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benalvino3:
A SOBBING rapist who attacked a 13-year-old girl in a park walked free from court today. he is 21 now, walks free. its okay to rape a girl if it is your 1st time per the judge's ruling.

UK is shiiit.

This is the "American politics" thread. You may want to open up a new thread called British politics thread or UK is "shiit" thread.

Obrigardo:
This guy Fafo'd real hard.
You would never imagine this guy had a powerful position just a short time ago.

Wtf? He should have fled the country.

This is a big step.

I think Republicans are finally getting it. The heightened libel standards and the protections offered to even libelous right wing media, keeps them in business. Removing them will hurt Right Wing Media outlets who often lie, (Fox etc) far far far more than Liberal Media. Look at all the lies in this thread and the current Fox News case.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/03/us/politics/desantis-defamation-libel-laws-florida.html

Obrigardo:
Massachusetts is the place to be. A real Democratic Haven.

Yeah, nice state. But very expensive.. well Boston that is. And Boston is still sorting out it's racist past. But it's telling outside of Utah, the top 10 states are all Democratic. So.. it is true. Vote Republican.. you'll die earlier. The funny thing is this is true with Education and Wealth.

Was looking through the rankings in this article of the Top US States With Longest Life Expectancy. And surprisingly there's mostly a commonality between the top 10 ranked states and the 10 worst ranked states. I'm sure you can pick it out.

https://www.lifeextension.com/wellness/lifestyle/best-us-states-for-long-life-expectancy

okuta007:
gerrarrrrrahhhhiaaaaa meen - cnn pikin

I've reduced you to rambling incoherently. It's hard to discuss things when you get all your news from tikk tok posts, innit.
Here's a recent poll on your majority of Americans.

Majority of Americans Think Trump Investigations are Fair…Three in Four Say Trump Did Something Wrong
https://maristpoll.marist.edu/polls/donald-trump-investigations/?cid=eml_firstread_20230328

I think the narrative that the Trump indictment is some never seen political targeting is an indictment on the Media. Trump has called for Bill Clinton, Obama, and Hilary Clinton to be prosecuted, led chants "lock her up" and asked Bill Bar to prosecute Obama and Clinton. While the House Republicans are currently investigating Biden's son, a current President who is running for President. I wish the media would call it out or ask those who are making the argument to explain the hypocrisy.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/04/01/trump-ceded-moral-high-ground-presidential-indictments-long-ago/

Obrigardo:
Hey basilico, saw this from one of your right wing punks. What do you think?

No US president has went to a British coronation.

Obrigardo:
I thought I was the only one thinking about this..

I have a strong feeling Olaadegbu is mentally challenged.

The amount of nonsense posts here.. for sure.

okuta007:
why not quote New York Post or Fox News or NewsMax - bloody assh ole

And you wonder why you are so uninformed. The Wall St. Journal, owned by Rupert Murdoch who also owns Fox News isn't crazy right wing enough for you? Lol. It must suck being you. Being so emotionally invested in something that you have to stick your hands in your ears and cover your eyes to keep from hearing/reading info that goes against the propaganda you believe.

okuta007:
I stopped reading at that point bolded

So Republican Texas is a poor State ? So Florida is a poor State ? And these States are less educated ? you are simply insane….

Of course you stopped reading after that.
I think you missed the qualification "usually" in that sentence. Those two states you listed are outliers and even they aren't as educated as the most educated Blue states.

But I think I read you lived in the US. If you do, you should be better informed about the socioeconomics of the country you live. But I assume all you watch is Fox news and other alt-right sources. There is no incentive for them to say that red states(their viewers) are generally poorer or less educated. In fact, Trump states usually get more from the Federal government than they give(you know Welfare, Socialism). In fact the counties that Biden won account for 70% of the US GDP.

Get more informed and it may be a better discussion.

Here is the conservative Wall Street Journal.
Biden Counties Account for 70% of U.S. GDP
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/latest-updates-biden-trump-election-2020/card/32vHNFTTc2xxNr7NITHY

OLAADEGBU:
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Seems there are a lot of mentally ill people in Nigeria. Or does Nairaland just attract them.

okuta007:
so you are the majority of Americans? who made you the speaker for majority of Americans? is it 2024 yet? where and what mechanism did you arrive at your conclusion? you just jump into nairaland and start typing before you think.

Yes - within the Republican Party there were never Trumpers even before he won the 2016 elections and they were more of them then than now - and non of them ever gave him a chance - and those Never Trumpers in Congress like Liz Cheney who took their anger and disdain for Trump too far lost their Republican primaries - I guess you do not know who Liz Cheeney is - daughter of the former powerful Republican Vice President of the U.S. --- Go and mark this down - until Donald Trump retires from politics - hopefully in 2028 after completing his second term - the Republicans will have to deal with losing the primaries/ nomination to him and even after he leaves office- any republican who openly talks against Trump will be summarily retired from politics - Go ask Ted Cruz, as powerful as he is - he needed Trump in 2018 to win in Texas as Beto almost ran him over - Trump had to show up in Texas to appeal to his MAGA followers to forgive Ted Cruz for his 2016 attacks on him before the elections... Trump according to you is a loser, yet his personal media spokeswoman is the current Governor of the State of Arkansas ---- Sarah Huckabee Sanders - she won as a MAGA Republican - His personal Doctor while at the white house today is Republican Congress man from Texas - His close associate is a Senator now from the State of Ohio JD Vance - Even Governor Ron De Santis owes his first victory over Democrat Gilium in Florida to the Trump effect -- as then he was barely an unknown Congress man - Trump made him a star!!!!


Dude, you do not know politics - IF you want to know a powerful politician - check out the people he puts in office through the ballot due to his popularity - from nowhere - Donald Trump today can make anyone a State Governor - Senator - Congress man or even a top politician with enormous powers just by mentioning the name at his rallies - IF that doesn't make you respect the man - then you are blinded by pure hate - NO REPUBLICAN TODAY WANTS TO TALK AGAINST DONALD TRUMP WHEN THEY HAVE AN ELECTION COMING UP BECAUSE THEY WILL LOSE - that is frightening - This is a man who has a huge base and a clear message - and in American politics it is all about the message and Trump has the message that resonates with tens of millions of Americans and that is why the democrats lose sleep anytime the name TRUMP is mentioned

Yeah, one us is typing without thinking. Your post is all over the place.
You should start with the basics. Pull up a map of the US and look at each state. Look at the demographics of them. Republicans states are usually poorer and less educated. Then figure which of those states actually matter electorally... Swing States. Start there and you'll understand why Huckabee won her race.

Now go through the midterm election in those swing states, look at the polling. Go through the crosstabs and look at who actually voted for Trump's candidates. The problem is that Trump's people generally win the primaries. Because people who vote in primaries are usually the ultra committed in the party. And since he has a cult. They all show up to vote in the primaries. That's not a good thing. As I said, Trump is crazy, his followers are crazy and the people he endorses are crazy. Georgia(now a swing state) is a good example of that. Republican voters split their ticket in 2022. They voted Republican for Governor(a person who didn't support Trump) and voted Dem or didn't vote for the Senate candidate Herschel Walker who Trump endorsed. His candidates in the Swing States did horribly. Even JD Vance had a tough election in a state that is now considered a Republican State.

But it gets worse. If you look at those exit polling cross tabs, you will see he lost big among woman, especially educated suburban woman. Now tell me how a trial for paying off a porn star who he slept with while his wife was pregnant helps him win back educated suburban woman? It's a wrap.

Trump's daughter. Very telling statement from someone who knows him well.

Valoromega:
I don't see the issue here, they had sex In 2006 which they both of them adults consented to. I don't understand why a jury would indict him, not like he raped her.
Na wa for America

Confused. A law was created saying "X" is illegal. If he did X, the Jury has to indict him for breaking that law. The principle in the US is that no one is above the law. And quite peculiarly, the supposed "law and order" party is arguing that some laws shouldn't matter.

okuta007:
you do not understand anything ---- When Trump said in 2016 - I can shoot someone dead on 5th Avenue and will not lose a single vote - you thought he was crazy right ? Trump is the next US president - the earlier you start dealing with it the better for you

In the Republican field - he has 54% approval to take the nomination ticket and his closes rival De Santis is 24% and the others are sharing miserable 22% including former VP Pence - former Sec. Mike Pompeo and even Niki Haley - And as of Today - DeSantis has not officially entered the race because the numbers do not favor him to take the ticket - He is a product of the Trump MAGA Philosophy and whatever he is today - Trump made him politically - and he is scared of getting that backlash from the MAGA wing of the Republican Party IF he decides to run in 2028 after TRUMP tenure ends ----- because he needs every vote to win in 2028 --- what does that tell you ?

Even if Trump is convicted next week - he will still be on the ballot - and HE WILL WIN ---- even the Washington Post is saying this is a dumb move by democrats as it is only gonna get more sympathy votes for Trump

And TRUMP thrives in controversy - he is not your everyday politician who chickens out when you punch him - he fights back and fights really really dirty as a New Yorker - know this and know peace

AND - I said earlier "Even if Trump is convicted next week - he will still be on the ballot - and HE WILL WIN" - please refer to the video below - coming from a Former US Federal Attorney, a democrat for that matter - if you do not have data - just watch -- 11:30 -11:45 minutes so you do not argue blindly here - happy viewing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IebAgxn7DJw

Trump is not winning a general election. Period. A majority of Americans just want him to go away. Americans will not vote for a 2x impeached, probably 3x indicted ex President who launched an insurrection. Mainstream Republicans are scared witless right now. He will win the Republican nomination (which says a lot about the morality in the Republican party) and he will again lose the General. You don't have to take my word, just look at the push for Desantis even on Fox News.

Since Trump came to office, Republicans have lost the House, the Senate, the White House, State Houses, Governorships etc etc. They only won the House in 2022 due to some extreme Republican gerrymandering. He's a loser of a candidate.

ifihearam:
LOL
is Bragg not hand picked by Soros?

So you cant see whats going on?

Here's some facts for you.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/31/politics/trump-soros-bragg-color-of-change/index.html

Trump at his lying again.
Bragg wanted to have him processed today, which was smart. Gives Trump's base less time to mobilize to NY . Trump claimed the Secret Service needed more time to be able to bring him to NY. Secret Service basically says that is a lie, they could have had in NY today. Trump clearly wants to be processed on Tues to give him more time to inflame his base and of course raise money from his idiotic base.

exnovio:
Democrats are the APC of the US,the real Satan advocates.they are trying to bring this man down, because they are scared he will win and reclaim his stolen mandate next year.and expose their devilish agendas.
God bless Donald Trump
God bless America
God bless me

I think the connection between the parties is which garnered more of the vote of the educated voters.
In Nigeria I believe the LP won the vote of those were educated. In the US, the Dem party won the vote of those educated.
Your analogy is suspect.

No one knows what the charges actually are. Everyone in the media is guessing as the indictment is sealed. The media didn't even know the indictment was coming yesterday, until it did. In fact I believe most of the narrative is being pushed by the Trump side. As he did with last week's arrest date (to raise money). Trump is a masterful propagandist and media manipulator.

The US legal system is robust. This is the first stage. He was indicted by a majority of a grand jury of citizens who were presented charges by the DA. He will have a jury trial where he will have to be convicted by a unanimous Jury of 12 randomly selected people. His Defense team will have the opportunity to question and reject a larger pool of potential jurors to get to that 12. Even before that he has the opportunity to file motions to the Judge to dismiss the charges or reduce the charges if they aren't up and up. He can also appeal that decision to the NY Supreme court and whatever Constitutional issues he has he can fight all the way to the US Supreme Court (where there is a 6-3 conservative majority). And he is wealthy and connected. The US system is weighted towards people like that. Who can afford top lawyers. It's the people without who usually get railroaded.

My take: The reason why Republicans are pushing this so hard, outside of it being the 1st case, is that this is the only case where there is no chance of a pardon. This is a NY state charge and unless something absolutely amazing happens, there will never be a Republican NY Governor. GA has a Republican Governor, so even if he is charged there, there is a chance he can convince that Governor to pardon him. And the Special Counsel investigation being Federal can be pardoned by a President. So, he can pardon himself or be pardoned by the next Republican president.

Obrigardo:
Ijebos, I had the email lady dancing her rocks off.

Lol. Mr. Lock her up.

I guess he was right about being indicated on a Tues. He spoke it into existence.

PDPGuy:
Not a fan of Trump, but 70% of Independents believe the NY Grand Jury process against Trump is more about politics than rule of law.. That may be to Trump’s advantage in a general election campaign

He has the Special Council investigation of Jan. 6 an which seems may turn into a conspiracy charge. Has the GA election fraud case which may also turn into a conspiracy charge.

It's just too much. He most likely has a ceiling of voters he can win over. Trump is not winning a general. Mainstream Republicans are probably pissed this went first as it may bolster his chances of being the nominee. But not sure the details of this one but the other 2 are very serious. I'm sure if you polled those same Independents, they probably just want him to go away.

Obrigardo:
Deathsantis the liar aha!

You see what he sneakily did with Disney? Deathsantis knew Disney is already ironclad but he has a way of gaslighting the magats. They have been onto him and some of the eagle eyed maga cultists have seen his deception.

This is funny

He's good at playing the tough guy when there are no consequences. Trump will surrender and Disney did him in.

Kim Jung Desantis

kkins25:
I will answer not as a demo or republican, but as a biologist; a fetus is indeed a living thing since it possesses all features of living things. But, is it human? Now that's the real horn of the issue.

Argument: "My body is my choice"

counter 1: holds logic like a basket holds water. A very strawman argument. Scientifically speaking, a fetus is human because it possesses all chromosomes of a human. If a fetus is a human as recognized by science, then killing a fetus will be equivalent to killing a human.

Very weak argument. All your arguments are lacking. Your counter to "My body is my choice" doesn't even directly address the argument.

Background. I'm Christian. But all these arguments pro abortion flow from my body my choice. So, until someone addresses that substantially by making a compelling argument, I can't logically oppose abortion. You fell way short here.

Obrigardo:
Trust me, the magat won't take the L or even read to educate himself. He will double down on his willful ignirance.
These people are a disgrace.

Agreed... Wasn't going to but the part of me that likes information won out. I'm curious though which obfuscation point he will employ. Lol.

Drameeja:
Obrigardo said the biden regime created over 11 million jobs in 2 years.
The both of you are yet to provide proof to this claim...

You came into this discussion discussing US job losses. The actual US employment figures would seem like something you'd want to be aware of first right? In fact it would have taken you a couple of minutes just to google. What is the point of trying to discuss something if you don't take the time to inform yourself first?

Here, i'll do you this one time courtesy of doing your work for you. And since all the numbers and statistics and actual data on the BLS site may proof too confusing for you I'll just add a headline from an article.

And it's from that unabashedly liberal site called Blomberg.. Yeah that was sarcasm.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-03/biden-hails-strongest-job-growth-in-history-as-hiring-surges?leadSource=uverify%20wall

Biden Lauds ‘Strongest Job Growth in History’ as Hiring Surges
US added 517,000 jobs in January, clouding inflation fight

But President Joe Biden seized on the report as unabashedly good news for his economic agenda ahead of an expected reeelection bid, hailing data showing the US economy added 517,000 new jobs in January, blowing out estimates. The fresh numbers pushed total job gains under Biden’s term — which began in the depths of the pandemic — to 12 million.

Drameeja:
FAKE NEWS!

I only listed a few among so many.

Can you do same?

Oya say the names of the companies that provided the imaginary employments...

Huh? You want me to list all the US companies that employ people?

The Bureau of Labor Statistics collects and reports all employment information. https://www.bls.gov/

Drameeja:
FAKE NEWS!

Job losses are now common in gringoland

Try this, take the number of those laid off in your article(95,000) and divide that by the number of employed Americans (~131,000,000). Tell me what percentage that is. That will be the percentage of those laid off to the overall percentage of people working. I'll let you do math. Let me know if you need help with it.

The problem in the US isn't employment at the moment, it's the FED's belief that in order to tame inflation they need to increase the unemployment rate by 1% and that's what they are doing by increasing the interest rates. And the FED is a wholly independent agency whose Chair(Powell) is a Republican reappointed by Biden (Dems will be Dems, see how well Comey worked out). The fear in the Biden circle should be that the FED causes these layoffs in the midst of the 2024 campaign and that these layoffs don't stop at a 1% increase in the unemployment rate.

benalvino3:
Because of that snake role you played, you were crying the other time how you are not where you want to be in life because of the white man. You are a victim of yourself and you are a snake who brought that upon yourself.

You are such a TRASH person. You are so intellectually stunted, the minute someone calls you out on something, you resort to making up lies or recounting stories about people's personal lives, family, etc. You have no real moral center. A TRASH person through and through.