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Obrigardo:
I remember when basilico loco use to disturb us with lock her up chants. Now he's the same hypocrite that's disturbing us criminal trumps indictment is political retribution.

Just as brainless as this magat below. They always always own themselves.

Hypocrisy is the GOP's strong suit.

CoolUsername:
Seems like you have an iteresting take on the American Civil War.

This person makes the argument not prosecuting Trump is treating him above the law. He argues prosecuting the crime of falsifying business records is common in NY. He adds cases to back up his point.

Survey of Past New York Felony Prosecutions for Falsifying Business Records
https://www.justsecurity.org/85605/survey-of-past-new-york-felony-prosecutions-for-falsifying-business-records/

budaatum:
The US that fought a war to abolish slavery? I beg to differ.

Compare what happened post Holocaust to what happened post slavery. Could you imagine finding Hitler's bust anywhere?

budaatum:
This is like saying, until a dump comes along and promotes dumpism.

Desantis might get away with it for a while, but people will react when they see what Desantis decided and then decide to keep Desantis or dump Desantis' ass. T

That's what makes democracy so beautiful, you see. We the crazy demos get to reevaluate our decisions every 4 years and decide whether to keep them or dump them. That's what we did with dump.

You're more hopeful than I. There was a recent poll that said Conservatives would want an autocratic government if it supported their views. I think Trump's election was a seismic shift in terms of how people view Democracy.

budaatum:
I agree with the long term benefits of continuation, but not that the role backs are as intense or as bad as you propose since some role backs are good. Still, if the people do not want roll backs, they can keep electing the same party and get continuity, so it's the people who decide in the end.

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The Chinese system would never be accepted in USA nor UK because neither has the DNA for it. In fact, the only countries that adopt anything close to what China has is called a despotic nation by those who don't share such systems. It's the sort that Nicolae Ceaușescu, Ivan the Terrible, Robespierre, Joseph Stalin, Idi Amin, Pol Pot et al tried to impose but failed.

Yes, I was both siding it when I really meant the Biden roll backs were good. But still, the US I think is far behind things like basic infrastructure (Detroit - lead in the water, failing Bridges, etc.) let alone developing for the future. And that is a byproduct of having crazy Republican rule and hence no continuation of policies. I didn't even know Carter had put solar panels on the White-House and Reagan took them down. Imagine where the US would had been now if we had invested in Solar then.

In terms of systems being accepted. I'm thinking more of the future as China becomes a bigger player and more people see the upsides of having a dictator vs. democracy. Already thanks to Trump Democracy is backsliding in countries like Mexico and Israel. In fact, as I said, I could see Republicans embracing it.

budaatum:
I doubt the majority were opposed to Brown v. Board of Education. It's like claiming the majority supported dump, when, on seeing he was dump, they rose up and dumped his ass.

Besides, laws against Brown v. Board of Education were already well established, so Brown v. Board of Education was difficult to oppose. They might have well opposed the freeing of slaves, in which case we shall impose on their stupid so called "majority opinion".

Equality Act 2010 protects the following characteristics: age; disability; gender reassignment; marriage and civil partnership; pregnancy and maternity; race; religion or belief; sex; sexual orientation.

And apart from the law, we have education whereby minority rights are taught. It's why a lot of nations are in a pickle today trying to protect the minority gays and even transgenders. In countries where minority rights don't matter, a boy is a boy and a girl is a girl and neither the two shall change.

You can't even preach what use to be the majority religion in UK anymore, not even in a Church of England school.


Funny that anti-discrimination laws may be unpopular, but they still get to pass regardless in enlightened countries at least. While discrimination laws may be popular but they don't get to pass regardless.

Most countries don't just rely on laws, but on educating its citizens too. And prior to education, people sat in church and were told to love their neighbours whoever they may be, which evolved into the Equality Act above, and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in my siggy below even though that verse took centuries to be understood as such.

Unpopular, or popular, is judged by it's merit, and most have brains for that. That's why we abolished slavery even though it had its majority in some places, and why I have faith in the human race eventually doing that which is right.

You are right about the majority position vis a vis Brown v. Board. Found a "poll", that had it at 55-40 in support right after the decision. But that 49% of whites supported it. In researching that I wondered about the Dread Scott decision (basically a US Supreme court decision that said African Americans could never be US citizens) and found the justice who penned the decision still his bust prominently displayed in Congress up until 2022 when it was replaced with a bust of Thurgood Marshall. The US really really didn't give a sh*t about black people.

Agree about the education, but that is all good until you have someone like a DeSantis decide what can and can't be thought.

But, there is a real debate in terms of what type of system works best. Look at China. They have the ability to strategize and implement long term objectives(belt and road, energy, infrastructure.. etc etc.) because they have a dictator for life. While every 4 years a new US President comes in and rolls back what the previous one did while Congress is focused on platitudes trying to win the next election.

budaatum:
I am beating the hell out of you, so you should just give up so I don't beat you no more?

What's funny is this your thinking is not limited to Ukraine. When black people in America awaken to fight against discrimination your reaction seems to be the same, that they should stop fighting against discrimination because they will be beaten and killed by their more powerful discriminators. Its hard for you to understand that some will rather fight their oppressors than submit to oppression.

Benaalvino3 seems to an appeaser mixed with side of Stockholm syndrome. But I guess living in Nigeria may do that to you. At a point some people have to be ok not wanting more or expecting more to be sane right? So, why should black people want equality when they should be happy with what they have. Or why should Ukrainians want their liberty and freedom, when they should just be happy taking what the Russians are giving them or allow them to have.

Look at his last argument. Basically, just be happy you are in the US, don't complain about lack of equality, don't expect better or more. It's like his soul has been dominated.

Republicans arguing that Trump paying off a PORN STAR who he was cheating on his pregnant wife with is a purely personal matter because he used personal funds. Ha. "The party of Christ".

It's going to be a crazy, very interesting "Legal" period if Trump does get indicted and has to stand trail somewhere. It's going to strain our Legal institution and the concept that everyone is equal under the law.. well publicly strain it as we know it's not true.

Ex. What happens with the Secret Service if he has to stand trial? How do they protect him without prejudicing the Prosecution? Can they be in court, do they sit next to him? Can they research the jurors for threats? And if he does run for President at the same time? What if he gets indicted and convicted and is in jail, yet somehow wins the Presidency? Can he be president. The last one is a stretch but seems there will be a lot of issues that spring up.

Obrigardo:
Fùck you boy, you think I care about your opinion? You are a black person hater, and that's been established for a long time coming.

Imagine a person who lives in a country where he will never be a racial minority and who's never been anywhere where he can understand being a racial minority lecturing to others on what racism is or isn't.

budaatum:
But isn't popular opinion exactly what democracy is?

I would say yes, if tempered with minority rights. Thinking what the majority opinion in the US would have been during Brown v. Board of Education.

But, I do think people's opinions change so there should be a period where a leader can implement things that may be unpopular and let them play out. In the US we have impeachment if a President does something that outrageous, but needs a supermajority to pass.

But, yes standing up in Parliament would be nice. I think only two recent Presidents would have been effective. Clinton and Obama. Bush 2 was an idiot. Trump was an idiot who didn't study. Biden is knowledgeable but always made gaffes and his age doesn't help.

To the rest, I'm not knowledgeable enough about UK political systems to have an informed perspective.

To inject a little fact into this fiction. John Edwards was indicted for similar. And at the time there was widespread belief that he would be the Dem standard bearer after Kerry lost. He was indicted soon after that election by his ex rival Bush's DOJ (edit). I don't remember any Dem holding hearings on the politicization of the Justice Department for going after an ex-VP candidate and former Senator who was most likely running again.

https://www.businessinsider.com/john-edwards-last-presidential-candidate-charged-with-campaign-finance-violations-2023-3

budaatum:
The fact that PMs can be changed so easily is what makes the system desirable, as it puts the ruling party on its toes. They still are of the same party that changed them, note.

I'm not so sure. Sometimes policies take time to percolate and there may be intense anger at it's inception. Seems like a recipe to hue too closely to current popular opinion.

Obrigardo:
Basilico is insane, seriously. I can't imagine how a normal human being can survive in the echo chamber he swims in daily. Sooner than later he'll find himself acting out his frustrations just like any demoralized cult member.

Even criminal trumps own think thank told him there was no evidence of voter fraud but he didn't care. And it's quite a shame basilico will turn his sights against the truth. How can someone live a peaceful and happy life like that?

He's definitely not well. Gives off Christian Cultish vibes like Branch Davidian. As you said, I can't imagine someone spending day and night immersed in all that fringe Right wing propaganda.

BraniacX:
it was/is about American interests, panama was a province of Colombia whose armed secession America supported and funded for American maritime interests, building the canal was an overt act of imperialism and there was little to nothing benevolent about it. It could only take a Jimmy Carter to recognize America's moral injustice and hand over the canal to Panama. Same thing i think Russia is trying to implement with Ukraine in the crimea vis-a-vis securing their Mediterranean fleet via the black sea. I don't see them having America's Panama success though, and today, after Iraq and Afghanistan, i don't see the U.S being so overtly imperialistic as it was back then, it's no longer the wild wild west of days of yon

Yes, mostly agree with the first part. But I do believe the US always leans toward moral justice as evidenced by what Carter did. Yes, that is what Russia is trying to do. I don't see it being successful as well since the West esp. Europe also has an imperative not to allow Russia to control that region and what it produces. I'm really not sure what Russia is doing, seems very destructive esp. in this generation. But I watched some of Zelensky's tv show "servant of the People" and was amazed at how much of a Western influence the show had. Even jokes based on Western history. I can understand why Russia hates it so.

BraniacX:
Nigeria should align with Nigeria i.e non-aligned, pity we don't have capable leaders currently, we only have yes men who only go abroad (cap in hand) to have terms dictated to them by various power blocs like servile dolts

Ideally, yes. The issue is the yes man, not forging strategic alliances. Nigeria is so far behind that we do need strategic partnerships and we can negotiate good deals if we have good leadership.

And I'd rather the US align with the US/Western alliances than what is shaping up to be a China led alternative.

EnlightenedUFO:
I'M SO MAD THAT IT'S EVEN A DEBATE

God forbid i catch one lousy dookie telling me kids having free lunch at school is wokeism. I would punch his jaw so hard his toungue will fall off.

Republiqans are Evil! Evil! Evil!

They are not christians in any way, in any manner. They are just Evil!

Right. They are kids... let them eat healthy food, if they want. We got to be a better society than that.

budaatum:
This is why I am interested in USA politics. Nigeria abandoned more rational British Christianity for American Pentecostalism, then abandoned British parliamentary for American presidency and judiciary shopping is already in both countries.

Guess we must tear ourselves apart before we wisen up.

Don't know enough about the British parliamentary system. But given all the turmoil the last few years (multiple PM's), is it really a better system than the US? I do appreciate the debating style in Parliament though. I think what holds the US back is the electoral college and the fact states like Wyoming have disproportion representation.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/27/learning/whats-going-on-in-this-graph-nov-9-2022.html

Need to spend some time on Nigerian History maybe a book on tape/podcast I can listen to on my next long drive.

EnlightenedUFO:
Really, it was crazy. I don't know if something can be done to bring those evil men to justice, well it's political and over 40 years, so statutes.

Watching "from afar" the Nigerian elections and then watching the machinations of the GOP reminds me that the US political climate isn't too too far from Nigeria and how it can devolve. From what Reagan did, to Trump calling for protests (dog whistle to violence), the Speaker of the House McCarthy trying to weaponize the Federal Govt. against a City DA, and the calls that Laws we have shouldn't be enforced because a man was once a politician. The difference is that we have an "pseudo independent" Judiciary and a Dem party filled mostly with people who want to do the right thing.

EnlightenedUFO:
You like basilico loco are always on the wrong side of history.

Can you detect who is the Democrat in the images below? Which one approved child labor and which one just allowed free meals to ALL kids in that state?

Can you feel the emotion?


Why you people pledge allegiance to evil minded people is beyond me. I'm literally quite scared to know you guys offline. You could be murderers and killers.

I'm not even sure what the argument against free school lunch is. Seems rational that a minimum kids should be fed while at school. I'm ok with my taxes going up to pay for it. And the argument against this is from the "party of Christ". I think the fact more and more people are walking away from Christianity is because Republicans have coopted it in service of things like this and people like serial adulterer/constant liar Trump.

This story is unbelievable, though won't get much coverage due to Trump. The NY Times is reporting that part of Reagan's election strategy to win against Carter was to tell the Iranians not to release American prisoners because they would get a better deal if he won.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/18/us/politics/jimmy-carter-october-surprise-iran-hostages.html

basilico:
Very true. Independent. All though We may not live there, but we can put two and two together.
Oct 2008. Fed rate 1.00
After Obama wins

Dec 2008. Fed Rate 0.25%

The Feds maintain this 0.25% till

September 21 2016 0.25%
November 2:. 2016 0.50%

***Trump wins***
December 14:. 2016 0.75%
March 15 2017. 1.00%

When Chicago Jesus was president the rate was 0.25% throughout. That allowed him to hike the debt from $9.9.Trillion to $ 19.94 trillion.

We need to live in America to figure out that

This post is my point.. AGAIN. If you had lived in the US, you would have known what happened in 2008 that the FED had to drop the interest rate down so much and keep it there for a while. But you don't live in the US and seem to not be even aware of the global consequences of 2007-08 Financial/Banking Crisis.

So you spend your life here(literally day and night) sounding like an idiot, while actually too much of an idiot to even understand how much of an idiot you are. And all the while repeating misinformation, disinformation and propagating racism.

For the Umpteenth time the FED is an independent agency and the agency that decides to raise or lower interest rates. Biden has no control over it.

If you don't live in the US, never been to the US, haven't studied the US and decide to spend your lives in the thread of a country you have no relation to, at least research the topic that you are opining on so you are not continuously repeating misinformation.

Anyone who reads these posts here will come out dumber for it.

Obrigardo:
Oh, there's some juicy stuff Lindsay Graham said about criminal trump that should be trending in 1,2....

Yes. Though I felt like that bit was Graham "helping" Trump by making it seem he just got caught up in the lies rather than being the one pushing the lies.

A good read. A look into the Atlanta Grand Jury Investigating Trump and his attempt to subvert the election.
EXCLUSIVE: Behind the scenes of the Trump grand jury
https://www.ajc.com/politics/exclusive-behind-the-scenes-of-the-trump-grand-jury/6CXLKTFMKNDU7O6TER4B7UTZPE/

CoolUsername:
SVB made a press release saying that he was only the CAO of SVB Securities which is distinct from the bank that failed so I'm not competent sure of his involvement in this disaster.

He was part of SVB securities which has the same parent company as SVB Bank. But you see how you gave him the benefit of the doubt you did not extend to the Indian woman who was park of the UK subsidiary?

CoolUsername:
Either the banking and Finance sector is a human centipede or this guy has the worst luck.

When it's a minority woman who isn't even in the C suite, it's her fault for doing other things. When it's a white man who has been the CFO and CAO of two failed banks, it's bad luck? Lol.

You don't even see your bias to even start to address it.

Edit: he was actually the CAO of a subsidiary SVB Financial the parent company of SVB Bank.

Obrigardo:
It's only in your potty brain that President Biden destroys whatever you think he did. What an idiot.

His post reads like someone who read the first few pages of a book and then decided to give a lecture on the book. He really doesn't have a grasp of how a bill becomes law or even who raises interest rates.

Honestly, this thread seems to be have become a cesspool of misinformation and unintelligent ramblings.

budaatum:
Do not let yourself be trolled. They are like pigs.

I wanted to emphasize his wrongness.. so he wouldn't easily slither away on this one. And that cousin quote is actually US news.

CoolUsername:
You guys are doing it on purpose at this point. Her woke bank failed and I'm having a laugh. Stay mad bro.

Oh, you couldn't pick out the WOKE LGBTQ minority responsible for crashing the bank in the picture of all the mostly white SVB execs right? Right. Because your narrative is Bullshit.

In the real less delusional world, we are all laughing at how easily it is to turn Nigerians like you into "useful idiots" that parrot right wing racist memes. Or as Tucker Carlson's producer put it.. "Terrorists, but especially dumb ones. Cousin f----- types".

Really, do you ever get tired of being made an idiot?

budaatum:
This is what these dimwits don't get. They think woke people are fooled by the addition of one woke person, yet same dimwits will notice when company gets a low ESG score.

Over in the religious section, I call their sort ignorant stupid naked enslaved Adams who ought be grateful of Eve. But of course most aren't.

Interesting theory (enslaved Adams). I'll have to check out the post in the religious section.

CoolUsername:
You and your own? Are you Justin Trudeau? When did you go Bollywood?

You and your own? She was organising LGBT campaigns when the bank was on the precipice of failure. She, like all the other officials, probably dumped her stocks and cashed out with her 6—7-figure bonus while you and your own (the everyday working people) are left to deal with the fallout. I wonder just how fxcked Coinbase users are right now.

Corporate executives do not represent you.

I thought you would do one of two things. Either disappear or double down and try to disorient us with BullSh*t. Seems you chose the latter path.

Here is a pic of the executive team. Maybe you can tell me where she is here since she had that much power that she alone is responsible for crashing the company because of her LGBTQ activities.

Just be honest, admit you were fooled and move on.

Yeah, I'm done with Florida.
Charges dropped against man arrested for road rage shooting on I-95
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2023/03/10/charges-dropped-against-man-arrested-for-road-rage-shooting-on-i-95/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOOaadwr5YU

Tucker Carlson's producer is spot on on dealing with some of the Far right, like some in this thread.

"Like negotiating with terrorists," he added, but especially dumb ones. Cousin f----- types not saudi royalty."

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:SgAl7q22AZMJ:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/03/12/raj-shah-fox-trump/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

budaatum:
I think it is stupid to think woke agenda was promoted "instead of making sure your company is ran adequately". But then I do my research while you run with what "Bernie Marcus, the co-founder of Home Depot, implied".

Smarter people than you are would at least start by typing "why svb collapsed" in a search engine before jumping to your "implied" conclusion.

Neither matters. The truth is the company probably wanted to align with the values of the people who lent them money to get more of their money so focused more on diversity. It was probably just a cost of doing business in the very specific San Fran VC culture. So, they hired a head of diversity who was so close to real power she was in another country (being sarcastic). A write off like the cost of company vacations or Taco Tuesdays. Put a token DEI coordinator in place, base them in another country and get the feels that you are doing something. All the while the SVB executive team is majority white. (pic below).

This is a red herring the right does so well to distract and obfuscate from some of these root causes; Deregulation and the FED leaving interest rates low for so long. And who championed both.. yup Trump and Republicans. The 2008 bank collapse was worse.. how many of those companies were "woke"? This is why America is fundamentally going to struggle. Half the country is too stupid to know better and their leaders play on their stupidity. Look at this thread. Stupid abounds.