banks move with cash flow:

Bank Deposit by states in Nigeria

From the report bank deposit by states in Southeast from 2010-2015

Bank deposit in Anambra state #1'844'434.75
Bank Credit # 258'716.37
Balance #1'585'718.38

Bank deposit in Enugu #1'651'741.09
Bank credit #370'012.75
Balance #1'281'728.59

Bank deposit in Imo # 936'606.57
bank credit #218'853.32
Balance #717'753.35

Bank deposit in Abia from #1'031'355.42
bank credit #391'675.25
Balance 639'580.17

Bank deposit in Ebonyi #330'841.52
bank credit #93'627.5
balance 237'214.02

Southeast total balance from 2010-2015 #4'461'997.51


From the report bank deposit by states in Southwest from 2010-2015 excluding nation commercial center

Bank deposit in Oyo #1'617'678.48
bank credit #598'298.6
Balance #1'019'379.88

Bank deposit in Ogun #1'204'873.59
bank credit # 558'073.3
Balance # 649'800.29

Bank deposit in Ondo #821'901.84
credit #306'621.05
Balance #515'280.79

Bank deposit in Osun #648'726.72
credit #417'073.72
Balance #231'653.05

Bank deposit in Ekiti #301'136.23
credit #123,254.46
Balance #177,881.77

South west total balance from 2010-2015 #2'593'995.78

Infact, go through Sonnie10 and kennydoc posts here for reformating of your ewedu clogged brain cells:
https://www.nairaland.com/3102772/onitsha-ranked-most-polluted-city/6
I'm tired of repeating myself.

Henrydone:
The pollution stat was done by the world health organization,and your is done by Rockefel........ hmmmm.. Finish that .

You are a jellyfish. Only SE cities were taken into consideration in that report.

[b] NATIONAL BUREAU OF STATISTICS 2010-2015BANK CREDIT AND DEPOSIT BY STATES IN NIGERIABank credit/deposit in each state may be used as an indicator of the level of activity and well being of operators (households and businesses) in a particular state as it shows what residents are borrowing and the amount deposit in banks
http://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/report/384

Bank Deposit by states in Nigeria

From the report bank deposit by states in Southeast from 2010-2015

Bank deposit in Anambra state #1'844'434.75
Bank Credit # 258'716.37
Balance #1'585'718.38

Bank deposit in Enugu #1'651'741.09
Bank credit #370'012.75
Balance #1'281'728.59

Bank deposit in Imo # 936'606.57
bank credit #218'853.32
Balance #717'753.35

Bank deposit in Abia from #1'031'355.42
bank credit #391'675.25
Balance 639'580.17

Bank deposit in Ebonyi #330'841.52
bank credit #93'627.5
balance 237'214.02

Southeast total balance from 2010-2015 #4'461'997.51


From the report bank deposit by states in Southwest from 2010-2015 excluding nation commercial center

Bank deposit in Oyo #1'617'678.48
bank credit #598'298.6
Balance #1'019'379.88

Bank deposit in Ogun #1'204'873.59
bank credit # 558'073.3
Balance # 649'800.29

Bank deposit in Ondo #821'901.84
credit #306'621.05
Balance #515'280.79

Bank deposit in Osun #648'726.72
credit #417'073.72
Balance #231'653.05

Bank deposit in Ekiti #301'136.23
credit #123,254.46
Balance #177,881.77

South west total balance from 2010-2015 #2'593'995.78 [/b]

Moreover, that Euromonitor article was talking about "Fastest growing sub Saharan African cities in terms of CONSUMER SPENDING".
Not fastest growing economy or infrastructurally speaking.

But even at that, that it's stat is debatable as had been clarified here: https://www.nairaland.com/3294626/abuja-ibadan-port-harcourt-make-euromonitor/5

Henrydone:
Euromonitor ranks Ibadan as the 2nd most fast developing city in Nigeria and 5th in Africa.You are there shouting Enugu

Lol! If we are on a race to Onitsha from Abakaliki, and I am already at Enugu city, but decided to start strolling, but you are still in Ebonyi but running towards Enugu.

That you are running faster than me is the truth, but it's also true that you are still lagging behind me, despite your speed.

Ibadan is running very fast to catch up to Enugu, but in truth, it's still lagging way behind Enugu.
https://www.nairaland.com/2031155/enugu-makes-history-joins-worlds

totit:
Ibos are only in lagos, every other yoruba land na brown roof

See ibos in osun



Yeye dey smell

Meaning what. There are money to make even in Brown roof lands, I'm sure few Igbos still fancy their chances there.

Here is an Igbo community in poor Gambia: http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/article/2008/9/24/igbos-inaugurate-yicmic

Henrydone:
What your point,Enugu with a low population ranks among the most polluted cities and Lagos and Ibadan with a very high population don't rank,that obviously implies that you guys in southeast lacks environmental managerial competency,you can only make noise like empty vessels

Lol!
Take your complaints to Rockefeller foundation or to those that ranked Lagos one of the worst cities to inhabit in the world. Maybe they might finally remove Enugu and replace it with your dirty brown roof towns in SW like Ibadan.


https://www.nairaland.com/2031155/enugu-makes-history-joins-worlds



http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/08/19/lagos-ranked-worlds-third-worst-city-to-live-in/

Henrydone:
Your region dirtiness is taking international recognition,you're here twisting fact

Onitsha is the most polluted city in Africa that fact is irrepressible

Ngwa, take am!
https://www.nairaland.com/2031155/enugu-makes-history-joins-worlds


Yes! This is how we roll. Anyi ada asi ndo.

PETUK:
Great minds listen to lyrics while shallow mind like you talk about beat

"They say you like Wahala, I get wahala" - Tekno

PETUK, the great Einstein of our time. I salute you. Meanwhile, where are your theories, laws, inventions and ground breaking scientific discoveries?

Go and sit down, Diokpa. My choice of music is no concern of yours. Face your front biko.

Henrydone:
It has a lot to do with infrastructure,can't you understand infrastructure support an organization,pollution causes harm

Abeokuta

If as polluted as East is according to your stats, Enugu still made the top 100 resilient city list. What does that say of your Brown roof mud house infested region?

Lol! No need posting the bests of East here, it will be unnecessary waste of web space.

If you are interested in exploring to see how rural and Urban Eastern neighborhoods look like, this is it here:https://www.nairaland.com/2576371/eastern-neighbourhoods-streets-made/30

Happy viewing.

However, the WHO also said on Wednesday that the pollution data from Onitsha was not necessarily reliable because it came from a single monitoring station.

“It is difficult to get accurate measurements in Africa. You can get super-high readings, but ideally the measurements should be done over a year to include different seasons and times of day. The reading in Onitsha may be representative but not altogether reliable,” said a WHO spokeswoman.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/12/which-are-the-worlds-two-most-polluted-cities-and-why


Anyway, the above is from the WHO on the so called polluted cities stat.

Henrydone:
Yeboos land never match yorland
1.Eko akete
2.Ibadan Oluyole
3.Akure oyemekun

Still no match to this:

https://www.nairaland.com/2576371/eastern-neighbourhoods-streets-made/30
https://www.nairaland.com/2031155/enugu-makes-history-joins-worlds

I guess you needed to take your Pollution stats to Rockefeller organization that handle the resilience city challenge, to add your Brown roof mud house infested enclaves into the prestigious resilience cities list.

Henrydone:
See this

Lol!

What does that have to do with infrastructures?

See this:

http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/08/19/lagos-ranked-worlds-third-worst-city-to-live-in/