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I imagine Bill Barr's reign over the Justice Dept. is a good exemplar of how Nigerian's government can be so fuxed up. Fortunately in the US, we have a stronger legal system - judges and jury trials that checked some of these abuses.

Bill Barr’s Image Rehab Is Kaput
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During his 22 months in office, he allowed his Justice Department to become a personal protection racket for his boss, Donald Trump, and left prosecutors, the F.B.I. and other law enforcement officials subject to the worst impulses of the president. But then, in his 2022 memoir, Mr. Barr did an about-face, bashing Mr. Trump for lacking a presidential temperament and singling out his “self-indulgence and lack of self-control.”
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But if Mr. Barr harbored any fantasy that he might yet be credited with a wisp of personal integrity for standing up for democracy, that hope was thoroughly demolished on Thursday when The Times published the details of what really happened when Mr. Barr launched a counter-investigation into the origins of Robert Mueller’s report on the 2016 Trump campaign’s ties to Russia. The reporting demonstrated a staggering abuse of the special counsel system and the attorney general’s office, all in a failed attempt by Mr. Barr to rewrite the sour truths of Mr. Trump’s history.

It's a good read.
(Paywall free Link)
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/30/opinion/william-barr-durham-report.html?unlocked_article_code=VA-4FhG4mmAkzXOf1MV80gdxVR9MDkctlzh8j-JoJw3nwJIi0YRosStQrdFut_OXrubZ5iSJzP-Q9_Y4oRDQ_FepjuYKQDeqjpEKq9uNE1vNc3doZ_dWp8f84QeFw1MRBzHWC4XATZ1x7nrxi4nw1ZlLxHMFajanjpOKDdJ4S9NgHT-CbbS3s_LOoj1h-SZAVgAD4KSOloWi-mpd7vV9VBcHJMAuk35YjONXUOZwE3lbpROLWtFVCqOSyh_7Fr10qtAa4t4CEkBQmkqbfglJyH9y4xfzdbvlU755vJhugCfWcoU5h2hLMBOIYqdlo-l_cP_nDo3zWM0LUbFOArGINTzW9Uk&smid=share-url

While we are here talking about implied biases, Sly, the moment he's upset gives us a lesson in Tribalism. Imagine, he's only 15 and already comfortable being a bigot.

raumdeuter:
Gingrich did not impeach Clinton for having an affair, he was impeached for lying under oath. Clinton denied having affairs with Ms Lewinsky while placed under oath

Won't argue with you as you're not factually wrong though your statement doesn't do Gingrich's role in that saga justice.
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Dennis Hastert
Matt Schlapp
Jerry Fallwell jr.

Jim Jordon on meet the press. Impressed that Chuck Todd actually hit him with facts rather than let him ramble on with his talking points. Reminds me of discussions on this forum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZn_dkYFgOA

raumdeuter:
You don't see the left mocking the right as the party of family values?

The left sees family as patriarchal that should be abolished

If you go on Google and just search liberals against family. You will see more than a few articles

I think the left mocks the hypocrisy of the right saying they are the party of family values. Ex. Newt Gingrich was having an affair as he was attacking Clinton for having an affair.

I think your thesis is overbroad.

IMAliyu2:
I do remember a study that showed that black men were more likely to receive more severe sentencing for the same crime compered to someone of another race.
This was the case regardless of the race of the judge and jury members.
[I'll link source later I'm on freebasic rn]

Tribalism as in white people still identify with and discriminate on their European ethnicities?

I meant tribalism in Nigeria. Mistype. Meant just as Tribalism is still alive and well in Nigeria, Racial bias is alive and well in the US. That there are people who are still alive who went to segregated schools and people still alive who tried to physically prevent people from going to school when they were integrated(Jerry Jones). So, they would have children who were probably thought the same thing. etc. etc.

Yeah, has been some good scholarship on that. Here was one. Some of it is obviously wealth or lack of it, but also disparate treatment in law, etc. etc.
https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/assets/141027_iachr_racial_disparities_aclu_submission_0.pdf

benalvino3:
this is disgraceful. The last time I talked about the chicken you asked me a question and I answered, the other time I was trolling you by saying you are enjoying Hennessy in a hotel while I am with my chickens

I got interested because Basilico mentioned once that he had chickens.

I am not saying I am enjoying chickens or I am better than anyone because I have chickens anyone can go to a store and buy for 5k, I was only saying I had many that I shared with friends and family this festive period. that is not bragging. So you think I am showing off? lol, you really need to grow up sha.

My point isn't that you were showing off, but that is also my point. My point is that everything is about perspective (bias). To you and your friends, raising those amount of chickens and then giving away isn't a big deal, for some less fortunate than you, they may perceive it as showing off because they couldn't afford to do that. Like the car stories I told. I had the same conversation with friends in Lagos about getting pulled over in Nigeria, told the same stories and they told their own stories. Similar experiences. No one thought anyone was showing off. Everything boils down to perspective and implicit bias. I hope you can understand that.

benalvino3:
Nigeria is no worse than the US for your information. People are surviving even if things are hard.
the is more homelessness in your heaven than in the US, more suicide, etc... let's just enjoy life oh... you saying in the US does not mean you are happier, or better than anyone that is not staying in the US.

Sorry, Nigeria is much worse than the US. And not everyone is surviving. I'm not sure what metric you are using. And I hope you are saying it's not because of patriotic sentiments. But even more of a reason to visit the US and get more perspective.

And I can live in the US, recognize that it affords more economic opportunities than Nigeria, appreciate the opportunities I was blessed with and also not believe I am better than anyone not living in the US or that the US is better than Nigeria. I've never said that, so you should probably stop putting words in my mouth.

benalvino3:
Because I have not been to the US so when I say Tyre was killed by 5cops, it must not be true even if I read in on the news, social media or see it on TV. For it to be true, I have to get a visa and come to the US first.

Were you alive 400 years ago? Did you experience slavery or both of us are at the mercy of the historians?
This is why I said you have poop mentality and you need to grow up.

In the US, you are in Boston. You can't have opinion on what's going on in Memphis because you are Not there.

University professors today cannot define what a woman is, they are claiming men can have babies and period and you are happy they are brainwashing you.

That post was a stream of nonsense. Until you explain why cultural anthropologists go live in the place they are studying, everything else you say sounds silly.

One more thing. You regularly post about the chickens you raised. Regularly post about how you give most of them away. So, regularly, I asked you about them. Let me ask you, how is that not showing off esp. given this isn't a chicken topic. Esp. for those that in this time of Nigerian economic distress and food insecurity, those who probably can't afford a chicken? Again how is that not showing off that not only you have so many but that you are so benevolent you can give them out? Again, figure out why me talking about my experience with Naija police has you triggered and feels like me showing off while you talking about all the chickens you have and give away is not. I know the answer.

benalvino3:
You can't tell me how to speak. Also, I don't need history to know that 5black cops killing an innocent black man has nothing to do with 400years ago and the negros who were in the plantation. It has nothing to do with the trauma of slavery they did not witness.

You don't need history to have common sense

Also, no family and friends spend time with you does not invite you to start sending me photos of Benz.

I said that because of the time you were spending here was more than all of us combined. It is nice that you don't spend much time here anymore.

Leave the thread if you cannot handle basilico and I. You know the title of the thread right?

Any you know that how? From what experience or understanding are you speaking? None. So everyone who studies topics in University or cultural anthropologists who go live in a place to understand the culture are mumus because they should be like you and just pick up things by osmosis? In your quest to assuage your ego, you make yourself sound uneducated.

You shouldn't attack someone then if you can't handle what comes next. But, you're problem seems to be I can afford nicer things. Again, go talk to someone about that.

And the time I spent here more than you combined? Lol. Do I need to put up my chart of your online usage again?

benalvino3:
You are so immature I wonder if you have stop being breast fed.

First of all, you came here with poop mentality saying anyone who disagree with you and has not been to the US can't have an opinion. Because of that mentality, I said you sound like ode... Professional notice me. And you might not be in the US because you don't behave like someone over there. You put out a passport after our exchange. Okay, confirmed, since then you started using every little avenue to brag. The other time I didn't ask you. You brag about your certificates. I did not respond to you. You went on to brag you are eating crap I don't know and drinking crap someone gave you. I did not respond, then you post a meal you are having, I did not respond and you still went on to post a car which you were dragged and belittled for bragging with someone's car. I did not respond. Now we were talking about Nigeria and the police don't risk stopping a big man that may land them in trouble. You turned it into car contest. My paps this, my this, my girlfriend this.

By now you should know I don't give a blip about you. Even if you have 8 private jets, it does not affect my life in positive or negative way. I don't care, most people here don't care. Your enjoyment means nothing to me. Try to grow up.

Again, you, basilico and sly, speak with authority about and inundate this board with nonsense about topics like US politics, US racial bias, US racism and what black people face in the US. You don't have a US history degree, have never studied the US and have been to nor live in the US. Where does this authority come from? Nowhere that is. And yet you are trying to tell Nigerians living in the US what their lives are like and disqualify the issues they face. Humble yourself.

And as I said. This post below is how it all started. You and your ad hominems and of course your chickens (you see, if I chose to I could be nasty to you, but what does what you do in your spare time have to do with this thread?).

benalvino3:
You are allergic but you are almost here 247 looking for attention from those you claimed to be allergic to. poor you. No friends and family to spend your time with. You are more like the sonoflincoln

benalvino3:
You see as I stopped responding to him and how basilico summarize his bs. I have never seen someone like him in my life.

We were talking about police profiling and the fear they have for different class of people. Dude turns it into I am rich, dada is rich, babe is filthy rich. Why does someone feel they can't help themselves and brag up and down. The other day, I did not ask him o. He started showing off stuff to the point he embarrassed himself in a car. Na wao

Stop this silliness. I came to this topic and didn't discuss my personal life. Stayed away from where I went to school, what I do, where I work etc.. When did I start releasing some personal details? When you and your "idiot crew" decided you couldn't make rational arguments and thought ad hominin attacks were easier. I told you then you don't know my type and I would embarrass you with details of my life, if you continued. And yet here we are and here you continue. I'm not like Sly.. who lies with every breath… maybe that's what you're used to. The stuff I say I can verify.

And the topic we were discussing were police profiling people driving expensive cars. All the examples I gave were police profiling me and stopping/attempting to stop me while driving an expensive car. I thought the examples perfectly made my point. You should explore maybe with a counselor why someone discussing details like that seems like "showing off" to you.

And Honestly, you should reevaluate the people you seek affirmation from. The fact, you seek affirmation from someone who makes usernames and gets banned like he sips water, who viciously attacks people and their families in crude, depraved and disgusting ways, speaks more of you then them. And clearly, you've tried to walk in his shadow; how is that working out for you? But continue talking about my education, or what I do in my spare time, or how much money I have and we'll continue to have conversations when you feel like I'm "showing off". FYI, no amount of gaslighting/revisionist history will change how this began. Your posts are saved here.

IMAliyu2:
This i agree with.

The thing is black Americans have a disproportionately higher rate of poverty.
So the line between the racism and classism gets blurred.

But a tell for systematic racism would be if you had a black and white guy who were equally dressed and equally poor/rich, and you trow them in the same situation, would there be a more of less favorable treatment to one person over the other?
And how consistent is that difference in treatment?

Yes, two equally dressed people (you can't really tell rich/poor by appearance if equally dressed and manicured) are in the same situation, the black person will get treated worse in the US. Happens to me all the time. I was in a Staples picking up supplies in a dress shirt and slacks with other white people near me dressed the same way. Some white lady walked up to where I was and asked me if they had some item in stock as if I worked there. Lol.

Another perspective. Tribalism is still alive and well in the Nigeria (edited) in this generation. Why wouldn't the same racial tribalism still be around in the US, less than 60 years after the civil rights act was passed.

benalvino3:
Lol, for someone who always talk "you have not been to the US so you don't know or can't have an opinion" is here lecturing me about Nigeria.

By your logic or critical thinking skills, you obtained from Harvard University, you just schooled me with those 9 certificates you obtained from the faculty of professional victim.

by your logic, Police stop and harass rich people like dangote in hoping to get 1m and above from people like him.
Police do not fear what kind of connection that person may have or who may be in that very luxurious car, they just stop it and harass the occupant even when they know most of those cars sometimes carry an armed police officer in the front and most of the time the cars are tinted.

you are hilarious though.

I'm speaking of my experience driving expensive cars in Nigeria. I assumed that was the topic you were talking about. From which experience driving expensive cars are you speaking from?

Yes, I would have assumed what you thought, but I've had a couple of experiences that taught me otherwise. The only time I think you won't get stopped is when in a convoy of expensive cars w/ a Helix in front.
I've been pulled over in the East in my Dad's Mercedes SUV by road safety, while an overloaded bus, with mis-matched tires spewing black smoke was in front of me and didn't get stopped. By you theory who should have road safety pulled over?
And as you've mentioned I've been in that dangerous situation (out of movie) where someone attempted to stop me at a checkpoint while I had a mopo/soldier in the passenger seat in a tinted car. They quickly let us pass as the driver slowed down and the mopo opened the window and pulled up his gun.
I've been pulled over a couple of times while driving an expensive car in Lagos. I've been pulled over with my girl while she drove her expensive car in Lagos. I drove to the east one year from Lagos and we took my cousin's Sienna instead of a nicer car. And what was funny, though we got pulled over some (Christmas), the guy in front of us, was driving a Brand New red Mercedes GLE. And every checkpoint he would stop, roll down his window, drop cash and drive off. Lol. Because he knew it was more efficient than being forced to stop, arguing your case and saving 1or 2k. We kept laughing everything we saw him do that.
The difference from my experience is that they are somewhat more careful pulling over nicer cars. Like I can be somewhat more abusive with them esp. given my accent, because they aren't sure who I am. And as to Dangote, he would most likely be in a convoy with multiple Helixes if he were traveling.

SlyfoxxMadness:
Oh and if dem born you well go ahead and check in at oriental hotel and see how nutty I truly am. I have attached a detail there waiting for you. If you don’t spend at least 2 nights in a cell after you check in my name is not Sly. Just 2 nights. I don’t want to suffer you too much. Just enough to prove my point. But I will make sure you are anally raped by one of the inmates in that time.

I had to quote this craziness for posterity. This mess is nuts. From your constant depraved references to your delusions of grandeur. You are really living in a delusional world in your mind. Don't worry, I'll post pics(like I tend to do) when I'm in Naij just to show how impotent you really are. I'm sure you'll continue refreshing my profile page by the minute to stalk me from post to post. Good Luck with that. Back to ignoring you.

benalvino3:
black cops stopping black guys = a white racism problem.
A black bouncer stopping a black man = a white racism problem.

are you people gonna be victims forever?

even in Nigeria, if you are driving Hilux no police will stop you or road safety because they feel you are with a company. if you are driving Camry, they will stop you thinking you are transporting illegal PMS or diesel. if you are driving other cars, depending on how luxurious the car is, you will not be stopped.

You should really not speak about things you have 0 experience with. Yes, a black bouncer stopping a black person from entering a high end place in a city like Boston is generally fueled by implicit bias by white racism.

Also, you are wrong about luxury cars in Nigeria. Police will pull you over depending on how much money they think they can get from you. So a luxury car = a perception of getting more money.

Speaking from experience on both. You seem to speak about a lot of things you have 0 experience with.

benalvino3:
the topic was Police brutality and how CNN tries to deflect it to race war even though everyone in the situation was black.

why stop at implicit bias? why not go on further and say climate change? you use the word up and down and don't understand how it will affect blacks. because of implicit bias, you feel white people are holding you down, blacks are exposed to that narrative day in and day out. with all the anti-white information filled in them, one has to wonder how these black cops still went ahead to kill their brother. Ijebos says it's not their fault and uses implicitly biased to wash their sins. it's like someone killing 5 people and saying it's the devil that makes him do it. we know what the bible says, you shall pay for your sins... it says your sins, not the devil's sins. if you like the devil makes you do it... the fact that you didn't resist the devil is your fault.

you don't want to stand against blacks killing blacks. you want to excuse it. this is the problem with you folks.

1.) The significant news yesterday was the video drop of the Police beating. The fact that you think whatever CNN did or didn't do is the topic is a reflection on you and the propaganda bubble you live in.

2.) Comparing Implicit bias to climate change.. lol. Well done proving you really don't have a clue what you are talking about. The fact you don't understand why I brought up Nigeria, it's independence and the fact 60+ years later it still have issues, means you really haven't thought at all about why African Americans could still be struggling to reach the same economics levels Caucasians have. You're drifting in a shallow pool of right wing propaganda.

3.) Good job perpetuating the white mythology that African Americans don't deserve equal justice unless they reach some goal White American has set. You should get paid for this level of gaslighting.

4.) Here is another study for you.
Physicians and Implicit Bias: How Doctors May Unwittingly Perpetuate Health Care Disparities
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3797360/

benalvino3:
laugh wan kill me.
Blacks complain white people are putting them down, systemic racism here and there, then turn around and treat the white man better than they with treat their brother and then blame the white man for it

You act like it's different among Nigerians. Travel with an oyinbo anywhere. In fact just go to the airport and see the long lines for Nigerian Passport holders vs. those without a Passport. Your perspective seems to be limited.

benalvino3:
Whatever program you have started, if you come here making excuses for black men who kill other black men by blaming whites then your Organisation is stupid as Bleep.

Ibime has been dragged and cursed for siding with a white cop who shoot and killed a black girl in the process of killing another black girl. Your kind here were calling the cop racist for saving the life of a black girl from another black girl.



Everything is racism. LeBron is a good example of that. he has all the information, he knows what happened in Ohio, it is not just acceptable that a white man should use deadly force on a black person who wants to kill another black person. in other words, Blacks should kill each other up and down. it is okay as long as it's not whites that are doing it.



Five black men killed a black man, you are coming to tell me it is institutional bias. Are you saying it is normal? because these 5 black men are men the institution is biased against as well.

just as you know the institution is biased against you, they should know it is biased against them as well. and just as you convinced yourself that the white man is putting you down and other blacks, they should know the same and bond together to stand against the institution. but they have killed a man and you are tying it to the white man.



what does this have to do with the dude that died?
you said the bold not me and this is unrelated to what we are discussing.

Let's be clear this discussion is about the police involved killing of a black man. You brought up the issue of black on black violence as a deflection from that topic.

The fact that you think the implicit bias shown by black doctors is not related to why black cops would brutally beat a black man shows your lack of depth of this issue. I'll post a clip of a peer reviewed study.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4843483/

Lastly, let me put this in a more as$holy perspective. I live in an affluent neighborhood 15 minutes from the downtown in my city. 9/10 of my neighbors are white. We don't have significant issues of violence, crime etc. What issue effects me more? Being pulled over/beat up driving my "nice" car or some other African Americans killing themselves in the inner city? That's the asshole way of really thinking about it. Simply, why should my ability to protest to the government, issues that most affect my liberties depend on someone else and what they do? And what other community has to argue for their whole community for their rights? The fact you keep making the argument "why aren't we talking about other black on black violence" is in fact an implicit bias you've been trained to believe.

benalvino3:
I have been here complaining about how No one says anything when Blacks kill each other, How they sweep it under the rug and how it is a bigger problem for the black community than anything they face today. I have always been very vocal in calling out blacks who kill brothers, calling out whites who kill brothers and I am also calling out entities who try to deflect responsibility to other races especially when it has nothing to do with race.

By your stupid analogy that has nothing to do with this inhumane killing of Tyre, as you say black doctors discriminate against blacks as well... one could argue the Victim here Tyre would have loved to die in the hands of a white man. he is biased against his killers as they are biased against him.

unless you start to call a spade a spade, the black community in the US will be hell for blacks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ0QfLkjujY

To begin, you don't know what I've done or what organizations or programs I've started or am involved in trying to reduce/intervene in black on black/inner city violence. And if you did, you'd probably shut your mouth.

But the issue of Black on Black violence is different than violence based on institutional bias/racism. And your argument seems to be, we should be quiet about institutional racism until we wipe out Black on Black violence. How is that different than we should have been quiet about Institutionalized segregation until we had wiped out black on black violence? Or we should have been quiet about slavery until we wiped out black on black violence? Fortunately for you, you and your ilk didn't have that say.

Tell me this, Nigeria has been independent for 60 years. Why isn't at the same place (economically and technologically as Western Countries?) It must mean Black Nigerians are not as smart as Westerners right?

Some of these posters.

These cops are a good example of implicit bias. Many studies have been done on it in the health care industry. Speaks to why African Americans get more sub-standard health care than their white counterparts even from African American Doctors. It's part in Parcel of how African Americans are portrayed in the US by largely White media .
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/publications/human_rights_magazine_home/the-state-of-healthcare-in-the-united-states/racial-disparities-in-health-care/

Basilico and benalvino3 are perfect examples of this. They have never stepped foot in the US, don't really know US history but have a bias/angst against Black people because of the all conservative media they consume. It's actually very sad.

SlyfoxxMadness:
LMAO. Yeah right I am 15 years old sense is far from your life bro.

Like I said it’s not hard to find your posts. Literally every time I log on here you are the last or one of the latest posters. That’s how much time you spend here crying about Trump and discussing politics. Do you have an actual life outside this forum bro? I feel really sad seeing young men in their prime who should be out making money and helping us fvck these bitches instead wasting away arguing senselessly on an internet forum. It’s pathetic bro. At almost 40 you’re still a virgin and you feel proud about it? Smh. See you can’t even insult me without making a political reference. That’s how much politics has consumed your soul. It’s a mental sickness bro you just don’t know.

Bro let me help you out. I swear my aunties house girl is pretty. Calabar girl. She will fvck your brains out and you might not even need to pay. I will put in a good word for you.

Mind Blown. Simple question. How many usernames have you created this week alone? And how many posts do you think you have amongst all those usernames? I'll give you a hint.. much much more than me.
Take your own advice. Go live a real life. Stop pretending you're in the UK balling at night with your friends while simultaneously posting here, or pretending you're balling with Big Boys in Abuja while again simultaneously posting here, or as you wrote in one of your nuttier posts, pretending you're surveilling the Oriental Hotel with your DSS friends waiting for me to check in so you can figure out when I'm in Nigeria so you can lock me up. Lol. Just typing that... Holy sh*t you're nuts.

SlyfoxxMadness:
Bro come. Let me hook you up with my auntie in Atlanta’s house girl. You need a female in your life badly. That’s the only thing that can help quell your Trump derangement and rabid obsession with politics. Ahn ah! On a Friday evening again? Every time I check in here the latest comment is always by you. Seek help bro you have no life.

Do you just refresh my profile every minute to know when I post? Isn't this your 4th new username this week (the rest banned) so you can stalk me? You are giving off the same stalkerish vibes as the guy who attacked Paul Pelosi. I hate to see what you are like outside these forums. You're one strange person. Hopefully in 3 years when your 18, you'll look back and be embarrassed by all this.

Roland17:
As much as I want to believe you, truth is, a black man would have gotten hit before they remember say dem carry Taser sef and this is irrespective of the race of the Police officers.

Great point. Pelosi did an amazing job here on the recorded police call keeping this guy calm and at the same time letting the deputy know he needed help. I'm actually very disappointed at the police response from the recorded call, the fact that the capital should have saw them breaking into Pelosi's home and communicate that to the responding officer and then the subsequent response of the police, seemingly unaware what was going on. And if it were a black male, would they have let that scene play out the same way? Nope.

Whether you love or hate her, Pelosi is the 3rd in line to the presidency. Crazy response.

IjeBos:
What an explosive story. The Justice department should open up a separate investigation into Bill Barr and John Durham. So many revelations that need investigation themselves. One being that Bill Barr got a tip himself from Italian investigators that Trump had suspicious financial dealings. What did he do. He "investigated" it himself. Lol. One of the clips.

Barr Pressed Durham to Find Flaws in the Russia Investigation. It Didn’t Go Well.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/26/us/politics/durham-trump-russia-barr.html?unlocked_article_code=5PvODiwxhjky2RguOLm_8cqQawwtyWsgntznTQV-s_YoBsZx-SL1GHVK1PL0jUYINiofcIaA-BeYqZWY-FeviBuN48TVyV7E5q6r9AITsDnJJHgDJ7-snFojp2hNalWHhpdfOiuqsVEnx0ihJXtzwHq9A_Tbyc57i2HcqMyV-_bTTO3IwxbHAWVZUbN4K15kWorS87zkO6E2GXTR63hKOVUglqtJQCoGfKqlJzZVmtf-FqPTds6bAoB93fBbzqdY4xhhpvatJOtmL9ms6xlcqKyxPbvYgqpiDDg14SiO2L1VLQS8NvIow0S0PXypwUyR3LILhx9Q_oOJlsY_hg

Following up on this NY times story. Great reporting. The level of abuse of power in this. There are special prosecutors for a reason, to insulate the investigation from the politics of the Justice Department and it's hires like Bill Barr. How does that work when Bill Barr enmeshed himself into the investigation?

What an explosive story. The Justice department should open up a separate investigation into Bill Barr and John Durham. So many revelations that need investigation themselves. One being that Bill Barr got a tip himself from Italian investigators that Trump had suspicious financial dealings. What did he do. He "investigated" it himself. Lol. One of the clips.

Barr Pressed Durham to Find Flaws in the Russia Investigation. It Didn’t Go Well.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/26/us/politics/durham-trump-russia-barr.html?unlocked_article_code=5PvODiwxhjky2RguOLm_8cqQawwtyWsgntznTQV-s_YoBsZx-SL1GHVK1PL0jUYINiofcIaA-BeYqZWY-FeviBuN48TVyV7E5q6r9AITsDnJJHgDJ7-snFojp2hNalWHhpdfOiuqsVEnx0ihJXtzwHq9A_Tbyc57i2HcqMyV-_bTTO3IwxbHAWVZUbN4K15kWorS87zkO6E2GXTR63hKOVUglqtJQCoGfKqlJzZVmtf-FqPTds6bAoB93fBbzqdY4xhhpvatJOtmL9ms6xlcqKyxPbvYgqpiDDg14SiO2L1VLQS8NvIow0S0PXypwUyR3LILhx9Q_oOJlsY_hg

adamusuleiman1:
Meta President for Global Affairs Nick Clegg: Trump must 'play by the rules' on Facebook and Instagram.

Trump's accounts will be reinstated "in the coming weeks" with new guardrails "to deter repeat offenses," Nick Clegg, president of global affairs at Facebook's parent company Meta, said on Wednesday.

The "serious risk to public safety" that led Meta to suspend Trump in January 2021 "has sufficiently receded," Clegg wrote in a blog post. Still, he said, Trump would face "heightened penalties" should he continue to break Meta's rules, including removal of his posts and even a fresh two-year suspension.


Sir Nicholas William Peter Clegg is a British media executive and former Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom who has been president for global affairs at Meta Platforms since 2022, having previously been vice‑president of global affairs and communications at Facebook from 2018 to 2022.

Money is King. Meta is looking at the Revenue Trump brings in running for president. This is another reason why Right walk talk is nonsense, hate drives traffic and so revenue will always win over.

kkins25:
ahh, mounting your own myopic views on top of mine. Are you on the claim that conservatives are anti-black? 😉 And that there's no tint of racism in the camps of the liberals? Or are you conflating Republicans with conservatives and liberals with democrats? Then maybe some proof of the impact of the demos with regards to the liberation of the blacks would be nice.



Rightwing ecosohere? I'm atheist, engage in 'sexual immorality', etc. you'd agree I wouldn't fit into the rightwind ecosophere or atleast most of it. I also don't know about liberals being the driven forces of social media.


Sure. So have many other people.



I've not seen any conservative fight for the termination of any social platform. Conservatives are so called because they clinged to traditional values.. Liberals could be conservative as well. maybe we've mixed demo and Republicans up since the odds of being a conservative and republican are high, just as that of being liberal and democratic is also high. The clear distinction between arises when we enter the gender and culture discussions.



Medical information? Are you referring to covid? That's still a grey area so, I'm not sure.

I could argue same for liberals..

This post; most of your writeup is devoid of any historical context and intellectually dishonest to boot.

Google the definition of Conservatism. Conservatism defends the status quo and believes in incremental change if any. The status quo was/and to an extent continues to be anti Black Americans. So you tell me, given the definition of conservatism, what do you think their position would be? And do you think it was conservative minded whites who liberated Black people? Really? That is part in parcel of the intellectual dishonesty I'm talking about.

And as to your point about not being part of the "right wing ecosphere because you're an Atheist engaging in sexual immorality". Look at Jerry Fallwell Jr., Matt Schlapp etc.. etc. etc. for examples and tell me what that signifies. Phoniness seems to be a prerequisite for being a leader in the conservative movement these days.

kkins25:
I disagree. There are people that fit the description on both sides. However, one side, that is, the liberals, are quick to clamour for the utter destruction of opponent. As we saw in the previously polluted twitter. If same tatics used by radical lefts today, was employed by radical right, given the extent of availability of information as we have today, there'd be no liberals.

Another statement i don't agree with given someone like J. K rowlings was asked to be banned.. Why? I continue to wonder. We've seen several folks(I've even gotten used to this term) lose jobs over words that don't do harm besides trigger emotions.

Even if the claims by liberals holds water, the presentation by- and the flock of people it has produced do no good to the movement.

If you ask me, what is a liberal? I'd say "a group of karens."
Oh, i must add, I am not referring to nairaland goons. 😁

Your description seems myopic. I think you need to think more broadly in terms of liberal vs. conservative. I assume you're a black Nigerian. If you were in the US, which groups protects your right of equality as a black man? What group protects your right of equality as a woman? What group protects the ability to have a reasonable means of living, paid a fair a wage for fair work? And what group protects people, who at times by no means of their own need some help?

But you've defined this debate in terms of the culture wars you've heard in your rightwing ecosphere. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp were created by liberals, who probably when they were younger stayed up late at night in their dorm rooms talking about dreams of connecting people or increasing debate. The same type of random discussion I would have at 2am in the morning in the common area of my liberal university dorm. But these same people, who created these platforms to increase connectivity and conversation, want to limit speech? In fact I think you need a history lesson in which groups historically tried to limit speech. Google Book Banning to start.

The problem is conservatives have decided that limiting violent, abusive, derogatory speech filled with medical misinformation-and lies is somehow an attack on all speech. Just like Sly in this forum. He repeatedly and continuously abuses the rules of this forum and members of it and by doing so impacts the ability of others to participate in this forum. Yet when banned he thinks it's his right to continue doing what he does. Is this forum limiting his free speech by banning him? So, the issue isn't conservatives actually caring about speech, they just want their speech to have more influence and to be protected over everyone else's. Look at what is happening in Florida with AP Black History. Or what is going on with book bannings in the US.

1stGenAmerican:
Marjorie Taylor Greene, a woman who first denied the existence of Covid then went on to become a top spreader of Covid dis/misinformation has been placed on a subcommittee to investigate Covid policies. Inmates are now running the asylum, ladies and gentlemen.

Welcome to the US in the age of our idiocracy.

Here is a good write up for those interested in the V.P.'s Declassification powers. Quote from one of the lawyers in the piece.

“As a matter of academic constitutional law, there may be a question of whether or not the vice president is in that chain of command that can declassify things,” McClanahan said. “However, as a matter of practice for at least the last ten years, if not much longer, it's been a longstanding practice in the executive branch to say that the vice president has delegated authority from the president and should be treated as pretty much the same.”


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/01/17/fact-check-biden-had-authority-declassify-vice-president/11065345002/

benalvino3:
he did not have the authority to declassify except for documents that originated from his office which he classified. You are actually making excuses by putting out misinformation.

You're wrong. Go read the Executive Order and show me where it says what you say it does.

Edit: I see someone else already pointed this out to you.

obixcel:
Yes they are not the same cos Trump as President had the power to declassify, whereas Biden as Vice-President didn't. Oh wait, Biden as Senator back in d day still had classified documents as new discovery showed. So yes!! They're not the same.

1.) Trump has never said he declassified the documents. He had several chances to have his attorneys make that argument in court. They didn't.
2.) The VP as the President has original classification authority. I think Bush made the change to help Cheney.

Thanks for playing though.