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rottennaija:
Which sea? Which right? You don't have sea in South East?

What is the name of your ethnic group. Let's start from there.

https://www.nairaland.com/652704/how-east-feed-itself-without/10#up

Good topic on how helpful Igbo massive, highly educated, resourceful and most of all patriotic diaspora population would ensure Republic of Biafra economic Viability, growth, development and sustainability post Biafran independence from Nigeria.
Biafran government task would simply be to provide welcoming environment and logistics support to these resourceful Diaspora Igbos to come home and transfer their skills to Biafra and help build her up into first world status like returning Jews did for Israel in 1948.

horsepower102:
I wish there was an alternative to IPOB that is strictly for Igboland republic.

Nnamdi Kanu’s involvement of non igbos in his IPOB movement has remained the biggest setback for that organization.

I think that the monopoly that Nnamdi Kanu’s IPOB enjoys today needs to be seriously challenged.

IPOB inclusive BIAFRA with minorities have given some people the misguided sense of entitlement that Igboland is not good to go without them.
An Igbo only Biafra agitation is needed to balance the narrative and puncture a lot of people senseless ego.
So yes,I get your point.

Collyweed:
Nwanne, there is no point in talking about this here, maka ndi anya ufu.[/I]

In any case [i]Chukwu ekwela ka we would have to depend on primary resources alone to build Alaigbo. Actually, the less we have the better, to better avoid another "resource curse" situation. We need to avoid another heterogeneous mish-mash cursed by a wasting resource by all means.

Nwanne. Our enemies already know all the above.
They know we are better off without NIGERIA which is why they try to keep us in Nigeria.
These people are naturally Igbophobic. If for any reason they believe Biafra would be a failure where we would gnash our teeth and beg them for crumbs, nwanne, these people would have sent us packing out of NIGERIA.

So basically, there is nothing to hide under the sun here.
The purpose of my post is to make Ndiigbo to see more reasons why Igbo only Biafra is more than Viable than NIGERIA itself and why they should not allow themselves be manipulated into becoming fifth columnists in Igboland by our detractors because they fear that Igboland might suffer outside NIGERIA.

Every available analysis would show that Igboland would be more than economically viable and rewarding if we leave Nigeria without the Minorities and Biniphilic Igbophobic Igboids in SS.
We are more than good to go.

budaatum:
You said, "figures"


But I see none for this:

You are obviously blind if you don't see the figures.
Lol!

Disadvantages:

Really none than we are currently facing or have faced in Nigeria.

1. Loss of property and investments in Nigeria?
We already witnessed this in 1970 and continue to witness it everyday in Nigeria as our property and investments get usually burnt down during riots.
Biafran government would be better positioned to fight against Igbophobic neighbors destroying Igbo property and investments than current Nigerian government can ever be.



2. Food from the North? We can develop our own high tech agricultural system well financed by the Biafran government using our highly skilled diaspora population Manning these agricultural programs in developed countries.
On the short-term, we import from Cameroon if need be. ;
Or simply wean ourselves off Northern sourced foods. I'm aware that all ingredients needed to cook a traditional Igbo soup are all grown and sourced in Igboland.

3. Electricity shortage from dams in the North?
We are sitting on ridiculous Natural gas supply. And we would have Afam power plant in Obiigbo. We would just build numerous gas powered plants as we like and we still have coal in Enugu to handle too.

So basically speaking no real disadvantage to having Biafra.

Look at the advantages:

1.We would have an income to start off the country with, thanks to our onshore oil Wells that Nigerians forgot to carve into Delta or Rivers State because those places were not oil producing as of 1970. It was God who fought for us.

2. With more intense exploration in Anambra: Ogbaru, Anambra East, Anambra West, Ayamelum and even Ihiala.
Abia: Ugwunagbo, Ukwa West, Ukwa West.
Imo: ,Oguta,Ohaji/Egbema we would discover more oil Wells to offset any deficit decrease in allocations we might temporary encounter.

3. With our vast undeveloped huge natural gas reserves in Imo, Anambra and Abia fully developed, our income and forex would quadruple.
Remember Natural gas being a green energy and not crude oil is the future.

4. A fully functional international airport. Our people being a well travelled people with embassies and consulates of all countries of the world opening branches in ENUGU our capital City. Our revenue generated can only go up.

5. A massive diaspora population who would send funds in Mass at home out of patriotism and work with the Igbo government to transfer skill back home, our ceiling should be very high.

6. Fulanis routed and sent out of our forests. We can leverage on first class diaspora experience and expertise to build a high tech agricultural system that would not only ensure food security for us, but also yield forex in form of processed agricultural products exports. https://www.nairaland.com/652704/how-east-feed-itself-without/10#up

7. A rapid rise in real estate in Alaigbo to accommodate our people who would return home from across all parts of Nigeria.

Interesting.
What this shows is that Igbo republic is much viable without Minorities.
Once we get our Igbo people in Obiigbo and Egbema on board and get Enuani on board. We offset the Deficit in FG allocation immediately.
And we would still be sitting on gargantuan untapped natural gas reserves in Abia, Imo and Anambra to extract and even add more to our revenue generation. Oil exploration in SE has even been very poor. In BIAFRA we would intensify the effort in crude oil potentials of LGAs like Ugwunagbo and Ukwa East in Abia that have shown big promise, in Ohaji and Oguta LGAs of Imo, in Ogbaru, Anambra East, ANAMBRA west, and Ayamelum of Anambra, etc.
I'm sure we would find enough to quickly get more than we are currently getting from FG.

With an international airport of our own, more forex poured into the country by our humongous and resourceful diaspora population. Omo!
Biafra is very very viable without Minorities.
With Fulani herdsmen rounded up and sent to MALI, we can finally revolutionize our agricultural sector form of high tech agricultural system like they have in Netherlands and even earn more revenue. And we haven't even started talking of the skill capacity of Aba and industrial capacity of Nnewi. Innoson can be given all the support and power to become a truly global leading brand in technology. They can even be helped to diversify to other home electronics like refrigerators, TV, etc. Improving our balance of trade in the process as we would import less things from outside Igboland, ensuring a very strong Biafra pounds.

The potentials of independent republic of Igboland, aka Biafra is mind-blowing.

Someone should show IPOB and co this.

This thread was inspired by the above post on this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/6569352/reply-ndume-north-obviously-parasite

The calculation showed that even with careful stripping of oil producing areas from SE and identity Crisis instigated there by FG and Igbophobic entities in Nigeria post civil war.
Igboland even if only consisting of SE and proudly Igbo groups in SS ie( Obiigbo, Egbema, and Enu-ani, Igbo in Benue and Isobo in Cross River) would still be very very much economically viable and would not lack in revenues to atleast be in same level as we are currently under NIGERIA.

Workch:
I usually do not make posts on nairaland politics section but I have to address this charade of Senator Ndume as regards undermining the the contributions of southeast in Nigeria. I’m going to do this with Figures vis-à-vis the figures come north to show that northerners are conning people into staying in Nigeria, which is obviously failing.

Oil revenue and other
In 2017, the NBS released oil revenue figures of all Nigerian oil producing states which totals 32billion USD, assuming that we share the sentiment of subtly dissociating igbos in southsouth from their counterparts in Southeast, IMO and Abia combined accounted for 1.7% of this revenue, 1.7% of 32billion is 544million USD. It means that Imo and Abia brought 544million USD to Nigeria in 2017.

In this same year, southeast states received a total federal allocation of 152.9billion which is 459.1million USD using 333per dollar rate as it was obtainable in 2017.

Imo and Abia alone made 544million USD, this figure indicates that south east actually generated their own federal allocation. This cannot be said about the north’s humongous allocation, they feed from other south southern states


This will help create a picture to help you see who steals from who? Southeast earned every allocation they get, north steals from southsouth.
This is clearly seen as the total revenue generated in 2017, 65% of this was from oil while a substantial remaining Came from Lagos ports and business which igbos also contributed a large stake in terms of Importations of goods and federal taxes. Northerners don’t do importation a lot and they don’t have business paying taxes a lot.

We can hardly see the contribution of the northern states and their people here vis-à-vis the amount they get in term of allocations.


I am not an Igbo guy but it’s totally irrational to think that north is not the parasite here. They never earn whatever they get in Nigeria.

As matter of fact, aside Lagos and maybe ogun state and the oil producing states, other states include all 19northern states are parasites. None of them earn whatever they get.

Workch:
I usually do not make posts on nairaland politics section but I have to address this charade of Senator Ndume as regards undermining the the contributions of southeast in Nigeria. I’m going to do this with Figures vis-à-vis the figures come north to show that northerners are conning people into staying in Nigeria, which is obviously failing.

Oil revenue and other
In 2017, the NBS released oil revenue figures of all Nigerian oil producing states which totals 32billion USD, assuming that we share the sentiment of subtly dissociating igbos in southsouth from their counterparts in Southeast, IMO and Abia combined accounted for 1.7% of this revenue, 1.7% of 32billion is 544million USD. It means that Imo and Abia brought 544million USD to Nigeria in 2017.

In this same year, southeast states received a total federal allocation of 152.9billion which is 459.1million USD using 333per dollar rate as it was obtainable in 2017.

Imo and Abia alone made 544million USD, this figure indicates that south east actually generated their own federal allocation. This cannot be said about the north’s humongous allocation, they feed from other south southern states


This will help create a picture to help you see who steals from who? Southeast earned every allocation they get, north steals from southsouth.
This is clearly seen as the total revenue generated in 2017, 65% of this was from oil while a substantial remaining Came from Lagos ports and business which igbos also contributed a large stake in terms of Importations of goods and federal taxes. Northerners don’t do importation a lot and they don’t have business paying taxes a lot.

We can hardly see the contribution of the northern states and their people here vis-à-vis the amount they get in term of allocations.


I am not an Igbo guy but it’s totally irrational to think that north is not the parasite here. They never earn whatever they get in Nigeria.

As matter of fact, aside Lagos and maybe ogun state and the oil producing states, other states include all 19northern states are parasites. None of them earn whatever they get.

Interesting.
What this shows is that Igbo republic is much viable without Minorities.
Once we get our Igbo people in Obiigbo and Egbema on board and get Enuani on board. We offset the Deficit in FG allocation immediately.
And we would still be sitting on gargantuan untapped natural gas reserves in Abia, Imo and Anambra to extract and even add more to our revenue generation. Oil exploration in SE has even been very poor. In BIAFRA we would intensify the effort in crude oil potentials of LGAs like Ugwunagbo and Ukwa East in Abia that have shown big promise, in Ohaji and Oguta LGAs of Imo, in Ogbaru, Anambra East, ANAMBRA west, and Ayamelum of Anambra, etc.
I'm sure we would find enough to quickly get more than we are currently getting from FG.

With an international airport of our own, more forex poured into the country by our humongous and resourceful diaspora population. Omo!
Biafra is very very viable without Minorities.
With Fulanis rounded up and sent to MALI, we can finally revolutionize our agricultural sector form of high tech agricultural system like they have in Netherlands and even earn more revenue. And we haven't even started talking of the skill capacity of Aba and industrial capacity of Nnewi. Innoson can be given all the support and power to become a truly global leading brand in technology. They can even be helped to diversify to other home electronics like refrigerators, TV, etc. Improving our balance of trade in the process as we would import less things from outside Igboland, ensuring a very strong Biafra pounds.

The potentials of independent republic of Igboland, aka Biafra is mind-blowing.

Someone should show IPOB and co this.

Owologbo:
Why should I be frustrated in you dreaming?
You are the frustrated one here, because you dream (Biafra) can never come to reality with this your attitude.
If you are tired of nigeria and you want Biafra, don't force SS into your Biafra; unless you are a hypocritic.

Why can't you speak for your ethnic group?

Like say: If you are tired of nigeria and you want Biafra, don't force MY ETHNIC GROUP (you have to mention the ethnic group there) into your Biafra; unless you are a hypocritic.

But you are the hypocrite who accuse Igbos of annexing "SS" when you are doing same.

Bionic07:
You people love deceiving yourselves too much, No be only "FG contact & connection seekers".
Igbo Muslims even have a community in one of the northern states where the Fulanis are busy radicalizing their children & giving their daughters to the hausas in marriage yet you're here talking about one nasty FG contact rubbish.
Go & ask Ustaz Emeka if he wants to be part of Biafra

They are economic Muslims.
And they know they are not welcomed by the Igbo society.
Igbo Islam future is tied to Nigeria future.
Immediately Nigeria dies, Islam in Igboland will die too.
They are extreme minorities and Igbo society is one that thrives on exclusion of the unwanted.

Walkee:
Edo can't be majority since Edo is not an ethnic group. Have you been to Edo state?

Yes. I have.
Well, Bini control Edo, don't they?

Bionic07:
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Bla bla bla! Yoruba Muslim, caliphate..... It's stale already.
As if you don't have Igbo Muslims, go to the north see them brekete, they even have program on TV called "Igbo Muslims Calling".

Igbo Muslims are FG contract and connection seekers.
They join Islam in attempt to get favour from Caliphate controlled FG.
Immediately we get BIAFRA and influence of the Caliphate becomes dead in Igboland, the Igbo Muslims would immediately drop the charade.
The joke is on you Muslims banking on Igbo Muslims.

TOPCRUISE:
But they say IPOB is a peaceful movement. What are they using weapons for.

For self defense against NIGERIA terrorists.

Coronabirus:
You can't just conclude that the guy is smart without assessing the importance of spending the money in a non prioritise channel. Kanu can't in every day accused whites for his mayhem and still rush to them for freedom instead of fighting or struggling for the freedom in a better way; it's obvious that some groups of Nigerians are still enslaved for always rushing to EU & US instead of going through authorise ways with chatterbthat cover such occurrences like ECOWAS, UN & AUN. US is very sensitive abt Nigeria's ethno-religious and heterogeneous complexity and has no right in which ever guise to speak fox him except bwhere human right is violated. The dirty religious campaign of TY Danjuma and CAN has received concern from the US because of their religious agenda & affiliation but US can't give Igbos freedom.
It's wiser for Kanu to ask his fellow separatists to contest election at all level of govt and after winning election, he can push hard for their independence throy SE Governor's forum, House of Reps and other stakeholders. [b]US is very aware of his violent struggle of killing securities and his excessive ethno-religious hatred on other Nigerians.[/b]Great freedom fighters have soft & forgiving heart while standing firm for their cause that they speak with wisdom and protect the right of people but u can't just be chanting for war that u can't win and at the same time asking & buying for sympathy from people who know u better.

On the bold.
Those are more of your Igbophobic fantasies than anything else.
USA and all western nations know that IPOB is a peaceful group that have been massacred in great numbers by terrorist Nigeria security apparatus for simply floating Biafran flags in rallies. This is why they all allow IPOB register and operate freely in their respective countries.

Walkee:
yea I'm from Edo, joining Yoruba or Igbos will just repeat the minority/majority oppression and corruption cycle.

But you want to annex other minorities with your Edo, so that you can be the new majority tribe in the new country?

Even in your Edo State, there are independent ethnic groups who wouldn't want oppression by Binis and their Oba, no be so?
Remind me again why the Anioma and Edoids in Bendel sought for division of the state into Delta and Edo state?

iamuyiekpen:
eyah. I feel your pains. Don’t worry when the time is right you’ll not only use your eyes to cry blood but your eyes go clear. Try and lump us into your useless and cursed Biafra and let’s see if you won’t encountered more than you did in the civil war.

Who are the "us". Are you that parasitic that you can't stand alone as a representative of your own ethnic group?
Come on! Your group can't be that inconsequential.
What is the name of your ethnic group.
Let's hear it.

iamuyiekpen:
continue whining like a child being denied breast milk. Rondel would grant 100% autonomy to every state. They’ll control their resources & decentralize power at the centre. Power would be rotated to every region. There would be no majority and there would no minority. Whoever will lead would be collectively agreed on by every one. Each state would be a country within a country. So don’t let that bother you. Focus on your Biafra.

You can only speak for yourself and your own ethnic group, and not for the rest of tens of ethnic groups in SS.
A referendum will put things in order.
Thatt way everyone gets to contribute in choosing where their ethnic group fall.

By the way, what is the name of your ethnic group?

Bionic07:
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This is just the plain truth all their posts reflects the amount of hatred they have for us, they can't even hide it.
For me, i see little difference between them & the babaric fulanis, the only difference is one is holding the "butt of the Cutlass" while the other has not been given the opportunity.

Lol!
You would have to settle the issues you have with your Muslim Fulani but Yoruba speaking brothers in Ilorin whose allegiance is to the seat of Caliphate in Sokoto, first and foremost, before you can think of settling whatever issues you think exist between Ndiigbo and Fulani.
For all it's worth, Ndiigbo has no boundary between us and Fulanis, you can't say same as they not only occupy your land in Ilorin, but they rule it with Iron fist. You should cure your own sickness first, before offering treatment for others.

Difrent:
It only make your group selfish whose members are not team players , such a group is going nowhere ........

So Igbophobic NIGERIANS like you now love Igbos more than Igbos love themselves?

Only in Nigeria are parasites begged and forced by so called hosts to stay with them.
Which tells you that there is a mislabeling somewhere.
Hosts in nature usually want to rid themselves of parasites, while parasites do all they could to keep hosts. You deceive no one.

jamjo:
Wow irony of life, How can the parasite want to leave the host and the host is crying honestly I don't understand.

You begin to wonder.

nku5:
Exactly. 99% of the anti-Igbo posters are from the north. Even on Facebook and other sites they now register with Yoruba names to push propaganda.

The Yorubas are willing vessels and not innocent too.
Don't forget that.
Not long ago I learnt how Bola Ige as the president of Christian association of West Africa kicked against Akanu Ibiam suggestions for Christian bodies to contribute in quelling the starvation policy in BIAFRA by supplying relief materials.

Grayoso:
This is what I personally keep saying to fellow Yorubas. The Yorubas should be appreciated and exalted for what they are are in Nigeria and the beacon of hope they remain for a nation so horribly mired in ethno-religious disharmony and strife.

Instead we get paid back in hate, unwarranted insults and non-stop attacks from all others. Reason is very simple. Travel all nations on mother Earth and you will appreciate that nowhere else are people more prone to take kindness for weakness than in Nigeria.

Our liberal, tolerant, compassionate and accommodating ways has now being taken, by other Nigerians, to mean weakness and cowardice.

Totally wrong nation for others to believe that about you because they will try and trample over you. Nigerians are prone to paying back kindness from others with evil and I see it every day live in 3D with my own eyes. No be sey dem tell me.

Solution? Protectionism, more protectionism and even more protectionism. We need to go and learn from Ghana how to put our own people and their interest first on their land rather than give an inch to envious ingrates with a domineering, covetous and expansionist agenda.

To discourage others from trooping in , including the criminals, because of the opinion that the Yorubas are a 'soft touch' people who are naive and gullible, we should put Yoruba-centric affirmative actions and policies in place everywhere across the SW .

We must discriminate consciously and in favour of Yorubas in employment, sale of residential/business/agricultural/industrial land and property, business start-up training and support, selective favouritism towards non-threatening inward investment, market presence, vocational training for Yoruba youths, Yoruba deliberate cultural promotion and consciousness, infrastructural contract favoritism etc, etc, etc.

Yorubas are the only major ethnic group practising one Nigeria beyond rhetoric and mere sloganeering but we are doing it in the wrong country.

That is because Nigerians are the best 'trained' in the world at negatively exploit whoever they see as a 'mumu' or 'mugu'. We therefore need to stop our current self-destructive 'mumuism' and swing passionately behind Yoruba nationalism in SW Nigeria.

You had a chance to have your nation when BIAFRA seceded in 1967, but you chose to fight for one NIGERIA with Hausa Fulanis.

Hurray! You won and your reward is that whether you like it or not, you must share your states including Lagos with Igbos. And you MUST tolerate and bear our excesses . Quite annoying right? Well you can't have your cake and eat it

You already have the most form of nationalism you can have in SW, you produce the governor of all SW states including Lagos and you control your civil service too. What else do you want to do? Close Igbo shops and ask them to pay heavy taxes like they do in Ghana? Well, you would need to first of all get your Odua republic to achieve that, and believe me, the Igbo want nothing more than to leave Lagos for you, but only on the Condition that we get BIAFRA.

bigfrancis21:
@bold...I used to live close to Diobu but many many years ago back in the 90s.

What was your experience living in those Rumu villages?

The Igbo hate was too much from the Ikwerre indigenes there.
They are angry when they learn you are Igbo, there is this thick atmosphere that they immediately put up around them when you are around.
They angry with you for understanding them when they speak their mutilated language in your presence and you reply them in English. All you would be hearing is Wisoma Wisoma all around you.
You discover that other ethnicities are more welcomed there than you are. You are only tolerated and they never fail to make you understand that.

PoloG:
empty chesbeating on nairaland.. you will loose your properties and NOTHING would happen rather than your usual online chestbeating.. which tribe can igbos defeat in nigeria in a war ?

Lol!

YungMillionaire:
Mister man you can believe what you like. That's your business. Unless you have relatives who are legally in America that can manage your property then forget. That property is as good as gone. US law says you still have the right, but in practice you really do not. Go and find out why there is high foreclosure rate among Latinos with deported family member. Donald Trump even deported mothers and to this day they can't find the babies in the US. Those are human beings that were been forfeited let alone property. If Nigeria breaks today, forget it. After the last civil war with all the promise of 'no victor no vanquished' how many people returned Ibo property? Except the SW, which other region returned Ibo property? What did the UN do about it? What about US? What did the international community do? Keep fooling yourself. When it happens your eye go clear.

Even Nnamdi Kanu advised Ibos to return their investments back to the East. Nnamdi Kanu is many things. Unintelligent and uninformed is not one of them.

Abandoned property worked because we didn't get BIAFRA in the end.
If we got BIAFRA and any fool declared our legally acquired property in their lands as abandoned property,it would be an act of war, and Biafran government and military would see to it that those involved pay for it.

FACE:
I think that i understand where this confusion about the Igbo identity comes from. It's a misconception by Ikwerre people that all Igbo people from the hinterland have the same root and speak the same way. The Igbo you hear in Owerri, Enugu , Aba, etc. are all urban Igbo, which is a fusion of dialects and doesn't belong to anyone in particular, but it's usually formed around the indigenous dialect. The Igbo you hear anyone speaking usually changes as soon as he is speaking with the relatives or kindred. I have an Ikwerre friend who speaks urban Igbo and he told me that his Ikwerre was different from Igbo until I broke into my own dialect. The truth is that someone from Umuagwo in Imo is more likely to have a fluent conversation with an Ikwerre person from Elele than the Ikwerre person would have with his Ikwerre kin from Emuoha if all should stick to their original dialect.

The hinterland Igbo you see in Port-Harcourt are likely to be speaking urban Igbo and that is why when you as a native of PH on hearing them speak would would think that they all speak in the same dialect from Imo to Ebonyi and from Abia to Anambra. This is probably why you don't understand why one variation (dialect) of your language keeps trying to subdue your own, but that is not true as Igbo is a conglomerate of dialects.

A very long time ago, people identities were based on their clans, but one thing they all agreed on was that they spoke Igbo and if you read about the slave trade era, you would see people described as for example, "Ungua (ngwa) from the Eboe (Igbo) nation, Aboh from the Eboe nation etc.

You call other Igbo groups Isoma, which is exactly what the typical Owerri person calls other Igbo groups and it's not out of disrespect. There are slight cultural variations across the board as well and you might be shocked to find out that you are more culturally linked with an Ngwa man than he is with an Enugu person due to proximity.

Having said all those, the Ikwerre seem to be more comfortable being an ethnic group on it's own and I do respect that.

You think Ikwerre people don't know all these things you typed?

Think again.

blues234:
Alobam Mr. P nwayo. Do you know Wigwe on Facebook, he is an Ikwerre guy from Elele Alimini. That guy is awesome wih his knowledge and commitment to the Igbo course. irrespective of some disagreement and bitter words, lets be caution and how we handle this Ikwerre matter.
A united Igbo nation is a force that will be formidable in influencing political and economic revolution in Nigeria.

Nnaa, alusi mekaria nganga, anyi agwa ya Osisi ejiri pia ya!
Ikwerre matter don tire me on a personal level.
I have zero chills for them, both the ones claiming Igbo and the ones claiming Bini. I see no difference between them all and will never treat them all any different.
I have no hate or love for them. I see them as just neighbors who wouldn't hesitate to throw us over the cliff if our fate as a people rests on them.

Let me ask you nwanne, have you ever lived in Ph, especially in one of those Rumu villages? I don't mean just a visit, I mean real residency there for like say A month plus?