₦airaland Forum

LordReed:
Yeah. In our clime they conflate satanist with atheist. The sneer with which they say atheist can strip steel.

They are both satan's children, so they look alike like brothers.

FLYFIRE:
You were doing well, what happened to you?

Here they come again, imagine someone insulting me for saying the plain truth about their candidate? Reno complained, Femi Kuti just complained too. Someone is asking what happened to me, i should close my eyes and support ipobic rascality.

Na today Obi supporters dey threaten life? It's very rare to see other parties threatening.

MadamExcellency:
You forgot Oba drowning Igbos in the lagoon so easily and Tinubu's daughter threatening and insulting one of the major ethnic groups in Nigeria.

i didn't even hear it. The current threats are very loud and caustic. As far as i remember, igbos were allowed to freely vote and campaign all over Lagos and online. Nobody threatened to burn their shrine or shop or kill their children.

DSC7:
Rip Mr Senator...

He was among those that refused to fix our health sector..

Don't let them deceive you. What Obidients are doing today is not half compared or anything close today to what they did to Jonathan in 2015.

They called him weak, dead, ogogoro man and all sorts of names. They named their dogs and pigs after goodluck and Jonathan. They carried his coffin on the streets and when he visited Bauchi, they organized boys to attack him with stones. They called Patience Jonathan a hippopotamus and mocked her struggles with the English Language even when she was making a genuine attempt at addressing issues.

Suddenly, they want to talk to you about respect in politics and civility ? Suddenly they want you to ignore their flaws and focus on issues. Again I say, don't let them deceive you.

Unlike what they did to Jonathan in 2015, Obidients are only suffocating them with the truth. They lied their way to power in 2015 and are trying to form victim to silence people who are standing for the truth.

Hit them hard with facts and truths. Hit them where it pains them the most. Give it to them wotowoto, drag their past, their present and their future. Put it on their faces and torment them with your truths.

That they are complaining about it shows it hurts them. It shows you are saying the truth. Increase your fire, don't sleep on this one. As long as you are on the path of truth, as long as you are stating the facts, don't relent.

The APC does not deserve respect on these streets.

Enough is enough.
Don't give in to APC's lies
Vote Labour party

i don't recall any APC supporter threatening other Nigerians who shared different views, do you?

CrownOfClay724:
You will just kee yourself by yourself.

This country must be liberated from the stranglehold of you and your likes who doesn't mean it well.

The exact thing we just referred to. If different people are making the same complaint about you, check yourself and adjust. Being caustic and intolerant is not wokeness or liberation. You are free to support your candidate, without insulting, threatening or talking down on others. What has killing got to do with voting in an election or discussion on a forum? Who held you in a stranglehold? Am i the one telling you not to go to school or work every mondays?

Let others put their campaign in Obi's village without insult, threat to life and swearing to wipe family off the earth surface. It's a democracy, ipobic guttersnipes don't seem to understand that.

When will this project be ready?

29kobo:
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I'm not. Private sector worker, healthcare.



At the end of the day, while all you said has a gin of truth, it still doesn't adress the problem...





So what is your solution? You guys complain of bad quality of educaiton, then when faced with the cost implication, you go 'wow'.

University costs money. Either raise fees, or watch as private universites surpass public universities....and then where would the poor graduates be in the job market?

Mock me, shout at me, it does not change the truth. The countries with good univerisites have high fees...or tax to gdp ratios of 45-50%...ours is 8.1%




And your solution means raised fees....which is the only way they can stop being leeches. A solution you dismissed.

Money does not grow on trees.

My solution wasn't just raising fees, raising fees have not worked in Nigeria. Nigerians only adjust but it doesn't solve the problem. The fees in the public institutions have been raised. Some of them are over 200% what they were just 20 years ago but the problem is even worse. There's a lot of drain and brainlessness around for raising fees alone to be the solution.
i mentioned foreign schools and in particular UNILORIN under Oloyede. What worked for them that they didn't join strike for about 20 years? The solution is NEVER strike, strike is a myopic and selfish thing.
Look at the foreign schools and their sources of funding. Here's Oxford University.
The three main sources of income are teaching, research and residential (38% of the aggregate income), legacies and donations (22%), and investment income (31%). Other income derives mostly from trading activity such as vacation conferences.

This is Cambridge below, it's not about taxing students oga.
Our major internal sources of funding are: Cambridge Trust, Gates Cambridge Trust, Harding Distinguished Postgraduate Scholars Programme, Research Councils and collectively College and departmental schemes.

We need to think outside our strike box, our lectures are not very brilliant. Here's Harvard

Harvard is funded, in part, by an endowment. The endowment includes thousands of philanthropic gifts donated since Harvard's early history, many of which were given to support specific aspects of Harvard's teaching and research work.
Last year, for example, Harvard University attracted more than $800 million in research funding, with 70 percent coming from the federal government.

You can read more [url=https://finance.harvard.edu/endowment%20]here[/url]


UNILORIN like i said didn't break the bank to avoid ASUU strike for over 20 years, so definitely strike or raising tuition alone is not the way out.
UNILORIN School Fees 2022/2023 Session. Below is a breakdown of the University of Ilorin school fees for new students and also that of returning students. Amount as school fees is N25,900 for new students. Amount as school fees is N25,000 for freshmen while Amount as school fees for old students is N27,000. You can still read about their current VC's stand on strike here.

29kobo:
All that does not answer the ultimate question...the funding question.

You are saying that they should resume because it does not favour your party/government.

Anyway, I will tell you mine. The government needs to raise fees, and raise taxes to levels that can fund universites adequately and prevent future strikes from happening. It should also provide financial assistance only to students who come from families earning less than N50000 monthly...in the form of grants and loans. Fees should be as high as 600000-1.2million per annum. Families should be encouraged to set up savings funds for universites for their kids from childhood to adulthood.

Telling ASUU to shut up and go back to work just brushes the problem under the carpet. All this time we have been telling ASUU to shut up and go back to work since 1992. And they always have , and our universites are no better.

It is a shame no party, including the APC you love, has a solution.

ASUU will stop going on strike when the problem is adressed. Telling them to keep quiet, anc alling them names does not solve the main issues.

And to be honest, if we are not careful, in ten years, private universities will surpass public universites. Because your government won't face reaility.

This is laughable, i guess you're a lecturer though. So i want ASUU to call of strike because strike doesn't favour government? Are they striking not to favour government?Have i said any lie in all my descriptions of ASUU?Did you for once think about the students and the many families and dreams affected most in all these?
ASUU strike in Nigeria is not new to any government like you admitted. It is the students that bear the brunt that you should pity, yet you ask them to raise their school fees to at least 600,000 naira per annum. Just wow.
Like i said, schools can run efficiently in Nigeria without strike, they should learn from Oloyede of UNILORIN. That's my solution. The foreign schools they want to be like are not leeches on their governments, they source for funding. That's my solution.

29kobo:
No seriously, what is your solutuion to the problem...because the issues go way beyond the demands on paper?

Do you support raised fees, raised taxes...so that we find money to fund ASUU's demands that government fufils the 2009 ASUU-FG agreement in full?

Solution is that they resume work immediately as far as they are expecting to be paid for all the wasted months of strike. They need to be innovative about funding and stop the silly 200% dependence on government for funding. Oloyede was a clear case study of the possibility when he was in UNILORIN. They didn't join ASUU in all these useless and selfish strikes and the school was averagely well managed. He replicated similar with his work in JAMB. Foreign schools that they are comparing themselves to are not government parasites.
You must have been in Nigerian colleges, these lecturers are not all that. These useless ones that damage people's lives and destinies. Using student's projects and articles for their personal papers to become Dr. and Professor. This hawkers that turn class rep to affiliate marketer to sell textbooks for grades. Some of their textbooks ma still photocopy from 1980 done in their business centers in the school. These ones need little or no pity, they don't pity the students in their care as you can see and know.

29kobo:
So ASUU should keep quiet , eh?

I am not supporting Obi or your candidate...but I want to know WHAT solution you have to end ASUU strike.

Let's start with, what is their demand and what has the government said. Do you know or you are just venting without reason?

Okay, wishing we could also vote ASUU out.
Who shut down the universities, government or ASUU? If ASUU wants/decide to resume on Monday, they will.
Should all other sectors go on strike because they are not world class? Abi what is this one saying, he forgot to tell us that they are all fighting for their own personal agenda.
The same shameful education system that will announce elections results with I need more light. They are as useless as the governors that have no brains to generate revenue and run a college apart from increasing student tuition and collecting money for damages and all sorts of rubbish.

If you are somehow fooled to think Obi is any better, look at this NL 2010 thread where ASUU blamed Obi for their lingering strike. Obi had no solution different from the current government, he said ASUU is not listening and shunning dialogue. Guess whatASUU accused Obi of, inexperience and deceitfulness.
Him Tu Lie, there's nothing new under the sun.
https://www.nairaland.com/541948/ASUU-blames-peter-obi-south#7043609

The sun seems to have deleted their link but you can still see vanguard for something similar. Perhaps, they too will delete the truth. i keep insisting these guys are no different from each other and will not do anything significantly better or different, stop touting them as Nigeria's messiah.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/10/anambra-varsity-teachers-move-to-end-strike/amp/

Hallelu, but he'll allow the garrulous Dino.

Keyamo goof this one, next time stay on issues. Use his college certificate.

Him Tu Lie Obi should learn to make his points without silly statistics. The interviewers asked him around 8mins that almost all the 36states have no FDI, how does he want to drive the economy. He proceeded to lie that the interviewer mentioned Borno(except maybe the interview was edited, they didn't mention Borno). The ridiculous part was when Obi said Borno state is 70.9 square kilometers and Sambissa forest is 60,000 square kilometers. Any JSS 3 student knows how ridiculous such a lie is. Sambissa is inside Bornu, it should be less than 1000 square kilometers, while Bornu is around 70,898 square kilometers. You can't keep throwing silly figures and embarrassing the country. People will fact check or verify like he says.

majamajic:
Why not use india hemp in bracket ?

Oh okay, that's true. It can be confusing, lol.

FFK can debate and stand for 3 hours, i hope you don't plan to vote for him on such crazy criteria. Smooth talk is not good governance. Are you not tired of smooth talk? Na so Osinbande and Obi dey talk every year on The Platform. Osinbande handle economy, we can see the results.
Talk is cheap, don't let the gift of gab fool you.

igbo(India hemp) has tampered with this one's brain. First statement incoherent, defence incoherent. Say no to igbo.

desiredhome:
I wonder the magic the PO is going to perform considering the mindset of the Nigerian people........ tribalism is killing our economy.....
The same youths that are shouting/crying now are the same youth these thiefing politicians were using to work against the Buhari government......,
So many gullible Nigerians .....

Lol, he reminds me of someone who can't control his small house but sleeping while the house is burning. He says "Nigerians know the truth na". Na this one wan control divisions, nepotism and insecurity. Someone that all he knows are false misleading economic statistics. It is well.

ImperialYoruba:
This goes to show Obi is not politically astute and a misfit to head a politically complex Nigeria. Let's put things in perspective.

Buhari could not get much done in first term even with APC majority in NASS. Why? Because the leadership of NASS were not on his side.

What makes Obi think a president can work with success in Nigeria when the legislative is opposed to him? Obi thinks of politics at the understanding level of a juvenile.

Obi was impeached in Anambra because his legislature opposed him.

If he wins he wants to preside in the midst pf opposition legislature. Has he lost his mind?

Peter Obi is a joker

He has not lost his mind, only lying as usual. He'll decamp back to either PDP or APC depending on who is majority, but likely PDP as his goons are there. He did same as governor. His hoodwinked followers don't know the mess we're in.

Atikulate, another reason why i would prefer Tinubu. He has better ideology and will not sacrifice Nigeria for miscreants, even from his tribe.

The smooth criminal.
Interviewer tells Obi, we're tired of politicians promises. How would you handle insecurity.
Obi's answer was trust me.
The lady asks again "how".
Obi says whatever needs to be done, I'll do it.
This one get plan so? When Tinubu said to employ millions of young people and bombard the camp of the criminals, we all laugh at him for saying so.

zeuss:
surely ur not a Christian.....do well to keep ur shame to yourself and immediate family....BIGOT!

Lol, who made you a judge? Are you an ipob member?

The desperation is nauseating. i pity the gullible.

Lol, coming to the Redemption Camp for the VERY first time. i can't imagine the gullibility, i am officially ashamed on behalf of my Christian friends.

Jollos:
How will people know they are not suppose to vote for him if all these are not in circulation.

He's still more competent, powerful and visionary than the other major contenders, that's why. Ask Lawan, Ameachi, Osinbajo and Buhari.

Joshthefirst:
chief, are you supporting Tinubu?

Not exactly. But i'm continuously inclined to especially when i see the big problem of ipobic Obi supporters, the christianisation of Obi's campaign, and the fact that they are ALL hopeless thieves.

Kingspin:
How did Obi break the guidelines?
He attends meetings and others where he will speak as a guest speaker. He has been speaking long before now.
He is not on any political really or Media campaign from Obi direct,.
Many of the things you are seeing are done by individual, groups.

I don't think you know more than INEC.

of course.

Tor

It's called video editing, stop this dumb talk.