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I think Oyibo means "relating to Whiteman" in Igboland. Not just foreign. And mind you, to an average Igboman, foreign means " non black". Aki Oyibo- White man's Aki( Palm kernel) Obodo Oyibo- White man's town. Also white man's country in broader sense. * Obodo Oyibo in southern Igboland = Ala Bekee. Oyibo- White man's language. Eg o na-asu Oyibo ( He speaks White man's language. Just we might say, o na asu Igbo( He speaks Igbo ) But when it comes to the white man himself, he is addressed as " Onye ocha" or "Bekee" . Either way, Ndiigbo never borrowed the word "Oyibo" from the Yorubas, moreover, what Yorubas use is "Oyinbo" or Oyingbo", and nit Oyibo. Oyibo is of Igbo origin. Oyinbo/Oyingbo is of Yoruba origin. |
Abagworo:Thought Amaechi is from Ubima and not Igwuruta. |
More on Erosion from sophisticated lands of Odua: http://allafrica.com/stories/201211080652.html http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/01/erosion-renders-20-families-homeless-in-ogun/ http://thenationonlineng.net/photo-ibadans-menace-of-erosion/
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ArmedRobber:See the difference here: https://www.nairaland.com/2499845/sophisticated-erosion-menace-sw-published |
Tokt:You are senseless, as to be expected from an Afonja. I don't blame you, I blame those who carved Obigbo out from Aba division into Rivers state just to exploit the people's oil wealth for their wicked and selfish purposes. |
franchizy:There is no Igbo clan called Oyigbo/ Obigbo Oyigbo is just the name of a local government. The inhabitants of Oyigbo LGA are members of Asa and Ndoki tribes of Igbo ethnic group. The majority of Asa and Ndoki people are in Ukwa West and Ukwa East LGAs of Abia state respectively. Ikwerres are no brothers to Asa and Ndoki people. The most related Igbo group to Asa and Ndoki are the Ngwa people and not Ikwerre. |
Tokt:You must be mad. Does the derivation fund from Oyigbo 22,000bpod supply of crude oil go to Abia state government? How much crude oil does the entire Ikwerre 3 LGAs contribute to Rivers state derivation formula that everything seem to be built in Ikwerreland in Rivers state? |
joeprince23:It's a pity. Every thing is siphoned to develop Obio Akpor, while Oyigbo suffers in neglect. Tommorow, the Ikwerres will start singing about how Ndiigbo marginalized them. But what is going on in Oyigbo right now is bad. Oyigbo has like 30 crude oil wells and produce up to 22,000bopd yet has nothing to show for it. This is similar to the same cries of Ohaji/ Egbema people in Imo state, where everything seem to be concentrated in Owerre for the Orattas, while Ohaji/ Egbema region that earns Imo some money from it's crude oil, is grossly neglected. This true federalism we are speaking of is not just about Abuja, but it must reach the grassroots. The natives of the lands must control their resources at village and even individual level and not at state level. This is the way to go. |
Oyigbo LGA produce lots of crude oil, yet has been abandoned by Rivers state government to rot. All Rivers governors do is develop Obio Akpor LGA more and More, even though Oyiigbo produce enormous quantities of crude oil, she hardly benefits from it. |
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ChinenyeN:Lol! It's a free world out there, you get treated the way you present yourself. What exactly are you rambling about? It is you who know not your limit. You are Ngwa and not an Ikwerre, so maybe it's time you stick to your Ngwa history. I have never seen Ikwerre people spell that word as "Iwhenerneohna", you are the ignorant one who feigns knowledge,which is all too comical to see, but even at that it all suits the whole point of this discussion. Once one start tampering with and distorting the history of his people, ignorant peeps will also come in to help them tamper it into a subject of mockery. Hence a simple word such has "Ihu- Oha", underwent distortions that went through Ihru- Oha, IhuruOha, Ihnruohna, Iwhnruohna, and now the latest in town, Iwhenerneohna. It's all a comic relief, and one can't help seeing it as such. |
Afam4eva:Nnamani,Nnamene, Nnamoko, Onovo, Ogbodo. All typical Nkanu names. Learnt that Nnamani means that the bearer of the name, is a reincarnation of the father's father, ie the bearer's grandfather, who happened to be know as "Ani" during his time on Earth. Nnamani- My father Ani has reincarnated Nnamoko- My father Oko has reincarnated Nnamene- My father Ene has reincarnated. That what my Akpu-ugo Friend told me. The guy doesn't know the meaning of Ogbodo or Onovo. |
Enugu- Ogbodo, Onovo, Ohayi. Abia- Ukweni, Ojo, Ofong |
Aldrick, this Ikwerre guy again. I know you are only looking for these names to use against Ndiigbo. |
ChinenyeN:Lol! This one has come up with a new one. "IWEHERNEOHNA" . This can't get funnier. No one is shaming Ikwerre people, they are doing a better job of shaming themselves with their childish irrational distortions of their history. We reserve every right to enjoy the entertainment they are providing us free of charge. |
OdenigboAroli:There is no possible way those people had not twisted that word in futile attempts at making it sound non Igbo. Iwhnruohna, Iwhuruoha, Ihnuronhna, Ihnurunhnah, etc. It's really pathetic. |
Ekpeye people just finished celebrating the death of Igbudu and his gang not long ago, now this one is happening. What exactly did Ekpeye land do that she just seem never to have peace. |
Opobo wasn't influenced by Igbos. Opobo was a virgin land that was founded by an Igbo speaking jaja, his Ijaw followers and many Igbo slaves that he had at his disposal. It became Igbo from the very beginning, it wasn't influenced by Igbo. Ikwerre were not surrounded by a large Igbo nation, as of the time Ikwerre claimed the Igbos influenced their original Bini language into Igbo, which should be before the coming of the colonials, as their was no concept of Igbo nation as of then. Rather Ikwerre was surrounded by small tribes like Ndoki, Ohaji/ Egbema, and Ekpeye , Okrika, who all spoke their own respective languages, and these groups are all smaller than Ikwerre and shouldn't be expected to change Ikwerre edoic language entirely with no trace of Edo words, because smaller groups like udekeme( Degema) , Abua and Epie in the region, who spoke edoid languages still retained their edoid languages even till today. There is no way Ikwerre concocted Bini origin falsehood can survive once put under the microscope of rational scrutiny, cos the story is blatant lie and insult to any rational brain out there. |
You are clutching at straws here. Onitsha is a fully integrated Igbo town. The royal stool of Onitsha does not deny its Igbo heritage, they suffer no identity crisis. Even at that, we can see traces of Bini culture in Onitsha, a testament to the fact that Eze Chima, their Igbo progenitor once resided in Bini. Onitsha copied the Bini monarchical system of government, Ikwerre until during colonial era had no Monarchies, Ezeship in Ikwerre land is a vestige of colonial warrant chief system of government introduced by the British in all Igboland. Onitsha has few ancient Bini words like Iyase, aigbogidi, to show that the people actually once resided in Bini in the time past, even some of Onitsha masquerades are known to speak ancient Igala as its language, a testament to the incorporation of Igala migrants into an Igbo speaking Onitsha in time past. Ikwerre has no single Bini words in it's language, none whatsoever. Onitsha has always been Igbo speaking and do not pretend to have ever spoken any other language since antiquity other than their current Igbo dialect, Ikwerre on the other hand claims to have been Bini speakers whose contact with Igbo people changed their language. But from the example of yoruboid speaking communities of Odiani in Aniocha who migrated from Yorubaland into Western Igboland, we know that it's impossible for a group not colonized by her bigger but different language speaking neighbors to lose her language totally and replace that with those of the neighbors, without any trace of the group's original language. You couldn't have picked a worst example to support your Ikwerr. shameful Bini origin concocted story than Onitsha. |
waternogetenemy:Surely, flesh or man didn't reveal this to you. ![]() Encrypted message well decrypted. |
I'd like you to think outside the box, reason away from the norm and make your personal inference. If you Afam, have cause to run away from your village with your wife and brother and settle in an an area which you are bordered almost on all sides by Hausas, in area where you are outnumbered 100 to 1 after some centuries, you may have lost all your native tongue and customs and have taken the one of your immediate community. Scholars will have a hard time dealing with the oral history as told by your future generation. Another pile of faeces. Ikwerres were not the only group that had Igbos as neighbors in Eastern region. The Ogonis have Igbos as neighbors too, and they are even smaller than Ikwerre. They traded with Ndiigbo too, and intermarried with us. But Ogoni language and culture remain distinct from those of Ndiigbo today. We even have the Odiani people in Aniocha, as a living evidence that being surrounded by people who speak a different language from you can affect you, but not so much that there wouldn't be evidence of a dead or a dying language, as Odiani people still have their Yoruboid language with them, which they currently speak together with the Igbo language they borrowed from their Igbo speaking neighbors, making them bilingual. Mind you, unlike Odiani, Ikwerre is not surrounded entirely by Ndiigbo, they also share boundaries with the Ogonis and the Okirika people. No where in history does a group of people who were never colonized lose their language completely with no evidence of a dead language whatsoever. The theory of Ikwerre losing her bini language entirely to Igbo language because of proximity to Igboland and trade/ marital interactions with Ndiigbo is a falsehood that can be never stand the scrutiny of rationality. |
[b] If only Ikwerre Igbo denial can stand on its own, if only Ikwerres can boldly come out and say: " See it's true we previously , wholeheartedly and without compulsion or subjugation were Igbos and truly accepted the Igbo tag, we nolonger wish to be Igbos from 1970 onwards due to some events we wish not to dabble into now, It is our personal and group conviction that the interests of our people, which includes our political and Economic interests, are currently better protected in a distinct new ethnic group away from our parent Igbo body. We wish that our Igbo brothers accept and respect this our new conviction and stance." There won't be problems. The problem is that Ikwerre see it as a necessity to doctor Igbo history, which they were part of, and to assassinate the Igbo image, as a means of establishing their new found ethnic group. And this is why there will continue to be this argument over and over again, with all the animosity attached and even hatred creeping in from both camps. I had highlighted some of the bold face lies and falsehoods upon which current Ikwerre identity denial were built upon, which the average Igbo man would always refute and tear to shreds violently. And because the very foundation of Ikwerre quest for distinct identity is built on those lies, it becomes near impossible for an Igbo to refute those lies, without it appearing like he is attacking the Ikwerre quest for distinct identity. This creates an illusion of the Igbo forcing Ikwerre to be part of the Igbo nation in the eyes of the ignorant onlookers not knowledgeable on the underlying issues in discourse. When in actuality, the average Igbo don't give a rat ass over whatever identity the Ikwerre had chosen for himself,as such matters are trivial and inconsequential in the larger scheme of things for the Igbo nation. [/b] |
In essence, most Igbos have not and may not come to terms with the reality of the separate existence of brotherly ethnicities. The reason im saying this is this present generation of Igbos have only learned that Ikwerres some decades ago were believed to be Igbos, they did not witness anything, they only read it in history books and have decided to continue to refer to Ikwerres and other Igboid ethnicities as Igbos wether those ethnicities liked it or not. Trash! Are you saying that the history books are wrong, that all documented colonial and post colonial evidence of the Fact that Ikwerres like neighboring groups such as Asa, NdokiOgba, Anioma, Ngwa, Oratta, Etche were classified as Ibos and that Ikwerre elders never saw any problem with that then, as they saw themselves as one people with these neighbors, should all be discarded and erased from our memories. That we should not continue reminding Ikwerres people that their Igbo denial started right after the civil war and never before? You must be joking. I don't think any Igbo has any problem with Ikwerres Igbo denial, what we have problem with is the distortion of shared history and concoction of absurd falsehoods as history and the need to paint the Igbo as the villain in other to sell these new absurd histories as championed by Elechi Amadi. This is the Igbo point of view that we will never change. And Yes, Ikwerres Will always be rightly reminded by Ndiigbo and even by other Nigerians when it serves their purpose, that Ikwerre Igbo denial started Post civil war. |
Nice topic. But who took this thread to cultural section? This is more like a political discussion as one of the comments on the Facebook page accurately pinpointed. Etche is Culturally Igbo, Etched is Linguistically Igbo, but Etche is not politically Igbo. This is a political discussion, and should be moved to political section for appropriate breakdown and steps to politically re align Etche to Igbo analysed. |
KevinDein:Good. That should tell them the amount of love you have for them, and a cue for them to try their luck in other 53 African countries. Igboland will not continue sharing a backward country with alien Yorubas and their Islamic Northern brothers just so that few Igbos in Yorubaland and North could continue living there. Its best they return home with their investments, the population and capital flow will be used to put our new nation on the right track. |
kestolove95:You are not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree, are you? Biafrans left your Arewa Odua republic for you in 1967, we left your zoological towns and cities, but that didn't stop your blood thirsty fore runners from marching down to our borders flying the Nigerian flag, forcing your zoological colonial entity down our throats in war front and in genocidal proportions. |
kestolove95:And those Nigerians living in Ghana, USA, Britain etc are there because those places are part of Nigeria? You need your head examined. Igbos residing in North or Yorubaland does not in anyway mean that Igboland is part of your Arewa Odua republic or that we want to share a nation with you lots. |
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[quote author=Flyingngel post=47817124][/quote]Slayersupreme nwanne. I think Flyingngel is a real man. faced with facts he sheathed his sword. Let's not create an enemy out of a possible Friend. I don't get any Igbo phobic vibes from him. Of a truth, the AkwaCross people are the closest thing to allies the Igboman can dream of in Nigeria. |
Deadlytruth:Just seeing this now. Awo was not safe in the Western region with whole struggle he had going on with Akintola. East was the safest place for him. Ojukwu released Awolowo from Calabar prisons, but Awolowo won't truly be home if the North didn't sanction the release , as Yorubaland was under Northern occupation. Ultimately, Awo release depended on Ojukwu who had control of the East. If he had wanted, Awolowo would remain in prison until the federal forces captured Calabar. Yes Ojukwu released Awolowo with intent to woo him to Biafra side, the North wanted Awo released to woo him to their own side too. I see no contradiction in my post. Now I don't know why you were jumping all over the place in my absence, you can come down your cloud 9 now, I'm here to put you and your inconsequential ethnic group exactly where you both belong. I see that xtrose my brother already have you cornered, so much that you are now assigning esoteric powers to him. |
Deadlytruth:Really? How exactly did I contradict myself? There was no releasing Awolowo without Ojukwu's permission, that remains my stance on the issue. Exited this thread after the Yoruba mod banned this my moniker, my crime being violation of rule 9. |
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