₦airaland Forum

rippa:
I have being in Lagos for years and I can tell u Tinubu did nothing in Lagos apart from making it his personal property.
Lagos was already a developed state as a result of been federal capital territory for 77years.
How can one mumu man will come out and claim he developed Abuja if d capital of Nigeria is now moved from Abuja to another state
Do u guys think at all.
If u want to list best govs ever in Nigeria, tinubu is not even among the first 50

Lolz, no problem. Enjoy the democracy and stay safe from political violence online and offline. By God's grace and if Jesus tarries, we will be here after elections.

Goodoldays:
You don’t get the motive for the desperation at all.The way Nigeria is now,with the level of decay we have at hand now,we cannot afford to make the mistake of putting someone as evil and grossly incompetent as the man we have in Aso rock

There is no justifiable motive for desperation to the extent of violence and threatening in a democracy.

What you wrote up there reflects a mind full of hate and bitterness for a particular tribe.Are Igbos the only tribe Lagos,why always Igbo.Who told you Lagos govt doesn’t generate revenue from the businesses Igbos,do you think if someone like Osibanjo had emerged APC bearer and there’s nobody like Peter Obi,say the SE have someone like Orji Uzo Kalu.Do you think this craze about Peter Obi would be happening?.

The truth is bitter, and it is what it is. i love the SEast but what i wrote is the undeniable attitude of many(not all) SEasterners.

Tell yourself the truth,if Peter is Yoruba and Tinubu is Igbo would you have typed this thing you just typed?.The truth.

Yes. i will talk if anyone allows ipob and their behaviour to hijack their campaign. i will talk if anyone is using religion to play politics. i will talk if anyone is a smooth talker and not really what he says he is or is perceived to be.

Mitsurugi:
Exactly what qualifies those claiming Lagos as No Man's Land

So you are saying they are all indigenes but some are more indigene than others?

Mitsurugi:
It isn't without cause bro. I am one of those that is insisting that Lagos should be for Lagosians. Let an indigene rule Lagos and head notable structures and it would go a long way to curb that obnoxious notion. I had a bosom friend a native of Badagry, well educated and all. He decried this marginalization till he left. He's been in Canada now for the past three years with his entire family.

Lolz, so all the governors of Lagos are not indigenes? What qualifies one as an indigene according to law?

rippa:
U people should stop allocating their glory to Tinubu
Tinubu is the worst gov to have ever govern Lagos after Sanwo olu
But he placed smart on u guys and u started singing his praises
Can u list his achievement as gov?

Which glory again, lolz. You find it convenient to say Lagos is in Tinubu's pockets but vehemently deny any good things in Lagos to be connected to him.
Unfortunately, i am not campaigning for Tinubu and will not argue with you about his achievements if you aren't properly informed. Vote your preferred candidate, i am just here to discuss, not campaign.

sammhi:
I bet U didn't got to school
So Igbos in Kano should vote Kwankwaso because they live there ? How does that sound to you ?
Be informed that igbos were in Lagos before Tinubu came to Lagos . Hence they occupied a large area called aguda and okomaiko
All through the 8 years of Tinubu , did he ever gave the igbos loan to do business? Or did any Lagos Gov after Tinibu gave any Igbo man money to do business!
I don't understand this entitlment mentality!
The igbos have a right to Lagos as much as Tinubu does . Why? because they are both Nigerians and more so Igbos pay tax . They have every right to vote anyone they like

You just showed my exact point. You have a right to Lagos as much as Tinubu, no wahala, exercise your right but do it peacefully and allow same where you come from.
If an Igbo person feels Kwankwaso was a very good governor, why not? Vote for him, it's a democracy, not a tribal contest.

Mitsurugi:
The only thing I want to correct is that Lagos is called No Man's Land because everyone lays claim to it as home inclusive of Yoruba from Ogun, Oyo, Ondo, Osun and Ekiti. Many of them leave their states to also come prosper in Lagos sidelining the indigenous to almost every worthwhile elective post and administration. A case in mind is Rauf Aregbesola and Sen. Boni Yayi Olamilekan. Igbos are just one of the "tribal interlopers" to be fair unless you are trying to say the Ijebu, Egba, Owo, Iragbiji people et al are Lagosians too. Unless the fact that they speak Yoruba excludes them from the injustice and disregard meted to Lagos aborigines.

i understand bro. Unfortunately, the SE has projected, magnified and tried to rub this statement on Lagos' face at every election turn for about a decade.

LordReed:
LoLz! I don't know what a spiritual fact is, which is why I asked you the questions. You didn't even define what a spiritual thing is, only giving what you consider examples, requiring further questions which again you don't address.

Can you name the fallacy I presumed?

Here we go again, lol. Spiritual facts have to do with the spiritual realm. We've been down this lane before several times, you don't believe in the spiritual realm.

You're leading on to an hasty generalization when i didn't even suggest it.

samwheel:
Ode!

Come to festac, ago palace, satellite town, iyana ishasi etc... and see what these Igbos are building.

U people just comment without sense, I'm certain u re an head slammer.

"many". You should not disappoint the free school programme you benefited from.

Stanleyq:
But Yoruba people stopped igbos in lagos to get pvc. Do u know that it is better to threaten and no carry out than no threat but carries it out. Igbos do not spill blood any how

i am not aware. You have proof of this or hearsay?

rippa:
Cry foul
Nigeria belongs to all of us
I can choose to live anywhere I want
Tinubu was just a mere governor for 8years
He achieved nothing compared to jakande and others
He only successfully hijack Yoruba brain and turn Lagos to his personal property

Where is Jakande na, make we campaign for am

azpekuliar:
The rantings of a slowpoke. The one wey dey dia wey nobody tire im hand nko... Even wit im rubber stamp assembly how e be for you after 7 years?... Idiot.

i don't engage ipobic mindsets. How's Lamidi doing, have you prayed to him today?

FreeSpirited:
Wèrè, is that all you have to say? Abi mor3 madnees still remain? Eranko

See them
Obi can't win election with this type of disabled persons ruining his SAPA campaign.

KnownUnknown:
Can you translate this sentence to layman’s language please?

The sentence is not for laymen, you MUST be born again.

Stanleyq:
Are u a witch?

lol, why na. Why are you people like this?

Stanleyq:
And the bat is lagos abi. He has been living there before the bat came as govu.

BAT has been involved in Lagos government.

Believeintruth:
The ones attacking people that want to register for their PVCs in Lagos nko who are they?

Which ones? Is church PVC registration center? Why would anyone monopolize PVC machine to vote against his landlord?

deukpai:
You are truly image of disaster. You think they're like Mc olomo boys...? Oga get yourself brain.

i can't make much sense of your statement, try again sir.

Rugaria:
Does Lagos belong to Tinupoo?
How do you guys even reason? So for living in Lagos for a century, we must vote a druglord as a way of saying "thank you"?! How is Tinupoo synonymous with Lagos apart from corruption??
Which culture functions like this.??

Lagos doesn't belong to Tinubu but was governed by Tinubu for 8 years. His boys have also been in charge for about 15years after.
Zach experienced the good governance in this(from his video and explanation). It is only rational for him to throw his support and appreciation behind what has benefited him and that he feels will benefit more.

It is saddening and devilish to see many eastern brothers make millions in Lagos and never try building or improving it but will build many mansions in their villages with the money. And they don't only stop at that, they have several times attempted to hijack/change the state government for no known sensible reason. It is Tinubu's unfortunate fault that they call Lagos no man's land because he created enabling and level environment for everyone to easily make it, even in government. What many of my SE brothers attempt to do in Lagos, no outsiders can try 10% of it in their state. O wrong na, very wrong.

lol. i remember Bello losing it big at the men's power conference.

Rugaria:
Zack Amusu Orji, with his lips like that of a disoriented Mamba, is a wholly inebriated political jobber that commands no following anywhere in the country, including in hionw sitting room. Man just burnt the little respect people have for him over a pot of porridge..

He doesn't need to control a following to vote. He is only being grateful having lived in Lagos and "made it" in Lagos for over 30 years.

The good thing about Tinubu supporters, they are not do or die.They are not threatening no elections, or to kill and burn down people who don't support Tinubu.

Vote your vote, make i vote my vote. That's democracy. Not this ipobic campaign hijacked from Obi. If SAPA proMAX Obi's campaign can be hijacked and people are telling him to keep quiet that it is beyond him. i wonder what happens to his government.
Someone that was impeached like a mere local government chairman, can't control his campaign, can't control his mouth from lies and embellishment. Na him wan successfully control the diversity of Nigerians and Aso Rock? E go complain tire about his hands being tied. Abi Nigeria na your two pair of shoes wey you dey carry inside bag without PA ni?

ritzyvic1:
It's called carbon dating
They measure the quantities of different carbon isotopes
Since the rate of decay is constant and known, they can calculate the time the skeleton was formed.

Now, do you love science?

By faith, it is constant and known.

LordReed:
Being willing to argue a fact doesn't make it relative. Something is relative when it actually changes when people in different circumstances view it.

I recognise these are concepts which are generally intangible things so are you saying all intangible things or all concepts are spiritual things?

Exactly, you are always willing to argue spiritual facts. That's why i said they are relative. Don't you know that we're both in totally different circumstances?
Your second paragraph is a presumed fallacy. The Bible is a spiritual book that largely deals with spiritual facts. But you want it proven in the laboratory like a chemistry textbook. It can't werk.

Lol, twice on FP. Comedians

LordReed:
Facts are not relative, a fact doesn't change because you or I are viewing it.

Can you define what a spiritual thing is? And are there are any facts indicating its existence?

The fact that this is six doesn't mean there's nobody somewhere willing to argue that it is actually nine.
Sin, being born again, spiritual death, sanctification, justification are spiritual things.
To you, facts are only limited to the physical, a huge world of difference between us.

Cypress042:
Don't you get tired of suffering, c'mon man Tinubu is an old man

Is it a crime to be old? Is your father not old, Is the Pope not old? Is Biden not old? Are pastor Adeboye and pastor Kumuyi not old?
Look for reasonable points to counter a campaign, not baseless points.

CAN cannot can.
i am also opposed to president of stingy men's association as our president. Him Tu Lie. Everybody should vote their own vote, make we relax.

Aloof is an understatement, he has been AWOL.

LordReed:
The available body of facts indicating whether a something is true.

Books can contain evidence in the form of stated facts.

Fact is relative these days. My fact can be different from your fact and vice versa. Not forgetting the world of difference between spiritual and physical things.

AfonjaNaBastard:
Sane Nigerians have decided to vote for Peter Obi. We cannot afford to put the lives of our children and the economy in the hands of an old demented drug criminal whose real name, age and educational background are covered in secrecy.

On the mandate of Peter Obi we stand!

Pitobi, the winner of president for stingy men association.

LordReed:
Actual evidence.

What is actual evidence, and is there actual evidence in any book?