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wirinet:
I don't agree that Nigeria should align with the US. We should not align with anyone, but continue to be non aligned. We go with who best serves our interest (both short and long term interests). The US has proven to be an unreliable ally. Those third world countries that aligned with the US has nothing to show for it outside US teleguided democracy, US culture and morals and US aids that's akin to a Greek gift.

Raskimonojendor:
I think Nigeria aligns/relates more with the USA than China or Russia. Russia is not even in the equation at all. Forget the Putin's Nairaland rave in the foreign section. They are insignificant.

With China through the Belt and Road Initiative, China now accounts for 12% of Africa’s $696 billion external debt. Outside the BRI program, chinese have other inroads into Africa though by lending to the average African/Nigerian man on the street. The internet/app loan menace often discussed on Nairaland and outside Nairaland are the creations of Chinese loan sharks.

budaatum:
It's not about aligning, but about learning from. That said, Nigeria has aligned with US since after our Civil War. We after all did not adopt the political systems of Russia or China. What we seem to be adopting from China at least is the opportunity to sell our goods. Basically, we align where there's market.

Agreed to a degree. I think there is a danger in aligning with China morally, and because of the ease of doing business and travelling there, that is more apt to happen. Was speaking to a friend who is a player in the Naija Finance world. Was saying something about China, and he said, nah, China isn't that bad. Was interesting sentiment given who he is and it caused me to 1.) do a double take and 2.) make a note to reconsider my views. Which itself was interesting.

Esp. after visiting Panama, are these countries/places that heavily partnered with the US worse off? Places like South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, Hong Kong? I don't know.. But I am curious. Cuz, I'm not sure Nigeria has the ability to get where it needs to go anywhere soon. Not because we as a people aren't bright, but because our government doesn't have the ability.

budaatum:
I often wonder when Nigeria will consider such doings.

It was a US project. But I do think Nigeria should be more closely aligned with the US. But, look at the views even in this thread. And instead we are aligning with China and Russia?

budaatum:
We really are just asking you to consider doing the same here because we believe in your ability to so do.

Listen, it's not about me or my ability to do so. I would generally agree with you, except he doesn't only attempt to bully me. And I've never been one to stand by and watch someone bully other people.

Let's drop this though. You can report any of my posts you feel derail this thread. It won't offend me. I understand and I'll accept the consequences.

benalvino3:
Dude, Chill. listen to budaatum, But your attention-seeking craze will not let you. You are usually the first to try and bully someone here. and people like you are the ones who usually fold when you get the same treatment.

don't conflate push back to bragging.

I don't support him. I Hardly talk to him. I only do it when we have something to talk about. Each time he has suggested to me not to tolerate you... I tell him, I can mess around with people, but if they are not stepping on my toes, I will be Nice and friendly to them.

When I first got here... the Guy I call your father was insulting me. Without knowing who I am, where I have been, where I work etc. He said I am poor, my parents are poor and he can feed my entire generation. I usually don't respond to him. He speaks like you... If you have not been in a plane, or if you have not been in the US... blabla, you can't have an opinion. Just like you, he does not say this thing to the people who align with his idea that are in Nigeria.

So cry all you want. as for me, I have asked you not to be naive with your idea that people can't have opinions because they are not in the US.
But for Basilico, what is your beef with him? the dude barely mentions your name. He is one of the nice guys here... takes a lot of crap but he still composes himself. why mention him up and down?

you are emotionally weak but you are the first to always pick a fight. I have told you before, no one is forcing you to be here. if you cannot handle what you dish out, Vamoose

Ask yourself, how many posts like this have you written to Sly? That answer should help inform you whether you are an enabler or not.

Let me be frank. I don't care what you think. Until you live somewhere, experience something, study something, and if not come into a conversation with the view that you most likely aren't in the know, you're opinions are largely worthless... to me.

And FYI. During the pandemic some of my white friends let their new found ability to say racist stuff due to the atmosphere Trump created, free them of their inhibitions. I made the decision to first let them know and if they continued to separate them from my life. The stuff you write in these posts and propagate in this thread are equally offensive, even more so that you are a Nigerian. So, this is my last post to you and no need to respond to me as I won't to you. Pax.

Been thinking about US power. Was in Panama and I was impressed with the level of development. When I visited the museum I realized it was largely due to the Panama Canal which the US completed/owned (great impact of US economy and International Trade) up until Carter negotiated to give back to them in 2000. Didn't know any of this. The whole Panama locks (way or raising/lowering ships for the two differing levels of bodies of water) was very impressive. Anyhow, thought of our Politics and whether the US could do anything like that nowadays. I think the US considers Ukraine in the same vain (necessary for economic development). Learned most of this during a guided tour of a museum and the Locks, so if I'm off let me know. Pics below.

budaatum:
The only person he's bullying here is you. Most of us deal with its childishness by ignoring it because it's attempt at bullying is inconsequential and ineffective.

Most don't read what it writes, nor your responses to it. It will burn out once you stop fuelling it with your attention and time.

It's actually not just an attempt to bully me. And, by saying that it's like you're purposefully covering your eyes. He does it to other people as well. And it's destructive lies he makes up. And that's the only reason why I decided to push back more. But honestly, it's allowed to happen because he feels comfortable here, and has the likes of basilico, ben, etc. to support him. And the majority of posters here, don't push back when they do. So, this forum and thread has allowed his bullying.

budaatum:
I think it's time to start reporting you for derailing this thread since you seem too weak to ignore the troll you are enabling.

Its childish playing who got biggest diq! Consider.

It's not about weakness, it's about allowing someone to bully people and sit by and watch, which some on this forum seem to be comfortable with. Not everyone has my strength or "your" strength to not let it affect them. You seem to be complaining to the wrong person, try the Mods.

SlyFoxxEternity:
What kind of man even dresses like this? pink tights?

Bro if you’re going to fake pictures at least don’t pick the ones that make you look like a flaming homosexual. Even though we all know you’re one.

A man who's comfortable with himself that is...
As I said, you keep typing and keep exposing yourself. Build your career, make better friends and you'll understand that style. Keep up with your Yahoo life and you'll continue to think pants hanging off your ass with shoes embezzled with Burberry is stylish.
I keep saying you're a loser and you keep proving it.

CoolUsername:
There's always some boogeyman manipulating events behind the scenes whenever people disagree with you.

You have been taking about, crt, banning books, etc. etc. It's like a conservative hit list of nonsense. Most of it makes me dumber just reading.
Like basilico talking about Biden releasing oil from the Reserve. Opening his mouth without understanding 1.) It drove gas prices down/ 2.)He sold it at the height of the oil market. And if he buys it back (to refill it) anywhere lower, he will be making money for the US. A win-win. And also complaining as if Biden caused the oil issue when Gas companies recorded record profits. Double that of 2019.

Or his new take on what is happening in Ohio. In one breath blaming Biden for not regulating an industry(It was Trump who cut back on the train regulations) without mentioning it is a Republican state and a state issue (you know republicans are against Federalism). But he will argue next week that there is too much regulation.

As, I said, it's performance politics, without a core understanding of the issues, nor even a plan to make it better.

SlyFoxxEternity:
Lmao. You colossal dunce. Did you not see that all other posts of mine were deleted? How was you fake getaway with your imaginary girlfriend?

More from of my "Fake, Poverty Stricken" Life
Pic 1: Did drinks from every recommended bar on Casco Antiquo. Bad idea..
Pic 2: Donde Jose - The best truffle popcorn I've had anywhere. Addictive.

SlyFoxxEternity:
Welcome back bro. I too was at the Panama Waldorf Astoria. Was hoping to bump into you and hang out. Maybe next time

Lying fool.

Really, why would you do this to yourself. I say you live in a delusional world and lie about everything and you want to prove it to me. Yeah, the Waldorf was ok. Panama, beautiful. Maybe when you get your ducats up, you can visit.
Pic(Tales of a Poverty Stricken Life): View from my "supposed" ocean view room. Her: I'll be ready in 5 minutes. Me: 30 minutes later asleep.

SlyFoxxEternity:
Welcome back bro. I too was at the Panama Waldorf Astoria. Was hoping to bump into you and hang out. Maybe next time

Lying fool.

Wtf? I just got on here. You are a world class stalker. Looked at my mentions and nothing but you. In fact here is your recent post history. There is my name and I'm sure all those moderated(deleted) posts mention me too.

Enugurangers:
Romney is more centrist than Biden. Am I right?

I dislike the word Centrist. What is the center between one person wanted to kill someone and one wanting not to? I think he is more socially conservative.

The last few pages of this thread. Rupert Murdoch would be proud his fact-free propaganda extends to Nigeria.

saxywale2:
I somehow missed missed this post since it wasn't directly addressed to me. Let me give you a clue. I will vote for a Romney over a Biden. Go figure.

But Romney was also the Governor of MA, one of the more liberal states, and the inventor or ObamaCare. I do think he would have been a competent President. But, Biden isn't reflexively liberal as well.

benalvino3:
I am worried he may hurt himself.
Let him breathe a little. you know he is a cuck.
it will be like hitting a woman. don't get me wrong, some women deserve to be hit but a strong man will show a lot of restraint.

Look, the three stooges of Nairaland have arrived. Mr. dumb (dumbass Sherlock Holmes), Dumber (Ben), and Dumberer (Sly).
My "Poverty Stricken Life" greets you from the poolside of the Panama Waldorf Astoria while I'm waiting for my girl to land.

SlyFoxxEternity:
Hahahahahahaha. Look at a what I found

You have been this way since 2017 “I live in America you don’t” honestly do you have any other comeback apart form this? You’re a real one-trick pony. Nobody in this world has been to America apart from you?

The slightest confrontation and the first thing that comes out of your mouth is “waaaa I live in America waaaaa you have never been here” like a primary school child.

Hahahha. You’re such an infant I swear.

Holy Sh*t. It is 6am in Nigeria and you are READING my posts from 2017? Holy Sh*t. You ARE an ABSOLUTELY f*cking Loser and Lunatic.

SlyFoxxEternity:
Dumbass. Look up the meaning of hypocrite in the dictionary. You sent this message at 4:00 am Nigerian time (10pm Boston time) on a Friday evening!!! And you have the guys to criticize me for same thing.

You see why everyone here says you lack commons sense?

Yeah, maybe you can read the definition seeing it's 5:00am Nigerian time and you are writing message after message to someone who barely responds to you. I bet 99% of everything you write has my name in it. You may want to seek help to figure out why.

The difference between you and I. I was posting while waiting for a flight. Now, posting on the flight. And I'll make sure that when I'm back in the US to post more pics of this vacation and my poverty stricken life...just for you.

Enugurangers:
Sinema only cares about her donors. Santos has no value to her.

She cares about presenting this image that she can work with anyone. Like she chose to sit next to Mitt Romney during the SOTU and was pictured having dinner with Kevin McCarthy.

SlyFoxxEternity:
Dunderhead like you calling another persons argument weak. Countdown to how long before you start screaming “you have never been to America” like a fool. Juvenile dunce like you.

I see your mental institution gave you your internet privileges back. What is this your 10th new username this month? Don't you get tired? Normal single guys on a Friday night, would maybe hit the gym, maybe pregame and then go out. You, create a new username, open up a thread of a country you have never been and stalk people. And you do all of it from your tiny phone. Are you well? Serious question, Are you well? If you are not on medication, you should be.

CoolUsername:
And this was a legal execution??

Huh? You're regressing. The argument with Floyd is that he did _______ and therefore it somehow excuses the officers actions. But that is the point of our law system. Even murderers get to stand trial. And a lot of white murderers seem to make it to trial alive.

Raskimonojendor:
If America is finished or dying of falling as you all said, then Nigeria is inside Hell fire.

I see that the only thing driving some people to this thread is to see America die.

The below is currently on Nairaland front page.

Right, this thread is at times, unfortunately, comical.

Enugurangers:
This guy is what they call a pathological liar. He makes the former president look like a learner.

The problem is I'm not sure Sinema wouldn't do that. Who to believe. Tough one.

CoolUsername:
I didn't say she was killed because she was a republican, I'm saying that you're suddenly OK with bringing up her past because she was a republican.

This is a rather weak argument on your part. There is a huge difference when you are arguing against extra-judicial killings

uncleck:
When is WW3 starting? Civilization need to be destroyed so every part of the world will have equal opportunity to develop

What would change in Nigeria? What is holding Nigeria back from developing now? Why are we talking about cows walking down main roads in 2023? What ails Nigeria is of Nigerians making (yes a lot having to do with the past colonialism as well).

1stGenAmerican:
There’s a reason why the country has the leaders it does. Some of the citizens talk like terrorists. Praising China, a country that is loaning their leaders money with crazy terms that their leaders are using to buy China’s old trains and build rails using materials bought from China. How do you borrow money from a country and spend it buying things from that same country? China is sending people to Africa that don’t respect Africans yet these guys are praising the country that wants to colonize their homeland.

Yup. When there is no accountability you can make those type of deals. I always try to understand the mindset of a Nigerian that can see how China and Russia treats it's citizens domestically yet praises them as if that's a governmental style to emulate.

The more topics like this I read, the more I fear Nigeria really does deserve the government it has.
Too many crazy sounding posters who seemingly fill their time reading the dregs of right wing propaganda from a country thousands of miles away and uncritically swallowing it whole.

IMAliyu2:
I ironically still find books intimidating to this day, some leftovers school trauma I guess.

I've pieced together the History from a combination of different video essays.
This two I'd say are the best imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uPVLC5b768

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgrVHrTvxC8

And tediously going over the wikipedia pages of the First and Second republic, as well as the individual pages of the people credited for our independence, the subsequent military coups, and the individual heads of state to the present.

Thanks. Will listen to them. Audio Books are great for long journeys as well.
Any other additions from any one else would be great.

IMAliyu2:
Something of a unifying narrative/identity can go a long way towards building a better country. Which is what current day Nigeria doesn't have.
A reason secessionism keeps growing I think.

An idea of a Nigeria has to be sold to the people, wiether it's a grand ideas of becoming a real life Wakanda, or something that's just an economic and security union of convenience.

What I learned from Nigerian history is that it wasn't always like that. During and after our struggle for independence.
There existed a sense of nationalism based off an anti colonial and anti imperial sentiment. A drive for self determination, as well as ideas of Pan-Africanism, was present in our political class.
That died out during the series of military coups (and discovery of oil) that came after independence, and left us with a generation of a cynical and power grabbing political class, with no ideas or ideals.

Can you recommend a history book? Would like to get more familiar with Nigeria's history.

FreddieGray:

From your writing, It's obvious you're not bright.
I won't be educated by the likes of yourself that depends on ludicrous speculations and hearsays.
It's just stupid.

I guess when your formal education is TikTok and 4chan, you're truly omniscient.
If you ever land in the US, you'll understand how truly nonsensical your take is.

seunny4lif:
Oh now you want to bring Nigeria matter.
Well more people have been killed in USA in 2022 more than Nigeria.
Maybe your head need support to balance from shaking, to allow you to do research and know that more people have been killed in USA in 2022 than even Syria that is in civil war , because CNN wouldn’t report that to you.

C'mon. You can't really believe this.

FreddieGray:
I agree with most of the things you said.
Given the current realities, the US would not survive a war with China.
That's the bottomline.
They were shamelessly defeated in Afghanistan. The talibans sent them running like monkeys with tails in between thier legs.
Those American soldiers died in vain.. survivors end up homeless with PTSD.


Exactly o!!!
They're depending on the lack of intelligence of their followers to sell this embarrassment as a competent and reasonable strategy.

One Ode suffering from inferiority complex keeps saying he (US sec of defense) is a millitary officer 'paid to think'
That's a waste of taxpayers money as the collective US leadership have shown they're in fact incapable of very basic thinking.
The millitary officers of the countries you consider to be inferior are paid to fry buns abi?

This fellow also used nairaland to tell me that nairaland is for broke peoole that do not think...can you just imagine
Everyone look at map o.
It transited over the Pacific Ocean before it got to Montana.
The US could have detected it and shot it down as soon as it got to the US territorial waters.




Did they shoot it down in international waters?
They could have shot it down in international waters before it got to the US or they could have shot it down as soon as it got to the US marine territorial boundary in the Pacific Ocean.
Does this mean any country can fly a 'spy balloon' through the Pacific ocean because the US is scared?

This is a moronic take. If the US military allowed it over the US, they already understood it's capabilities and chose to allow it. I don't blame you though, when you live in Nigeria and all you see is incompetence, why wouldn't your mind believe everyone else is equally incompetent.