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[quote author=Busy_body]Abeg stop demonising my beloved Nigeria, Nigerian law is "primarily" based on UK's "common" law". So in Great Britain, as far as this issue is concerned, the buyer paying after "inspection" has voluntarily waived goodbye to his money. The only legal recourse available to him is to take the buyer to Court with the burden of proof and sue for the losses incurred. But driving an overheated car with 5 warning light on, gives him no leg to stand on and the Court would hold him liable for this magnanimous oversight, meaning that he will not get his full money back in Court.

Without dragging this case further, the Buyer deserves a standing ovation for the utmost trust he employed, likewise the Seller's too for his goodwill gesture offer.


Hmmm.[/quote]Demonising indeed!! You are still talking law, doesn't look like you live in Nigeria??

[quote author=Busy_body]When you are done with being high up in the clouds away-with-the-fairies and you return to planet earth with a bump, put on your thinking cap Sir. This was a "private" sales, not a transaction with a Dealer, which means the onus is on the buyer to carry out the appropriate mechanical and background checks to make sure the car is sound.

The buyer waived his "already minute" legal right, the moment he purchased the car without the requisite inspection. And pray tell where he will get the burden of proof to absolve himself of any culpability with all the incriminating emails already weaving their way all over the airwaves huh? And remember the car was roadworthy at the point of sale.

Yes, the buyer can sue, but he is not entitled to a full refund, he can only sue for the losses incurred, and then he would also have to pay his Solicitors fees too, thereby still leaving a shortfall in his pocket. So his best bet IMHO is to accept Damola1's offer and chalk it down to experience.




Disclaimer:
This is only applicable to private sales, before any Dealer starts thinking . . . [/quote]And you wonder why Nigerians resolve disputes using some other means



Interesting discuss, hope all parties find peace at the end.

fasbio: hi all
thanks for the information and advice
i really learnt a lot about poultry business because i want to start my own soon,i already bought the land,

but my question is that is this type of business okay for me since am living in London and i love to have my own farm in Nigeria

any advice welcome
may GOD bless you all

Do not go into poultry or any other livestock farming if you are not on ground in Nigeria, do not attempt it no matter what you are told.
Poultry requires daily management during which a lot of "under the table games" are played by those managing it for others; you can and will lose your money within a short time.
It is a good and profitable business if you are on ground.

Are you sure?

Unfortunately, it is about to get worse with the demobilization of personnel from the Escravos Gas project. With over 5,000 jobless youths getting back to town this year, the results is so predictable.

biachwest: Nigeria government should consider reforming the various security agencies. Employ our graduates to the various department of our security agencies
. computer science graduate could be employed at the Florence department,lawyers ,engineers,doctors,- name it. They all have a place.
I was travelling from Lagos via road to Ghana and i decided to travel with ABC bus transport.Meanwhile i was suppose to board my flight back to Sweden from Ghana.
When we arrive to Fluid boarder.One immigration officer asked our driver to bring me because he saw 20 thousand Eur stamp on my passort.offcourse i did change that money in Lagos few days before my trip and transfer ed the money to my foreign a/c.
I presented myself to this officer, and he asked for my destination, and i replied that i was heading to Sweden.
He fatherly asked for my visa to Sweden.I brought out my Swedish and Spanish permanent residents, which is an id card, he took a look at them and started laughing
To my surprise. he asked me, if i want him to believe me,
that i will board a flight from Ghana and arrive Europe with this Id card. and i will be allowed entry to Europe with an id card instead of visa.
That is a disgrace to our nation.
Those kind of officers should be replaced with graduates from political science or other related qualified professionals.

It is not about paper qualifications but training, you should ask what kind of training the guy has received since he joined. A political science graduate without necessary training will be worse.

@ poster,

You need better information before you create further confusion, Chevron still recruits both OND and HND holders! A large number of folks on the EGTL plant belongs to this category. I work with a couple of them, it depends on the job owners and not the organization.
There is no organizational decision not to recruit these folks but of course you wouldn't recruit an HND holder as a drilling or petroleum engineer,

engineerd:
Thank u! We have an opportunity to break the cycle, but unfortunately the chances are looking bleak. I am in no way advocating anarchy, I am in support of Nigerians exercising their right to demand good governance and not to be the scape goat each time the government fails to do its duties.

Yes but softly, softly my brother. There are other evil people that don't wish us well seeking ways to profit from expected misfortune. When handshake goes beyond the elbow, it is no longer greeting but wrestling. The fight against corruption will have to be properly planned and executed using our intellect.

It makes sense for NLC and TUC to accept this offer in the interest of peace and progress of the country. GEJ listens after all and considering the efforts of the past few days, I believe he did not do badly.

Beaf:
NLC is part of the game the govt trying to get rid off. Who do you think sabotages the refineries? Its not evil spirits, its workers who have been paid from on high and are part of an evil web.

It is best to look toward people like Keyamo, Agbakoba, Hajia Najisatu Mohammad, col Umar etc to ensure delivery of the palliatives. Real people of proven integrity.

NLC is too small in the scheme of things as regards sabotage of the refineries, you need to talk to an "insider" there to understand.

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Parisgoodman:
Even if Fg buy PENGASSAN, ND boys knows more about the shuttin down than PENGANSSAN. It wont take them more than 3hrs compare to PENGASSAN'S 2-3days.

ESD takes only 1 second my friend, faster than the ND boys can offer. PENGASSAN leaders can be bought but their followership can revolt, it is worse when you don't have leaders leading a protest.

Fhemmmy:
I do agree with you that we have to change our life style, but to change a lifestyle, there are so many things that would be needed and one of the needed things would be electricity . . . Imagine a lifestyle where people cook on a nightly basis all because there is no way to preserve the food, so how do people make lunch to take to work if they dont have to wake up so early in the morning to cook, and also remember that same people come back from work so late at night that there is no even time for them to cook before going to bed.

All we saying is the masses needs help.

We pray and hope>

Fhemmmy:
Mail me, really would like to talk to you . . . Femmmy.moto@gmail.com

Not a problem.

Aftermath of NAFDAC failure! Cheap, fake drugs everywhere; only God knows those that are still sane in the country.

Fhemmmy:
Avoiding pure water is almost impossible in Nigeria where you cant just walk into a restaurant and drink water, where the weather is warm and poverty is just not an easy thing . . .No light for people to even be able to ice water in their own homes.
So many things in Nigeria is just working against business and till something happen, Nigerians will have to manage the tiny profit or even the loss on their business

You are correct but we also need a change of lifestyle if we will succeed in our personal lives, it is almost similar to choosing between packing lunch or visiting a restaurant for lunch. Sometime you have to make do with your own water that may not be ice cold rather than spending so much on some poor quality water that can kill you despite the bold NAFDAC number on the poor grade nylon used in the packaging.
I can tell you that most businesses makes (plenty) money in Nigeria, the issue is that they want to make more, at the expense of the consumer. Take the MTN folks as an example, what has been their profit profile since they started in Nigeria? I am sure they zoomed past their break even point within 2 years! And they refused per second billing until GLO got in as the game changer. I have many examples here, nobody cares about the consumers; it is extreme capitalism worsened in Nigeria due to lack of knowledge and regulations.

Fhemmmy:
I heard of the opportunity too about the lands, and i told couple of people to look into it, only to hear na lie . . .

Not sure who gave you that feedback but I can tell you it is very true, I visited one of the locations in Iwo town. I missed the opportunities from Osun state govt but I have friends that applied and got some; my alternative plans was successful but came at a huge cost because I wanted to own the land rather than leasing it.

Fhemmmy:
Yes, i do agree that Nigeria could do a lot of things and we dont have to depends on just Oil, but then we have govt that fart thru their head  . . .  Where would someone that is yet to even get money to drink gari get money to get land to farm or even eat to have energy to farm?

It wont be easy for a poor person to acquire land for farming but there are better opportunities now especially from state governments, Osun state govt has been giving out farmlands to interested people at ridiculous costs but there are also opportunities of cheap leases in the villages especially in the south west. This is from personal experience.
Of course there are other challenges with seeds, fertilizer, cultivation, planting, harvesting and storage. These are areas of opportunities for the citizens, imagine if you would invest in planting with the equipment shipped in and made available on rental basis. I can tell you that you will be busy almost everyday of the year, not promising that you will end up as Dangote but you will be able to take care of your family and have extra.

Fhemmmy:
No matter how much the diesel is in use . . . they will have to transport their goods and services and some are still on gas/petrol . . .

I get what you mean but this is where some business re-engineering will profit us, the time is coming when it wont be that easy to pass the cost to the consumer; pure water is actually a good example, it tanked at N5 for several years and became almost unprofitable until the recent policy. You can see that ideas are already coming up to avoid pure water altogether.

Fhemmmy:
Lol . . . @ Our environment, i hope that dead bodies will not liter the street out of poverty

Nah, it wont happen. We really need to start taking the state governors to task. Imagine the SW going back to agriculture, SS on crude oil, SE on technology, North also on agriculture and livestock. We wont even need to import so much, have always believed that Nigeria is a "bomb" if we can do things right.

Fhemmmy:
If the price of gas remain high, this will be the beginning of the problems for Nigeria.
Companies will be leaving Nigeria for Ghana in dozens very soon, cos this really mean that the cost of running generator that is needed for all industries will triple and manufacturers will have to pass on all these extra expenses to the buyers

Not exactly true, the companies are already on diesel generators. Diesel was deregulated long ago, any company using PMS to power generators for industrial production should not be in business.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=845433.msg9958468#msg9958468 date=1326484067]I trust Nigerians,they will start carrying ''water-bottle'' around now.[/quote]Good for the environment, our health and the pockets too.

Orikinla:
We have said it is either N65 per litre or nothing. The nationwide strike is not about going back to work, but to end the corruption in the NNPC and the ruling cabal licensed by the corrupt Federal Government. The Niger Delta militants are returning to the creeks because they have found out the conceit and deceit of the corrupt political contractors in power. If the government is broke, the President will not allocate billions of naira to his kitchen and the kitchen of his vice president. Moreover, the President does not need N900 billion for security. He should give us the breakdown of how the revenue allocations for security in 2010 and 2011 were spent. All the governors must also account for their revenue allocations for security. The removal of the subsidy on petrol is a ploy to deceive us from the real issues raised.  Fuel subsidy is not the most urgent issue, but national insecurity caused by the misappropriation of security allocations by the state governors,  with the exception of the governor of Lagos State who has not embezzled his own allocation. The National Assembly must ask him to give us the breakdown of the subsidy on petrol with receipts and the total revenue from the Nigeria LNG and excess crude account. President Goodluck Jonathan and company started this fire that has engulfed the whole country and they must put out the fire in peace or Nigeria will end up in pieces.

Bros, that N65 cannot work on the long run; just that govt need to repackage the deal and take certain steps before we can proceed with proper deregulation (not subsidy removal).

It is better for citizens in each states to start taking up their governors on the monthly allocations and the IGRs, they owe their people explanations.

The senate is already investigating the subsidy based on that initiative from Bukola Saraki, the public should put more pressure so they don't drop the ball on this.

Overall, it is unfortunate that GEJ is bearing the brunt of the whole issues with the governors waiting in the corner to share the money. There will be less pressure and tension in the system if the governors are performing as they should. A whole lot is wrong with the Nigerian system.
I am not a GEJ supporter but I want him to succeed, it is our country for now and we must keep hope alive no matter how bad the situation is.

But that is not where the Nigerian High Commission is? And no event is listed to hold there on January 14th or is it a one man show by you.

http://www.ydsquare.ca/index.php?option=com_jcalpro&Itemid=122&extmode=day&date=2012-01-14

That should be the writer's opinion. As much as I believe things could be done differently, I also know that presiding over a complex and dangerous country like Nigeria is not a tea party. One man is attempting to build and even his numerous close associates will be working against him!

sanguish:
the $1300 seemed insane to me as well. But who knows,  I'm not sure what the issues are with fines, "tips", etc.

Of course right now flying out seems to be impossible, so getting it fixed at the airport seems impossible. She's looking into trying to get to Ghanna to get home. This was originally to be a 2 week trip.

Are any airlines still flying out of the airport?

I'm not sure how to send money to her for a ticket with the banks in Lagos closed.

Right now she's scared and just wants to get home.

She should calm down, heaven is not going to fall, the airline (KLM?) will sort it out knowing the strike affected several people. She should be firm and not succumb to paying anybody, including the airline folks (they might want to play a fast one on her). Although she need not even declare that the visa is expired if she can do online check in and has no checked in luggage.

Not sure if going to Ghana is a smart idea or does she have visa to enter GH? The fuel issue should be resolved by Friday (or Saturday).

A re post, could not modify earlier post.

Are we talking about primary and secondary schools here or the universities?

Universities, yes but government must continue to fund elementary schools and make them free. A better tax structure will help government achieve this, any public elementary school in any LG has to be co financed (via property tax) by those living there whether they have kids in those schools or not. The people in those LGs must be well represented on the education board that will supervised the management of those schools to keep things in order.
Free elementary school contributes immensely to the development of any nation and will help Nigeria improve.

Problem is that we always have beautiful ideas that can work but we lack the sincerity that would ensure their implementation.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=844349.msg9950553#msg9950553 date=1326386692]Atedo Peterside is talking now on Channels. Very sensible fellow.[/quote]I doubt, especially if he spewed the same nonsense like he did few days ago. He was playing some dirty ethnic card then, pretty stupid for somebody who made his money in Lagos!

leaderone:
@gabby tabby

Have been following this subsidy removal argument for a while now and believe me I have read and heard all sorts, however this particular argument by YOU is by far the most annoying.

ARE YOU seriously giving us such a silly excuse? That do we expect GEJ to go after these corrupt importers and Govt officials?

WHAT Rubbish!!! What then is he doing there? You keep telling me that I have to pay because GEJ is scared of doing his Job? What did he expect when he asked us to vote for him?

That it was going to be a walk in the park? JESUS!!!

He has the Police, EFCC, ICPC, SSS, NIA, DMI etc and he is telling us he cannot fight corruption?

Then we are to sweat and give him an extra 1.3tri to squander away?

It is rather unfortunate that we live in such a nation. In the west, some of this excuses are grounds for speedy impeachment!!!

Let him resign if he does not have the balls to take the bull by the horn and do the needful

Please it is just past 4am, don't post such crap next time as it is capable of messing up ones morning

Actually, going after them will be like standing in front of a fast moving train. Corruption has eaten deep into the fabric of the country such that GEJ will be alone in such venture. You should search for OBJ's comment on Ibori back then and you will get some ideas.

jascon1:
if all lament and grieve with such intensity, then i suppose its time to address the neglect the niger delta has suffered for decades. we own this oil, yet we suffer the pollution, land degradation, explosion and many with little or no benefit. we have no rivers anymore as they have all been polluted by leakages and explosions, the average populace thrive in illiteracy and ignorance,
Nigeria as a whole benefit from our oil and we dont even get a share of development or compensation from the govt. or companies that make huge earnings in our lands. it was out of neglect and too many unanswered plea that a group called the MEND was formed to fight against the govt. as to this effect, many villages have been wiped out and turned to cemetaries by govt troupes, many women and kids molested with no compensation from the govt. you can recall this group aimed at pipelines and not human lives, yet they paid with their own lives for fighting against resource exploit, this is all we got left, oil, as our land is constantly degrading, our waters are deeply polluted for commercial fishing, our air chemicalized and our brothers slained,
i am forced to ask, was the rest part of Nigeria too selfish to lend a voice for our liberation as at when needed?

You need to come out of that Chanomi creek where you are hiding so you can update yourself very well. You can't even tell your story properly, we will continue to help you all the same. Now is a good time to bring MEND out so we can have sovereign national conference like some of us have been canvassing.

Working behind the scene, I guess.