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[quote author=ndu_chucks]Indeed. Nigeria shall remain one.[/quote]Hey!
That isn't what I meant, stop quoting me out of context.

I only marvel at the cunning way the OP/writer is trying to create a kinda "solid empire" for the Yorubas with lots of stolen resourceful lands -even from Igbos of Delta, but proposed the creation of the same recipe for disaster which crumbled the Igbo empire quest in 1966.

I also frown at the total disregard for certain ethnic nationalities esp the Ijaws who would be torn apart into two countries all in the name of "Natural" sepation features. I guess he is having such a short sighted definition of "natural" or simply don't know what is "natural".

I really don't care if Nigeria remains one or not, all I care about is the wellbeing and prosperoty of the Ijaw people and all her neighbours and friends.

Let them keep plotting, the Ijaw nation is ready for any eventuality, and if need be-bring this fccking country to a stop.

Egbesu Kuro Emi,
Tamuno Kuro Wo momo Emi.

And the Ijaws would just look at all your dum.b azzes from above, hiss and pity all you pathetic clueless people.

We don't rumble along with such "sophisticated" irrelevant discussions. It sounds and looks like the "sophistication" of an ant colony, it is irrelevant to humans. Too many dumb people on Nairaland, when you reply them with silence, they feel their nonsense have prevailled.

Happy new year folks.

ckkris: His grandmother added Azikiwe to Goodluck Jonathan's name, because Goodluck was born when Dr Azikiwe visited Ogbia. Now how did Chibuike Amaechi become Durotimi?

Nice answer.

Toktee: If you can also explain to me wether ijaw people do answer "azikiwe/ebere"then your questions above will be bonus.

Ijaw people don't answer Azikiwe & Ebere. You can take the nonsense elsewhere, definitely not Ijawland.

I propose a natural division, which
closely follows the River Niger and River Benue partitions.
In this case, I am referring to three countries emerging.

Benue; Cross-River; Enugu; Anambra; Ebonyi; Imo; Abia;
Akwa-Ibom; Rivers; and Bayelsa would form one single
country.

Kwara; Kogi; Niger; Oyo; Ondo; Ekiti; Ogun; Osun; Delta;
Edo and Lagos would form one single country.

Taraba; Adamawa; Borno; Yobe; Bauchi; Gombe; Plateau;
Kaduna; Nassarawa; Kano; Jigawa; Katsina; Zamfara;
Sokoto; and Kebbi would make up one single country.

The Federal Capital Territory shall be commonly owned by
all the three countries, with equal rights.

The first most humorous joke of the new year!

Hypocrite; with a capital 'H'

[quote author=God's Mercy]May the good God please bless, protect and direct President Goodluck Jonathan......to the disintegration of this country. Amen[/quote]FIXED.

atlwireles: [s][/s]

Ijaw_Citizen. aka Alj harem aka barcansita.

It is okay to admit you're wrong sometimes, it shows you're HUMAN. Don't be an hypocrite - is a candid advice.

UYCO: What we want is an independent Urhobo state that will form alliance with any emerging nation but certainly not Ijaw republic

As Urhobos, you have the God given right to aspire for whatever that is good for you, I support that 100%. But putting it in such a way to portray Ijaws as bad people who should be avoided at all cost is really insultive you know, or maybe you're just Ill-mannered. Ijaws don't owe you anything so I don't really care if you personally hate Ijaws, with or without you, Urhobos are solidly with Ijaws as allies. Your opinion about us is INSIGNIFICANT.

UYCO: 2015 chess game! I don't know where we Urhobos will align with but I am very sure that we will not be part of Ijaw republic. We would rather follow the Benis where our fore fathers came from

You don't even know your history, Urhobos didn't originate from Bini, on the contrary, Urhobos and the Isokos represent the original stock of the ancient Efa people while the Bini and other Edo groups are highly contaminated Efa people with majority of the population being of foreign decent -mainly fron Igala, Yoruba & other middle beltan cultures. Urhobos are largely mixed with Ijaw too. Study the Ogiso dynasty for more information.

By the way, we Ijaws once declared our republic in 1966 and it didn't include any non-Ijaw Niger Deltan territory, so you see we're not in need of company neither do we wanna force people against their will like the "Biafrans". A united Niger Delta republic is a good prospect, but we don't mind doing it alone. You also have a right to know that Ijaws are not a threat to Urhobos or any ND group in any way imaginable -politically, economically, culturally, socially etc. unless you nurse an innate hatred against us.

If you want diplomacy with Ijaw, go on ur knees and ask for it. Coming to Warri is a subtle declaration of war. As I said earlier, as an Ijaw I don't feel threatened when mosquitoes seek to for alliance with butterflies hoping to best real birds out of the sky in the near future because as far as I'm concerned, such an alliance is insignificant.

By the way, nobody talked about violence before someone threatened that "Ijaws don't have monopoly of violence". It only show the intent of OPC in warri is violence and it makes no difference if the position of violence in OPC's agenda is the first or LAST.

Like one poster wrote, the people of Warri would do anything to avert violence but the Yoruba incursion tends towards creating violence.

I remember vividly how a renewal of crisis was averted by the compromise of Ogbe Ijaw Chiefs during the last Olu coronation anniversary. The Itsekiris left their coastal areas in Koko, Omadino etc and planned to do their boat display alone the NPA-Ogbe Ijaw river which was clearly Ijaw territory as a direct confrontation against the Ijaws and it angered some Ijaw youths.

It took the wisdom of the Pere of Ogbe Ijaw to bring their comfrontation to naught by changing the whole scenerio to prove that he is wiser than the Olu by calming the youths and even mobilized some Ijaw youths to spice up the celebration by performing some "superior" boat display for the Itsekiri people, and it all ended in funfare. I am very sure the Olu and his trouble makers were disappointed that day.

Remember also that the attack on Itsekiri settlements along the Benin River by some rogue Ijaw youths was vehemently condemned by all Ijaw people including the chiefs & youths of Egbema community where the boys originated from-that was so because we are not violent people, we only retaliate against aggressors.

These are few examples of the regular compromises made by Ijaws & Urhobo to avert crisis in Warri which the Itsekiris are always ready to ferment.

Take ur love for other southern groups and share with other primates, we Ijaws in particular are neither love-hungry nor intimidated. Keep your opinion of the Igbos to yourself. When it explodes, you'd know the real stuffs Ijaws are made up off.

On a serious note, I'm not an advocate of violence but that doesn't mean I'm scared of violence or naive when some ants I overlook for peace's sake choose to team with or interbreed with scorpions, It only tells me to prepare a bigger fire to roast them all to hell.

wirinet: Gosh see stupid logic, so because all the important political posts under Jonathan has been dominated by ijaws and igbos, the rest especially the Yorubas should pick up arms and kill every ijaw in sight.

I imagine you to be a very bigotted being, if not you'd have noticed how I described the event as "UNFORTUNATE", therefore I wasn't justifying the action with a reason, I was only setting the records straight. Once again, your bigottedness dictates to you that "all the important posts under Jonathan has been dominated by Ijaws & Igbos", what a way of reasoning!

wirinet: I am telling you what happened from first hand information and you are here making conjectures. Did you know the supply route to food to ijaw villages? I will not tell you but go and ask how villages were starved during the tail end of the conflict.

How did you get "first hand information" when you're in far away Lagos? Quit your stupidity dude, the city does not supply Ijaws food, it is the Ijaws that supply the city with food at Ogbe Ijoh market. Besides, there are numerous coastal routes for food to get to Ijaw communities in Warri thru' Ondo, Burutu, Bomadi etc and these routes can't by cut off by soldiers stationed in the city. Once again, no Ijaw village starved during the crises, starvation was on Itsekiri settlements surrounded by Ijaw communities.

wirinet: YOU can believe whatever you want, but you should ask why was it that it was after the defeat of the ijaws in warri and the itsekiris began their offensive that a truce was called?

Defeat of Ijaws in Warri? Oh My Guoiss!!! Some first hand information indeed.

Orlando Owoh: Abe, tepaclade?

You meant to say " tebra ke lade a?"

Well,
E pake tié emi o, ama bara.

As an Ijaw, I'm not really bothered about an Itsekiri-Yoruba alliance. Itsekiri settlements are not connected to Yoruband. The entire Delta-Ondo-Edo boundary are owned by Ijaw communities. Itsekiris are only connected to Edo state (where they migrated from) thru' KOKO, All the communities to the South & West of Itsekiriland down to Ondo state are Ijaw communities.

So all the noise these Yoruba kids are making here are just what they are-empty moise.

wirinet: Is that so? No ijaw graves were counted as a result of the crisis, abi? You people attacked defenses women and children in villages and towns, unprovoked for up to 5 years, and you are forming bravery here. You should know that the itsekiris were not prepared at all for the conflict. We did not realize the ijaws were that barbaric, killing children, pregnant women and the aged.

It took use a while to realize that the conflict was simply about claiming itsekiri land for your phantom Tori-obe state. but go and ask ijaw survivors when the tried to take over warri. It was a slaughter. It was you people that ran to Abuja and Asaba asking for truce. Also go and ask Ijaw villages how we starved them by cutting off all supply routes.

All this is news to me, pls tell me more.
The unfortunate event that occured in Warri North was as a result of how Itsekiris disenfrancised the Ijaws by claiming all political posts and appointed since 1999, not as some phantom claim on some Itsekiri wasteland (seikiri). It is you Itsekiris that are claiming Ijaw & Urhobo lands as a "Warri Kingdom"

For the records, Ijaw land can never be cut off by Itsekiris, it was only access to the city that was denied by SOLDIERS. It was the Itsekiri villages which are always surrounded by Ijaw towns (a proof that Itsekiris are settlers on Ijaw land) that were cut off. The Ijaw man has never know famine or starvation ever in times of war, don't bother to ponder on this 'cos ur land grabbing brains are too shallow to comprehend this.

Under these circumstances, how could the Ijaws go to Abuja & Asaba to ask for truce? You can only ask the enemy for truce which for sure we never did. Abi Itsekiri kingdom don extend to Asaba & Abuja? It was a pro-Itsekiri Gov. Ibori who brought soldiers to protect the tiny Itsekiris yet they still felt the sting of the 'Asawana Egbesu boys' ask any soldier that went to Warri that year, they will give you the scores.

wirinet: I hate to see Ijaws and Itsekiri kill each other but my blood boils when Ijaws feel they have monopoly of violence.

This alliance with the Yoruba has always been there, we do not need anybody's permission to align with our Yoruba brothers, just as the ijaws did not need any permission from any other tribe to form an alliance with the igbos. everyone is preparing for a post Nigeria future.

Foolish talk, Nonsense!

Good Job, Atlwireles.

I dey your back gidigba. I just find it difficult to reply these kids.

[quote author=Mayor_of_Lagos]@topic,

I want to congratulate all my Itsekiri brothers and sisters and say your leaders did the right thing by inviting OPC to institute its political presence in Warri. By this action the Oduduwa flag, which is rightly your birthright, has been planted on your soil.

Have you guys noticed how over the past two years Ijaw citizen have repeatedly dominated Delta political talk? Everytime there is a flashpoint they issue statement calling attention to Delta and Ijaw. Is Ijaw the only people in Delta?

Yoruba is in Delta too. Its high time we raise that awareness. OPC is our steward in that regard and all Oduduwa children are under their umbrella of socio-cultural brotherhood.[/quote]I'm not guily of this accusation, it is just a figment of your deluded imagination. Prove your sanity by providing facts to substanciate your accusation against me or forever remain a clown.

atlwireles: There is enough history to guide your boys. The last time they were all refugees in sapele. Push your lucky again, we will always defend what belongs to us in Warri without fear or favor. Cross your boundary in the creeks and the Ijaw, will show you who owns papa's land. By the way, use your barcansita and Ijaw_Citizen IDs to spew your yoruba rubbish.

Let me start by correct Atlwireles that I'm a proper Ijaw man. Last time we met we're in good tune, when did you join the band wagon of scared Igbos to brand me Yoruba?

The action of Yorubas & OPC is really provocative to say the least. They simple don't understand that the volatile nature of the relative peace being experienced in Warri came at great compromises mostly from Ijaws & Urhobos. I see the Yorubas throwing their weight behind Itshekiris to encourage their claim on Warri main town & possible the entire 3 Warri LGAs is seen as the easiest way to destabilize the Niger Delta.

I say this because NONE of the issues that gave rise to the Warri crises have been resolved, what exists at the moment is more or lest a ceasefire with lots of compromise from Ijaw & Urhobo. The Itsekiris have always been on the offensive by claiming Warri as "their god-given homeland" but usually ignored, but bringing in Yoruba into Warri is simply unacceptable.

We all know the history of Itsekiris at our fingertips, they didn't come from Yoruba, they are escapees from Benin that settled inside Ijawland. As a matter of fact, the founder of the Itsekiri nation GINUWA lived and died a REFUGEE in Ijawland, then NONE of the Itsekiri towns (not to speak of "kingdom" was in existence. From their settler status, they enjoyed Ijaw hospitality & were allowed by the Ijaws & Urhobos to establish their own towns amongst us in peace without any intimidation. But now they've turned out to be ingrates and doing everything possible to make Warri their property in an attempt to escape the reality that they are indeed settlers in Warri.

My advice to the Yoruba new comers is that they should ensure the political partitioning of Warri into 3 for the constituent nationalities in Warri before seeking to unite with Itsekiris in "Warri" because the defintion of "Warri" defers amongst the ethnic groups.

Any attempt by the Yorubas to further the Itsekiri land-grab agenda in Warri will be resisted with maximun force.

Remember Tompolo is an Ijaw from Warri too.

This na serious GOBE, lol!

Well said B,
They don't understand the ways of the Ijaw man and its getting them all confused. Ijaws are never emotional in reasoning but hyper logical. It is the superior logic, thought process and ways of the Ijaw man that makes people think he is dumb & naive because he is always humble, calculative & talks less.

As for those asking me to enlighten them of Igbo attrocities on Ijaw land, and accusing me of being the only one in Ijawland with knowledge of such massacres, I'd rather ignore your childishness. I truely really don't blame any of you, you're just victims of propaganda & circumstance. Your parents and realtives hid the truth of their actions from you but presented themselves to you as knights in shinny armour and planted seeds of hatred in you.

If you expect me to return to the days of correcting you ignoramuses (which you'all term HATRED) you're all wasting your time. I've come to realize that the Igbo man is never conscious of his actions that is why they see themselves as a NEVER-DO-WRONG kinda people who reason and act emotionally (a trait Ijaws have long evolved beyond). That is why you Igbos on Nairaland politics would deny anything (I MEAN ANYTHING) that portrays Igbos in bad light especially when it is true. Once again, you will NEVER understand the Ijaw man, you're just simply incapable. Thats why every line of action you take with the Ijaw man is a MISFIRE and the biggest joke of them all is SS-SE REGIONAL INTEGRATION. (What a joke!)

Anyways, keep rigmaroling like some ant colony. One thing about ants is that they think the "dark" above their head is a cloud-a dark cloud, but in essence its just a boot.

tick-tick

barcanista: it would bros. With Resource Control, we won't have to wait for Abuja allocation, we won't depend on state Govt nor local govt. Each oil producing communities will use their own percentage to develop their lands. That is our Community Leaders (Amayanabors and Co) will directly use our respective monies to take care of our communities. In fact, should he misbehave, we will know how to DEAL with them accordingly since we won't have to "travel".

The benefits are:
1)Monies for our respective communities will be spent on respective communities without extension to another.
2)The Community leadership led by the Kings along with his chiefs and NOT politicians will take these monies.
3)The issue of tribalism, our brother etc won't be there since each community is responsible to itself.
4)The input of the locals will prevail and not what one Abuja politician talks.
5)Massive development as no nicompoop will contemplate diverting funds- you can't fight your people and win. In fact I trust my people.
6) Etc





Thanks

Good one B, school them, school the greed off their azzes.

[quote author=Warri _Pikin]Your entire presumption is that because Ijaw is termed a "minority" group in Nigeria, they should be oppressed and any attempt to fight for their rights will be defeated because they are a minority?
How superficial you can be in your analysis. First of all, Nigeria cannot defeat Ijaw in any true combat unless it gets help from world powers like US or Britain. In any case, who will be fighting the Ijaws? Yorubas or /and Hausa? Infact, the Yoruba has its own hidden agenda to break away from Nigeria and i suspect in their wisdom of sharing border with Ijaw,they will not want to turn their region into a battleground. So i suspect only the Hausa will take the folly of fighting the Ijaw? With the present world order and economic order, they will be silly to expect the type of unquestionable help from Britain and Russia which helped them win the Biafran war. As a matter of fact, those countries have more to gain from a more manageable divided Nigeria than how it is presently constituted.
The same type of silly argument was made about Southern Sudan being a minority and impoverished that the north was going to snuff the life out of it if it dares to go for independence. Today, the nation of South Sudan proudly exist in the world. The same argument was put forward for former Soviet republics as Lithuania,Georgia,Ukraine etc, all those countries defeated the mighty Soviet union and are independent republics today.

Therefore, if the Ijaw decides to go its separate way, which may very well be the case after 2015, Nigeria cannot force her to be part of this cess pool of a country simply because our oil is needed to finance Islamic terrorists running around in northern Nigeria. If they want to war,they should already know through the Niger Delta crisis that the Ijaw isn't afraid of one.[/quote]My quote of the day!
Thanks bro, for making my day.