₦airaland Forum

MindHacker9009:
You're the one insane for not wanting to find out any historical information outside of what you've been taught in the Bible, if not you'll ask yourself if there are no documentary evidence to show that the Europeans did occupy where you now call Nigeria from around the 1800s.

Lol, e pain am gaan. document.

LordReed:
No, but your reasoning cannot be arbitrary. Jude quotes from from BoE you don't accept BoE as canon but you accept Jude as canon, based on nothing but you don't like BoE. NNTR said BoE was false teaching yet the passage quoted directly from BoE is in consistent with your beliefs.

Do you think it is smarter to say all past written books are invalid then?

If He took away sin, there is no sin in Nigeria. Everyone enjoy, you are all doing well.

jesusjnr2020:
Am i surprised a male chauvinist/sexist believes it was God who commanded women to keep silent in the church because it's a shame for them to speak.

Anything in the Bible which massages your chauvinistic ego is the Word of God, right?

Feel immense pity for the women in your life especially your wife.

Comedian, list the books in the Bible that are God's Word and let's treat your sickness from there only, like Indian dey talk.

MindHacker9009:
Now we are in the super free information age, but so many believers are too scared to look up
any historical information with documentary evidence that proves some of the beliefs they have been taught wrong.I was in this situation for decades as all my parents taught me was Jesus 2nd coming but since I watched a video on youtube with documentary evidence of Roman occupation of Israel during the time of the made up character of Jesus, since then I have been set free from believing in this  FAKE 2nd cumming that has already come and gone in 70 CE.

Believers time to start using the brain GOD has given you and not the one Satan has manipulated.

Lol @documentary evidence. Documentary evidence wey dey change every ten years. Na today this one just start to watch documentary. When you watch documentary evidence that you are insane, you go believe am too as documentary na eternal life now. Oshiski

Well, if she join PDP, they would still say something silly. Even Sowore, that doesn't join APC or PDP still get problem. In Nigeria, if you are not popular pastor or imam and you talk against or for government, problem. Just don't talk.

LordReed:
You showed what was accessible by way of written information. You are the one getting it twisted, you can't simultaneously claim that past written books about your religion are both valid and invalid. That is an absurd stance. If Jude didn't get his reference from the BoE then where did he get it from? You are unable to provide a straightforward answer.

Do you think it is smarter to say all past written books are valid?

LordReed:
LoLZ. You are literally quoting a place where what was written in a book was used as evidence of Jesus' foretold birth while simultaneously claiming that what is written in the past is not reliable. SMH. Bwahahahahaha!

Meanwhile you are yet to answer me as to where Jude got the quote if it was not from BoE.

As usual, you get it twisted. i showed you that information about the past was accessible and not hidden. i even used a wicked king and scribes as example.
In the same vein, the fact that something is written early doesn't necessarily mean it is valid. i guess you can only think in units.

i answered you immediately already. i said information about the patriarchs was accessible knowledge and that God could have told him. Two clearly given possibilities.

LordReed:
LoLz! Accessible how?

Read my response again the quote was taken directly from Book of Enoch. The book of Enoch was around before Jesus was born.

Mat 2:4 KJV And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born.

Mat 2:5 KJV And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,

As you can see, the knowledgeable could access previous information including wicked Herod if he so much wanted. It was not hidden for someone not to get it. That something is done or written before Jesus was born or while Jesus was being born doesn't make it valid or the source.

LordReed:
Then what was the source of Jude's statement if it wasn't from a book?

i said it wasn't from the BoE, i did not say it was not from a book. It could also be from God, how about that? The words of the patriachs was accessible to those who cared.

LordReed:
LoLz. How do you know what Jude purportedly said if there wasn't a book? The delusional one here is you. By your senseless argument we should discount all the words of the gospels of Matthew, Mark and John since no one knows who actually wrote them. Bwahahahahaha!

There are scholarly and divine agreements as to the books you just mentioned, just like any scholarly agreement on other old works. BTW, if you read me carefully, i did not say that there was no book.

LordReed:
That quote in Jude was taken directly from the Book of Enoch.

Okay, enjoy your delusion. That Enoch said something does not mean that he wrote a book. That the book says what Enoch truly said does not mean that he wrote the book. i can write a book quoting you, doesn't mean i am you or that everything else i write is true or you. There are monikers of people on social media, both dead and alive, that say or try to say what the people say/said. It's not a new thing and it doesn't necessarily verify/validate them. But again, enjoy your delusion.

LordReed:
So when Jude said:

14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

He was saying that the book of Enoch was a false teaching? So in other words Jesus is not coming with 10k saints to execute judgement? Or Jesus coming back is a false teaching?

Jude wasn't quoting any BoE duh. Jude was quoting prophet Enoch. All sorts of sorry books came out around that time as it was popular to get books and epistles from Apostles telling people God's message. Like there's always fake and copy versions of authentic things. Book of Moses, Elijah, Mary Magdalene, Demas, Judas, Thomas etc. were flying around to deceive people like you.

A joker is telling us that the epistles are not the Word of God. Just laugh and pass.

chatinent:
We all know that Sundays to Nigerian pastors arw the happiest days of their lives as they'll be expecting another batch of tithes and offering. That being said, what will you do in this situation?

Same thing you should do to your school fees or utility bills. Give alms to the poor, giving alms should not stop you from being responsible or getting sense.

Janosky:
Jehovah God is not wicked neither his servants. Deuteronomy 4:32.

Jesus is teaching about Gehenna in the Greek scriptures,yet you changed that to hellfire.

Jesus Christ and Abraham believe in monotheism, John 20:17 & Acts 3:13, yet you changed his teaching to politheism of 3 deities.

Oga, continue DECEIVING yourself.

What are all these rubbish you have said got to do with this thread? Don't bring your silly doctrinal obsessions here, there are already so many threads for them.

Janosky:
Oga, your bigotry is luminous.
Just continue DECEIVING yourself.

Is it a lie to say that you of course hate me and other people non JWICKEDNESS. You will rather break a bottle on my head than openly pray with me? Is it me deceiving myself or it is a well established fact?

Janosky:
Is Matthew 23:33 & John 13:34-35 in your own Bible?
Na Jesus Christ talk.
Are you torturing Jesus in hell?

You keep missing it because you refuse to think or allow God to teach you except junk from the hallway that you keep feeding on. Jesus is the Judge of the whole world including the pharisees, you are not. Also, they were indeed serpents, behaving like serpents/snakes. Just like people behave like dogs or like pigs or stubborn like goats. He was not insulting them or helplessly namecalling like your disciple was doing to me. Was your disciple loving like in John 13 when he was calling out those names in his language? Use your brain or get it from the back of the hall way soon.

Janosky:
[s]Who are the warring army in Ukraine decimating?
Shey na their fellow Russian Orthodox church members, your fellow 3 deities Polytheists, killing each other on both sides?
Shebi Matthew 5:43-44 no dey their own Bible?


Yet you wey get brain no know say the Jews of Jesus days were under the yoke of Roman emperors the political class oppressing the Jews.
Therefore,they were also the "enemies" Jesus teaching was also about.
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Pastorpreneurs GIBBERISH done do you something.
So those politicians your Pastorpreneurs bless and pray for during altar call, when they fight each other are no longer your fellow 3 deities devotees?
For your mind, the Roman rulers were not politicians.
You are just too dull for this thread you opened.



You said, :"This is God's commandment for everyone to love."
Oga, does your"EVERYONE" include "politicians conflicting between politicians"?

Oga, you have ZERO proof that John 13:34-35 & Matthew 5:43-44 is the whims of Awake.
Just continue DECEIVING yourself.[/s]

Speak English please, i found it very hard to make sense of your drunken speech. i could only gather that you were here to defend Awake.

Janosky:
According to the definition for "self defence" & "settle the score (Screenshots)", When someone shoots at you to cause harm & you fire a shot at him in self defence, are you causing harm & settling scores?


Did Jesus Christ & your Bible says you must get even?

You are not making sense. Probably because you have no idea what it means to be persecuted FOR CHRIST'S SAKE.

Janosky:
What is the clever words and argument in Matthew 26:52?

What sort of hypocrisy is this?
You admonished your fellow 3 deities worshippers to defend themselves yet you criticized these "people that are ready to use broken bottle and sticks to fight people."
You encourage self defence, broken bottle and sticks no follow for self defence? .

Yes, he did.


Such as Paul's personal safety and security in his frequent travels as evangelist in
2 Corinthians 11;22-27?
How times did Paul practice self defence in 2 Corinthians 11:22-27?


Or :
Can you name the disciples who practice Luke 22:36?

i got like 8 mentions, i checked if any of the topics i commented on was on frontpage, no. i knew immediately it had to be a thoughtless trouble maker disturbing.
Defending yourself from criminality and danger is not the same as facing persecution. If you are caught and persecuted for Christ's sake of course, you rejoice and trust in God. This is difference from the general dangers every humans face on the road or in the night. Use that brain and read properly.

LordReed:
Of course, just as it is your opinion that it is not a fantasy. LoLz.

The reality speaks.

LordReed:
So one fantasy maker quotes another fantasy maker, great. LoLz.

Opinions are cheap and free, reality stares you till eternity.

LordReed:
Ah, notice that you used a fantasy maker as an analogy, makes me wanna laugh at how apt that is.

Because the prevalent BoE is a fantasy maker of course. The reality and truth stands.

LordReed:
Yet Jude is canon, funny.

It's commonsense. If nollywood produces a film based on the ongoing anything, it doesn't guarantee that it will be the exact truth of the ongoing anything. It also doesn't negate or remove the validity of the anything.

Na the kain stats wey Okonjo Iweala dey use format people that year be this. Any chart that puts Nigeria, India, Indonesia and co ahead of Finland, Norway, UAE etc. Know that it was prepared in the presence of satan the devil for satanic manipulation.

Nilon:
between a woman good in bed and a woman that can cook, which will you choose?

Cook, the man can make the woman good in bed if he also is.

Kobojunkie:
Does that then mean equally a man with high IQ will submit to a woman then?

Men are naturally more submissive than women, both at work and at home.

Submission is a key ingredient for a happy marriage. You can have high IQ business partners and friends, it is not necessary for marriage.

Broveens42:
This passage clearly proves that biblical jesus is not interested in how many partners you had on earth
ie. once you die, it's just like a new page for all you religious folk

Matthew 22:24-33
24 “Teacher,” they said, “Moses told us that if a man dies without having children, his brother must marry the widow and have children for him.
25 Now there were seven brothers among us. The first one married and died, and since he had no children, he left his wife to his brother. 26 The same thing happened to the second and third brother, right on down to the seventh. 27 Finally, the woman died.
28 NOW THEN, AT THE RESURRECTION, WHOSE WIFE WILL SHE BE OF THE SEVEN, SINCE ALL OF THEM WERE MARRIED TO HER?”

29 Jesus replied, “You are in error because you DO NOT KNOW THE SCRIPTURE or the power of God.
30 At the RESURRECTION people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. 31 But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you,
32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.”

The New Testament teaches that there are limitations in service for those that have more than one.

LordReed:
Were you made to be wonderfully and fearfully smug?

i am fearfully and wonderfully made.

AntiChristian:
I have no problems with marrying two wives. I am just proving it to be Biblical, not against it.

It's okay in the Old testament.